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Windows 7 is out, have you upgraded?

Baldrick posted 2009 Oct 25 04:39
Yep, I'm running windows 7 on one of my computers since a few weeks. Very stable and fast so far.


HemLok posted 2009 Oct 25 04:54
I wiped my Vista Ultimate SP2 (64-bit) system over 2 months ago and did a clean Windows 7 Ultimate (64-bit) RTM install. I have zero regrets with moving to Windows 7.


rhegedus posted 2009 Oct 25 05:11
Yes.

Was running 64bit demo, now running Ultimate 64bit.

Very smooth.



lordsmurf posted 2009 Oct 25 05:38
Nope, no reason.
Windows Vista on a pair of systems, XP on all the others.



yoda313 posted 2009 Oct 25 08:23
Not yet.

I need another option - Using vista because it works - not because its crap.

I have vista on my dual core amd 2.7ghz pc and xp on my older single core 2.66ghz emachine that is still kicking - in fact I'm typing on it right now and its got to be 5 years old or more. THough it has had transplants :)



lacywest posted 2009 Oct 25 09:05
Been messing with win 7 for since Feb 2009 ... currently on this PC Im typing on ... it is a dual boot ... WINXP and WIN 7.

PC in bedroom is different story ... XP MCE2005 and Vista Ultimate x64 and if I boot to the drive that I send my recorded videos too ... it will boot to Windows 7 Ultimate x64 ... its the Media Center on Vista x64 SP2 that works very good and the Media Center on WIN 7 x64 Ultimate is also very good.



usually_quiet posted 2009 Oct 25 09:43
I haven't upgraded yet, although I do have an Vista Home Premium with an upgrade coupon. If possible, I'll wait at least a few months to see if any serious problems are discovered before installing it on my new computer.

I still have an old Dell as well that I use once in a while, built at the end of 2001, running windows XP. It can't be upgraded enough to run either Vista or Windows 7 competantly.



MJA posted 2009 Oct 25 09:55
happy Vista owner here.


edDV posted 2009 Oct 25 10:17
I've partitioned with dual boot XP and Win7 in mind. Currently two machines are running Vista and two the Win7 RC. I have the Win7 Home Premium 3x Family pack on order. I may keep one Vista Ultimate for connection to business servers, but will probably upgrade that to Win7 Pro later.

I've also got a Win7 Home Premium Upgrade for my Vista laptop.

Also there is the HP MediaSmart Server running Windows Home Server. I learned yesterday that a Power Pack 3 upgrade will be available in November to handle Win 7 specific issues.



dessieclive posted 2009 Oct 25 10:55
yep 7 is faster than xppro & vista


Lawbringer posted 2009 Oct 25 11:01
Happy with Vista x64. Will probably get Win7 when I build my next machine.


handyguy posted 2009 Oct 25 11:34
Baldrick :
Yep, I'm running windows 7 on one of my computers since a few weeks. Very stable and fast so far.


Compare to what?



redwudz posted 2009 Oct 25 11:42
Just got my W7 disc, but waiting delivery of a 150GB Raptor for the boot drive. My SSD will be retired to a scratch drive. :)


rumplestiltskin posted 2009 Oct 25 11:53
I use OSX 99%+ pf the time. I did put Windows 7 on an old Acer laptop I have and, surprise!, it runs fairly well. The real test will be when I download all of the "free apps" that Microsoft saw fit to exclude from the distribution (whatever M$ calls their iApps) and we'll see if W7 is more than just a means to run Office 2007.


vhelp posted 2009 Oct 25 12:13
I voted No, Windows XP is still the best. for the moment.

Baldrick :
Yep, I'm running windows 7 on one of my computers since a few weeks. Very stable and fast so far.


nope, not yet.. still on WIN98 (internet) and XP Home (video workstation)

I saw it running on an pre-built e-machine at bestbuy I had my eye on a couple of week ago. My first impression was, I *really* like it, (like you said, it was fast) and it was on sale for $299, or $350 (the 350 was faster) but I ran out of time, sale ended. I must admit, it does look good (stable, that is) and obviously a quick kill of prev os, Vista.

