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| How to add your own subtitle to DVD (keep menu, multi-pgc) | ||||
| bluedha posted 2005 Jul 31 19:54 | ||||
| How to add your own subtitle to DVD (keep menu, multi-episode, multi-pgc)
There are already couple of verty good guides made by TheMatrixx and Paddington. But certain program always produced errors for me and I couldn't make it work. So I tried to find my own way to add a subtitle and I found it! If one of the above guides work for you great, but if not, there is still hope. This guide will let you add your own subtitle while keeping the menu structure and it's also compatible with multi-pgc DVDs. Tools you need: 1. Subtitle Workshop 2. Subtitle Tool 3. Subtitle Creator 4. DVDDecrypter 4. PGCDemux 5. Muxman 6. IFOEdit 7. VobBlanker 8. Software DVD player like PowerDVD for previews Note: You'll need a lot of hard disk space for this project, as you'll be keeping at least 3 versions of your DVD (probably 4). So I suggest creating 4 directories: "original", "demuxed", "remuxed", "reauthored" (I'll be referencing them in this guide). For multi-episode that's in separate .VOB's, create subfolers like "ep1", "ep2", etc. in "demuxed" foler and "remuxed" folder, and use the appropriate folder accordingly. 
The guide: 1. Run DVDDecrypter and in File mode, copy everything to the "original" directory. Alternatively, you can use DVDShrink. 2. Run PGCDemux. Click Input IFO's 'Browse' button and open the .IFO file that contains your main movie (usually VTS_01_0.IFO, but could be different). Make sure the domain is 'Titles' and that the length of the movie is correct. Note the PGC # shown here. This is the PGC you'll be working on later. Choose "demuxed" as your output directory. Check 'Demux video stream'. Click on 'Check A/V delay'. If the delay is anything other than '0 ms', write it down, as you'll need this info later. Click on 'Process!' to demuliplex. 
3. a) Now if you downloaded your subtitle and it is not a .srt file, convert it to .srt using Subtitle Workshop. Just open it in Subtitle Workshop and save it as SubRip file. b) If your subtitle is in a different frame rate, then open it in Subtitle Tool and in Change speed tab, choose the template you want and click on Do it. 
c) Also while you are here, goto Check consistency tab and click on Check it! button. Make sure there is no error and all you get are the Info:> lines. 
4. a) Run Subtitle Creator. Goto File->Open text subtitles and choose the subtitle you'd like to add. Goto File->Open IFO and choose the .IFO of the main movie. This will select the right color palette, video format, etc. Do the usual color/font selection and position adjustment. If you want to check if the subtitle will be in sync, goto Synchronize->Load original SUP and open the .sup file in the "demuxed" folder. Then you can compare the time of each line to make sure the subtitle is in sync. 
b) If you want to do a simple synchronization, then you can probably get away with linking the first line and the last line then clicking on Synchronize button. But I prefer to use Subtitle Workshop and use it to add/subtract delays. 
c) Remember that everytime you change your subtitle in any other program, you have to reload it in Subtitle Creator. If you joined more than two subtitles, make sure to check for the synchronization after the join points. If you can get the times difference of less than 300 ms, then you are good. 
d) If you think you have everything ready, then goto File->Save SUP as... and save it in the "demuxed" directory. If you are adding a subtitle to a 16:9 movie AND you want your movie to display subtitles correctly on both 4:3 TV and 16:9 TV, then you need to create two subtitle streams for each format. For 4:3, you don't have to change anything, save it as mysub_lb.sup (lb for letterbox). But for 16:9, change the X: ratio in Stretch in the right pane to .75, and save it as mysub_wide.sup. 5. Run MuxMan. Click on ... button and add your video, audio, and subtitles from the "demuxed" directory. Select ouput folder as "remuxed". If there were any audio delay, put it in here. If you want to keep the original subtitles, load them in the correct order (you can tell the order by the filename: Subpictures_20.sup is the first, Subpictures_21.sup is the second, and so on). If you created 2 streams for a subtitle, add the wide version first and click on wide button. Then for the next stream, add the letterbox version and click on LB button. Make sure that the languages of both streams are the same. If you have just 1 stream, load it and click on both LB and wide. Lastly, goto File->Import Chapter and open CellTimes.txt in the "demuxed" folder. Click on Start. If you get an error, you can try Rejig or IFOEdit to remux, but they can't combine letterbox and wide versions into one stream. 
6. Play the generated file and check if the subtitle displays correctly and in sync. Don't worry about the colors, they will be in correct colors after it's been reauthored. At this point, if you don't want to keep the menu, you can just copy over the color palettes from the original .IFO and burn it. If you want to keep the menu, there are more work to be done. 7. Run VobBlanker. Click Browse of the Input Folder and open the VTS_TS.IFO from the "original" directory. Set output as "reauthored" directory. In the title set, choose the title set that contains your main movie. All the PGC's of that title set will be displayed in the lower table. Click on the main movie (usually PGC 1, but could be different) and click the Replace button. Choose the VTS_01_0.IFO from the "remuxed" directory. For multi-episodes, you need to do this for each episode/vob. Then click on PROCESS!!. A log window pops up to let you know what it is doing. After it's done, close the log and exit. 
