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Verbatim 16X DVD+R still good? | ||||
| d3xter posted 2009 May 05 17:26 | ||||
| Hi everyone,
Newegg has a sale on Verbatim 4.7GB 16X DVD+R 100 pack. I'm planning on getting them but I saw a recent review
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| Number Six posted 2009 May 05 17:36 | ||||
| I use these discs and never had a problem or bad burn. | ||||
| bmo posted 2009 May 05 17:44 | ||||
| This issue has been discussed and debated many times over. For example check this forum discussion...http://www.videohelp.com/forum/archive/verbatim-dvd-r-100-pack-sp ... 51029.html
In the end it all comes down to myth. Perhaps this "reviewer" has a bad DVD burner, or uses bad software. Any number of things could affect the quality of his burns. However, in all honesty if the opinions of ONE person who had a bad experience with a product scare you into not buying said product, you shouldn't buy anything at all because I can guarantee you that there's at least one person who's had a problem with anything released into the consumer market since forever. I don't mean to come off as rude but we are talking about products that are mass produced, so maybe he just got a bad batch. The fact is, Verbatim is one of THE best disc manufacturers out there. Like you said, you've been using their discs for years and haven't had any problems and I, as well as many others, can say the same thing. :) | ||||
| d3xter posted 2009 May 05 18:13 | ||||
I didn't hear this from just one person. But anyways I probably will buy them. Thanks for the replies. | ||||
| jman98 posted 2009 May 05 18:14 | ||||
| Many people are highly prejudiced against Verbatim's Made in India media. You'll just have to make up your own mind here. I can only state the following.
Never used Verbatim MII single layer discs. I have used their MII dual layer discs. I had one bad burn in the pack. Others swear that the MII DL media is 100% crap, etc. That has not been my experience. Verbatim has moved some of their dual layer manufacturing back to Singapore, possibly because of quality issues. We have never had many reports here of problems with single layer MII discs. If you are really afraid of them, many sources like Rima.com, SuperMediaStore, etc. sell Verbatim's DataLifePlus discs. You'll pay more for them and they only burn up to 8x, but they are all Made In Taiwan and are first rate. | ||||
| orsetto posted 2009 May 05 18:19 | ||||
No, in the end it comes down to people asking vague questions on forums. :wink: d3xter, the question is meaningless without complete background information. Are you using a DVD recorder? If so, does it prefer +R or just tolerate +R? Is it a brand new Phillips or a five year old Panasonic? Does it record in real time or off an internal hard drive first? Are you using a computer burner? New? Old? Mac slotload or standard PC trayload? Do you buy your media in small batches, or are you sitting on hundreds of the discs that have "always worked for you"? Any combination of those variables will interact with a particular brand or type of media you pick up in a store right now. Some batches of some brands from some countries suck overall, or have issues burning in some types of hardware. The biggest "myth" going is that Verbatim is exactly what it used to be- it isn't (nothing is). When they owned and operated their own factories under their own name, Verbatim media did have an edge, it was equal to or better than Taiyo Yuden (the only other really reliable brand left). Unfortunately a couple years ago Verbatim went down the same cost-cutting road as every other brand before them: they sold their branding rights to a lame-ass conglomerate which makes millions of discs under two dozen different brand and store names. Is Verbatim still a better bet than, say, TDK or Maxell? Yes- that big media conglomerate does want to keep the Verbatim reputation as high as it can, so it does pay a bit more attention to its Verbatim production lines. But crappy batches come and go, and the baseline formula is as dicey on old burners as TDK, Maxell or Staples brand media. If you have new-ish hardware, Verbatim should still work fine for you, as will several other brands. If you have old hardware, you may eventually need to look for 8x or "pro"- grade discs sold by media specialists online. Until you start getting an unusual number of coasters, stick with what you've been using if it works well for you. | ||||
| bmo posted 2009 May 05 18:25 | ||||
Again, sorry if I came off as rude, it's just that from your original post it was worded like that one guy's review was the only basis for your dilemma. But it's good you've made up your mind. I love Newegg and that's a good deal on the Verbatim discs, so I may be picking up a spindle or two myself :D
Lol exactly! | ||||
| DereX888 posted 2009 May 05 20:29 | ||||
| Once a company start producing discs in India (CMC) I no longer trust them.
