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| HOW-TO - CONVERT AVI, OGM or MKV to DVD | ||
| Ecko_Blue posted 2004 Dec 19 04:37 | ||
| HOW-TO - CONVERT AVI, OGM or MKV to DVD
...With Illustrations :) In this guide I will explain how to convert the said file-types to DVD format. There are many possibilities and this is not the only possible way. Throughout the guide I will explain why every tool was used in place of another and offer as many options as I can think of. If you find any mistake or have any questions/comments on this guide please e-mail me at alien_gw@hotmail.com, I will answer as soon as I am able. Now onto the guide. Tools: The following tools are for quick reference only, you will not need them all. They will appear through the guide as they are needed. Other tools appear in the guide as alternatives. MediaInfo VirtualDubMod TMPGEnc Xpress Sony Vegas Besweet AC3Fix Womble MPEG-VCR DVD Menu Studio DVD Maestro Nero Burning ROM ~10GB HDD Space Outline:
----------------------------------------- Section 1 - Separating audio and video streams We will begin by gathering information on the file then separating the subtitle, audio and video streams. Please prepare a pen and paper or open notepad since there is some information that you will be taken here and used later. The reason we will separate the streams is because though our encoding tool, TMPGE Xpress, is excellent for video encoding, it cannot handle many audio formats and often causes sync problems. It is highly recommended to follow this chapter. Step 1 : Gathering information We will be using MediaInfo to get information on the movie file. GSpot may also be used to gather the required info if it’s an AVI file.
Step 2 : Download the required codecs You could skip this step if you have the codecs already installed on your computer. If you don’t then you’ll have to get them from softpedia.com. As a general rule you should not have any codec packs installed on your computer with the exception of the matroska pack. This is not advertising, it’s for your own safety. You want the fewest codecs possible, not the most. Step 3 : Lets’s start! *Don’t overwork your computer! Whether you are demuxing an audio or video stream, or actually encoding something overworking your PC may cause undesirable effects. (ie; Corrupt files.) Be sure after every-step to do a quick test of the beginning and ending of each file. I had 13 to practice with making this guide. I ran into corrupt files 3 times :( We will be using VirtualDubMod to extract the different streams from the container file. There is sometimes a problem where VirtualDubMod doesn’t like MKV files. This doesn’t happen all the time, but it does happen. If that’s your case then follow this guide until step 4.You may also need the matroska pack for it’s decoders.
---------------------------------------- Section 2 - Encode Video Stream We will be using TMPGE Xpress to encode the AVI Video files to m2v video files so that they will be DVD compliant. This can just as easily be done with TMPGE Plus, CCE, MainConcept or another encoder. I have chosen TMPGE Xpress because it offers amazing quality and many options that are not available with the other said encoders, with the exception of TMPGE Plus. Xpress has a more user-friendly approach than Plus does ;) Ready : TMPGE Xpress
This process will take a long time. Go get a coffee or leave it to work overnight. Once the process is done you'll want to test your files ate the beginning, middle and end to be sure they're not corrupt :) --------------------------------------- Section 3 - Encode Audio Stream We'll be making the best out of what we've got and turn whatever stream we were given into AC3. We'll be using BeSweet because it's free and can easily convert wav files to AC3. I'm taking suggestions on better apps for this job, but at the moment I will show how it's done with BeSweet. If your source was AC3 already you'll just have to skip to step 2. **There have been MANY problems using BeSweet to encode to AC3; so many that I can no longer recommend BeSweet for this section. I will soon edit the guide with illustrations to use your choice of Sony Vegas or FFMPEGGui. BeSweet uses the FFMPEGGui engine to output the AC3, so this will first be tested. I only recommend Sony Vegas for this part. (I'm using Sony Vegas+DVD Production Suite 5.0) I will edit the guide by sunday January 23rd, until then email me if BeSweet doesn't work for you. Step 1 : BeSweet
Step 2 : AC3Fix Sadly this app doesn't have a built in Batch function. It is possible to make a bat file in notepad, however I wasn't able to get it to work properly that way. If you could figure a way to do it please let me know and I'll put it in.
