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LG LRH-780 harddrive upgrade | ||
| canadian bacon posted 2007 Apr 30 18:37 | ||
| so can you upgrade the harddrive on this machine,,im thinking of buying it and putting in a 300gig seagate,,or a 250 westerndig,,cheers | ||
| obs posted 2007 May 02 15:49 | ||
| I've read other users here who say they've done it, but I haven't tried myself. Use the search feature.
In any case, buy and try. FS's return policy is pretty flexible :). | ||
| canadian bacon posted 2007 May 02 16:16 | ||
| im doing one now as we speak,,taking out the 80gig and trying a 250 maxtor,.,let you know,,cheers | ||
| canadian bacon posted 2007 May 02 17:45 | ||
| ok i can confirm this,,it works,,changed the 80 gig to a 250gig maxtor,,formatted it and know i have 127hrs on sp mode,,even recorded some stuff on it to make sure and no problem,,all that work to upgrade the pionner,,not for me,,cheers | ||
| video_user posted 2007 May 06 16:34 | ||
| Canadian Bacon: Is the Maxtor as quiet as the original HDD? What model # of the Maxtor did you get? And is everything still working well?
Thanks | ||
| canadian bacon posted 2007 May 12 20:04 | ||
| i dont know the model maxtor,250gig and yes it is very quiet and it works like a charm,i have been using it for a week steady and had up to 30 to 40 hours of video on the harddrive,,i should have bought this first,,i have a pionner with an 80gig and the work involed to change it is crazy,,,never going pionner again,,LG all the way,,cheers | ||
| video_user posted 2007 May 12 20:43 | ||
| Thanks CB. I switched my 80GB with a 320 GB Western Digital. It was a pretty simple switch, and I've recorded some titles with no problem. The HDD is really quiet, and I'm very happy with the switch.
Two complaints I have: 1. If you edit a recording, you can only transfer it to a disc in real time. This is a real pain. (Maybe there will be a firmware upgrade to resolve this (I hope.)) 2. There's no timeshifting if you use the timer to record. There may be a couple of other minor issues, but I'm really happy with this machine. | ||
| canadian bacon posted 2007 May 13 14:15 | ||
| hey glad to hear that,,im going to try when i get the time to put in a 500gig drive,,once i get my LCD tv ill be using the record mode in xp,,so i will need the xtra gigs for the best picture,,the problems your having i have not tried yet,,once i start playing with it more ill try and figure out how to transfer the edited part form the harddrive to dvd with speed,,will let you know,,cheers,,P.S. you can also transfer a DVD movie only to the hd,,fullscreen only,,just press play movie in the DVD menu and wait 5 seconds and press dubbing,,cheers | ||
| video_user posted 2007 May 14 16:28 | ||
| Thanks for the info. I'll try and copy a movie to the HD, and see how it goes. If you find anything out about the fast dubbing of edited files, I'd be very interested to know about it.
Thanks. | ||
| obs posted 2007 May 14 19:59 | ||
| 1. If you edit a recording, you can only transfer it to a disc in real time. This is a real pain. (Maybe there will be a firmware upgrade to resolve this (I hope.))
Agreed. Even if you just cut/split the video, you can't fast dub anymore. I think it is because of how it handles the files. When you make edits, I think it just re-writes the ".ifo" file and leaves the actual ".vob" files alone. I haven't used any other recorder with HDD, so I don't know if other models updates the clips in seconds (like the LG), or if it takes a few minutes for the machine to rewrite the clips. Anyways, i don't think there will ever be a firmware update to change this. Even their latest model, the 890, has the same edit/fast_dub limitation. One real pain is that there's no internal battery. If the power flicks off for a second or two, there goes all your timer programming! | ||
| video_user posted 2007 May 15 20:04 | ||
| You're probably right about the firmware upgrade. There's not much information about this recorder even on the LG site, so I don't think they'll be putting any updates/improvements out for it.
I have to agree with you on the internal battery issue. A split second loss of power, and I have to reset the time which messes up any timer recordings. | ||
| LifeIsGd posted 2007 May 15 21:49 | ||
| Thanks for the upgrade info; looks like FS sold out on this model!
