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Sanyo xacti hd2000 firmware update | ||||
| frejk posted 2009 Oct 17 08:14 | ||||
| Hi
i just got myself the sanyo hd2000 and i really like it, i got the .7x sanyo wide angle to it, it shoots 60fps progressive at a data rate of 24Mbs, my hope is that someone rewrites the software to this one so it gets a 24P mode with the maximum data rate 24Mbs. that little change would make this little beauty be able to compete with the semi pro camcorders one level up from this one. Its still going to be H264= artifacts, but it would produce images with higher quality and hopefully more color depth. i find that the camera makes a better job coding the images if i use faster shutter speed, and building a steadycam, or attaching the camera to something heavy will reduce the camera shake significantly, camera shake= motion blur= wierd blocking artifacts in the h264 codec. I dont know if sanyo is interested in anything else than ntsc 59.94 Hertz. but i hope that you that are reading this is a employee at sanyo, or a programmer that wanna make this happen. cheers .fredrik [/img]  | ||||
| mparnigoni posted 2009 Oct 20 06:16 | ||||
| Hi Frejk,
I own the same model since the end of August: so far I can tell I very do like color management (vivid and "glossy"), even if it's sometimes choppy and slow as far as light management (but with one CCD, I can't expect to be better than that), and the affordable optics you can get (which works pretty well for their price). What is nonsense imho, is the switch button just where the thumb hold the grip (I already had a couple of annoying, unwanted, shut-off of the camera), the jacks position for Mics etc. (again, ergonomically sick), and the zoom control, which I would have probably tried to build differently. In general though, for the price and the output you get, I'm pretty happy: I'll take into consideration now to have some proper steady system. As far as format, codec, etc. I completely agree with you: my "dream" would be of an open firmware camera, where you can load any codec you desire. H.264 is in the end a delivery codec, very powerful and light, but of no use for editing (I'm looking now for a batch process so to normalize mp4 in output and have them in a format FCP do "like"). Anyway, it's interesting your pov, but I fear too we'd always get the NTSC issue when speaking about those products... :( Regars, M. | ||||
| jagabo posted 2009 Oct 20 07:22 | ||||
| I've seen samples of the newer model's (FH1) 1080p60 output and was impressed. It does have 1080p24 but they left out the obvious 720p60. | ||||
| frejk posted 2009 Oct 20 07:26 | ||||
| i dunno if its possible, but people are doing this with gaming consoles,
extrating the firmware rewriting it and reinstall, im shure there is hackers out there that could do this. as for your problem with the codec: they recently released a updated version of the cam (VPC-HD2000A and VPC-FH1A) that got i-frame codec which has a limit of resolution at 960x540 30p because Inter frame codecs uses more Mbs. the I-frame codec shouldnt make any problems when editing. and probably its the exact same hardware, so pleeease Sanyo, allow us to download and install firmware from your website:) if could change anything for future models i would add a F-mount or such for use of 35mm lenses, (with manual exposure and focus) a full sized 35mm chip. and as long as the cmos chip has problems with rolling shutter, stick to the ccd chip. and ofcourse maximum use of the cameras bandwidth on all formats, and framerates. and if they could up the bandwidth significantly , a mode to shoot .dpx file sequences, but then the would need to raid0 some sdhc cards:) cheerio .f | ||||
| jagabo posted 2009 Oct 20 07:31 | ||||
| At least the Xacti's GOP size is small -- about 30 frames. So editing is much less painful than 300 frame GOP h.264. | ||||
| frejk posted 2009 Oct 20 07:38 | ||||
| that sounds awesome with a 24p mode, to bad that i already got my hd2000:(
i wonder if they used full bandwith (24Mbs) or if the 24p mode is 12Mbs? | ||||
| raverscout posted 2009 Nov 08 16:01 | ||||
Sanyo! I'm very annoyed I cant do firmare upgrades! end of, lack of 24p modes. lack of Open Source! somebody hack away now please for god sake, I bought mine the 1st month of release,sometimes its slow to focus on certain things, you have to play with the focus settings from spot to multi focus, sport mode, half press focus, etc. Its not bad but you have to experiment with every setting, further more the detailed instuctons are ona disc PDF somewhere around here which dosnt help:( I will have to print this out when the new printer arrives printer khama depending. Whats the best way to capture other than drag dropping? Usng the docking station and the USB lead attached to a decent laptop and say Cyberlink Power Director 7 with latest updates and 4gb ram be enough to cature at 1080p 1920 25-30fps? So far Ive been dragging droppin the MP4s over to Powerdirector but wonder about the 30fps to 25fps it has to convert it to as it sometimes appears jerky on renders in places. Maybe I should try Sony Vegas 8? I have been given some good pointers with some nice hardware by Haupage PVR with composite in capturing to 1080p, dunno if they will link via USB?. What is best Composite or S-Video Captures?? Wouldnt it be wonderful with Open Source Firmware / Software please Sanyo make it so! I could play DIVX MP3 FLAC WAV files! and Record at 25fps!! 1080px1920 you know really usefull stuff you need when creating videos at least Nokia and Google Android is Open Source they get it, Ive shot and made Fully Edited Video for Youtube with Music on just a 1st Generation Nokia N95-1 with 8GB MicroSDcard! its had 31 firmware upgrades! thats what I call support! maybe its in developement with Sanyo, even Sony had to buckle to the power of the Mp3 movement, so should Sanyo to firmware, well Im still happy with my HD2000 camera its great but it would really whip Sony with Open Source firmware and make us feel a bit better knowing its upgradeable. How can we find out about future firmware releases? will we have to send our cams back to Sanyo? I may sell mine now.. all this time and I see no support from Sanyo. Dream would be to record HDMI signals into the Docking station directly to the device at same quality!, but that would be breaking all sorts of HDMI laws.. oh well. cut off my creative hands why dont you :/ | ||||
| edDV posted 2009 Nov 08 16:38 | ||||
| I don't see any 24p support on their spec page http://sanyo.com/xacti/english/products/vpc_hd2000/spec.html
24p would take camera stabilization anyway. You can't shoot acceptable 24p with a pistol grip. The 1080i and 1080p bit rates are low for h.264. 1280x720/30 at 9Mb/s is also low. As Jagabo said, this thing cries out for a 1280x720p/59.94 mode at full 24 Mb/s bitrate. That would work better for hand held. | ||||
| jagabo posted 2009 Nov 08 17:17 | ||||
If you're referring to my post, I was talking about the newer model (FH1) having 24p. Guess I should have been clearer. | ||||
| raverscout posted 2009 Nov 09 01:53 | ||||
Thanks to both of you for heads up and links! :) | ||||
| frejk posted 2009 Nov 15 09:14 | ||||
[quote="raverscout"]
Cant find any documentation about 24p, all i can find is 60fps Progressive and Interlaced, 30fps progressive. and the fun but not so useful (because of the resolution) 240 and 600 progressive http://sanyo.com/xacti/english/products/vpc_fh1/spec.html .f | ||||
| jagabo posted 2009 Nov 15 12:02 | ||||
I thought I read somewhere that it supported 24p but you're right, the web site doesn't say so. |
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