I am considering it (in a new fully built system rather than build myself this time) if price is right and if they can image it to a backup disc so I can pop it in every day--If I go this route, this could push me to consider upgrading to a faster than 56k modem, and it could be my new internet pc. After nearly 17 years on dialup I think I could use an upgrade, I suppose :lol: At least I'm finally considering it cause we our having our lines rewired with improved phonelines for fios i guess. I wonder what they'll be [s:beeac1e5d4]tempting[/s:beeac1e5d4] offering us with, first it was cable, now its verison.

In any case, I might wait till black-friday to get some of these things, this time.

-vhelp 5239



edDV posted 2009 Oct 25 12:58
Check out the "7 days of Windows 7 savings" computer deals on the Microsoft site.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/offers/7-days/

Look at this

HP Laptop, Netbook, Desktop and a router with install all for $1199 (same as the cheapest iMac).
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/offers/7-days/Compare.aspx?filter=Best Buy



TBoneit posted 2009 Oct 25 13:30
Where was the choice for eventually I'll have a new machine with W7?

I'm sure my Q6600 with 4Gb would run W7 fine. However When XP works OK on it too, Why spend the money? Oh wait, That's right I'm the guy that didn't replace his old car when it was paid for. 5 minutes of driving to work and then back home at really high speed (up to 40Mph that is). So the AC is dead. several days a year I even miss the AC. The heater died in 97, I finally got it fixed.... hmmm... heat or W7.... heat won.

Or to put it another way, It ain't broke so I ain't fixing it. I'll have to fix it when Microsoft stops the security updates or I can't get AV apps for it, whichever comes first.

I expect support for a while on XP since Netbooks are being sold with XPHome currently and We've been selling New Toshibas that had Vista Business and recovery media to switch to XP Pro this year.

BTW I suspect that Netbooks and XPH were one of teh driving forces to get W& out the door.

Cheers



edDV posted 2009 Oct 25 13:51
When XP came out, people said they would stay with stable Win2000 or Win98SE.

When Win 8 comes out, people will want to stay on stable Win7.



CogoSWSDS posted 2009 Oct 25 14:06
Where's the "Running XP, waiting for Windows 7 SP1 so the bugs will be worked out" option? :-)

I'm actually still running 98SE on one machine and XP SP3 on the other two.



edDV posted 2009 Oct 25 14:09
15 million used the Win7 Beta and all were being monitored under the Beta terms. I think we got the SP1 this week.


gadgetguy posted 2009 Oct 25 18:12
Still on Win2K on my primary, XP on my laptop. If or when I can finally upgrade my hardware, it will probably come with Win7, but until then (in other words, for the foreseeable future), I'll be staying with what I have.


minidv2dvd posted 2009 Oct 25 22:46
i just got a free copy of Windows Server 2008 R2(from my kid who's in the dreamspark program) i think i may build a dual quad-core box for us to test it out on. support for 256 cpus, but i don't think i can afford that many :) based on the same nt6.1 as win7 i believe. haven't a clue what will run on it yet though...

ouch - dual xeon 55xx's won't come cheap. just checked newegg.



edDV posted 2009 Oct 26 01:15
minidv2dvd :
i just got a free copy of Windows Server 2008 R2(from my kid who's in the dreamspark program) i think i may build a dual quad-core box for us to test it out on. support for 256 cpus, but i don't think i can afford that many :) based on the same nt6.1 as win7 i believe. haven't a clue what will run on it yet though...

ouch - dual xeon 55xx's won't come cheap. just checked newegg.


Why put that much CPU on a server? Use them for a workstation instead.



budz posted 2009 Oct 26 01:36
I get my W7 home 32 bit on Tuesday which will be installed on my mini itx system that's hooked up to my 40 inch LCD TV. All my other pc's run XP PRO which is great. I've been using W7 RTM version for awhile now with my mini itx system and I do like it.


Dv8ted2 posted 2009 Oct 26 03:54
My netbook has running 7 Ultimate for a while. My main desktop is running Vista Business SP2. I have a Ubuntu system and another running XPSP3.


zoobie posted 2009 Oct 26 04:14
it's early but it looks like XP is blowing away the competition

I'm thinking Arbys



guns1inger posted 2009 Oct 26 04:16
Been running the Beta/RCs on a tablet notebook for months with no problems. Will probably get a new boot drive for the desktop and keep the old XP drive on ice for a little while when I upgrade.