FWIW, for few years I am using only TY discs if possible (sometimes get overpriced TDKs when TY is not on the shelve), because TY are still manufactured in Japan, and this company haven't jumped ship to outsourcing in 3rd world countries like Verbatim. If I have no choice, I rather get unknown brand discs clearly labeled as made in Taiwan rather than Verbatims that bear no country of origin on the label (yes, last time I bought Verbatims they were identified with CMC ID, which means they were manufactured in India, it was the last straw to me and I quit using Verbatims since). BTW - I have nothing against people in India, its their techn/workmanship that is years behind developed countries, that's all. I rather pay 5-6 cents more per disc and stay 100% worry-free. | ||||
| jagabo posted 2009 May 05 22:57 | ||||
| I have no trouble with Verbatim DVD+R 16x inkjet printable discs. Made in Taiwan. MCC 004. Bought from Sam's Club. | ||||
| lordsmurf posted 2009 May 06 07:49 | ||||
| I rarely see MII discs, most everything available in the USA is from Taiwan. Microcenter, Newegg, Best Buy, OfficeMax -- I don't see a lot of MII lately. And even when I do find MII, and buy it on purpose, it's fine. In fact, I had a spindle of MIT with more coasters than the MII package.
Some of MBI's own media has been decent, in fact. I can't say I understand what orsetto is talking about. Mitsubishi still oversees production of it's own media, regardless of location. Their own Verbatim brand hasn't been farmed out to anybody, unlike Kodak or JVC. And older burners are fine with excellent media -- it's one reason it is considered excellent. Having to buy new burners for mediocre CMC/Ritek discs -- which still don't burn all that hot -- is ridiculous. | ||||
| pepegot1 posted 2009 May 06 08:51 | ||||
| Just finish a cake of 100 verbatim DVD+R's, from India, and no problems at all. | ||||
| samijubal posted 2009 May 06 11:26 | ||||
| I haven't had any problems with the MII discs. I've used them in PC burners and standalone recorders both. | ||||
| orsetto posted 2009 May 06 11:51 | ||||
Technically, in documents, no. Practically, in how the discs are actually produced? In essence, its farmed out. It was dumped to ProDisc and CMC, ProDisc went under leaving CMC as the largest producer of current Verbatim. The concept of "Mitsubishi overseeing production" is about as helpful to quality control as "New York State Assembly Oversees Transit System": accomplishes nothing. A couple of MCC stooges and technicians sitting around the CMC crap factories wagging their fingers and making suggestions does not deflect CMC from doing whatever they want to do to meet OfficeMax price points. Just like when Mercedes sent German tooling and technicians to Detroit, and Chrysler still made crummy cars with it. This is not to say there aren't still some advantages to mass-market 16x Verbatim: there are. CMC is using a lot of MCC production machinery and does have the MCC techs around to supervise: while this is in no way equal to the direct MCC production back in 2005, its better than nothing and way better than CMCs rancid TDK output. If your burners or recorders have no problem with retail 16x Verbatim, then theres no reason to stop using it. But if you have older burners, and they do start failing with retail Verbatims, don't start buying spindle after spindle looking for a "good batch"- it means you need to throttle back to 8x media for those old burners. They were not designed for 16x, they burn it as a kludge, and eventually the 16x stresses their lasers to the point they can't burn it anymore. That includes the Verbatim: "good" 16x is still 16x. Even Phillips/Magnavox/Funai is currently advising new recorder owners to use 8x whenever possible, due to increasing consumer complaints of 16x burn failures. | ||||
| LCSHG posted 2009 May 10 21:44 | ||||
| Some users don’t Like Ritek/Ridata and some other disks and that’s ok
