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  1. This is third DVD player I bought (and will be returning) in the past week and a half !!!!

    By the way so everyone else knows this, the APEX AD-2600 and the Philips 727 had the same software loaded on their machines.

    Hopefully someone can make a recommendation as to what I am looking for in a DVD player.

    I want something that will play whatever is thrown into it (The Philips 727 and Apex AD-2600 does) but when when you hit the zoom button this annying box appears throughout the entire dvd playback and does not go away !!!! How annoying can you get ???

    Please help...

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    have you tried hittin the display button chief... and dont tell me you brought back a dvd player cause when u hit zoom a little box appears, thats just retarded

  3. If you knew that people like to watch a widescreen movie in fullscreen, you wouldn't think thats retarded CHIEF...

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    maybe if your tv wasnt so small you had to press the zoom button to watch what u call a full screen with the edges chopped off you wouldnt have such a big prob would ya chief

  5. Heay loser, I didn't ask anyone to give me a stupid comment, and if I wanted more lip from you I'd scrape it from my zipper....

    As for my television, it's a 51in...... So size isn't a problem, except in your case

  6. LOL okay funny comments aside, I have an el-cheapo $29.00 Daytek that plays everything except Xvid/Divx. But for an all-round player that does everything I recommend the Lite-On LVD 2002.

    Also take a look at this:
    http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/9198

    https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=190398

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    Defon, your story reminds me of the analogy where the helpdesk operator instructs the customer to pack their computer into boxes and take it back to where they bought it, and ask for a full refund. Why ?

    Because they're too damn stupid to own a computer, that's why !

    I am sure that there will be a button on the remote that you can press to get rid of your annoying little symbol....chief. Maybe you just need some lessons in the art of using a Remote Control....
    If in doubt, Google it.

  8. Ya know what's so funny jimmadorko, is that the real analogy is, if you aren't part of the solution, your part of the problem..... Obviously if you have read my original post (which wouldn't suprise me if you couldn't read), then you wouldn't feel the need to run your mouth and look like a fool.

    As for this forum, it's about discussion, and while my post may be of no interst to you, then take a hike a go elsewhere !!! There are many topics throughout this site I think are stupid, however it does not mean that I have to go in and insult or question their intelligence over it !!!!

    The irony of your ignorance and analogy is that there is no way around "the remote" chief....

    If anyone has a problem with handling equipment, it's probably you !!!

    BTW, thanks for the links Skynet

  9. Well I own the 2600 and I haven't had that problem...but I also own a LVD-2002 which plays nearly anything you throw at it.
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  10. That's weird Casey... The only thing I can think of is that maybe the firmware on the 2600 I had was more current, cause both Apex and Philips in essence said I was SOL and that there was no other firmware updates I could get on them....

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    LOL@Defcon

    I have to say your replys are excellent and you dont derserve what the earlier posts said, you have as much right to ask your question here as anyone else.

    Best of luck with your problem.

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    Anyone stupid enough to convert widescreen movies to fullscreen via the ZOOM needs to be taken out back and shot in the head.

    Stupid ass

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    Anyone stupid enough to convert widescreen movies to fullscreen via the ZOOM needs to be taken out back and shot in the head.

    Stupid ass

    see, and i was the one tryin to be nice about it....hahahahaha

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    Originally Posted by glockjs
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    Anyone stupid enough to convert widescreen movies to fullscreen via the ZOOM needs to be taken out back and shot in the head.

    Stupid ass

    see, and i was the one tryin to be nice about it....hahahahaha
    Well movies aren't presented widescreen on video so half your screen is useless.

    Stupid ass just doesn't "get it"

    Oh well.

    His/her loss.

    Perhaps this might help:

    WEBSITE EXPLAINING WIDESCREEN VIDEO WITH FULL SCREEN VS WIDESCREEN PIC REVIEWS

    Blah

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    I wish I had a penny for everyone that says widescreen sucks

    What I can't believe is that the guy wants to use the zoom button to enlarge the movie for the whole playing time.

    Don't people stop to think? What about the quality loss involved by using the second rate interal image processing while using the zoom function.


    Why don't you just go into setup and select screen type to 16:9 widescreen? This will make the image appear "zoomed" on standard 4:3 TVs.

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    I just don't get it. What's wrong with asking a question beside giving a reason for an attack by a hord of savages? Zoom button is there for a reason and if someone prefers to watch 4:3 (I do!) then that is his choice. Btw. I posted a similar question several months ago which went by without any answer. My DVD (JVC) will also display zoom symbol which will not go away on some movies. I believe it has something to do with user permissions.

