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How to join mov files?

Espen posted 2006 Nov 03 17:14

Do anyone know any program that can join mov files? I only find programs that join and convert at the same time. I want to have the files joined to one single mov file.

redwudz posted 2006 Nov 03 17:44

Quicktime Pro? http://www.apple.com/quicktime/pro/win.html

Espen posted 2006 Nov 03 20:40

There are many programs that join all kind of files, but not mov files. Is there no Join program that can handle mov?

Espen posted 2006 Nov 03 21:16

redwudz : Quicktime Pro? http://www.apple.com/quicktime/pro/win.html How do you join files with quicktime pro?

vico1 posted 2006 Nov 04 00:50

One of these might do it for you. http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/Best/join-_mov-free.html (despite the name of the link...I think they're most all shareware/demo)

Espen posted 2006 Nov 04 06:01

vico1 : One of these might do it for you. http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/Best/join-_mov-free.html (despite the name of the link...I think they're most all shareware/demo) Hard to find the right program of these that can join mov to mov. It take some time to try all of them, therefor I ask for a specifik program.

vico1 posted 2006 Nov 04 06:31

Yes...there are a number of apps that will join .mov files, but Not out-put in mov... :? MMMM...I wonder if there's any way Ouicktime Pro can work with Avisynth?

jonas more posted 2006 Nov 04 06:48

Espen : How do you join files with quicktime pro? From QuickTime 7.1 User's Guide: "With QuickTime Pro, you can easily add one movie to another to make one longer movie. To combine two movies: 1. In QuickTime Player, choose Edit>Select All to select the entire contents of the first movie. 2. Choose Edit>Copy, then open the second movie. 3. Move the playhead to the point at which you want to insert the movie (usually the very beginning or end of the original movie), and choose Edit>Paste. 4. Choose File>Save As to name and save the new movie." I have used this technique many times and it really is very simple. You should be able to join .mov files with MPEG Streamclip without purchasing QuickTime Pro. Anthony

vico1 posted 2006 Nov 04 07:09

Thanks jonas more...Very informative... :idea: I don't use Quicktime much myself, but it's good to know how to properly use it when I do. Like they say what to do first...RTFM!... :D

jonas more posted 2006 Nov 04 07:36

vico1 : Like they say what to do first...RTFM!... :D LOL! I've learned to really like QuickTime Pro... it is the only program I have found that works with Windows to easily convert my widescreen DVDs to iPod resolution of 640x480. (at this time Jestreware DVD to iPod has a problem with anything other than full screen). Now I use it for other purposes and, even though it is a little slow, I must say it is a very good program. Anthony

jan.t posted 2007 Apr 11 15:32

Hello MOV VIDEO JOINER :( My problem is that I can only export my edited movie in pieces from Avid Xpress DV, each chunk is less than 9 min long (<9GB). I need a program to put these big and demanding chunks together. Most freeware programs try to reencode my movies and create image problems (lines in movements etc). I need a lossless MOV JOINER (input and output MOV) that can put my chunks together without loosing a single frame and does so without any qualitative Image loss! Any suggestions are very welcome...! My PAL export settings in Avid are the best possible: Compressor: Animation, Best, Millions of Colours. My workflow Avid Xpress DV 2.0 (.mov, .wav) MOV Joiner??? CCE Basic (.mov to mpv/mpeg2) Aften (wav to ac3) DvdAuthorGui ImgBurn Jan

Soopafresh posted 2007 Apr 11 16:04

You could join them with Avisynth, using this plugin for input http://www.tateu.net/software/dl.php?f=QTSource LoadPlugin("Qtsource.dll") QTInput("File1.mov", color = 2, quality = 100, audio = false, mode = 0, raw = "yuyv", info = 0, dither = 0)+QTInput("File2.mov", color = 2, quality = 100, audio = false, mode = 0, raw = "yuyv", info = 0, dither = 0) The above would output YUY , which is what CCE encoder wants. Instead of giving CCE your .MOV files, you feed it the .AVS file with the commands above.

jan.t posted 2007 Apr 11 16:38

I have never used Avisynth. Can you lead me through this? In that case I w i l l buy you a beer when you come to Sweden next time hehe. I download Qtsource_0_0_5a_bin to C:Program Files. I download Avisynth 2.5.7 for Notepad and write: LoadPlugin("Qtsource.dll") QTInput("File1.mov", color = 2,quality = 100, audio = false, mode = 0, raw = "yuyv", info = 0, dither = 0)+QtInput("File2.mov", color = 2, quality = 100, audio = false, mode = 0, raw = "yuyv", info = 0, dither = 0) For file1 I write my filename for the first exported segment and so on for file2.. No audio is used in this setting? (I export and encode audio for itself). Do I then just press enter? Where does the fused movie file show up? Sincerely, Samuel Adams