I had used Verbatim Disks fo a long time I now have used a large number of Ridata disks bought at Neweg at a good price and free shipping [Both + or - I have had No problems and cannot see any difference in video quality. While I don’t use CMC on the few occasions I have also No problems It seems that to many users blame a operator error or poor equipment on the disks | ||||
| lordsmurf posted 2009 May 11 12:06 | ||||
| Aside from Meritline.com and Supermediastore.com, I don't even know of a lot of places off-hand that carry 8x discs, certainly not stores I can walk into. | ||||
| DereX888 posted 2009 May 11 13:24 | ||||
| BTW:
Ask yourself what is the reason a manufacturer or a brand would like to hide place of manufacturing from your knowledge? I think if you use brain there is no need to answer this :) That's why you see some media clearly (and proudly I'd add) are labeled as Made in Japan or Taiwan, while others hide it behind just i.e. "Verbatim" brand. If Made in India are really as good as Made in Japan, why hide this fact... | ||||
| LCSHG posted 2009 May 11 18:54 | ||||
| Lordsmurf said
“Aside from Meritline.com and Supermediastore.com, I don't even know of a lot of places off-hand that carry 8x discs, certainly not stores I can walk into’. I fully agree Where Made !!! I don’t think its hidden as you could check them if not on the label. why not put it on the item label but than some would not buy them and are they bum ? I think not At least my recorder feels there Ok Oh I didn’t before because the recorder felt they were OK But the Ridata disks I mentioned. Say’s right on the Label [Made In Taiwan] And so do the Verbatim. What a relief I have some 600 disks That Are OK [Made In Taiwan] and now I woun’t have to throw them away and feel bad . | ||||
| DereX888 posted 2009 May 11 20:08 | ||||
No. Almost always when they are made in India it will NOT be posted on the label. Instead you have i.e. "Imported by SuperDuper Corporation www.we.want.your.bucks.fck.you" Or not even such cryptic info at all. You gotta be blind not to notice this [mal]practice before :shock: | ||||
| usually_quiet posted 2009 May 11 22:51 | ||||
| In the US, the country of origin must be included on the label, by law, if it's an imported product. I have purchased both MII and MIT Verbatim DVD-R 16X media in the new packaging. The country of origin is on the label, in English, French and Spanish, though it (as well as the usual warnings and legal notices) is in teeny, tiny print. The manufacturing country is under the bar code, below the recycling symbols.
I don't doubt that some people are experiencing problems, but not everyone is. I don't use +R media, but I didn't have any coasters among the 50 MII Verbatim DVD-R discs I burned. My LG burner was made in 2005, so there is some backwards compatibility with the new media. | ||||
| LCSHG posted 2009 May 12 00:34 | ||||
| Derex888
Almost that you used is the Key Word I see a lot of posts with maybe, almost ,it might work etc,etc. Your Quote “You gotta be blind not to notice this [mal]practice before” ----------------------------------------------------------- At 80 my eyes are not what they used to be but not all that bad. I think the real reason is all these disks have worked fine I’ve had NO problems and I don’t care were they were made A guy I know wouldn’t Buy any drugs, but from a USA druggist. $295 for 30 day supply right on the box [Made in India] Another bought the [very same name drugs] from Canada $!95 for a 90 day supply..Right on the box [Made in India]. He ain’t dead yet | ||||
| samijubal posted 2009 May 13 12:12 | ||||
| Newegg has these for $13.60/100 AR. I think that's the cheapest I've ever seen them.
Use coupon code BHD5139. | ||||
| handyguy posted 2009 May 13 12:42 | ||||
Yes, with free shipping. | ||||
| samijubal posted 2009 May 13 14:34 | ||||
| I think that 10% off code is only good today. | ||||
| zoobie posted 2009 May 13 18:28 | ||||
| I'll think about it...mail-in rebates kinda blow and may never show up... | ||||
| zoobie posted 2009 May 13 21:56 | ||||
| I thought about it and used the coupon code BHD5139
I'm used to using the DVD-R Thx | ||||
| samijubal posted 2009 May 13 23:15 | ||||
| I usually use the -Rs too. When I can get a deal like this I buy +Rs though.