I like W7 so far, but it certainly does need more grunt than XP to get the same performance



handyguy posted 2009 Oct 26 10:38
No doubt W7 is fast. But then so would XP be on those new quad core computers.

w7 compatibility checker at MS says I would need a new scanner.



neomaine posted 2009 Oct 26 11:16
Been running fine on my main machine for about a month. Upgraded a Vista Ult 64 to Win7 Ult 64 with no issues*. Although I had been running fine with Vista, with admittedly some UAC tweaks. However, I haven't applied those same UAC tweaks tweaks to Win7. UAC is plays much more nicely this time around.

(* = Well, once I found out the *real* issue. Had a virtual IDE driver leftover from a daemon tools uninstall that the Win7 hardware check didn't like. Actually, forced the upgrade to back out. Didn't feel like a clean install... probably should have... but things have been running just fine.)



Constant Gardener posted 2009 Oct 26 12:30
I'm "rebuilding" an old computer - meaning I'm keeping the case - and I will install Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit. I have to maintain the illusion that I know what I am talking about when people ask for my opinion on computer stuff. The rest of the family computers will stay on XP3 for now.


SatStorm posted 2009 Oct 26 13:50
Win XP SP3 here. No money to spent on an upgrade.

Also Ubuntu on dual boot, but I rarely use it.



Noahtuck posted 2009 Oct 26 21:17
I must admit even though i just went to Vista Ultimate maybe a month or two ago on my new build i am seriously thinking about putting on W7 and seeing how it runs.

I have had some weird "glitches" and some software not seem to work alright even though it is the 64bit version.
And some other 32 bit programs.
But for the most part it's been okay.

And going to a new OS this soon would be a first for me because it usually takes me a couple of years to go to the newest Windows, it's usually pretty fixed up by then :lol:

handyguy :
No doubt W7 is fast. But then so would XP be on those new quad core computers.

From what i have read 7 is faster then XP on the same setup, but that's just what i have read.

handyguy :
w7 compatibility checker at MS says I would need a new scanner.

I would blame the scanner manufacturer.
I had the same problem with my expensive scanner when i went to XP pro way back when, the manufacturer said they would not be releasing drivers for most of their scanners for XP :evil:

I did not buy my new scanner from them!!



usually_quiet posted 2009 Oct 26 22:35
Noahtuck :

I had the same problem with my expensive scanner when i went to XP pro way back when, the manufacturer said they would not be releasing drivers for most of their scanners for XP :evil:

I did not buy my new scanner from them!!

I blame both Microsoft and equipment manufacturers. Microsoft for making it necessary to write new drivers and requiring validation for them, and the manufacturers for not supporting their products long enough. Admittedly they can't support them forever, but 5 years would be nice. (A disgruntled Visioneer scanner owner.)



Rudyard posted 2009 Oct 26 23:36
Not yet, I have never once upgraded (since the ms dos days!) my OS and just get it when I get a new computer every 5 or so years.

Running XP SP2 on the old laptop, XP SP3 on the desktop at home and VISTA SP1 on the work PC.

Am due to upgrade the desktop next year and will get 7 then.

When things are working I generally stick to it until its new PC time, and so far I have had no issues with XP or VISTA and as such they are running happily on my respective machines, so its not that I dont want 7 or have anything against it, its just there is no reason for me to do it.



Rudyard posted 2009 Oct 26 23:39
usually_quiet :
Noahtuck :

I had the same problem with my expensive scanner when i went to XP pro way back when, the manufacturer said they would not be releasing drivers for most of their scanners for XP :evil:

I did not buy my new scanner from them!!

I blame both Microsoft and equipment manufacturers. Microsoft for making it necessary to write new drivers and requiring validation for them, and the manufacturers for not supporting their products long enough. Admittedly they can't support them forever, but 5 years would be nice. (A disgruntled Visioneer scanner owner.)


I blame the manufacturers of high end stuff. I have a 4.5k large scale plotter that HP decided would not write a driver for vista for but told me they would sell me a new VISTA ready plotter.

