Aside from being able to copy your vhs videos to dvd. I know with a tivo you can simply transfer the contents of your shows from the hard drive directly to your computer to author without any loss of quality. Does a dvd recorder produce better results at lower bitrates or something?? I am trying to understand their popularity still.
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Well mine can record to Hard Disk or DVD. It doesn't have the one click program guide of a Tivo, but to me the main advantage would have to be not paying that nasty monthly fee. It does, however, still have the 'commercial skip' key that I hear is lacking in the current Tivos.
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I am not aware what tivo is charging these days. Obviously if you bought into the lifetime plan you're in luck. But since most ppl have tivo anyway the cost is not an issue.
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As a general rule, Americans have no interest in archiving TV shows or VHS tapes, so DVD recorders are not popular in the USA. In fact, most of the manufacturers are abandoning the US market which has clearly said that it wants DVRs and little else.
With regards to Tivo, I don't have one but based on what I've read it's easy to transfer shows to your PC from it, but I think they are still copy protected and can't easily be burned to discs. I don't keep up with the subject so I don't know how difficult or easy it is to get those files in a non-DRMed state.
I know that many DVRs copy protect what they record and it's usually quite difficult to impossible to remove the DRM, depending on the model. -
Originally Posted by zanos
DVD recorder has no such fees, like a VCR. The resulting quality and bitrates aren't any better than contempary DVDs or TiVo.
Also, the tivo resolution is/was closer to computer resolution (640x480), whereas a DVD recorder uses the DVD standard (720x480). Most tivo customers and dvd recorder purchasers probably have no idea what that means. -
Originally Posted by tmw
Now I don't have a newer high def tivo. I imagine they techinically are capable of recording the transport stream in 1920x1080i or 1280x720p resolutions. However I don't know if TIVO encodes these in mp4 or something. But I also don't know if they have tweaked their analog tuner in the model to allow for higher resolutions than the series 2. You'd have to go to a dedicated tivo forum to find that out.Donatello - The Shredder? Michelangelo - Maybe all that hardware is for making coleslaw? -
With a recorder you can watch a dvd when you are recording. Also take a look at LiquidTv.
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I have two Series 2 TIVOs. Love them.
The max resolution you can get out of them (via transfer over the TIVO/PC network) is 544x480.
The reason for this is I chose to use the SVideo connector instead of the usual RF phono connectors.
I pay $12.95 a month fir my first and $6.95 for the second TIVO.
I feel it is worth it since I no longer have to pay for a weekly TV Guide subscription, and these TIVOs - every evening - update their channel guides for a max of a 2 week look ahead.Whatever doesn't kill me, merely ticks me off. (Never again a Sony consumer.) -
Originally Posted by jman98
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Originally Posted by zanos
than using editing software on a computer. But, much of this ease of use is due to Pioneers well designed
interface. I also have an Accurian (same as Lite-on) hard-drive DVD recorder and it takes almost twice as long
to edit a standard TV show due to the GOOFY poorly designed user interface. My buddy transfers Tivo files to
a computer for editing and burning, still takes him longer than my Accurian to produce an edited DVD. -
wabjxo (and anyone else interested):
My Series 2 TIVOs will continue to work on my DirecTV system. Even after the switchover to all digital come Feruary 2009.
It isn't absolutely necessary that I changeover from what I have - to hdtv compatible DirecTV receivers.Whatever doesn't kill me, merely ticks me off. (Never again a Sony consumer.) -
That's interesting so Tivo doesn't use the standard 720x480 resolution?? I'm surprised by this.
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As far as I know, most of the Series models will not function (unless manually) without the service.
The max resolution for series 2 is 544x480 (via the S-video port). otherwise it is 480x480.Whatever doesn't kill me, merely ticks me off. (Never again a Sony consumer.) -
In addition to using them for time-shifting, DVD recorders are useful if there are lots of family videos to transfer to DVD, and paying someone else to do it is not feasible. They are also useful if you frequently record things for friends or family members who can't record them for themselves for one reason or another. Transferring recordings from a TiVo may not be difficult, but recordings made directly to a DVD-R or DVD-RW are portable immediately upon finalization.
Originally Posted by lordsmurf
It's the people who archive their recordings that are a little unusual. I only started doing it a few years ago, and find I am doing it less now than I used to. (Mostly for cooking shows, because I am too cheap to buy the whole season on DVD for the sake of only a few recipes.) I have become far more selective about archiving TV series than I used to be, and rarely save a movie now. -
Originally Posted by painkiller
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I have a DVR with my satellite receiver and over half a dozen DVD recorders. I can't remember the last time I used the DVR but I use the DVD recorder all the time.
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Originally Posted by usually_quiet
Making your product look cheap is not a good strategy in my opinion. -
Tivo 'lifetime subscription' refers to your specific unit itself (not you) & only as long as they don't change units.
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When I tranfer VHS tapes to DVD, my JVC improves the quality of the recording noticeably.
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I am looking at getting a DVR or TiVo to record cable tv. Is there anyway to get a DVR to do one click record from an on screen schedule like TiVo? I currently use my computer, capture card and TitanTV to schedule recordings.
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Originally Posted by winifreid
There is one non-DVD DVR made strictly for use with an antenna and does one-touch recording, the DTVPal DVR. It's being sold now, but the first ones won't be ready for delivery until next month. It can use digital TVGOS or a guide generated from PSIP. Nothing like it for cable yet.
The only HDD DVDRs left in the US market use timers. There used to be some HDD DVDRs soild in the US that employed analog TVGOS and allowed one-click recording, but analog TVGOS is about to disappear, and nobody has made one yet that uses digital TVGOS. -
Originally Posted by usually_quiet
Not so. TVGOS is going to continue after Feb 2009. Says so on their website. -
Originally Posted by handyguy
Never mind it's at http://www.macrovision.com/dtv/10053.htm?link_id=rightPromo
I have not heard anything about analog TVGOS being available OTA as it is now, only digital, which is incompatible with the existing analog devices. The information on the link confirms this, and the DTVPal apparently is not the solution people hoped it would be. Most have been unable to get it to work. Those with analog cable or satellite service may or may not be OK. It all depends on what their provider chooses to do. -
If you just have antenna, you'd have a converter box in Feb. That box has it's own style TVGOS.....
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If somebody is only using a CECB to watch TV, then maybe the guide they generate is sufficient. Recording devices are a different story. The DTVPal converter box was supposed to be able to supply a substitute analog TVGOS (converted from the digital TVGOS) to recording devices that need one for one-touch recording, so they could continue to operate as usual. However, it doesn't seem to work for most people in the real world. (See the DTVPal threads in the AVS forums.) None of the other CECBs even claim to do it.
That being said, all the coupon eligible converter boxes generate their guide from the PSIP data in digital broadcasts. At this time, none (not even the DTVPal), are using digital TVGOS to generate their guide. I use a CECB daily. and I can attest to the fact that the PSIP data available for some of them is always very limited, and for the rest of them, it is very limited at times. (It only lists "DTV Program")
The quality of the guide that converter boxes provide varies greatly. Some only provide a now-next guide for the channel they are tuned to. The DTVPal, which I own, has the best guide, that lists all the channels it receives. It is capable of storing several days worth of information, but I only have about 12 hours worth available most of the time, at best. The DTVPal's guide is the closest to an actual TVGOS/Guide Plus+ screen, but having seen both, I find that they are definitely not the same.
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