*The reason we use AC3Fix is because it will fix bad frames and corrupt sectors and basically test the Ac3 for us. Also BeSweet sometimes has problems making DVD compliant Ac3 audio, AC3Fix fixes that. ------------------------------------------------- Section 4 - Editing Project Now we have everything encoded and transcoded! There are 2 main reasons for this section. Firstly, up to now we have not been able to cut, join or crop parts of the movie due to the effect it would have on the audio/video sync. We will now multiplex and be able to edit the movie as we see fit. ie; removing the intro, commercials and credits. The second reason is because some authoring apps do not accept seperate audio and video streams. We are going to use TMPGE Xpress to multiplex the audio and video and MPEG-VCR to edit it. I know TMPGE Xpress can edit and cut parts out of the video, but MPEG-VCR is just much faster. *The authoring tool I use is DVD Maestro, it requires you to have the files Demultiplexed! If you are following this guide entirely, you will not be needing to Multiplex the audio and video streams (unless there is something you need to edit). Check if your authoring tool can handle individual streams before doing a step you don't need. Step 1 : Multiplexing with TMPGenc Xpress
Step 2 : Editing with MPEG-VCR
----------------------- Section 5 - Authoring & Creating a Menu This is the most custom and creative part of making your own DVDs, in truth; the only fun part. Now you may not want a menu, in that case you need to use a different authoring app and guide. Remember at the beginning I told you to check Doom9.org, well they have guides for a number of authoring apps, click here to see that listing. They have their own guide for DVD Maestro aswell, check that out too. We will be using DVD Maestro to author, and DVD Menu Studio to make the menus. Now, DVD Menu Studio isn't the only choice to make the menus, nor is it the best. It's the easiest. The best is Photoshop CS, if you know how to use Photoshop well, then use that, I will make a note at the end of this section on what is needed. Step 1 : DVD Menu Studio http://www.svcd2dvd.com/Guides/Maestro/MaestroGuide1.aspx http://www.dvd-makers.com/public/department277.cfm
Step 2 - DVD Maestro *SRT files are not accepted by DVD Maestro. Click here to change your SRT subs to an acceptable format.
Now I sincerely recommend that you search for additional information on DVD Maestro as it is capable of much more than what I've just described. This is a basic menu just to get your hands dirty and perhaps interested in learning more. ----------------------------------------- Testing, Roasting and Comments Part 1 - Testing and Roasting Now no matter how professional DVD Maestro is, computers do mess up. You're going to want to test your VIDEO_TS folder or ISO in a DVD Playing app like PowerDVD or WinDVD. VLC is a freeware you could test an ISO on. Make sure the menus go where they're supposed to, the subs show up. The audio is in sync. The right video is with the right audio... etc. After that you're going to burn your project to DVD-R.
Part 2 - Comments I want to say thanks to the suprnovaforums for allowing me to learn and build my interest in DVD converting and production. Doom9.org and Videohelp.com for their wealth of knowledge. easy-answers.com for some new ideas If there are any questions or comments about this guide, feel free to e-mail me at alien_gw@hotmail.com *To any mod or admin, if my chance there are still links or mention to warez in this guide, I apologize. I read through it and removed everything I noticed that was related to such subjects to follow the rules of the forum. | ||
| Cobra posted 2004 Dec 19 05:00 | ||
| Moved to the User Guides forum. :) | ||
| Ecko_Blue posted 2004 Dec 19 05:19 | ||
| Do I submit this guide using this link, or will it be done for me?
I have to drop the img sizes too, sorry. I'll get on that asap. | ||
| dazndan04 posted 2004 Dec 20 01:53 | ||
| was wondering, does it keep the same subtitle font? or will it jus have a random one? | ||
| Ecko_Blue posted 2004 Dec 23 13:17 | ||
| It takes the colors you choose in SRT2SUP. STR2SUP guide. | ||
| gastorgrab posted 2004 Dec 28 09:23 | ||
Media Info set off my firewall, is it spyware?
Its trying to contact "mediaarea.net" (216.194.94.189) | ||
| Ecko_Blue posted 2005 Jan 04 17:35 | ||
| MediaInfo isn't spyware, it's an opensource project hosted on scourgeforce. It may have been looking for updates unless you got from a source other than scourgeforce.
http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/ | ||
| gastorgrab posted 2005 Jan 04 17:50 | ||
| Is there a way to turn it off? | ||
| AVNerd posted 2005 Jan 05 02:54 | ||
| Is there a way to make the movies themselves not get cut off (past the 'TV safe zone') when authoring with DVDmaestro? Ive found I can keep it from happening if I place a black border around the video while encoding, but Ive noticed that my comercial 16:9 DVDs do not have these black borders and they also dont go past the safe zone on my TV. So is there an authoring technique used to prevent this? Thx.
edit: Really helpful guide btw. :wink: | ||
| Ecko_Blue posted 2005 Jan 06 00:23 | ||
| @Gastor; I'm not sure, you could block it with your firewall if you like. It hasn't caused me any problems and my spyware cleaners don't ever touch it.
