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Imgburn alternative for BDRebuilder

SimonG156 posted 2009 Sep 17 08:18
I have run one of my BluRays (Dark Knight) through BDrebuilder and it works great shrinking to AVCHD DVD. The only snag is my Optiarc DVD RW/BD ROM drive in my Dell laptop will not burn the disks with imgburn. Is there an alternative to imgburn? I have Roxio and could by Nero if it's cheaper than an external burner. The image burns ok on my old desktop.


Dr_Layne posted 2009 Sep 17 08:52
I believe Imgburn uses Nero's burning engine, so switching to Nero probably won't help.

To burn AVCHD DVD you need to burn in UDF 2.50.



jman98 posted 2009 Sep 17 08:54
I've never heard of ImgBurn not working with any drive. I suggest you contact the author and see what he has to say about this.

Roxio? Ay yi yi! A plague on Roxio. As much as Nero is condemned here for good reason, it's better than Roxio. I can't recommend using them both as they do NOT play nice together on the same system. I guess try Roxio, which is craptacular, since you already have it, but definitely contact the author of ImgBurn in case he can fix the problem or tell you what's wrong with your setup. If Roxio doesn't work and you want to try Nero, you'll need to remove Roxio for best results.



lantern posted 2009 Sep 17 09:13
I would suggest posting in the imgburn forums.


SimonG156 posted 2009 Sep 17 09:17
I had a quick look on the imgburn forum but anyone posting that imgburn didn't work was told to get a new drive as "imgburn just works". And it seemed a bit churlish to ask for an imgburn alternative on his own forum!


ron spencer posted 2009 Sep 17 09:30
this is user, hardware, or media error...never seen a drive that it did not work with

google ashampoo free they have a free version with no adaware, etc. and try. If it does not work, then you know it is not a software issue



SimonG156 posted 2009 Sep 17 09:33
I suspect hardware as I can run the burn on an old desktop on the same media. I have bought some new Verbatim DVDs to try tonight. I'll try Ashampoo - thanks for the suggestion.


hech54 posted 2009 Sep 17 10:08
SimonG156 :
I had a quick look on the imgburn forum but anyone posting that imgburn didn't work was told to get a new drive as "imgburn just works"

And they are absolutely CORRECT. If ImgBurn doesn't work....your problem lies elsewhere.



VegasBud posted 2009 Sep 17 15:23
SimonG156,

To burn optical media, it takes burning software, a drive to burn with, and the optical media itself. Many people use ImgBurn for the software part because it works for most people, in most circumstances. If ImgBurn isn't working for you, the odds are the problem isn't the software, and the culprit is either the drive, the optical media, or how those two factors interact. In that case, the limiting factor isn't the software, so changing the software isn't likely to be a solution.

To see what the problem is, it would be best if you could post one of the ImgBurn logs from a failed burn. The details it contains should give a better idea of what's going wrong, and why it's going wrong...which would lead to a true solution to the problem.



ricardouk posted 2009 Sep 17 18:28
Dr_Layne :
I believe Imgburn uses Nero's burning engine


Is this true? I was under the impression imgburn doesnt have anything to do with nero burning engine.



Noahtuck posted 2009 Sep 17 18:31
ricardouk :
Dr_Layne :
I believe Imgburn uses Nero's burning engine


Is this true? I was under the impression imgburn doesnt have anything to do with nero burning engine.


I've never heard that before.



VegasBud posted 2009 Sep 17 20:20
ricardouk :
I was under the impression imgburn doesnt have anything to do with nero burning engine.
Your impression is correct. ImgBurn does not use nero's burning engine.


Cornucopia posted 2009 Sep 17 21:15
It would be a small matter to borrow a friend's external USB burner (let's hope you have one of those friends) and try with that. If it works there, you're pretty much assured that the problem is with your drive.

Personally, I've never really had horrible burning with either Roxio/Adaptec/Cequadrat or Nero, but then I am also very particular about pre-authoring in other apps and then verifying the disc image prior to burning, so a burning software would have to be so badly written as to not burn the majority of the time for it to ruin my burns.
Then again, ImgBurn is now my burner app of choice, too. Mainly because of it's No-Nonsense and clean interface (no BLOATWARE!!!)

Scott



SimonG156 posted 2009 Sep 18 13:58
VegasBud :
.

To see what the problem is, it would be best if you could post one of the ImgBurn logs from a failed burn. The details it contains should give a better idea of what's going wrong, and why it's going wrong...which would lead to a true solution to the problem.


