Emprex DVDRW 1008IM DVD Writer
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1 Edgetec 4xDVD-R (MCC 01RG20) comments, 1 good, 0 mixed, 0 poor.
1 GQ (Great Quality) 4xDVD+R (AML.....001) comments, 1 good, 0 mixed, 0 poor.
1 GQ (Great Quality) 4xDVD-R (LEADDATA01..) comments, 0 good, 0 mixed, 1 poor.
1 GQ (Great Quality) 8xDVD-R (MUST 003....) comments, 0 good, 0 mixed, 1 poor.
1 GQ (Great Quality) 8xDVD+R (OPTODISCOR8) comments, 0 good, 0 mixed, 1 poor.
1 Grade A Media 4xDVD-R (RITEKG04....) comments, 1 good, 0 mixed, 0 poor.
1 Imation 16xDVD+R (CMC MAG.M01) comments, 1 good, 0 mixed, 0 poor.
1 Imation 2.4xDVD+RW (CMC MAG.W01) comments, 1 good, 0 mixed, 0 poor.
1 Mirror Platinum 4xDVD+R (IS01....001) comments, 0 good, 0 mixed, 1 poor.
1 Mr. DVD 8xDVD+R (AML.....002) comments, 1 good, 0 mixed, 0 poor.
1 Packard Bell 2.4xDVD+RW (OPTODISCOP1) comments, 1 good, 0 mixed, 0 poor.
1 TDK 4xDVD+R (RICOHJPNR01) comments, 1 good, 0 mixed, 0 poor.
1 Verbatim (DataLifePlus) 4xDVD-R (MCC 01RG20) comments, 1 good, 0 mixed, 0 poor.
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recently purchased the emprex 1008IM burning fine on bulkpaq oranges and mirror 4x dvd-r. I then bought a 10 pk of datasafe dvd-rw 2x (ritek w01) and they burn perfectly. so i went and bought a 10pk of datasafe dvd+rw 4x ritek g04s and they are taking over an hour to burn with nero I check mf's site and they are compatibale and my firmware is up to date. contact customer support and explained few days later they replyed and sayed there was no problem burning the disks but they would investigated more.
Comments posted by briggsy from United Kingdom, June 29, 2004. Rated this writer No rating.
Purchased at the Woodland Hills Fry's for 89.00 when they were first released at that price. Threw it in a Fry's over-priced USB/FireWire enclosure. Bought cheap 1x media from shop4tech.com - burned 1 in 10 @ 4x as coasters, the rest were great @4x. I was hoping to get more reliabiliy out of it, however I do nto have a PC that I can use for the firmware update (no regular IDE available. HOWEVER for all interested I have found a way to flash the firmware via USB. I will post to the forum, but you can email me for details as well.
Comments posted by Howard Holton from United States, June 17, 2004. Rated this writer 7 of 10.
Hate to say it, but I took this back to Fry's and got my $69 refunded today. Why? Because I already have a 4x +/- burner (IOMagic branded Accestek Model DD0203 w/ 8 MB cache) and as far as my testing shows, that's all this so-called 8x burner is. It does burn reliably at 4x after updating firmware to v.0458, but along with at least a half-dozen coasters (no 8x RW available, hence 8x failures=coasters) I got exactly 2 8x burns that worked - one of which, when I tried to repeat success by burning from the same source a second time, failed on the second attempt. suggesting the source files aren't the problem. (HDD checked with NDD32, defragged using Norton Speed Disk, all non-essential tasks and processes shut down, internet connection physically unplugged.)