@AVNerd; Do you mean the menu? In DVD Maestro and DVD Menu Studio both there is a 'safe box' where nothing should be cut from. Keep the main aspects of your menu in there. As for the video itself, it's usually unnoticable unless you have hardcoded subs, in which case you have to play around with the TV settings or add borders as you said. Retail DVDs are also cropped, the TV crops any input. The retail DVD's are made in such a way that you don't lose anything importand. | ||
| AVNerd posted 2005 Jan 06 13:21 | ||
| I just double checked and youre right.... My retail DVDs get cut as well... Thanks Ecko. Your guide helped me a lot!! Hopefully I'll be able to teach people as much as you've taught me some day soon. :D | ||
| Ecko_Blue posted 2005 Jan 12 14:16 | ||
| Just as a note since this happened a few times already, when you email me make sure you leave a return address. Generally I can just hit reply; but I've gotten 3 (Unknown Sender) emails in the last week and I simply dunno how to reply to the email :P | ||
| Hunter85 posted 2005 Feb 07 13:50 | ||
| In section 3 - Step 2 : AC3Fix:
"Run the AC3GUI" What is this one? Where do I get it? | ||
| Ecko_Blue posted 2005 Feb 15 22:27 | ||
| AC3Fix http://www.videohelp.com/tools?tool=91
AC3Fix GUI http://www.videohelp.com/tools?tool=AC3fix_GUI | ||
| shadomic hedgehog posted 2005 Feb 19 23:58 | ||
| I have just a small question. When you get to section 2, step 5. How big can the output size be? That dotted like stopps at 4.2gb, but i have discs that say 4.7 Can I go over that point? Or is it reduced for some reason?
OK Thank you V | ||
| Hunter85 posted 2005 Feb 20 03:11 | ||
| For 4.7 discs it is 4.2 size it should be. Dont know why but thats the way it is. Just keep on going ;) | ||
| Batanen posted 2005 Feb 22 00:16 | ||
| Excellent guide! It's helped me quite a bit....just keep having problems with subtitles, but will figure it out later :)
However, I do have a question. I've got a series that I'm trying to do similar to what you did, but my question about the aspect ratio in the TMPGEnc Xpress 3.0 Clip Info screen. Basically, what is the difference between Pixel 10:11 (NTSC 4:3) and Image 4:3? Is one better to use for video than the other? :oops: Thanks! Batanen | ||
| shadomic hedgehog posted 2005 Feb 23 16:07 | ||
| Ok, I have run into a problem, I got to section 4 step 1, and when i encode it with TMPGEnc, I have two audios, so like... how is this gonna work? Since I can only apply one | ||
| Batanen posted 2005 Feb 23 16:21 | ||
Batanen | ||
| shadomic hedgehog posted 2005 Feb 24 14:38 | ||
| I have an Audio problem now and I think I know where I might have went wrong. OK, When I try to import the audio files to maestro, I get this error message
Media Detection Error (0xc10b0001) Ok, now this is the process my audio went through, and I think I messed it up right at the start. 1) Opened OGM files in virtuadub mod 2) demuxed the 2 audio files, and saved them as ac3. *I think I messed up here, I should haev saved as OGG, and then went to change it to ac3. 3) I couldn't figure out how to turn it to ogg-ac3 in besweet. So I figured I would make it ac3 through virtuadub 4) Then I fixed it up with ac3fix. Im guessing it didnt work, i shouldn't have skipped the step. Is that probably what messed it up? The audio file plays just fine. Maybe I should try one of the other recommended programs for that step, to go ogg-ac3. Or would it be something different, I just noticed the guide says its ok to have a source ac3 file for that step (Section 3). So, any Idea why it didn't work? | ||
| Batanen posted 2005 Mar 01 16:02 | ||
Actually, you should have demuxed the audio and saved as a .wav file, then convert the .wav to .ac3. Also, you may run into a problem with BeSweet. I converted mine using FFMPEGGui and it did a great job! Good luck! Batanen P.S. If you adding subtitles, let me know how they turn out. I'm having a small issue with mine...not turning out like the originals as I'd like. | ||
| Batanen posted 2005 Mar 03 01:22 | ||
| Ran into a slight problem with menus on a couple of compiled DVDs using the guide...if anyone else has a problem importing the menus, here's the 'easy' correct.....
1) Set 'Color Map 4' in all categories to "0" (this will take care of any hilighted background color) 2) Set all colors in the 'Subpicture' category to "0" (this should give you back the original text color) Below is an example of what I had to do with mine.
