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Verbatim DVD-R White Inkjet Surface Resists Sharpie Markers? | ||
| orsetto posted 2009 Jul 03 13:01 | ||
| Anyone else have this problem? Until recently, I bought only silver-top TYs and Verbatims. But this week I got a good deal on a couple hundred Verbatim DataLife 8x DVD-R with white printable surface. Unlike the white surface on most printable CD-Rs, this Verbatim surface is not matte but kind of "pearly", and it completely resists being written on with a Sharpie permanent marker. If I can't write on the damn things I can't use them :( . Any suggestions for a marker pen with good "traction" on pearly disc coatings? | ||
| lordsmurf posted 2009 Jul 03 13:10 | ||
| Inkjet media are made to absorb ink, so it will actually suck the ink from the tip of a marker before it can refill itself, making writing harder than not. It really varies from batch to batch (remember that a true "batch" is hundreds of thousands of discs minimum). A few months ago, or in a few months from now, the surface may not be quite so quick to suck in the ink. | ||
| minidv2dvd posted 2009 Jul 03 13:11 | ||
| check the label. are they thermal disc printable? | ||
| orsetto posted 2009 Jul 03 13:38 | ||
| Standard "Verbatim" label on the side of the cakebox reads "DataLife Plus Inkjet Printable DVD-R, Part No. 94854". LordSmurfs explanation makes sense, but I don't understand why I've never had this problem with any other "inkjet printable" surface? These Verbs don't seem to suck the ink too fast, its more like the pen can't get the ink down onto the surface at all. I've had similar problems with generic Sony media (the ordinary kind), but not to this degree. Weird. | ||
| minidv2dvd posted 2009 Jul 03 13:46 | ||
| that is strange, i've not come across any discs that a sharpie couldn't write on. for inkjet printables i use taiyo yudens, sharpies work fine on them. it almost sounds like someone sprayed them with waterproofing lacquer. | ||
| lordsmurf posted 2009 Jul 03 13:51 | ||
| Sony and Ritek inkjet can be just as bad.
Try to use an ULTRA FINE tip marker, those do better than EXTRA FINE tip Sharpies. It's the way the tip is designed. | ||
| minidv2dvd posted 2009 Jul 03 13:52 | ||
is it that they need the ink to be heated like it would be out of an inkjet printer? | ||
| lordsmurf posted 2009 Jul 03 13:56 | ||
| Honestly, all you need for writing on inkjet media is a free-flow ink of some kind. Many of the ULTRA FINE tips are good.
I sometimes use gel-tip or ball-points, but you must be very light with it. Most people press down when they write, so they should not attempt this, they'll just screw up their discs. But fellow artists out there, especially inkers or colorists, you probably know how to be very gentle with pressure, just enough to write, but not enough to indent. If you're not a skilled or experienced artist, I warn you now, don't try to use "pens". You'll need to stick to markers. I've never really said this before in public, and I hesitate to do it now, because I can already see the flood of idiots with "I wrote on my disc with a pen and now its bad" posts, because they skimmed what I wrote. | ||
| Clay201 posted 2009 Oct 30 19:54 | ||
| "If you're not a skilled or experienced artist, I warn you now, don't try to use "pens". You'll need to stick to markers. "
Yeah, because only artists could possibly learn to use less pressure when writing on certain surfaces. Similarly, only professional valets should attempt to park cars and only trained athletes should jump off diving boards. Oh, and the cost. I mean, good god, if someone should ruin their disc, they could be out 15, 20, maybe even 30 cents. It's a good thing you warned us. | ||
| Noahtuck posted 2009 Oct 30 20:06 | ||
So let me get this straight..... After 2 years of not posting you dug this old thread up just to flap your trap :shock: :lol: :lol: | ||
| orsetto posted 2009 Oct 30 20:44 | ||
| Since someone reactivated this thread, I may as well take the opportunity to mention I finally found a solution to my problem with "marker-resistant" Verbatim inkjet surfaces. While my usual Sharpie fine point won't write on these, I discovered the big fat Sharpie Chisel Tip works perfectly. If I hold it at an angle, the tip emulates the fine point. Its more difficult to write smaller with, but its close enough. The chisel tip design seems to have a stronger ink flow. | ||
| jagabo posted 2009 Oct 30 20:44 | ||
| There are water/alcohol based makers and there are organic solvent based markers. The former will write on hydryphilic surfaces, the latter on hydrophobic surfaces. Sharpies are alcohol based. So find some organic solvent based permanent marker. You can tell by the smell. | ||
| stiltman posted 2009 Oct 30 23:49 | ||
| I can see it now, jagabo in the isle at Wallyworld open packages of permanent markers and sniffing them..... :lol: :lol: :lol: | ||
| Clay201 posted 2009 Oct 31 00:07 | ||
| "After 2 years of not posting you dug this old thread up just to flap your trap"
I dug up this thread googling for a solution to the Verbatim/Sharpie problem. I'm going to give the organic solvent based markers a shot. If that doesn't work, I'll try the chisel tip. Thanks, jagabo and orsetto. |
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