Using Memorex 8x +R media (on the Emperex.com or drvupdate.com site (I forget which) as an approved 8x +R media type), in 2 different machines (Athlon 900 w/ 512, Asus K7M MB, WD 7200 RPM 80 GB system drive, Maxtor 120 GB 7200 RPM ATA 133 data drive, Sil 0680 based ATA 133 HDD controller, fully patched W98SE; 1.0A GHz Celeron III on Asus TUA 266 w/ 512 DDR, dual Maxtor 120 HDD (see specs above) on Maxtor / Promise Tech ATA 133 controller, W2000 w/ SP4 (both systems w/ DirectX 9.0b), with two different software packages (EZ to hate Roxio CD Creator 6 (with most current patches, as usual w/ Roxio, didn't work at all before patching) as well as Nero 6 Ultra Buggy (tried out of box, with Mid-May 188.8.131.52 patch and with June 1 184.108.40.206 patch) All three versions of Nero6 are BUGGY as a summer night at 8x, although ok at 4x and sometimes 6x w/ this drive, didn't work reliably with my 4x drive at any speed. (Eh gads, back to Pinnacle Instant CD/DVD? Pinch me, I'm having a nightmare....
Hey - maybe I'm just an idiot, right? Maybe I got a lemon, right? Maybe you need a P4 (if I had targetting info, I might prefer an F-15 ...) never mind, just kidding. All the guys whining about this drive on Roxio's site were having same problems with this drive, despite having loaded P4 systems. I've been working with computers off and on (mostly on) for over 30 years (really, I even had a top-secret clearance and use of a DARPA net account many moons ago) - I build my own machines (latest 3 all in front of me, working OK), fix and troubleshoot machines for all my friends and family - I may be an obnoxious geek, but I really don't think my stupidity caused these problems. I can always get stuff to work if it is capable of working.
ADVICE: if 8x burning is part of your reason for purchase, don't lose that original receipt, and be sure to finish your testing within the 15 day return period at Fry's. For everyone else's sake, I'm hoping I got a lemon, but I wasted enough time on this to not want to try again, My speculation is that the 8MB cache on my 4x burner is there for a reason, and that 2MB cache drives at 8x with reliable burns is vaporware; real world testing of sustainable HDD throughput (not burst mode - I'm talking copying a 2GB file while timing it yourself) consistently demonstrates that parallel ATA on the PCI bus, in the absence of at least 7200 RPM AND 8 MB of cache on the drive, tops out between about 3.7 and 5.4 MB/sec - very roughly, off the top of my head, equiv. to about 2.4 - 4x in optical drive speed terminology.(Sustainable throughput rates vary as a f(many things) - block size, random vs sequential being the big ones - Adaptec's SCSI Bench will test drives that use a "SCSI' impersonating EIDE controller and graph the results on screen as you vary the block size, etc.
But hey. it's cheap!
Comments posted by Kendall from United States, June 13, 2004. Rated this writer 4 of 10.
I recently purchased this DVD burner and have had no problems. I am very pleased with the performance and am amazed that it is so quiet! Previously I had a DVD player installed in my computer and had to remove it for the simple reason that when I installed my DVD burner (Emprex) Windows XP didn't recognize it; however, after I physically removed the DVD player everything was fine!
Comments posted by Sam from United States, June 11, 2004. Rated this writer 9 of 10.
I got this Emprex writer at the new Fry's in Plano, TX for $69 about a week ago. It replaced a Pioneer A04, which I then put in my Mac G4. It's been a rock-solid performer. I haven't used DVDXCopy with it yet (I rarely used that), but I've used DVD Decrypter and Pinnacle Instant Copy to burn flawless backups. I've only used Fujifilm DVD-Rs (speed unmarked, but 2x) with it so far. My backups have been tested on both a Windoze XP machine and Mac OSX machine, PS2, XBox, and some el cheapo DVD player at a friend's house (sorry, the brand escapes me). All work perfectly. Awesome drive for a steal of a price.
Comments posted by markr04 from United States, May 22, 2004. Rated this writer 10 of 10.
I got Emprex1008IM and using DVDxCOPY, so far it's burning OK
but not playing on reg. DVDplayer, only play on my DVD-rom
in my computer ?
Any suggestions ?
PS: On reg. DVDplayer, it keeps loading and the player said
"NO DISC", I put that burned DVD disc into computer DVDrom,
it's playing fine ?
Comments posted by N. from United States, April 26, 2004. Rated this writer 5 of 10.
I bought the Dual 1008IM at Frys, Phoenix for $79.
The drive was recognized by motherboard/Windowx XP with no problems. The drive co-exists with anopther CD-ROM, it is set up as master, the other CD as slave (on the secondary IDE). The drive comes with Basic Roxio Creator version 6.