I've never had a problem with a Verbatim rebate. They usually come fast, around a month. | ||||
| DereX888 posted 2009 May 14 01:55 | ||||
What is your point? I would think that at your respectable age you would have already know that there is nothing certain in the world, ever, hence me using word like "almost" means as close as possible to certainty. If I have said 'every undescribed country of origin means Made in India" I would have know myself it's a lie. I said "ALMOST every..." because that's how it is: almost every one of them, but NOT all. What the hell you wanted me to write differently? Or are you just picking on word "almost" because you have nothing else to say? (me thinks) And I won't say what I really think about your comparisons of DRUGS (medicine) to BLANK DISCS, instead I'm asking: are you really 80 years old? Somehow I don't believe it... but anyways, whatever your age is, FYI: "drugs" is a tightly controlled and regulated market. Even the silliest cheapest prescription drugs - regardless was it Made in USA or Made in India - all must pass FDA's long approval procedures that CHECK FOR QUALITY AND CONSISTENCY OF SUCH PRODUCT (among many other factors, like safety) before it can be even announced on US market. Do you know something I don't about any government agencies regulating and checking Blank Media safety and quality??? Lastly, I don't doubt you've had many good burns with Made in India discs. I had too. But when fail burns happened - it never happened with Made in Japan blanks (unless it was hardware failure), it happened almost exclusively with blanks Made in India. Can you see the difference now? If you really are 80 year old, please take care of yourself. There aren't many people of your age actively using internet (if at all), certainly you can be proud of yourself. Even if we disagree - keep it up :) I bow my hat. Respect, Old Man. | ||||
| usually_quiet posted 2009 May 14 16:35 | ||||
| Though labeling requirements in the USA vary somewhat depending on the product, generally speaking, the manufacturing process for a product must be completed in the USA for it to be sold here with no country of origin on the label.
The Federal Trade Commission provides this explanation at http://www.ftc.gov/os/1997/12/epsmadeusa.htm : 'Where Customs determines that a good is not of foreign origin (i.e., the good undergoes its last substantial transformation in the United States), there is generally no requirement that it be marked with any country of origin. For most goods, neither the Customs Service nor the FTC requires that goods made partially or wholly in the United States be labeled with "Made in USA" or any other indication of U.S. origin.(6) The fact that a product is not required to be marked with a foreign country of origin does not mean that it is permissible to promote that product as "Made in USA." The FTC will consider additional factors, beyond those considered by the Customs Service in determining whether a product is of foreign origin, in determining whether a product may properly be represented as "Made in USA."' So, if a distributor is labeling his products in compliance with US regulations, no country of origin on the label means it was at least partially made in the USA, and possibly entirely made in the USA. [Edit] If we are talking about bulk Verbatim DVDs sold by an online retailer, they need to put something on the label indicating they were imported from somewhere. If they are selling DVDs from both Taiwan and India, they might still be able to get away with labeling them generically as "Made in Taiwan or India" but I don't think it is legal for them to say nothing at all about where they were made. | ||||
| DereX888 posted 2009 May 14 22:23 | ||||
| Yes, they buy them bulk abroad (India, Taiwan, China) and pack them in cakes or spindles domestically in USA.
So you get the shrink wrap and the spindle itself Made in USA, whilst blanks are still from abroad - and no country of origin on the label (but "Imported by ThisCorporation.com" instead). Next time I go buy blanks I'll take few pictures of the labels without country of origin :) | ||||
| zoobie posted 2009 May 14 23:09 | ||||
| Newegg sold out of Verbatim 4.7GB 16X DVD+R 100 Packs with their recent sale that included free shipping, 10% discount, and $8 mail-in rebate
There are over 400 reviews of these discs at Newegg I just hand them out free anyway...What's 13.6 cents between friends? | ||||
| usually_quiet posted 2009 May 15 00:02 | ||||
Tp be certain I searched the U.S. Customs Service and found this publication: http://www.cbp.gov/linkhandler/cgov/newsroom/publications/trade/c ... rkingo.doc It says specifically that with few exceptions, items must be labeled so the ultimate purchaser in the United States is aware of the country in which an imported article was made. I suppose if you wanted to, you could turn them in to the Customs Service, but I'm not sure that would truly benefit their customers. What are the chances that someone buying bulk Verbatim DVDs from them would not know by now that they could be getting discs from India not Taiwan? | ||||
| DereX888 posted 2009 May 15 00:18 | ||||
