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What the bloody... burn speed suddenly plummits...

Hal05154 posted 2008 Mar 09 07:41

All of the sudden my burn speed has crashed. What used to take 20 - 30 minutes to burn a standard dvd now is taking almost 14 hours! The only thing I see that MAY be causing a problem is the Device Buffer is only 4% and holding steady. I'm using Isoburn at the moment, but the problem also accord with DVDFab. Can anyone give me a hint as to what may be going on? Thanks! Hal

boldego posted 2008 Mar 09 07:55

Maybe it switched from DMA to PIO http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=61905

Hal05154 posted 2008 Mar 09 08:11

Any idea how to check this problem in Vista? It's a new machine w/ Vista and I am still trying to get used to it. I have ATA Channels rather than IDE. New hardware system and I am not up on it yet. Thanks! Hal

boldego posted 2008 Mar 09 08:23

http://club.cdfreaks.com/f61/troubleshooting-enabling-checking-dm ... 9x-101616/ check this link

Hal05154 posted 2008 Mar 09 08:33

Hey boldego... I just read Wombles guide on fixing DMA problems, but when I got into my Device Manager, and looked at the ATA Channels, there WERE NO DEVICES LISTED for me to reset! In channel properties there were 2 "Supported Devices", but none listed. Am I screwed or what? Do you have any idea why I can't "see" my devices in advanced settings? hey, I appreciate your help!!!!! Hal

budz posted 2008 Mar 09 12:55

It would be helpful if you posted what brand your dvd burner is. I suspect your drive could be a sata instead of a pata (ide). Is this a computer you built yourself or is a dell, hp, gateway or acer??????

Hal05154 posted 2008 Mar 09 13:39

Hey budz, thank you for the comeback! You are correct, I haven't been sitting around, I've actually still be working on the problem, and I DO believe I have a SATA drive. A Sony D21 in a Dell Inspiron to be exact. I am barking up the wrong tree here, aren't I? I"m guessing I do not have to worry about DMA, do I? In this light, any idea why my write speed plummeted? THANKS! Hal

budz posted 2008 Mar 09 14:07

Hal05154 : Hey budz, thank you for the comeback! You are correct, I haven't been sitting around, I've actually still be working on the problem, and I DO believe I have a SATA drive. A Sony D21 in a Dell Inspiron to be exact. I am barking up the wrong tree here, aren't I? I"m guessing I do not have to worry about DMA, do I? In this light, any idea why my write speed plummeted? THANKS! Hal What's the model number of your Dell Inspiron laptop? What brand of dvd media are you using? Use IMGBURN to burn dvd media. NERO is full of bugs. Are you surfing the net while you're burning dvd discs? It's always best to shutdown any programs running in the background while you burn discs and not to surf the net as well. DMA is for pata (ide) drives. Use IMGBURN to find out your model number of your laptop dvd burner.

Hal05154 posted 2008 Mar 09 14:58

budz : Hal05154 : Hey budz, thank you for the comeback! You are correct, I haven't been sitting around, I've actually still be working on the problem, and I DO believe I have a SATA drive. A Sony D21 in a Dell Inspiron to be exact. I am barking up the wrong tree here, aren't I? I"m guessing I do not have to worry about DMA, do I? In this light, any idea why my write speed plummeted? THANKS! Hal What's the model number of your Dell Inspiron laptop? What brand of dvd media are you using? Use IMGBURN to burn dvd media. NERO is full of bugs. Are you surfing the net while you're burning dvd discs? It's always best to shutdown any programs running in the background while you burn discs and not to surf the net as well. DMA is for pata (ide) drives. Use IMGBURN to find out your model number of your laptop dvd burner. Hey budz. I am an idiot. I have an Inspiron 531 desktop. I used Imgburn to burn that last dvd that took 15 hours to burn. It's NEVER taken that long since I got the new machine. My burner is a Sony D21-00. Usually I am doing nothing when a disc is burning. Any thoughts? THANKS!

boldego posted 2008 Mar 09 17:16

I think that Sony D21-00 is the media not the burner?

Hal05154 posted 2008 Mar 09 19:24

oops...! ACK! I TOLD you guys I was an idiot! HA! How about PBDS DVD +-RW-16W1s 2D14 (RAID) I always thought RAID had something to do with backups or something..... Thanks guys, Hal

budz posted 2008 Mar 09 19:59

: Usually I am doing nothing when a disc is burning. Do you disable programs like antivirus, spyware programs when burning? Even if you aren't doing anything when a disc is burning those types of programs can make a difference if they are not disabled. When using IMGBURN look to see what the model/make of your dvd burner is. I don't know much about Vista so I can't ask you to use other programs which could identify your internal dvd burner. For some reason I thought you had a inspirion laptop. D21 is the media id of the dvd disc you're using which is manufactured by SONY. Have you tried using VERBATIM dvd media? They are on sale at BEST BUY this week 50 pack spindle for $12.99 and you can use a online 10% off coupon as well.

boldego posted 2008 Mar 10 11:38

Any luck Hal ?