*** Installing this software it prompts to remove the previous version of Easy CD Creator (Platinum 5). Seems like a waste of money buying Platinum 5 (a couple of years back) for nearly the same price as the drive itself.
The Creator software checked and downloaded update on first install.
Shuttle, AN35N400 Ultra motherboard, CPU XP 2400+, 512 MB DDR.
I rapidly made 3 coasters. I first made an iso image to try to reduce burning risk. This was after capturing from miniDV via Firewire. Using The Frys brand DVD+R 4x, the burning stopped at about 20%. A reboot did not fix the problem, still another coaster was created.
I was able to burn a DVD-R 1x Frys brand. It plays well on the computer, but on RCA DRC7005N (digital recorder/DVD player) it has lots of jitters for the first 5 minutes. I burned about 2 hours worth of video. If I play with no fast forward, I've got to about 1/2 hour, however by fast forwarding through the chapters, it returns to the main menu at chapter 79 (many short video clips). It seems like the software might have lumped the last hour of video in the last chapter. So, I can't see the rest of the video using fast forward without jumping to the main menu. The picture looks somewhat pixulated. I don't know if it is the DVD player or the projection TV (HD erady, has line doubling for the standard broadcast TV. the line doubling may add artifacts.) Will have to run more tests to see if the Encodng process is not that good or is it the DVD player.
The next day, I made another coaster right off the bat with the same iso image trying to burn a DVD+R 4x frys brand. So far I have not been able to burn DVD+R.
Gut feeling is that drive is OK and software is screwing up. I am considering getting Nero. Will try to post update.
Comments posted by Cris Masgras from United States, April 26, 2004. Rated this writer No rating.
For $89 at Fry's Electronics this was a no brainer.
The 40x CDRW writing capability blows away even $300+ dvd-writers that have max 24x write. Has good buffer underrun protection too. I popped it in an cheap external USB 2.0 enclosure and it runs like a champ. Only thing is you can't upgrade the firmware of the unit via a USB link.
Oh, and make sure you buy quality media, i've had some probblems with the crappier brands. Overall a good drive for the money.
Coupled with DVD-X Copy produces some impressive results.
I'm guessing it will break down in a few years, but we will see.
Comments posted by tom from United States, April 11, 2004. Rated this writer 10 of 10.
I saw this at Fry's for $99 and it being a 8X DVD+R writer, 4x DVD-R, 40X CDR, I was too tempted to take it home and at least give it a try. I currently have a Sony DRX-500UL (DRU500A in ext box) and have used it for about 1.5 years now. I was happy with the Sony but just wanted to test out this new drive for a friend.
I also own a Verbatim 32124QAL reader (which at the time was the fastest LiteOn drive for ripping). I bought the LiteOn because I found the Sony took nearly an hour to rip a 2 layer full length DVD and the LiteOn only about 15 minutes.
But back to the new burner:
I got home, slipped it in and was amazed! I test burners by a) how fast they rip b) how fast they write c) how cheap of media they can burn.
This DVD beat my Sony DRU-500a hands down in both a) ripping speed and c) burning very cheap media. The write speed using Nero was about the same. As a test, I backed up my Saving Nemo DVD and the burner ripped it in about 12 minutes or slightly faster than the LiteOn. Great! Then I put in a Omnidisk 4X that I recently discovered was failing at the very exterior tracks on the Sony 500a (my set top players as well as PC reader would start stuttering during the final credits as well as seeming to have a problem spinning up). The Emprex burned fine to the Omnidisk 4X media that the Sony previously failed to. I took the same movie that had failed on the Sony, burned it on the Emprex and played it on my Norcent DP300. It played all the way through the credits this time without a single stutter.
Overall, I don't know how long this DVD will last but out of the box it outperforms my Sony 500a, and I must say it is disappointing to see this $99 wonder beat out something I paid $400 for a little over a year ago. But such is the hardware saga :-(.
If you can find this burner, I think it is a good unit overall. I am sure the gurus will have many more tests to run, but this unit meets all my personal needs.