| As always with corporations, I sense swindle intent :)
I may be wrong, but I think if country of origin is not stated on the label most of people would think it was domestically made. If they would have put large MADE IN INDIA on a spindle of blanks I bet it would sell much worse than same blanks without it. Hiding it behind a non-descript like "Imported by ..." is a psychological attempt to fool at least some customers. /edit OT I was chatting on irc with a buddy from Spain and made him angry ;) OT, but related to previous posts. He bought 4GB DDR3 chips today - described as Made in EU. To me it is fake. First, "Made in EU" means made nowhere, as there is no such country. And second, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm almost sure there are no RAM factories in any european countries. They're all in Asia (China, Taiwan and Singapore or Malaysia or India - and one of them burnt not long ago IIRC). | ||||
| dutchdummy posted 2009 May 15 02:08 | ||||
The first time I bought a spindle of MII Verbatim DL, I'd already gone through many MIS discs with no problem. That MII spindle gave me a 30% coaster rate. I went back to MIS and everything's been fine since. Maybe there was a quality control issue in the beginning and that the MII discs are now fine, but I'm in no hurry to try it again. | ||||
| lordsmurf posted 2009 May 15 08:55 | ||||
I'm sorry, no, the packaging does not count, only the product manufactured. Feel free to photo your label. It might be possible you're buying from an illegal or "gray market" importer, selling media in USA destined for other locales. | ||||
| samijubal posted 2009 May 15 17:45 | ||||
| I got my discs from Newegg today, they are MIT. | ||||
| usually_quiet posted 2009 May 15 18:49 | ||||
Which DVD disc type did you buy that had a CMC media code? I heard that CMC (among others) made discs for a Verbatim product line called "Pearl White" sold in Europe, but I don't recall seeing them for sale in the US. I'm starting to wonder if LS is right and there is more than a country of origin labeling issue with these discs. I have purchased only retail cake boxes of Verbatim DVD-R 16X for the past 3 years. The media code has always been MCC 03RG20. It's the same for both the MIT media from 3 years ago and MII media from 4 months ago. | ||||
| Number Six posted 2009 May 15 19:05 | ||||
| I have been using MII 16X DVD+R 50 Pack Spindle (copyright 2004), and the code is MCC004 - never a bad burn. I bought these at BESTBUY. I also have a 100 Pack Spindle (copyright 2007) that I bought at BUY.com that are MIT - I have not opened these yet because I have a lot of the other discs left, so I never checked the code. | ||||
| orsetto posted 2009 May 15 19:51 | ||||
| CMC is pretty much the sole remaining OEM mfr for single-layer Verbatim worldwide. Presumably most of the discs intended for sale under the Verbatim brand have the marginally better MCC supervision and use the MCC codes, but it wouldn't surprise me if Verbatim and CMC have a more "relaxed" arrangement for certain countries where Verbatim really doesn't care if CMC just packs the spindles with the ordinary CMC discs made for TDK and everyone else. Parallel imports could explain getting a spindle of these. Either that, or we're nearing endgame for the last remaining shred of MCC stake in Verbatim: perhaps to shave costs and increase margin they're giving up all pretense of having a separate "non-CMC" production line. If the CMC code starts cropping up in spindles clearly sold thru official USA distributors, we'll know for sure one way or the other. With Verbatims now being blown out during weekend superstore sales at prices lower than the gruesome TDK junk, I don't see how they can afford the expense of the MCC "quality" staff and procedures for much longer. $13.99 for a 50-pak spindle is bottom feeder territory. | ||||
| lordsmurf posted 2009 May 15 21:17 | ||||
| A lot of this speculation is stupid.
Some idiot will read it, spout it as fact on another site, and another dumbass media myth will henceforth be born. I've seen this over and over and over (and over and over and over!) again for years now. Enough. | ||||
| Number Six posted 2009 May 15 21:25 | ||||
| lordsmurf - Wasn't this same argument going on years ago about buying only MADE IN JAPAN, and MADE IN TAIWAN was junk. When I started with recordable DVD media in 2004, the best was supposedly RICOHJPN media. | ||||
| orsetto posted 2009 May 15 22:05 | ||||
| What myth? The Verbatim PR dept is all over the place answering these questions directly. They have specifically stated post-2006 SL media was made by ProDisc and CMC until ProDisc folded, now its all CMC. They have specifically admitted some batches of discs, + and -, are not as compatible as their old media. Are they addressing it with CMC? Yes, they try to. Are they being deceptive? Not at all: media is much more cut-throat than it used to be, Verbatim is trying to stay ahead of the curve of generic media but its difficult to do at current ridiculously lowball prices. You want media to sell at $10.99 with a coupon? Then don't expect the same exact Verbatims you got for $30 in 2005. Thats all there is to it.