Needless to say they are told they can get F***ed and will never get a dollar from me again.

The laptop with XP gets all documents send to it and then printed from there.



Noahtuck posted 2009 Oct 26 23:58
@ Rudyard
Exactly!!!

usually_quiet :
I blame both Microsoft and equipment manufacturers.

Why M$ ??
I am no M$ fanboy, but why should it be their responsibility to make sure their "ONE" OS works with every 1,000/1,000,000 pieces of hardware/software out there ?

It is the 1000's of hardware manufacturers responsibility to make sure their equipment works under what ever OS people are using...
Like it is so hard for them to make a new 50kb driver file that works under the newest OS......

But then if they did that they would not make the big $$$!!
The only way they do that is to charge you again for a new piece of hardware!!

But it is a double edged sword.....

Otherwise we would still be using 2.0 audio and VCD's!!!!!!!

Progress is good yet it really screws us!!!
:lol:



guns1inger posted 2009 Oct 27 03:37
And with both Vista, and especially with W7, manufacturers have had huge lead times to release to get their sh*t together, and yet many still cannot.


16mmJunkie posted 2009 Oct 27 09:14
Like many I have been running Windows 7 RC for awhile on a spare machine. It's nice looking and works well. I opted for the 64 bit OS. But I still have XP on 2 machines, 98 on a AMD 450mhz one, and Linux just recently as a dual boot. I much more prefer the Linux system over Windows right now. It does what I need to do so far on the projects I've tested. Yes, I still use XP for my paying projects, but sure as time goes on Linux will replace Windows for me. Heck you can't beat the price. You just have to take the time to learn. Much like I did with Windows :wink:



16mmJunkie



handyguy posted 2009 Oct 27 11:15
From what I read 32 bit takes a top of 4gb. So start with 64 bit to be future proof.


tun.tin posted 2009 Oct 27 11:18
Noo, I have been using XP x64 since it released and still run great


wulf109 posted 2009 Oct 27 17:19
I think MS made a mistake in not allowing you to upgrade from XP. There are probably millions of computers that never converted to Vista. There upgrade path to W7 is un-necessarilly complicated and many never go to W7 bacause of this.


edDV posted 2009 Oct 27 17:30
wulf109 :
I think MS made a mistake in not allowing you to upgrade from XP. There are probably millions of computers that never converted to Vista. There upgrade path to W7 is un-necessarilly complicated and many never go to W7 bacause of this.


You can upgrade from XP.

"Upgrade" has two meanings
1. Transfer of licence. Yes you can use use the upgrade version from an XP license.
2. Install over an existing installation. You can do this for Vista but for XP you need to install to a fresh partition.

See http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/



wtsinnc posted 2009 Oct 27 17:43
My basic needs are met by XP, so there's no need to move to Windows 7 for everyday use.

I ran W-7 Beta, then RC-1, and now have a 90 day trial for W-7 Enterprise.
I do believe "7" is better than Vista (I own Ultimate), but I intend to stay with XP as long as I can.

Perhaps I'll change my mind in about three years when Windows 8 arrives.



edDV posted 2009 Oct 27 17:49
I keep an XP dual boot for the older programs and/or if I need to use old hardware.

I even have Win98SE on one machine for the very old Pinnacle/Miro hardware.



usually_quiet posted 2009 Oct 27 17:54
Noahtuck :
@ Rudyard
Exactly!!!

usually_quiet :
I blame both Microsoft and equipment manufacturers.

Why M$ ??
I am no M$ fanboy, but why should it be their responsibility to make sure their "ONE" OS works with every 1,000/1,000,000 pieces of hardware/software out there ?

It is the 1000's of hardware manufacturers responsibility to make sure their equipment works under what ever OS people are using...
Like it is so hard for them to make a new 50kb driver file that works under the newest OS......

But then if they did that they would not make the big $$$!!
The only way they do that is to charge you again for a new piece of hardware!!

But it is a double edged sword.....

Otherwise we would still be using 2.0 audio and VCD's!!!!!!!