Willy5157 posted 2008 Mar 11 14:48

I have the same problem as hal05154. I have a dell inspiron 531 desktop with vista home basic. When I go into device manager I have 2 IDE channels. When I select properties and advanced settings there are no target ID's, no device type, and no current mode listed. How can I find out that info?

oldandinthe way posted 2008 Mar 11 16:58

How about calling Dell Tech Support. You paid for it when you bought your machine.

videobread posted 2008 Mar 11 17:06

My first thought was bad media. I have always associated slow burns with media. It will be interesting to see what the problem was.

Willy5157 posted 2008 Mar 11 17:13

Good point oldandintheway. I dread talking to someone from Bangalore. Talking to technical support is no fun, especially when you can't understand the language. Maybe I'll just live with it.

oldandinthe way posted 2008 Mar 11 17:16

Don;t live with it. Dell prices their equipment at higher levels than other manufacturers and underconfigures their standard configurations in order to make more of the purchase price available for support. If you do not insist on adequate service you are allowing yourself to be cheated. And some people actually get to support techs whose first language is American English. If you can;t communicate with tech ask for a supervisor, and if that is unhelpful ask for a manger. It does work. The fact that two Inspiron owners on this forum have the problem suggests Dell may have a fix.

oldandinthe way posted 2008 Mar 11 17:21

If you want to try something else - uninstall your IDE drivers, reboot and let the system reinstall them.

budz posted 2008 Mar 11 23:37

My suggestion would be to open up those DELL 531 desktops and see whether or not the dvd burners are SATA or PATA (IDE). The OP hasn't replied yet so we do not know if the dvd burner is SATA or PATA (IDE). Uninstalling the IDE DRIVERS will do nothing if the dvd burners are SATA. Willy5157 Please use IMGBURN to see what's the brand of your dvd burner. From that we can tell if it's a SATA or PATA dvd burner. :) :wink:

Willy5157 posted 2008 Mar 11 23:38

Sorry I wasted your time oldandintheway. There was also an NVIDIA nForce Serial ATA Controller listed. Not being a computer whiz, I thought that was for my video card. I checked the properties and saw my HDD on port0 and my DVD burner on port1. Both had DMA enabled. It must get annoying dealing with idiots.

ricky1756 posted 2008 Mar 12 09:15

"It must get annoying dealing with idiots. " Ask George Bush's wife that.

[_chef_] posted 2008 Mar 14 04:46

Willy5157 : Sorry I wasted your time oldandintheway. There was also an NVIDIA nForce Serial ATA Controller listed. Not being a computer whiz, I thought that was for my video card. I checked the properties and saw my HDD on port0 and my DVD burner on port1. Both had DMA enabled. It must get annoying dealing with idiots. Which mode??

Willy5157 posted 2008 Mar 20 23:29

I assume you mean if I am in safe mode or normal start-up. It was normal. I opened device manager and checked the properties.

Hal05154 posted 2008 Mar 22 12:43

Sorry for the delay getting back. LIfe got in the way.... I finally deleted my drives and let the system autoinstall them on reboot. Everything has worked fine ever since. I'm not entirely sure I had bad media, I'm still using the Sony and they haven't given me any trouble. THANKS! Hal

bk68 posted 2008 May 27 21:03

I had the same problem as HalO5154, so I followed along the thread and checked my DMA status only to see: Anyway, my IDE channels seem to be duplicated! I have two primary and two secondary IDE channels. (Plus under Human Interface Devices all of those are duplicated as well, Ive discovered. But not elsewhere.) Under the Properties of the first listed Primary and Secondary IDE channels Transfer Mode is listed as DMA IF Available but current Mode is listed as Not Applicable. The second entries for each say DMA If Available/Ultra DMA Mode 5. Do I just uninstall these entries and hope that fixes my sudden slowdown? Can anyone think of any reason there would be two Primary/Secondary channels? What about the INTEL Ultra ATA controller entry? Thanks!

[_chef_] posted 2008 May 29 04:02

Its about the crap intel drivers. Remove them, then restart.

bk68 posted 2008 May 29 12:36

Ok, they all just reappear after reboot. Except, now the second entries say Ultra DMA Mode 2 insteasd of Mode 5.

aedipuss posted 2008 May 29 12:42

if mode 5 can't be selected it could be a bad cable. mode 2 is the best a 40 wire cable can do, mode 5 needs 80 wire. a ground wire could be broken.

Bagheera posted 2008 Sep 05 22:32

I agree, check cables first. Always start with the cheapest item.

skaleton posted 2008 Sep 06 00:50

[_chef_] : Its about the crap intel drivers. Remove them, then restart. I have the same situation as bk68 with duplicate controllers and channels. Do you mean to remove all controllers, i.e. the 2 Intel controllers, the 2 primary channels and the 2 secondary channels? Is there a particular recommended brand for the cable?

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