The country of origin thing is important in one way, and meaningless in another. For certain periods of time, as production moves to different regions, you might see a slip compared to older factories but eventually they all balance out or vary. You can't predict. The "myth" is that nothing ever changes, thats the real bullshit being thrown around here. LS is "sick of hearing about it"? Well, we're "sick of dealing with it". Those of us who've been bitten in the ass by retail Verbs are not inept dimwits using six year old hardware: I've got new recorders and old, I use ImgBurn on the PC with current burners. Media quality now goes from spindle to spindle, theres no guarantee of anything. Buy it in a bricks and mortar superstore, its a gamble, I don't care what the hell brand it is. The closest you can get to a guarantee is buying 8x "pro-grade" or "DataLife" Verbatims from online media specialists, or the Taiyo Yuden 8x Japanese stuff. (Yeah, I know LS: supposedly "some people" can't burn or play TY, but I believe that like you believe I can't burn store-bought Verbs if my life depended on it.) Its a grey area no matter what the brand, and varies from USA to Europe to Asia. Anyone who insists that its black and white or cut and dried must be very lucky. Even the sainted TY media has been knocked off or bait and switched by unscrupulous dealers, and the TY 16x is about as randomly bad as anyone elses's 16x. DVD media is following the same path as CD media: and you have a better shot at winning the lottery than finding good CD media. | ||||
| wtsinnc posted 2009 May 15 23:23 | ||||
| My last 300 blanks have all been MIT DVD+Rs and I couldn't be happier !
To-date with about 30 remaining, one failure. I'm burning mainly with an LG GSA-H42N but I also have recently used a Samsung SH-S202G and an LG GSA-H10N. No playback problems either; compatibility has been exceptional. 200 were bought from Newegg, 100 from MegaMediaMall. | ||||
| usually_quiet posted 2009 May 16 10:23 | ||||
| I decided to do some more Googling to find out what relationship exists between CMC and Verbatim. I saw some posts from at cdfreaks.com reporting that CMC has been producing Verbatim MIT discs, marked with MCC media codes, and using Verbatim's advanced AZO dyes, for the past 3 or 4 years.
There is supposed to be a way to determine which company actually made the discs from the serial number on the hub. Those starting with "MAP6" were reportedly made by CMC. My discs from 2006 bear those markings. Since I have apparently been been using CMC-made discs for three years now with no problems, I'm not going to worry, as long as they are made to MCC's standards. I also saw that MBI manufactured at least some of Verbatim's MII discs, but the ones I have were marked with MCC media codes, and used Verbatim's advanced AZO dyes, just like the Verbatim's Taiwan-made CMC discs. Until I have a problem, I see no reason to switch to Taiyo Yuden. Since I have never tried any of their DVD-R discs, I have no assurance that they will burn as well as Verbatim, plus they are less convenient to buy and more expensive. | ||||
| zoobie posted 2009 May 16 23:46 | ||||
| true...you can't buy TY in any B&M store
until there's a problem with verbatim, I'm afraid I just don't see one | ||||
| samijubal posted 2009 May 17 01:24 | ||||
| I've had just as good luck with Verbatim as TY, better than the value TYs even. With Verbatims far cheaper price, I always get them with a rebate or a great sale price, and their better spindles, I store the discs on the spindles and hate TY spindles, I'll stick with Verbatim until I have problems with them which hasn't happened yet, MITs or MIIs. | ||||
| LCSHG posted 2009 May 17 17:22 | ||||
| I try to check Newegg and the free shipping. Sometimes I catch a good one
Some 4-5 months ago they had free shipping Verbatim +/- disks [100pack] for $15,99 [24.99 reg and AR, but Only 1 Pack [sent in the rebate] Last month a better deal same disks & pack $13.99 [reg 22.99AR I bought them and sent in the rebate. A reply came [Sorry you have already used your rebate Thank you for your purchase] I t seeme that it's a Newegg sponcered rebate. I would have thought they would have forgotten after 5 months Newegg would have taken them back but it would have cost 8.50 so I kept them. I feel Newegg is a good place to buy at a reasonable price, free shipping and follow through as promised Verbatim Is A Good Disk I can see why a user will stay with them.pr any disk that has worked for them I now use a good number of RiData disks As a matter of fact I have used many different disks and since replacing my 12 DVD recorders burners with PC units [some 21/2 years ago] I have had NO Problems with any disk including +/- RW | ||||
| Number Six posted 2009 May 17 18:10 | ||||
| Rebates are usually for a limited number of purchases during a sale, but only for that sale period. A new sale should qualify for a completely different rebate. | ||||
| samijubal posted 2009 May 17 21:19 | ||||
| Yes, I've bought Verbatims from 2 or 3 different places or different disc types, +R, -R at the same time, as long as the rebate number is different they are valid and I get them.