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    Anyone stupid enough to convert widescreen movies to fullscreen via the ZOOM needs to be taken out back and shot in the head.

    Stupid ass
    John, this is not worthy any comment. I suggest all of you jump anyone who posts in this Forum. After all anyone who's asking doesn't obviously know, "stupid ass"!

    I still don't have big widescreen and hate watching 16x9 on my 32 inch. It is a matter of preference whether you'd rather watch on about 50% of the screen (horizontal bars) or rather full screen. Many of those who preach 16x9 still have reg. 4x3 TV sets and just few years ago were perfectly happy with 4x3 VHS picture. I belong to those who still prefer to use full sq. footage of my screen vs. ticker tape of 16x9 which btw. only makes sense if you watch it on largest (movie theatre) screens. And I'll keep on watching using zoom untill I buy at least 60 inch display.

  17. If you want to watch full screen, then buy the full screen DVD, and don't try to convert a widescreen version to a "fake" full screen.

    The problem is completely avoidable. This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

  18. Just because defcon wants to do something than most other members in this thread see no merit in, does not mean it is open season for bashing him. Stop the bashing or I will hand out some warnings.

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    Originally Posted by jimmalenko
    I am sure that there will be a button on the remote that you can press to get rid of your annoying little symbol
    I take it that this didn't work...
    If in doubt, Google it.

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    Originally Posted by Craig Tucker
    Just because defcon wants to do something than most other members in this thread see no merit in, does not mean it is open season for bashing him. Stop the bashing or I will hand out some warnings.
    Fair's fair, Craig. A few people including myself threw a few hooks in the water and caught a whopper. That is all.

    You must admit, returning a dvd player because it won't do what it isn't meant to do is pretty rare.
    If in doubt, Google it.

  21. Originally Posted by jimmalenko
    You must admit, returning a dvd player because it won't do what it isn't meant to do is pretty rare.
    Until you test it you dont know what its full functionality will be. How may people have returned players that will not play CDR's or VCD or SVCD. A player may well play VCD but that is not necessarily listed in its specification, so until you try it you don't know. I know the last player I bought was not advertised as being region free, but when I tested it it was, if it was'nt then I would have returned it. Defcon simply wants a player that when its zoomed in does not display the zoom text on the screen, this is something you wont really be able to find out until you test the player. I am pretty sure (from memory) that if I zoom in on my DVD players at home that the zoom text along with the magnification factor is displayed but then dissapears after a few seconds.

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    Originally Posted by Craig Tucker
    Until you test it you dont know what its full functionality will be. How may people have returned players that will not play CDR's or VCD or SVCD. A player may well play VCD but that is not necessarily listed in its specification, so until you try it you don't know.
    There's no reason why a bit of research such as the DVD Players list here couldn't be done to ascertain this beforehand. I looked after this side of it by taking some DVDRs and VCDs into the shop with me. If it didn't play them, I didn't even think about taking them home. If the shopkeeper wasn't happy with that, he didn't get my sale. So yes, you can try before you buy.

    For the record, I use my TV to Zoom.

    Anyway, I'm over it.
    If in doubt, Google it.

  23. Originally Posted by jimmalenko
    There's no reason why a bit of research such as the DVD Players list here couldn't be done to ascertain this beforehand.
    If it's listed, sure. But as for the zoom caption, even the DVD player list would not give that sort of detailed information.

    Originally Posted by jimmalenko
    I looked after this side of it by taking some DVDRs and VCDs into the shop with me. If it didn't play them, I didn't even think about taking them home. If the shopkeeper wasn't happy with that, he didn't get my sale. So yes, you can try before you buy.
    Thats fine if you are buying from an AV store with the facility to do this. The player I just bought was only stocked by a particular supermarket chain, there is no facility to try it in store, but they are prepared to take it back if you are not satisfied with it. It was at such a good price, it would be silly to dismiss it just because you could not try it in store.

  24. Ya know the funny thing is about alot of the threads on this site including mine, is that you post a simple question (simply put) and get a bunch of responses that have no relevance or no value what so ever.....

    Lets see from John (Zomibie Boy) the dynamics of widescreen movies = I could care less about widescreen (my prefrence) and I do know the difference between 4:3 and 16:9

    A few others that believe that the remote has all the answers = already tried that and checked w/ the manufacturers and their is no way around it

    And BTW not all movies are available in fullscreen DVD format.....