Soopafresh posted 2007 Apr 11 17:18

1) Download and install Avisynth 2) Download Qtsource (from above link) 3) Download AVSp http://www.avisynth.org/qwerpoi/AvsP_v1.3.7.zip (not needed, but a great editor for .AVS files) 4) Unzip Qtsource and place .dll in plugins folder 4) copy commands into AVSp window. Note - Since you copied the Qtsource.dll into the Plugins folder (as above) you DO NOT need to add the LoadPlugin("qtsource.dll") line. 5) Save as MyFirstScript.AVS 6) You should enter the full path to your *.MOV files. Download http://www.mlin.net/files/PathCopyEx.msi It will make your life so much easier. Right-Click on File Paste Into Script Voila !

jan.t posted 2007 Apr 14 13:23

I paste the paths but when I press F5 for a preview the window shuts down. I can not find any preview file that have been created. QTInput("F:\MOV, WAV files\Akram och Haman, Filmen, qtmov, cbr.mov", color = 2, quality = 100, audio = false, mode = 0, raw = "yuyv", info = 0, dither = 0) +QtInput("F:\MOV, WAV files\Akram och Haman, Filmen, qtmov, cbr, 2.mov", color = 2, quality = 100, audio = false, mode = 0, raw = "yuyv", info = 0, dither = 0) (I have written the paths and pasted them from Microsoft Word because when I try to (right) click the quicktime movie files I get an error and the window with the files is shut down. I also downloaded msvcr71.dll and put it in the avsp folder.) I can open the file in CCE Basic but when I press "Encode" I get: CCE has generated errors and the program is stuck. I remember I downloaded avisynth for notepad and try the script in notepad too but the same error message comes up. I saved the log from CCE Basic: encoder initialized. uncompressed YUY2. encoding started at 2007/04/16 15:38:15. The quicktime file sizes are 9.1+9.2 GB The Avsp output file is 315 Bytes The CCE output mpv file is 2.5 MB The Audio, Video TS output from dvdauthorgui are 0 bytes. The first time I got a message that this might be a frame size problem, that I didnt have a frame size that was 720*576. I use Windows 2000 prof without service packs since this works with my editing program. ANY IDEAS?

Soopafresh posted 2007 Apr 16 13:25

Those commas in the file name and path are bad, possibly confusing Avisynth, since Avisynth uses the "," to separate commands. Try a test - short file name and a short folder name F:\testfiles\qtmov1.mov F:\testfiles\qtmov2.mov If your files are crashing when you right click on them, Try opening this script in AvsP processing.avs F5 should give you this:

jan.t posted 2007 Apr 16 14:55

I got the color bars using the test process script. I always open my .mov files from the program I want to use so thats ok. I have to do another export because I want to rename the .mov files.

Soopafresh posted 2007 Apr 16 15:00

Great :) Good news. Let us know how it goes. You can clean up the long lines in Avisynth like this: Each Quicktime can be declared a letter or other variable : A= QtSource("file1.mov", etc) B= Qtsource("file2.mov", etc) # Declare a variable called Combined to be equal to the 2 files Combined= A+B # Display the results of the algebra Return Combined.Spline36Resize(720,576) The last line resizes both files to PAL DVD standard. Of course, you can combine many files : A= B= C= D= Combined= A+B+C+D Return Combined.Spline36Resize(720,576) Finally, CCE uses YUY color space, which I think QTsource gives it automatically. If not, then your last line should be: : Return Combined.Spline36Resize(720,576).ConverttoYUY2() - In the future, you can use another Avisynth plugin: http://web.missouri.edu/~kes25c/ColorMatrixv21.zip Which will fix the color levels when going from RGB to BT601 Return Combined.Spline36resize(720,576).ColorMatrix(mode="Rec.709->Rec.601").converttoYUY2()

jan.t posted 2007 Apr 16 18:35

My new script: A=QTInput("F:\MOV_WAV_files\AOHqtmov.mov", color = 2, quality = 100, audio = false, mode = 0, raw = "yuyv", info = 0, dither = 0) B=QTInput("F:\MOV_WAV_files\AOHqtmov2.mov", color = 2, quality = 100, audio = false, mode = 0, raw = "yuyv", info = 0, dither = 0) Combined=A+B Return Combined.Spline36resize(720,576) When I write this script and press the Preview button I get: "CAVIStreamSynth: System exception - Stack Overflow at 0x0". When I leave out the last line Returned Combined... and press preview I get: "The scripts return value was not a video clip". When I rewrite the last line to: Return Combined.Spline36Resize(720,576).ConverttoYUY2() I get the same CAVIStreamSynth error as in the first case. Should I export as 601 or RGB before using avsp? The DVD Movie will be played mostly on LCD and normal TV .