The only time I ever had a problem was when Meritline sent a 100 pack that was supposed to be two 50 packs, that's what I ordered and what the rebate was for. I got something in the mail saying wrong product, I called the rebate center and they said they would send the rebate anyway. | ||||
| zoobie posted 2009 May 19 18:00 | ||||
| I just received my newegg sale order of Verbatim 4.7GB 16X DVD+R 100 Pack after 6 long days...
They're MIT if it makes any difference... | ||||
| terryj posted 2009 May 27 18:54 | ||||
| I ordered a 100 pack spindle of the DVD+R's in the first sale, as well as filled out the rebate. By the time I got through the spindle, about two and a half weeks,
I got the rebate check ( 19th May). Three coasters out of the pack, and I called Verbatim who sent me replacements as they always do. The Spindle: MII. The Replacements: MIT.( single jewel case discs) The three coasters were due to "disc unreadable" errors in my DVD Recorders. (Magnavox MWR-106D) The other 97 discs did absolutely swell.... I plan on buying another set as they are on sale again I see, with another Mail in Rebate. My 02¢. | ||||
| zoobie posted 2009 Jul 24 14:38 | ||||
| I never got my rebate...just a notice they were processing it 3 weeks ago | ||||
| jagabo posted 2009 Jul 24 16:20 | ||||
| Rebates usually take 2 to 3 months. | ||||
| zoobie posted 2009 Jul 24 17:05 | ||||
| the wife just brought it in...I knew this would work :) | ||||
| ROBERT BLACK posted 2009 Aug 21 00:50 | ||||
| Okay here's what I keep getting with the latest batch of +R Verbatim Made in India discs. I've also tried burning with Nero,GBurner, and DVDDeCrypter which is the same as Imgburn. SAME results about every third disc, they won't finalize. My burner has zero problems with 8x DVD-R Verbatim made in Taiwan discs and a small batch of left over Maxell/Riteks +R x16 discs. Those finalize,verify and even play fine. I've NEVER had bad Verbatims EVER until this batch.
I 18:14:01 ImgBurn Version 2.4.4.0 started! I 18:14:01 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 18:14:01 Total Physical Memory: 1,047,344 KB - Available: 642,392 KB I 18:14:01 Initialising SPTI... I 18:14:01 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 18:14:01 Found 1 CD-RW and 1 DVD±RW! I 18:14:16 Operation Started! I 18:14:16 Corrected conflicting settings for DVD Video disc. I 18:14:16 Building Image Tree... I 18:14:16 Checking Directory Depth... I 18:14:16 Calculating Totals... I 18:14:16 Preparing Image... I 18:14:16 Checking Path Length... I 18:14:16 Contents: 9 Files, 2 Folders I 18:14:16 Content Type: DVD Video I 18:14:16 File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 18:14:16 Volume Label: [Not Configured] I 18:14:16 IFO/BUP 32K Padding: Enabled I 18:14:16 Region Code: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 I 18:14:16 TV System: NTSC I 18:14:16 Size: 4,601,321,472 bytes I 18:14:16 Sectors: 2,246,739 I 18:14:16 Image Size: 4,601,937,920 bytes I 18:14:16 Image Sectors: 2,247,040 I 18:14:16 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00 I 18:15:16 Operation Started! I 18:15:16 Corrected conflicting settings for DVD Video disc. I 18:15:16 Building Image Tree... I 18:15:16 Checking Directory Depth... I 18:15:16 Calculating Totals... I 18:15:16 Preparing Image... I 18:15:16 Checking Path Length... I 18:15:16 Contents: 9 Files, 2 Folders I 18:15:16 Content Type: DVD Video I 18:15:16 File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 18:15:16 Volume Label: DVD I 18:15:16 IFO/BUP 32K Padding: Enabled I 18:15:16 Region Code: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 I 18:15:16 TV System: NTSC I 18:15:16 Size: 4,601,321,472 bytes I 18:15:16 Sectors: 2,246,739 I 18:15:16 Image Size: 4,601,937,920 bytes I 18:15:16 Image Sectors: 2,247,040 I 18:15:16 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00 I 18:15:16 Operation Started! I 18:15:16 Source File: -==/\/[BUILD IMAGE]\/\==- I 18:15:16 Source File Sectors: 2,247,040 (MODE1/2048) I 18:15:16 Source File Size: 4,601,937,920 bytes I 18:15:16 Source File Volume Identifier: DVD I 18:15:16 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.4.4.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER! I 18:15:16 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn I 18:15:16 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 18:15:16 Destination Device: [1:0:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D 1.41 (D:) (ATA) I 18:15:16 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x) I 18:15:16 Destination Media Sectors: 2,295,104 I 18:15:16 Write Mode: DVD I 18:15:16 Write Type: DAO I 18:15:16 Write Speed: 6x I 18:15:16 DVD+R Reserve Track: No I 18:15:16 Link Size: Auto I 18:15:16 Lock Volume: Yes I 18:15:16 Test Mode: No I 18:15:16 OPC: No I 18:15:16 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 18:15:16 Advanced Settings - Optimal Writing Speed: No I 18:15:17 Filling Buffer... (40 MB) I 18:15:22 Writing LeadIn... I 18:16:09 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2247039) I 18:16:09 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2247039) I 18:25:32 Synchronising Cache... I 18:25:33 Closing Track... I 18:25:37 Finalising Disc... W 18:26:15 Potential 'WaitImmediateIO' Deferred Error - (0%, 1/3) - Unknown (Internal Target Failure) (ASC: 0x44, ASCQ: 0xD6) W 18:26:15 Finalise Disc Failed! - Reason: Unknown (Internal Target Failure) (ASC: 0x44, ASCQ: 0xD6) W 18:26:15 Retrying (1 of 3)... W 18:27:11 Potential 'WaitImmediateIO' Deferred Error - (0%, 1/3) - Unknown (Internal Target Failure) (ASC: 0x44, ASCQ: 0xD6) W 18:27:11 Retry Failed - Reason: Unknown (Internal Target Failure) (ASC: 0x44, ASCQ: 0xD6) W 18:27:11 Retrying (2 of 3)... W 18:27:43 Potential 'WaitImmediateIO' Deferred Error - (0%, 1/3) - Unknown (Internal Target Failure) (ASC: 0x44, ASCQ: 0xD6) W 18:27:43 Retry Failed - Reason: Unknown (Internal Target Failure) (ASC: 0x44, ASCQ: 0xD6) W 18:27:43 Retrying (3 of 3)... W 18:28:33 Potential 'WaitImmediateIO' Deferred Error - (0%, 1/3) - Unknown (Internal Target Failure) (ASC: 0x44, ASCQ: 0xD6) W 18:28:33 Retry Failed - Reason: Unknown (Internal Target Failure) (ASC: 0x44, ASCQ: 0xD6) I 18:28:37 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:13:16 I 18:28:37 Average Write Rate: 7,996 KB/s (5.8x) - Maximum Write Rate: 8,477 KB/s (6.1x) I 18:28:37 Close Request Acknowledged I 18:28:37 Closing Down... I 18:28:38 Shutting down SPTI... I 18:28:38 ImgBurn closed! | ||||
| Gen-An posted 2009 Aug 21 13:32 | ||||
It's been a lot longer than that, CMC has been making Mitsubishi DVD media at least since the 4x days: http://hhg.sakura.ne.jp/cd-dvd/px712a/mitsubishi/mcc01rg20_taiwanc.htm. They've also manufactured MCC CD-R media since the late 90s. |
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