I have Videotron Illico 3200 digital box, which cann't control this recorder; I have to program them seperately in order to do scheduled recording. Kind of pain! Can someone can shed some light? Thanks in advance. | ||
| canadian bacon posted 2007 May 15 21:55 | ||
| i have a sony with a 160gig and a pionner with a 80gig,,when i edit whats on the HDD it will put it to disc at 4X,,this recorder is the only one i have seen so far that does this in real time,i guess you take the good with the bad,,this is the only recorder that will allow me to put a movie on the HDD,,and upgrade the HDD to what ever size i want,,and thanks for the heads up on the no battary,,going to ask my computer guy see if we can put one in,,will let you know,,cheers | ||
| LifeIsGd posted 2007 May 25 08:17 | ||
| Does this drive use IDE HD or the new SATA HD? | ||
| video_user posted 2007 May 25 18:55 | ||
| This drive uses the IDE HD. | ||
| LifeIsGd posted 2007 May 25 21:22 | ||
Thanks for the info. This is a good recorder; the only glitch I encountered is as follows: let's say, you copy 1 hour video from HD -> DVD, and then you want to add another 1 hour video to DVD. Sometimes this additional section of video will not be successfully added; it simply create a empty frame in the menu. The workaround is to eject the disc and then copy again. | ||
| video_user posted 2007 May 25 22:55 | ||
| I usually wait until I have enough video to fill a disc before I burn, so I haven't run into that issue yet, but that's good to know. Thanks for the info. | ||
| Jeremiah58 posted 2007 May 25 23:35 | ||
Please describe how to do it. Have you tried to put the 80GB HD in a PC? Thanks. | ||
| video_user posted 2007 May 27 07:24 | ||
| From what I remember:
Take the cover off the unit. You'll see the 5 or 6 screws on top of the HD holding the HD in the unit. There's also a screw on the side. Remove the screws. There's a screw that holds the IDE connector (which is directly plugged in to the HD without a cable). Remove the screw. Gently pull out the connector from the HD. Unplug the power connector from the HD. Remove the HD from the unit. (Be careful when taking the HD out of the unit, because there was a thin plastic type connector taped or glued under the HD and I almost pulled it out by mistake. There's also a small plastic piece above the HDD to watch out for.) Install the new HD. Plug in the power connector and the IDE connector. Screw everything back in and put the cover back on, and you're done. It should take no more than 5-10 minutes. I take no responsibility if anything goes wrong! If you take your time and be careful, this really shouldn't be a problem. Yes I did try the 80GB HD in my computer, but unfortunately Windows couldn't see any of the recordings on it. | ||
| Jeremiah58 posted 2007 May 27 08:49 | ||
Thank you.
I read a post here, don't remember where exactly, that a HD pulled out of a DVD recorder, may be recognized and a content seen, under Linux. | ||
| obs posted 2007 May 29 06:50 | ||
| you copy 1 hour video from HD -> DVD, and then you want to add another 1 hour video to DVD.
I haven't had that problem when using +RWs. BTW, HD = HiDef. HDD = Hard Disc Drive. | ||
| LifeIsGd posted 2007 May 30 08:35 | ||
I use DVD-R to backup video fro HDD. It does not happen all the times. Anyway, if you encouter any copy-to-DVD problem, try this workaround. | ||
| chicolatino1 posted 2007 Jun 12 14:27 | ||
| I have a problem, I own an LG HDD/DVD recorder, model LRH-780. I recorded world cup games on it but they will not burn on dvd-r on any other type of disk at all, I'm thinking its cuz they are world cup games that were recorded in HD so perhaps they are encoded or something. In any case, is there anything I can do to extract these videos onto a MacBook by hooking them up? or Do i have to take it somewhere to do this? What would I need to buy?
PLEASE HELP, thank you | ||
| LCSHG posted 2007 Jun 12 18:37 | ||
| canadian bacon
What format is used If the drive is erased or formatted in the unit does the drive format back to 80gb | ||
| chicolatino1 posted 2007 Jun 13 05:52 | ||
| no idea, someone recommended dvd xcopy platinum? no idea what to do, i dont wanna lose those games!!! :( | ||
| Jeremiah58 posted 2007 Jun 13 06:36 | ||
| If you recorded those games in mp4, you can not burn to DVD. | ||
| LifeIsGd posted 2007 Aug 25 21:53 | ||
| It took me 10 minutes to put in a Western Digital 500G ($119) hard drive; now it can record 259 hours (SP) DVD quality video (10 days 24 hours-recording).
Just in time for the Tennis U.S. Open coming Monday! :D Thanks a lot for the instructions! | ||
| zoobie posted 2007 Aug 26 04:46 | ||
| I just bought a 250gb Seagate HDD (not that I wanted to) from newegg.com for $68 delivered so that seems about right...