Progress is good yet it really screws us!!!
:lol:

Actually Microsoft IS taking on the responsibility to make sure their "ONE" OS works with every piece of hardware out there. Unlike windows XP, Vista and Windows 7 won't accept a driver that Microsoft has not certified and issued a proper digital signature. The problem is the manufacturer has to pay them big bucks for it, and they'd rather not for their older products.



roma_turok posted 2009 Oct 28 00:51
Windows 7/vista less functions than XP
After testing Windows 7, I stain with XP.



handyguy posted 2009 Oct 28 11:16
I have XP, MS compatibility checker said I could use W7 but just have to do a clean install of it.


wulf109 posted 2009 Oct 28 15:45
I did install W7 on a computer that had XP on it. It installed W7 but moved all the XP files to a directory called oldwindows.


p_l posted 2009 Oct 28 15:57
There's a tool now to help easily transfer documents and settings from XP up to Windows 7.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/features/win ... y-transfer

The time it would take, though, to reinstall all my programs is what discourages me from moving from XP to 7. What I would really need is something that could automatically transfer all the programs already installed on an XP over to a Windows 7. Does such a beast exist?



victoriabears posted 2009 Oct 28 20:54
Without ever really believing that companies set out to do this, has MS done a really good job of having Vista as an OS everyone seems to hate, so windows 7 is so welcome.

I am running xp thank you very much and might upgrade to 7 when I buy a new PC a 2-3 years time, my laptop has Vista on as that was how it came and it runs great. Have a home network that runs very well and all my vidoe editing needs are met.

Why upgrade to 7, educate me.



vcdlover posted 2009 Oct 29 06:52
I just installed Windows 7 Ultimate (full retail version) on my PC and it seems to run fine. All drivers are installed automatically, except for the Creative Labs X-Fi sound card which I have to go to their site and download it myself. I have some experience with Vista and I could say that I like Windows 7 is nicer and the color is more vivid. I should receive my Windows Home Upgrade today and plan to upgrade my laptop which is running XP right now.

I have a question that if I have to reformat and install new OS on my machines in case any hardware change or whatever reason, will I have any issue reactivate the OS again? I have read it somewhere that we may run into some issues.

Thanks



El Heggunte posted 2009 Oct 29 07:08
I'm still waiting for "7Lite". :D


edDV posted 2009 Oct 29 12:28
vcdlover :
I just installed Windows 7 Ultimate (full retail version) on my PC and it seems to run fine. All drivers are installed automatically, except for the Creative Labs X-Fi sound card which I have to go to their site and download it myself. I have some experience with Vista and I could say that I like Windows 7 is nicer and the color is more vivid. I should receive my Windows Home Upgrade today and plan to upgrade my laptop which is running XP right now.

I have a question that if I have to reformat and install new OS on my machines in case any hardware change or whatever reason, will I have any issue reactivate the OS again? I have read it somewhere that we may run into some issues.

Thanks


Follow you laptop manufacturer's instructions for upgrading to Win7. Laptops have proprietary drivers that are probably not included on the Win7 upgrade disc. When you complete your install, create a disc image (both the boot partition and windows partition) for easy restore should the hard disc stop working.



edDV posted 2009 Oct 29 12:35
victoriabears :

Why upgrade to 7, educate me.


If you go through the features list and see nothing of interest, don't buy it. If you use mostly third party application software, there is no need to upgrade the OS. That is why most businesses have stayed on XP. They will upgrade when the application software or security requirements demand it.



Xylob the Destroyer posted 2009 Oct 29 14:52
NOPE - XP "Home" on 3 PCs, Vista on the laptop (came with it), and Win2K on the juke-box PC.


TheFamilyMan posted 2009 Oct 29 14:59
Yes, though I installed it (64 bit) on a brand new i7 860 based computer that I built up last weekend. On my old rig, XP home 32 bit will stay.


redwudz posted 2009 Oct 29 20:30
I installed W7 32bit on my Intel PC, 4GB RAM, 3.4Ghz CPU. I did a clean install on a 150GB Raptor boot drive. No problems so far. :) All my software already runs on Vista, so no problems with W7. I did make a few W7 changes, but just minor stuff. Evaluating at present.