By the way, I believe the burner is the same as BTC DRW1008IM.
Comments posted by Don Phillipe from United States, April 06, 2004. Rated this writer 8 of 10.
IT IS A REALLY GOOD BURNER WILL BURN ALMOST EVERY MEDIA
IF YOU SET IT TO 2 SPEED. ONLY WITH CHEAP MEDIA. IF YOU WANT TO BURN AT 4/8 SPEED YOU WILL HAVE TO PUT YOU HAND IN YOUR POCKET
Comments posted by PAUL from United Kingdom, March 04, 2004. Rated this writer 5 of 10.
Burned a DVD that worked on my 4 year old DVD player Philips 711 and UNMODDED Playstation 2. Works great.
Ripped with DVD Decrypter, Encoded with DVD Shrink, Burned with Nero Burning Rom.
Comments posted by chris from United States, March 03, 2004. Rated this writer 10 of 10.
9 out of 10 because I didnt try the software that came with it, only PowerDVD to watch movies. I purchased the Emprex DualDVD8x model #1008IM at my local Frys in Dallas TX. Using Sony DVD+R media (DPR47L2) that I purchased there as well.
Follow Hembo's guide at this forum. You'll have to create a username and wait for email confirm but the confirmation is very fast and worth the little extra time: http://forum.dvddecrypter.com/index.php?showtopic=3360
Rip the DVD with DVDdecrypter (free), Re-Author/compress with DVDShrink 3.1 (free- if the size of the movie is too large to fit on a single DVD blank this will compress it), THEN create an Image AND burn with Nero6 (69.99US i think?).
First dvd with this method was a success! I tried dvdXcopy Platinum to no avail, 3 coasters with that.
Hope this was enough info for ya! Email me if you have any questions.
Comments posted by dotcombust from United States, February 29, 2004. Rated this writer 9 of 10.
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Original Equipment Manufacturer.
The manufacturer of the main chipset the DVD writer/recorder is based on.
Write support / Read support
DVD-R = Works
DVD-R? = Not tested
Single Layer(4.7GB) write speeds
1x (CLV) = about 58 minutes
2x (CLV) = about 29 minutes
2.4x (CLV) = about 24 minutes
4x (CLV) = about 14.5 minutes
6x (CLV/ZCLV) = about 10-12 minutes
8x (PCAV/ZCLV) = about 8-10 minutes
12x (PCAV/ZCLV) = about 6.5-7.5 minutes
16x (CAV/ZCLV) = about 6-7 minutes
Dual/Double Layer(8.5GB) write speeds
1x CLV = about 105 minutes
2.4x CLV = about 44 minutes
4x CLV = about 27 minutes
Single Layer (4.7GB) read speeds
1x read speed is 1.321MB/s = ~56 minutes
6x CAV (avg. ~4x) read speed is max 7.93MB/s = ~14 minutes
8x CAV (avg. ~6x) read speed is max 10.57MB/s = ~10 minutes
12x CAV (avg. ~8x) read speed is max 15.85MB/s = ~7 minutes
16x CAV (avg. ~12x) read speed is max 21.13MB/s = ~5 minutes
DVD Write types
CAV = Constant Angular Velocity, the DVD is written at a constantly increasing speed.
CLV = Constant Linear Velocity, the DVD is written at a constant speed.
ZCLV = Zone Constant Linear Velocity, the DVD is divided into zones. After each zone the write speed is increased.
PCAV = Partial Constant Angular Velocity, the DVD is being written at an increasing speed until a certain speed. After this speed it will not increase anymore.
Desktop = Standalone desktop DVD Recorder
EIDE = Computer DVD Writer with EIDE/IDE connection
SCSI = Computer DVD Writer with SCSI connection
USB = Computer desktop DVD Writer with USB 2.0 or/and 1.1 connection
FireWire = Computer desktop DVD Writer with IEEE 1394/FireWire/i.Link connection (some standalone desktop dvd recorder supports this also but then it is usually to connect your DV camera to the recorder)
The first rating is based on a weighted rank (the true Bayesian), it requires at least 5 votes to get a weighted rating.
The second rating between the ( ) is a normal average rating.