Soopafresh posted 2007 Apr 16 21:35

No, that's a bug in certain builds of Avisynth 2.57 - ""CAVIStreamSynth:" It is more the fault of Qtsource.dll, but we can fix it. Copy these 3 files into the same folder as your .AVS script. It will read the 2.56 Avisynth first, before finding it in \Windows\system32 Download avisynth_256_dlls.rar I took your script and recreated the folder structure. I don't have an F:\ drive, so I used E:\ 1) Put all of the files together just for a test. 2) Your script --> notice the loadplugin("qtsource.dll"). I combined a color and B&W film Color 3) CCE says "I like this script !" (hee hee) Don't Give Up ! This works :)

jan.t posted 2007 Apr 17 09:13

I got the seven files in my MOV_WAV_files folder. The Qtsource.dll I simply dragged from avisynth 2.5.7 plugin folder. My new script: Loadplugin("Qtsource.dll") A=QTInput("F:\MOV_WAV_files\AOHqtmov.mov", color = 2, quality = 100, audio = false, mode = 0, raw = "yuyv", info = 0, dither = 0) B=QTInput("F:\MOV_WAV_files\AOHqtmov2.mov", color = 2, quality = 100, audio = false, mode = 0, raw = "yuyv", info = 0, dither = 0) Combined=A+B Return Combined.Spline36Resize(720,576) In preview window I get: Loadplugin: unable to load "Qtsource.dll" (F:\Avs_Scripts\preview.avs, line 1). It seems not to refer to the right folder. The colors are right in the script so it is a copy of yours. I still use avisynth 2.5.7. I moved my sript AkramochHamanScript to the MOV_WAV_files folder and then clicked Preview, and got the same CAVIStreamSynth error.

Soopafresh posted 2007 Apr 17 09:43

We must be close to a solution, jan.t. Change to this: : SetMemoryMax(512) loadplugin("F:\MOV_WAV_files\Qtinput.dll") ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Download and unzip into same folder as F:\MOV_WAV_files\ test.zip 1) Open test_script.avs in AvsP and press F5 What version of Avisynth does it say ? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

jan.t posted 2007 Apr 17 10:36

SetMemoryMax(512) loadplugin("F:\MOV_WAV_files\Qtinput.dll") A=QTInput("F:\\AOHqtmov.mov", color = 2, quality = 100, audio = false, mode = 0, raw = "yuyv", info = 0, dither = 0) B=QTInput("F:\MOV_WAV_files\AOHqtmov2.mov", color = 2, quality = 100, audio = false, mode = 0, raw = "yuyv", info = 0, dither = 0) Combined=A+B Return Combined.Spline36Resize(720,576) In preview I get: LoadPlugin: unable to load "F:\MOV_WAV_files\Qtinput.dll" (F:\MOV_WAV_files\preview.avs, line 2). I unzip the test.zip and place the two files in MOV_WAV_files. I open the script in avsp and click preview. (The test file is .avi and not .mov). I get: AVISource: couldn´t locate a decompressor for fourcc xvid (F:\MOV_WAV_files\preview.avs, line 9) I will try the three different versions now. You know that I appreciate your help very much!

Soopafresh posted 2007 Apr 17 10:56

No problem. Here's 3 versions of the Dlls, along with a small .MOV and avs file. avisynth_dlls_257alpha.zip avisynth_dlls_257beta.zip avisynth_dlls_256.zip Unzip 1 at a time, open the process.avs file in AvsP and F5. Does any of them work ?

jan.t posted 2007 Apr 17 11:31

1 I unzipped and inserted/exchanged so that I got all the files in MOV_WAV_files folder. I opened process script and got a green area with black on top and on bottom. 2 Same result. 3 Same result.