I did have to DL a ATI Radeon driver as W7 didn't have a 1680 X 1050 display format for my 22" LCD display. But the ATI drivers worked fine. All other drivers came from W7.



someguyfromla posted 2009 Oct 29 20:35
Installed it the other day on a spare HDD,
I liked the HD look and DirectX 10 seems faster,
even with the Aero theme, all windows perform smoothly.

I had trouble with the OS detecting only 2 of my 3 SATA drives,
and also all the installers from my MOBO were incompatible, I had
to get updated versions from the manufacturer site.

I gave it some thought and decided to stick with Windows Xp SP3
some more time.



vcdlover posted 2009 Oct 30 07:10
edDV :
vcdlover :
I just installed Windows 7 Ultimate (full retail version) on my PC and it seems to run fine. All drivers are installed automatically, except for the Creative Labs X-Fi sound card which I have to go to their site and download it myself. I have some experience with Vista and I could say that I like Windows 7 is nicer and the color is more vivid. I should receive my Windows Home Upgrade today and plan to upgrade my laptop which is running XP right now.

I have a question that if I have to reformat and install new OS on my machines in case any hardware change or whatever reason, will I have any issue reactivate the OS again? I have read it somewhere that we may run into some issues.

Thanks


Follow you laptop manufacturer's instructions for upgrading to Win7. Laptops have proprietary drivers that are probably not included on the Win7 upgrade disc. When you complete your install, create a disc image (both the boot partition and windows partition) for easy restore should the hard disc stop working.


edDV,
What software would you recommend to make a disc image? Will Windows 7 prompt to reactivate the code again if I reload the image?

Thanks



edDV posted 2009 Oct 30 10:22
Popular imaging software is Symantec Ghost. Most new retail drives come with imaging software on an enclosed CD. Shareware and freeware imaging software is also available.

Windows sometimes requests reactivation if it sees a hardware change. Worst case you call them. An image restore should not trigger reactivation.



vcdlover posted 2009 Oct 30 12:53
edDV :
Popular imaging software is Symantec Ghost. Most new retail drives come with imaging software on an enclosed CD. Shareware and freeware imaging software is also available.

Windows sometimes requests reactivation if it sees a hardware change. Worst case you call them. An image restore should not trigger reactivation.


Thanks edDV

I'll do more research on this.



jg0001 posted 2009 Oct 30 13:05
yoda313 :
Not yet.

I need another option - Using vista because it works - not because its crap.

I have vista on my dual core amd 2.7ghz pc and xp on my older single core 2.66ghz emachine that is still kicking - in fact I'm typing on it right now and its got to be 5 years old or more. THough it has had transplants :)


If you decide to try it, perhaps consider my route--

I bought the Win7 Home Premium Family Pack upgrade, good for 3 PCs (and costs only $150! that's $50 per PC!)

In Vista, I 'shrank' the partition of the OS drive (leaving it about 30 extra GB). I then installed the Win7 'upgrade' to the other partition -- it automatically adds in the boot loader selector. Now I have BOTH and can slowly transition from Vista to Win7, using the same data for each (I keep data on a completely separate drive). I had no issues whatsoever doing this -- I wasn't sure it would be possible with the upgrade disc, but it went in just fine.

All together, the switch from Vista only to dual boot with Win7 took about an hour. Mind you, I keep almost nothing but the OS and main programs on my C: drives.

Also, it is worth noting that in this dual boot setup, whichever OS you choose (at boot, each time) gets the C: label in that version of windows, and you can label the other OS partition as you like. For me, the OS that's loaded gets C: and the other is G:. My data is on F: regardless. (So when I select Win7, it shows up as C: and Vista as G: -- when I select Vista at boot, it shows up as C: and Win7 as G:).

If you're like me and you keep data separate from the OS drive, this is an easy "do", with ready access to the old setup.