Batanen | ||
| mme1 posted 2005 Mar 23 22:46 | ||
| Well first I want to thank you for your post. It taught me a lot about OGM and MKV files. A couple of things I did different and I think you will like the ideas. 1- BEFORE seperating audio and video, I use VirtualDubMod to cut my videos. It does a great job on OGM and MKVand AVI files. I even D/Led a plugin for .MOV files but I havent tried it yet. I did the same series you did on your post and cut almost 1gb out. I kept 1 opening, cut the opening off all the rest, cut all the closings except for the last (since the story was still running). That make 1gb less to process and cut the step of multiplexing-cutting-demultiplexing. That sounds like a day or two right there but I dont know. Hmmm, I guess that was #2 different. Also I use ffmpeggui to make my waves to ac3. It seems to do a great job but it doesn't to more than 1 file at a time. If you think I am wrong, feel free to say so, but please explain why.[/url] | ||
| Ecko_Blue posted 2005 Apr 24 23:30 | ||
| mme1; ffmpeggui uses the same engine as BeSweet to encode to AC3. Many people have emailed me that the output from BeSweet was incompatible with either TMPGEnc or DVD Maestro. I use the Sonic Scenarist - AC3 Transcoder or Sony Vegas if I want more control.
I considered doing the cropping with VirtualDubMod at the beginning, however I was unsure of the possible effects if VDubMod wanted to re-write the header for the audio. I haven't tested it yet, but it's a good idea to test. Also, VirtualDubMod has a problem saving OGG as WAV (for me recently anyways), I've used Foobar2000 to convert the OGG to WAV, then Scenarist or Sony Vegas to make the AC3. | ||
| mme1 posted 2005 Apr 30 16:45 | ||
| I have been having problems lately also but going from .mkv to .wav . "AVI MPEG WMV RM to MP3 Converter" seems to do the jobs for me when VirtualDubMod wont. I am sure its a codec problem but havent learned enough on installing new codecs yet to fix it. I will maybe try the Sonic Scenarist and see if I like it better. So far this has been my only problem.
I havent noticed any sync problems or anything like it. The worst is some times the key frame starts in a section of film a few frames before where I try to cut and it goes all the way back to there when I cut. But thats easy to fix when I Author. | ||
| c_a_konopka posted 2005 Jun 06 16:00 | ||
| Ive been using this guide an have got to Section 4, Step 1. I have come to try to add the audio to the mpeg part on step 2 and when i try to add it after using ac3Fix it says "Invalid MPEG Audio Stream" why would this be? | ||
| TheGame7 posted 2005 Jul 26 17:26 | ||
| Superb guide and I am using it to convert television programmes captured using a DV device to DVD.
However, just a couple of questions.. i) You state that on the final screen, for PAL select Progressive (i.e. Deinterlaced). However, my original source goes through a analogue to digital convertor hence it is Interlaced to begin with. Also, most broadcasts here in the UK are interlaced too (and we only expect to go Progressive once HDTV arrives). So, what will selecting Progressive as you suggest achieve? Does the fact that at the Clip Info screen it said Interlaced make a difference to what I should choose here? And if I should choose Progressive as you suggest, should something be changed in the deinterlacing filter? and ii) Is there any huge implications in selecting the Motion Search Estimate to Standard (which is default) opposed to High or Highest because it saves a massive amount of encode time but is the quality loss not worth it? Thanks. TheGame7 | ||
| TheFourthStooge posted 2005 Jul 26 18:11 | ||
| in section 1, step 3 using virtualdubmod i cant create .wav files for the audio streams of my movie because they are .ogg files (vorbis codec). when i press the "save wav" button, it says it can only be demuxed, so i can't extract the files in the right format. can anyone tell me how to get around this (either using virtualdubmod or another program)? | ||
| sirlude posted 2005 Aug 05 21:31 | ||
in virtualdubMOD , go to Streams> right click the ogm audio you want and set to full processing mode > then hit save wav. | ||
| blinkassassin posted 2005 Aug 11 22:54 | ||
| just curious about one of the programs needed to make this work.... like the $5000 one rofl XD | ||
| compuser posted 2005 Aug 16 12:02 | ||
I don't know about other variants of Windows, but with Windows XP, if you copy AC3fix.exe in to the windows directory, you would be able to make a batch file (*.bat) with notepad and have it work with no problem... | ||
| cagalli83 posted 2005 Sep 05 10:42 | ||
| i seem to be having difficulty in the audio part. Here's the situation, i have a video which is XVID and audio is wav. Then in virtualdubmod, i followed the guide. i saved as wav. then i processed the wav file into ac3 using besweet. Then after that, i used ac3fix to fix it. then i import it as a media asset in dvd maestro...but when i try the navigation menu and play the file, there is still no audio.... :(
can someone please help me? i've been trying to do this for a week already..am really desperate... thanks in advance! | ||
| danvx6 posted 2005 Oct 13 05:12 | ||
| DVD Maestro won't accept my ac3 files, it says "Unsupported Media : Invalid Sampling Rate" and then "Media Detection Error". My ac3 file is a stereo 192 kbps file that was run through AC3fix. Can anyone help me? Thanks :) | ||
| Ecko_Blue posted 2005 Oct 26 16:13 | ||
| Man, I forgot all about this guide. DVD Maestro is almost impossible to get 'legally'. If you're using legitimate methods I recommend buying DVDLabPRO and checking out some guides on that, or searching eBay for someone selling DVD Maestro.