Soopafresh posted 2007 Apr 17 11:58

Green? That's a start :lol: I'm at a machine running Windows 2000. I'll test it right now. Every single of of them worked.... If you look at this, every time I hit F5 to show the video, the system goes to these Quicktime files: 1)Uninstall Quicktime 2) Install Quicktime ALTERNATIVE http://www.free-codecs.com/download_soft.php?d=3384&s=66 http://www.free-codecs.com/download_soft.php?d=3382&s=66

jan.t posted 2007 Apr 17 12:13

I downloaded quicktime player 7 and get the sign: "Is a funny thing". When I press play in avsp and select quicktime player 7 to play the script I get: Error -2048: the file is not a movie file. I get this result with all three alternatives. Shall I install quicktime alternative? I hesitate since deleting quicktime player fully is not recommended, it might cause some applications in avid to malfunction. Quicktime Player 4.1.2 is installed together with avid, and I didnt fully uninstall all applications before installing quicktime player 7. Maybe it doesnt matter, but the file extensions .mov and .avs disappears when I unzip them. My quicktime files are played in a jumpy manner in quicktime player 7, sometimes slows in, jumps forward, and so on. 4.1.2 played my qtfiles flawlessly. Maybe an older version of avisynth or avsp compatible with this qt version would do it..

Soopafresh posted 2007 Apr 17 12:26

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jan.t posted 2007 Apr 17 18:26

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Soopafresh posted 2007 Apr 17 18:41

Hmm. That's interesting. I don't want to be the cause of your apps malfunctioning. You could install quicktime Alternative, but specify the installation folder as the same location where regular quicktime was installed before. (does that make sense?). When Quicktime Alternative asks you for installation location, you would specify C:\Program Files\Quicktime NOT C:\Program Files\QuickTime Alternative\ From the quicktime alt documentation: "Q: Can I install QuickTime alternative together with iTunes? A: Yes you can. However you need to install them in the correct order, otherwise it won't work. 1. Uninstall QuickTime Alternative. 2. Install iTunes. It will also install QuickTime. 3. Go to the Windows control panel (a.k.a. configuration) and click on add/remove programs (a.k.a. software). 4. Uninstall QuickTime 5. Install QuickTime Alternative."

msspurlock posted 2007 Apr 17 20:15

Mmmm, yeah. :wink: Quicktime Pro's looking better all the time. :shock:

Soopafresh posted 2007 Apr 17 20:26

Pretty good idea if you want to be safe. Too bad their h264 decoder is crap. One last thing - I found a different version of the Qtsource plugin. Give it a try ? Let me know how it turns out :wink: qtsource.zip Also, before you break out the credit card:

jan.t posted 2007 Apr 18 08:04

I uninstalled Quicktime Player 7 and installed Quicktime Alternative in a folder with the same name as before, Quick Time, in Program Files. I opened the process script and F5. I got the sign "is a funny thing" but when I press play nothing happened. When I move the frame slider frame by frame I can see the background changing. When I move it faster nothing happens. Media Player classic plays my quicktime movie files in the same jumpy manner as Quicktime 7. When I press start it seems like a downloader window flickers for a moment in the toolbar at the bottom. Still positive? :wink:

Soopafresh posted 2007 Apr 18 11:03

jan.t - Try the different Qtsource file I posted above. Yes, that's a really good sign. Try your AkramochHamanScript.avs script next.

jan.t posted 2007 Apr 18 11:35

Which script? I have changed it a couple of times. But I will try them one bye one.

Soopafresh posted 2007 Apr 18 11:37

A=QTInput("F:\MOV_WAV_files\AOHqtmov.mov", color = 2, quality = 100, audio = false, mode = 0, raw = "yuyv", info = 0, dither = 0) B=QTInput("F:\MOV_WAV_files\AOHqtmov2.mov", color = 2, quality = 100, audio = false, mode = 0, raw = "yuyv", info = 0, dither = 0) Combined=A+B Return Combined.Spline36resize(720,576)

jan.t posted 2007 Apr 18 11:52

Well... MY VIDEO IS THERE!! But I can´t play it. Only drag the slider and view every frame for itself.

Soopafresh posted 2007 Apr 18 12:08

That's good ! GREAT ! :D You can play it, BUT you need to install an external player and tell AvsP where it is. I'll post those instructions in a little bit, but now, feed the script to CCE ! Good luck! Edit: Download this, includes mplayer.exe to view the video from AvsP and AVS2AVI, which also is a good little app - let's you encode to Xvid, Divx, etc from within AvsP. http://www.bestsharing.com/files/vwWS2265254/mplayer_nocss.zip.html After you unzip, put them all in the same folder and point to Mplayer.exe and Avs2AVI.exe - doesn't matter where you put them, as long as you specify it in AvsP. The setup screen in AvsP is Options-->Program Settings Remember, AvsP is just an editor to preview your Avisynth scripts (but a pretty good one). Once you're happy with the image in AvsP, save the script with an .AVS extension and load it into your favorite Mpeg encoder or any other program that allows .AVS input.