MOVIEGEEK posted 2009 Oct 30 13:26
I won't be upgrading my desktop for awhile because my printer and scanner aren't Win7 compatible, my laptop is too old to be upgraded.
Since XP will be supported until 2014 I think I will wait until my desktop dies.



ron spencer posted 2009 Oct 30 13:31
yep..2014 for me. I really like XP. Not sure what the benefits of 7 are over XP.


paulw posted 2009 Oct 30 19:30
I am using W7 RC on one PC here but and the $$ in Micro$oft is to the for where I live I'll be giving it a miss for the next 6 months or so.. No family pack installs, no good student discounts and most retailers are advertizing upgrades only as they look cheaper..


yoda313 posted 2009 Oct 30 20:21
jg0001 :
I bought the Win7 Home Premium Family Pack upgrade, good for 3 PCs (and costs only $150! that's $50 per PC!)


I don't know. My vista is an oem version that came with my hp. THat doesn't count for an upgrade version does it?

Also I recently had to splurge on a replacemnt xbox 360 when my other rrod'd again (red ring of death) so I'm not in a hurry to spend that type of money this soon.



Constant Gardener posted 2009 Oct 30 20:58
I had intended to put Windows 7 on the computer I'm rebuilding, but then I ran the update tool. Win7 does not approve of my video card, printers, scanner, backup software, partition utility, and a few others. So the rebuilt machine will get XP3, at least for now.


jg0001 posted 2009 Oct 30 22:51
yoda313 :
jg0001 :
I bought the Win7 Home Premium Family Pack upgrade, good for 3 PCs (and costs only $150! that's $50 per PC!)


I don't know. My vista is an oem version that came with my hp. THat doesn't count for an upgrade version does it?

Also I recently had to splurge on a replacemnt xbox 360 when my other rrod'd again (red ring of death) so I'm not in a hurry to spend that type of money this soon.


My Vista was an OEM version (purchased that way from Newegg). As was my XP installation. No problems with the upgrade. I even had to reinstall my Office 2007 program (home/student edition) and it went it without complaint (even though that technically was the '4th' install, if you count the version installed under Vista).



edDV posted 2009 Oct 31 01:24
The Win7 upgrades work with any authernticated XP or Vista.


handyguy posted 2009 Oct 31 12:15
I looked for a new W7 computer & they aren't very impressive compared to what I have with XP at the moment. I thought with Moore's law we would have 300ghz computers by now.


yoda313 posted 2009 Oct 31 12:20
handyguy :
I looked for a new W7 computer & they aren't very impressive compared to what I have with XP at the moment. I thought with Moore's law we would have 300ghz computers by now.
@handyguy - they are now shooting for multicore machines rather than sheer speed. Sure speed is important but they are bunching them up so they can multitask more.

Don't forget they are starting to do the gpu processing on certain graphics cards so you can get an additional performance boost.

It's quality not just quantity remember :)



mrswla posted 2009 Oct 31 12:45
edDV :
The Win7 upgrades work with any authernticated XP or Vista.


I have a question about the win7 upgrade. I had XP running on my machine but than formatted the HD and installed win7 RC about 6 months or so ago. If I buy the upgrade will I have to reinstall XP or what?

Thanks.



SingSing posted 2009 Nov 02 07:27
The answer is not now. Even I get a stable windows 7 to run, I still see I will run copy of XP, for pratical reason.


SingSing posted 2009 Nov 02 07:32
yoda313 :
they are now shooting for multicore machines rather than sheer speed. Sure speed is important but they are bunching them up so they can multitask more.

Don't forget they are starting to do the gpu processing on certain graphics cards so you can get an additional performance boost.

It's quality not just quantity remember :)


Multi-core CPU only help a bit. Wave and C## are not taking over the world.

Nearly all the power computing software only run single core.



jagabo posted 2009 Nov 02 08:47
yoda313 :
handyguy :
I looked for a new W7 computer & they aren't very impressive compared to what I have with XP at the moment. I thought with Moore's law we would have 300ghz computers by now.
@handyguy - they are now shooting for multicore machines rather than sheer speed. Sure speed is important but they are bunching them up so they can multitask more.

Keep in mind that, as a general rule, and other things being equal, power consumption goes up with the square of the clock speed. So going from 2 GHz to 4 GHz will quadruple power consumption. Going from 1 core to 2 cores only doubles power consumption. This, coupled with the fact that manufacturing processes haven't been able to reduce power consumption by decreasing the voltage and component size the way they used to, has led to the current situation.




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