I got a trial of Ashampoo 9. That hung on writing the lead out but eected the disk 15 minutes later and it was fine. This suggests the drive. Unfortunately I have the latest firmware... It is a Sony Optiarc 5600 slot loading BD/DVD-RW drive.
The log from ImgBurn is as follows (it hangs with seconds on writing lead-in)
I 19:15:45 ImgBurn Version 2.5.0.0 started!
I 19:15:45 Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium x64 Edition (6.0, Build 6001 : Service Pack 1)
I 19:15:45 Total Physical Memory: 4,188,104 KB - Available: 2,212,928 KB
I 19:15:45 Initialising SPTI...
I 19:15:45 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 19:15:45 Found 1 BD-ROM/HD DVD-ROM and 1 BD-ROM/DVD±RW!
I 19:17:38 Operation Started!
I 19:17:38 Building Image Tree...
I 19:17:38 Calculating Totals...
I 19:17:38 Preparing Image...
I 19:17:38 Contents: 10 Files, 14 Folders
I 19:17:38 Content Type: BD Video
I 19:17:38 Data Type: MODE1/2048
I 19:17:38 File System(s): UDF (2.50)
I 19:17:38 Volume Label: DARK_KNIGHT
I 19:17:38 Size: 4,265,646,430 bytes
I 19:17:38 Sectors: 2,082,842
I 19:17:38 Image Size: 4,266,524,672 bytes
I 19:17:38 Image Sectors: 2,083,264
I 19:17:40 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:02
I 19:17:40 Operation Started!
I 19:17:41 Source File: -==/\/[BUILD IMAGE]\/\==-
I 19:17:41 Source File Sectors: 2,083,264 (MODE1/2048)
I 19:17:41 Source File Size: 4,266,524,672 bytes
I 19:17:41 Source File Volume Identifier: DARK_KNIGHT
I 19:17:41 Source File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.0.0
I 19:17:41 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn
I 19:17:41 Source File File System(s): UDF (2.50)
I 19:17:41 Destination Device: [1:0:0] Optiarc DVDRWBD BC-5600S 10AB (E:) (ATA)
I 19:17:41 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: MCC 03RG20) (Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x)
I 19:17:41 Destination Media Sectors: 2,297,888
I 19:17:41 Write Mode: DVD
I 19:17:41 Write Type: DAO
I 19:17:41 Write Speed: MAX
I 19:17:41 Link Size: Auto
I 19:17:41 Lock Volume: Yes
I 19:17:41 Test Mode: No
I 19:17:41 OPC: No
I 19:17:41 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 19:17:41 Filling Buffer... (40 MB)
I 19:17:42 Writing LeadIn...



VegasBud posted 2009 Sep 19 13:28
SimonG156,

First, thank you for the burn log...although in this case, the log is more helpful in what it doesn't say than in what it does say.

The way it's supposed to work, burning is a series of steps which is directed by the software, and performed by the drive. For each step, the software sends a command to the drive, the drive does the task specified by the command it received from the software, and then the drive reports back to the software on its' success/failure at performing the task. The drive's reply determines what action the software should take next...if there was success, send the command to perform the next step in the process...if there was a failure, handle the error. In this case, ImgBurn told the drive to write the lead-in to the disk, and then sat back to wait for a success/failure reply from the drive...but the drive never reported back.

Without feedback from the drive as to what its' problem was, all we know is it's not a software problem and it's not a media problem... its' a computer/drive problem. Hopefully, your laptop is still under warranty, but either way, I would give dell tech support a call and see what they have to say.

In case dell turns out to be no help, you'll need to do some detective work to figure out what the hardware problem is. It might be the drive, but it also might be the connections to the drive. It could also be a problem with the adapter, or its' driver. For hardware problems, I'm not going to be as much help as some of the other members here. If one of them doesn't run across this thread, you may need to start another thread with a title that would attract one of the hardware gurus to help you. If all else fails, post back to this thread, and I'll help you as much as I can.

One last thing...if you have a friend with a usb burner, as Cornucopia suggested, you can give that a try. If they put good burners in laptops, it's something I've never seen. You might be better off with a usb burner. At least it's an option that's available.



SimonG156 posted 2009 Sep 19 13:33
VegasBud :
SimonG156,



Thanks for taking the time to explain. The disk will not eject until a reboot so it does seem that it might be going into no man's land. The burner in my desktop works so i might get a caddy for that if Dell are no help.

Thanks again.




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