I'll see if I can pull together an update for this guide in my spare time. Many people have problems with the subtitles aspect. Other than that only the audio section needs fixing. Comments on what should be added are welcome. I'll see what I can do. *Like I said in the guide, AC3Fix is garbage. Or was last december, I haven't used the app since. From your problems it still can't convert to AC3 correctly. | ||
| ChristianHJW posted 2005 Nov 01 16:02 | ||
| We put up a Guide for DVD creation from MKV files on our homepage :
http://www.matroska.org/technical/guides/dvd/index.html Please send comments and reports to matroska-users AT lists DOT matroska DOT org Christian matroska project admin http://www.matroska.org | ||
| NormaJ posted 2005 Nov 08 11:08 | ||
| Well ChristianHJW, I guess I must be missing something right here. You say that extracting/converting matroska to avi just sucks. And, at the same time, you post a tutorial to convert directly to dvd using an all-in-one crappy software. Also, if the audio track you want to keep is not the first one, you must use mkvmerge to produce another matroska which has the preferred audio track in the first place. Moreso, if subtitles are not in srt format, at the end you must use mkvextract to extract subs and convert to srt. And you may find this does not suck.
In my very very humble opinion, I prefer to extract all the stuff from mkv files into elementary streams, and then work with each of them with the tools of my choice, my favourite video encoder, my audio tools and so on. Best regards | ||
| Enforcer83 posted 2005 Nov 16 21:20 | ||
| How do i work with a mkv file that uses aac as its audio codec and S_Text subs. Virtualdubmod does not like this subtitle format for some reason.
Edit: I tried MKVextract and successfully got rid of the subtitles, but the conversion of the audio files is another matter. iTunes doesn't even like the file. | ||
| ChristianHJW posted 2005 Nov 24 14:41 | ||
and ? | ||
| kirashinn posted 2005 Dec 20 18:37 | ||
| Hey, i just got into authoring and encoding, and i was just wondering. I have some OGM format files I want to encode to DVD (which the guide says how) but i want both audios and subtitles. Any help? | ||
| Bullet2k4 posted 2006 Apr 20 18:21 | ||
| if you have hard subs in the vid you MUST remove it? | ||
| Bullet2k4 posted 2006 Apr 20 18:25 | ||
using mkvextract makes the audio into .aac format.you will have to use a program to convert it to another format that it recognizes it to convert to ac3 format at the end before you encode in TMPG Xpress you can click output preview to see how it looks after.when i play the vid it doesnt cover the whole window.
is it suppose to be like that when you view it from there or do i have letterboxing in the vid? | ||
| yugicho posted 2006 Jun 03 18:40 | ||
| I don't know why, but when i finish the TMPGExpress part and encode the movie part, the movie i created is fine in every way, except that it keeps pausing like every 3 seconds, kind of like it's lagging or something. :bawling: | ||
| Shadowofthedarkgod posted 2007 Jun 12 08:51 | ||
| Hi!
I'm just at the first at the first part (Virtualdub opening the video) and here's the error I got.
Can someone please help me on this? What codec do I need to install for me to enable it to be ran on Virtualdub? Thanks! | ||
| sychern posted 2008 Aug 24 04:26 | ||
| On Step 5, Here you get to play around a bit. Leave the Image resolution to the default highest.
My movie is 640x480 with aspect ratio = 4/3. No letterboxing exist. Should I set Image resolution to 720x480? | ||
| swoosh posted 2008 Sep 19 09:10 | ||
its best to have the extra 300mb spare at the end of the disk as the dvd will run smoother when playing if there is a space between the end of the film and the disk itself. the closer to the end of the disk the data sits while burning, the higher the chance of a miss write or data corruption or just stuff ups in general resulting in another shiny coaster. if you can avoid doing so, i strongly advise it, otherwise choose a higher rate of compression for the film or a lower audio bitrate, to accomodate for this space. |
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