I'd reeeeally hate to have a 500gb HDD fail on me...For storage, you'll soon find out that digital tape is the only way to go. | ||
| LifeIsGd posted 2007 Aug 26 11:14 | ||
Seagate 500G/750G HDD uses new technology (Perpendicular Recording), which might not be as reliable. I hope Western Digital HDD can last a long time :) Good recording goes onto DVD disc for sure! | ||
| Seeker47 posted 2007 Aug 26 12:13 | ||
All these things you mention sound like serious design shortcomings to me, whatever the other performance characteristics of this dvr may be. So, the (older and no longer available) Pioneer models continue looking better and better to me. We recently had a seven hour power blackout from the electric utility (thanks a lot, you turkeys !), and I fully expected a whole passel of programmed recordings I had input to be toast. But when the power came back on, they were still there in the Timer Recording list -- even on the older 520. However, I was not nearly so lucky with the corresponding timed events (for timed channel changes) that had been input into the two cable boxes . . . . | ||
| LCSHG posted 2007 Aug 26 14:21 | ||
| seeker 77
Agreed Not only a serious design flaw or a pain. It would be anacceptable Back in 6/12/07 I I asked [canadian bacon] "What format is used If the drive is erased or formatted in the unit does the drive format back to 80gb" I never did get a reply | ||
| LifeIsGd posted 2007 Aug 26 20:24 | ||
| How many HDD recorders would let you upgrade hard drive in 10 minutes requiring just a screw driver?
For this alone, I would go with this LG machine in a heartbeat. Not to mention the great picture quality thanks to its LSI chip! | ||
| LCSHG posted 2007 Aug 26 21:21 | ||
| LifeIsGd
Do I assume that your post is to me Do I also assume that the reply means that any size drive will be formatted by the Unit to its full capacity. That is my question Also ---[What is the format]???? My liteon/ilo units also have an LSI chip and will take a larger than original HDD but the drive must be formatted in a PC and not in the recorder as it will format it to the original capacity The format is fat 32 with 64k cluster Its not that bad. about 1hr and should not be a problem after once done There is no problem with Edit or other functions when done If installing a larger than original HDD in the LG results in Edit amd other function problems. I feel that the larger HDD, more than makes a good unit a bad one | ||
| LifeIsGd posted 2007 Aug 27 10:10 | ||
The "editing problem" as pointed out by some has nothing to do with HDD upgrade. It is a limitation of the machine (like a lot of others) that clip can not be transfered to DVD at high speed if it is edited. It will only be able to transfer it in slow speed. The LG file system used can not be recognized by Windows. In my case, I pulled out my HDD from an USB external box and formating it in LG took took less than 30 sec. Is that because there is a Windows FS on the HDD so that it is so fast? I doubt it since LG does not use any Windows FS. It is my understanding from reading others' posts that there is really no need to format it in a PC first. In Summary: 1) This LG will recognize "any" size HHD thrown in ( up to 500G tested so far) and use its full capacity. Mine is now 259 Hours (SP) instead of the original 40 hours (SP). 2) There is no problem introduced by the HDD upgrade. 3) Upgrade time: about 10 minutes; tool required: screw drive. Hope this helps. | ||
| next posted 2007 Aug 27 10:46 | ||
| LifeIsGD - as I read through the thread it was obvious to me what this LG model is capable of. Easy HDD replacement with the ability to take advantage of the full size of the HDD. Great news.
Thanks for taking the time to once again explain a very simple concept. A far as LCSHG's post. LCSHG has demonstrated in the past an inability to comprehend what a poster has written - although others have no problem. This inability often manifests itself as some sort of evidence that the OP has their facts wrong. And then is often followed up with a post that states his inquiry remains unanswered. As demonstrated once again in this thread. It happens quite a bit and this is just another exmple. It gets old after a while. Don't take it personally. Your posts were very clear. Again I thnk it is obvious what the capabilities of the LG are. Again great news! | ||
| LCSHG posted 2007 Aug 27 12:21 | ||
| LifeIsGd
Thanks for the Reply It would indicate that the LG would accept and format a Larger than original HDD and the format is other than Windows. I agree that the edit problem has nothing to do with the HDD replacement. Its replacement does seem to affect any edit in the time used to dub and might be an issue for some Looking back my term “more than makes a good unit a bad one” is somewhat harsh. I do not have one but feel the LG is a good unit. At the time I was looking for info Unfortunately when a question is asked and there is no reply or the response is vague and questionable, than asked again. Offence is taken and a person is said not to comprehend. Thanks Again for your Comprehensive and Informative Reply | ||
| next posted 2007 Aug 27 12:49 | ||
| canadian bacon has a total of 8 posts here at video help. 6 of them in this thread with the last being May 15th of this year. I believe it is obvious that canadian bacon may have moved on.