jan.t posted 2007 Apr 18 14:30

I have encoded the script (the whole movie in mpv!) and viewed it in Nero. I have also viewed the avsscript exactly where the joining was done and it is perfect. I am very very glad.. NO! I FEEL RELIEVED! This was probably the only mov joiner I could ever get to work in an acceptable way. I have been at both the avid forum, doom9.org forum and contacted cce support, searched the web, and NOONE had a solution at hand. Liquid, the creator of dvdauthorgui recommended this place, and.. well, you KNOW you saved my workflow right now! Now, is there a possibility that I can buy you a nice dinner this weekend? (and a beer of course) I will come back with some concluding questions..

jan.t posted 2007 Apr 18 14:32

something is wrong with this page. it doesnt update my posts correctly.

Soopafresh posted 2007 Apr 18 14:36

Thanks for the kind words. Do you know any blonde Swedish women ? :lol: If anything, you can donate to Videohelp.com, and I'll take you up on that beer the next time I'm in Stockholm. jan.t - clean out your cookies from your web browser and log back in.

TheWiz01 posted 2007 May 08 14:57

Great Forum... Hope this topic is not dead. I followed the instructios my first time and got everything to work. I am using Windows Media player as the player and when i hit F5 it shows the merged movies and plays them but with NO SOUND! Just wondering if i missed something to get the sound to work?

Soopafresh posted 2007 May 08 16:13

Try the change below. Your system might be a little underpowered to playback in realtime, especially if that fixes the audio for you.

TheWiz01 posted 2007 May 08 16:43

Thanks you for the quick response.... I changed the settings and tried to view, F5. Media player started and then it errored out Went to Link [/img]http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/player/webhelp/defa ... d=800401F0 Set back to false and it run video but no audio. Any help would be appreciated. Don't think computer is underpowered, dual processor.

Soopafresh posted 2007 May 08 17:21

Whoopsies.... Well, you could try the following, although I've never tested it out. A=QTInput("file1.mov", color = 2, quality = 100, audio = false, mode = 0, raw = "yuyv", info = 0, dither = 0) B=QTInput("File2.mov", color = 2, quality = 100, audio = false, mode = 0, raw = "yuyv", info = 0, dither = 0) video=A+B audio=directshowsource("file1.mov")+directshowsource("file2.mov).killvideo() AudioDub(video,audio) If that doesn't work, you could go back my original suggestion but try a different player that supports .AVS scripts such as Gmplayer http://tirnanog.fate.jp/mirror/mplayer/gmplayer2007.04.02.7z or MPUI (cleaner looking, but slightly slower) http://www.freewarefiles.com/downloads_counter.php?programid=21340

TheWiz01 posted 2007 May 09 12:05

Wohoo, almost there. Scraped out Windows Media Player and downloaded the GMPLAYER. Played and no sound. Switched audio=true and sound. Bad news - sound is not in time with the video. Used the video player settings and still unable to get sound to synch. Any ideas? What is the mode setting after audio? Is there a place to get the commands for AVISYNTH. This is my first time using the program...

Soopafresh posted 2007 May 09 14:47

Oh, so close, yet... :lol: I see you've got low cpu horsepower, so it wouldn't surprise me if the A/V was off. I should say this method of playback would stress just about any processor. BTW, there are tons of better looking skins for that player. Never really liked the default one it comes with.

lindylex posted 2008 Apr 24 13:04

Soopafresh, I have always wanted to know how to edit video with a programming language and not use Adobe Premier and other video editors. They are great applications but require a good bit of resources and like I have never had great hardware. I had recently purchase a point and shoot camera and take lots of video with it. I needed to join the .mov files and I found this post. You have shared the important thing how to setup the development environment. And this can be such a mystery and frustration when you first start to develop. Your great instructions and screen shots you provided have been such a help. There are many forums but this one with you as a functioning member really works. Your screen shot and thorough responses are a clear indicator that you are experienced and knowledgeable. Thanks again if you are ever in North East USA I would love to buy you many drinks. Helpful developers like you come along very infrequently. I just needed to let you know, thanks Lex

Soopafresh posted 2008 Apr 29 15:31

Hey, thanks lex for your kind words :)

sikoone posted 2008 Apr 29 17:31

Try using Mpeg Streamclip

jan.t posted 2008 Jul 24 10:02

I will reinstall and do it from the beginning.

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