    I am suprised that no one posted anything about why the freakin sun rises in the east, or whether Leprechans really exisits !?!

    The player list to the left has been very usefull (as many of the resources available on this site) however, you can not always have a solid answer until you try it or buy it....

    But I do appreciate all of those who have tried to help me with my quest and those who can relate to my post !!!

    Hopefully the next thread that pops up somewhere where (some) people just feel the need to bash the post will bite their tounge first, and maybe at minimum realize it's probably more beneficial to direct them somewhere or provide personal feedback (from experience) that could help them....... which is now why I have added a signature to my screen name

    All that being said, can anyone else recommend a player I am looking for
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    The box displayed when you zoom is a charactristic of Media-Tek chipsets. Look for earlier players with ESS chipsets,Daewoo 5700/5800,Sampo 612 are examples. I found that Apex players with ESS sets did not maintain a correct aspect ratio when zooming so I would avoid them.

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    Personally, I like the following players in order of preference: Sony, Panasonic, and Toshiba. The other players are good for the casual user, but I have had compatibility issues with some of the really cheap ones. My sister-in-law has an APEX (brand new!) and I actually noticed some jerky video scenes in a DVD that I had created.

    This DVD played fine in a Sony, Panasonic, and a Toshiba. I also tested it on a Samsung and had no problems. Bottom line is to follow the old adage "You get what you pay for."

    Suggestion: I believe that some Sony players have an option to show 16:9 footage in a full-screen mode. I won't even go into WHY the hell you want to do this, although a lot of fairly negative people have offered their views. Personally, I'm a widescreen fanatic and converted my wife fairly quickly when I was able to show her the difference on Raiders of the Lost Ark.

    Anyway, besides the point...if that's what you want, find a player and...TEST IT AT THE STORE...then buy it if you like it. Stores like Best Buy and Circuit City usually have no problem helping out; they want to make a sale after all!

    I don't honestly know which Sony player currently does this or not since the one that I have has lasted the past 5 years and is still running strong despite watching an average of 5-6 movies a week. I doubt, however, that you're interested in a 5-year old player... However, it is a testament to its durability.

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    I have a Cyberhome CH-DVD 300 which I purchased at Radio Shack for about $60 US. I think I've seen them at Target now for around $40 US.

    Whenever I have used the zoom function, it has never left an icon on the screen.

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    Thank God some guys came to their senses. What is it? 16x9 crusade?
    Some of you sound like "my way or highway". Total nonsense.
    Very disappointing especially in the light of language used by some long standing members. Can't believe it. I hope that you still have some decency left, appologize and bow out. That was unnecessary and unprovoked. Thanks Craig Tucker for letting in "some freash air".

    Back to the issue. Some say test it be4, some suggest remote tinkering some say buy fullscreen (how about rental? some movies are mostly on wide and 4x3 goes fast believe it or not) etc. I own JVC XVS 60. When I bought it few years ago it allowed zoom on most disks. But more and more wide movies disallow zoom (yes!) by forcing the player to keep the "zoom symbol" displayed in the corner. As I said it depends on the movie. Some are OK some not. I called JVC, explained, waited. They called Head Office, no resolution. Later they req. a response from Japan HQ. The answer was "we don't know how to address it". It took me about 2 months to come full circle to where I started. I'm not the guy to bother others with my questions (post in forums) so I let it go although it got stuck in the back of my mind. The problem is annoying and no wonder Defcon would like to have it fixed. Just like me. I know that it must have sth to do with DVD disk user permissions as more and more 16x9 movies (like "Lord of the Rings") are "locked" in 16x9, you can zoom it but the symbol stays (DVD disk makers must know about this "feature").
    As to watching movies, I like to have the freedom to decide which movie I watch 4x3 and which 16x9 but generally bigger is better for me. I'd rather sacrifice part of the movie then part of my screen. I find nothing wrong about it considering the fact that until few years ago the only place to watch wide was movie theater.

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    Originally Posted by Defcon
    Hopefully the next thread that pops up somewhere where (some) people just feel the need to bash the post will bite their tounge first, and maybe at minimum realize it's probably more beneficial to direct them somewhere or provide personal feedback (from experience) that could help them.......
    Don't get your hopes up too high. Here as in elsewhere, there is no shortage of people who will prove their inferiority by showing their superiority.
    Don't sweat the petty things, just pet the sweaty things.

  30. what exactly was the problem again?? Plz post a digicam picture ...I had zoom feature and it used to show a box on screen.. howver that was to show which part of the screen would get zoomed..
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