That being said I believe the post of May 2nd in this thread explaining the success of a 250GB HDD has held true to form. With additional successful installations as great as 500GB also reported since May 2nd. Making it obvious, for a while now, that the LG is capable of what has been reported. | ||
| canadian bacon posted 2007 Sep 05 20:55 | ||
| sorry guys,i had to go on a long trip,,i drive transport so it has been a little busy,,as far as formatting the drive the LG does it automaticly and what ever size drive you put in it will format to that size,,hope that helps,,anymore problems let me know ill be around for awhile,,cheers :D
PS,,also forgot,, you can buy a special harddrive for your LG,,they use it in the satellite receivers,and cable boxes,,PVR,,i think seagate makes them for servers,,they last longer then a regular harddive and take more shit,,they cost a little more but there worth it,,,cheers | ||
| obs posted 2007 Oct 09 04:53 | ||
| Yes I did try the 80GB HD in my computer, but unfortunately Windows couldn't see any of the recordings on it.
Here's what you've all been waiting for ... TADA! A little tool that lets you dump files directly from the HDD to your Windows PC! http://ifndef.altervista.org/index_eng.html Get From_hdd_lg_to_pc v1.09 unzip it ... virus scan it ... run "from_hdd_lg_to_pc.exe" A file manager window pops up, with a directory-tree list. Select the clip you want to dump, then press COPY. You will then be prompted on where you want to save the file. Files are in .VRO format. Renaming them to .MPG may help to make them more friendly with your DVD authoring software. Of course, you first have to take out the LG harddrive and connect it to your computer somehow (I did via IDE to USB dongle/cable). Have fun, and don't forget to thank the authors :). | ||
| Seeker47 posted 2007 Oct 09 12:34 | ||
Looks like a really good find for LG recorder owners. Nothing applicable to other brands though, right ? (Since they very likely do different, proprietary things with their HD formats and storage schemes.) | ||
| obs posted 2007 Nov 04 17:15 | ||
| Looks like a really good find for LG recorder owners. Nothing applicable to other brands though, right ? (Since they very likely do different, proprietary things with their HD formats and storage schemes.)
Zenith, since it's the same company as LG. Asides from that you're probably correct, but that doesn't mean you can't try :). Also found a site with modified LRH-780 firmware, so that it automatically switches off when a timer recording is about to start. I haven't tried it myself. It's supposedly based on the official 60911_NT firmware, which is the latest known. I think the 790s use the same firmware as the 780s ... not positive, though. http://gurus.atw.hu/ If you take a closer look at that site, there's a beta firmware for the PAL version of these recorders that let you fast dump edited clips, so maybe they'll modify the NTSC firmware to do the same *fingers crossed*. | ||
| LarryGB posted 2007 Nov 04 20:08 | ||
| Hi OBS,
Short trip from down under..... Wondering if you or others have tried the NTSC F/W for your 780 yet. I've burnt and booted the upgrade from the Gurus, but was a little hesitant to continue. It's now sitting besides my LG 790, waiting for an impulsive day. Would be interested in feed back on this update. Also for those with some hacking interests, check out the goings on over at dtvforumdotinfo/index.php?showtopic=42822, and check out the hidden switch menus, etc... | ||
| LarryGB posted 2007 Nov 06 01:07 | ||
| See here: http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtopic=42822&view=findp ... p;p=832571 for an update on the LRH-790 F/W upgrade...... | ||
| angels90 posted 2008 Apr 05 05:54 | ||
| My thanks to obs for that link. I've got an lg hdd rh7823w with a 160 gig harddrive. I had dumped a lot of my old home videos on there for storage. First time around, I'd just burmed them off to dvd-rw and onto an external harddrive for editing. Took days :( Then the harddrive failed ...
Still had the videos on the lg - with the program obs suggested and an external usb enclosure, it's taking hardly any time at all! | ||
| spirit guide posted 2009 Oct 24 03:03 | ||
| hello: i have problem with my lg rh274h because i remove the hard drive to save my files in a PC, but, i put the HD again and it doesn´t recognized anymore y change the cable just in case i damaged it, but it´s still not working, it doesn´t appear anything on the screen, so what can i do? |
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