8. Play your file, if you have REPLACED one of the original subtitles to your own, then your subtitle will show under the language of the subtitle that you had replaced. If you have ADDED a new subtitle, then it won't show because the .IFO's don't know about the new subtitle stream. So you have to manually edit them. Backing up the .IFO's in "reauthored" folder would be a good idea here. 9. a) Run IFOEdit. Open the VTS_TS.IFO from the "remuxed" directory. Click on VMG_VTS_ATRT, in the lower window, scroll down to the VTS of the main movie (in my case, VTS_1). At the end you'll see the subtitle information. Note the number of sub-pictures. Double click on the newly added subtitle (in my case, Sub-picture stream 2), and note the hex numbers shown. 
b) Open the VTS_TS.IFO from the "reauthored" directory. Go to the same place and modify the values to match the information from remuxed video, by double clicking on the item you want to change. If the number of subtitles were reduced, you can zero out the removed subs. Click on Save button and answer yes when it asks to save .BUP file as well. c) Close and reopen IFOEdit. Open VTS_01_0.IFO from the "remuxed" folder. Click on VTSI_MAT, and in the lower window, scroll down to where subtitle information is shown. Note the properties of the newly added sub. Open the .IFO file that contains the main movie from the "reauthored" folder. Again, goto the same location and modify the values to match the one from "remuxed" by double clicking on the Sub-picture stream attributes. Make sure you also change the Number of sub-picture streams in VTSTT_VOBS to the correct number or your subtitle won't show up! 
d) In the upper window, click on the .IFO from the "remuxed" folder. Double click on VTS_PGCITI, then click on VTS_PGC_1. Scroll down to the subtitle information. Double click on your sub-picture's status. Press Ctrl+C to copy this value. Go back to the .IFO from the "original" folder, to the same location (PGC number might be different!). Double click the sub-picture's status and press Ctrl+V to paste the value. Again, you can put zero to the subtitles that have been removed. Save the file. Finally, play the file now to see if the new subtitle show up. It should show up and in correct color. 
10. Burn it and enjoy! Sorry if this guide seems lacking. Ask questions in this thread and I'll try my best to answer them. | ||||
| dogano posted 2005 Aug 07 08:44 | ||||
| İt's ok but can i've a quest.
I've a dvd includes Eng.Ger.Ned.Por.Esp subtitles, i want to add turkish subtitle instead of spanish so can i display it as "turkish" on the subtitle choosing table when opening dvd. | ||||
| bluedha posted 2005 Aug 11 00:24 | ||||
| All you have to do is open up the .ifo of the main movie in IfoEdit (after you have replaced a subtitle).
You'll see the subtitle information as Subpicture 1, Subpicture 2, etc. There is a flag next to it representing the language of the stream. Double click on the one that has been replaced and change the language to the one you want. | ||||
| GreyDeath posted 2005 Aug 18 14:01 | ||||
| Very Cool Guide Bluedha,
I however didn't use it quite exactly how you intended. I used it to switch out an MPG-1 Layer 2 audio with a Dolby Digital AC3 file. My brother's player wouldn't play the MPG-1 audio without manually switching in the Setup. The problem is probably more on the part of his Home Theater setup than anything, but I was curious if it could be done. Your guide was very useful with the bits about PGCDemux, Muxman and VobBlanker. Thanks! One problem, and I don't want to really hijack your guide thread, but I've found with several programs (PGCDemux, DVD Maestro, Chapter Xtractor) that the Chapter Points are always skewed. Since I was reauthoring a Music Video disc, precise chapter points are a must. As the DVD plays, the chapters start later and later than their intended position. I've found (after hours of trial and error) that this is because the programs base their framerates at 30 fps instead of a truer 29.97! Who the eff of a programmer could miss something like that?? Anyways, I've found that I can take the Cell Times from PGCDemux and multiply them by .999 and the chapters land where I originally intended them to be. I used Excel to make a little calculator and just copied an pasted the results into another txt file. I haven't tried correcting the problem in Chapter Xtractor, but that's next on my list. :) Thanks again Bluedha for the help! :) | ||||
| valescy posted 2005 Aug 23 03:06 | ||||
| excellent guide though i couldn;t make a dvd with the menus yet:) but i did without the menu and add subs quick and easy
my questions is about the av delay you wrote in the guide to write it down and use it later but you are not refering in the guide where the delay is inserted?in the audio delay where the remuxed procedure with muxman? thanks | ||||
| Mystiqq posted 2005 Aug 29 04:48 | ||||
| Step 9, using PGCedit.
You can do the step 9 also inside PGCedit, also its little bit easier i think. I added new subtitle, and in my case PGCedit did work for me and result was identical IFO file to the one done by using IFOedit. Heres what i did: Load the "reauthored" DVD into PGCedit (im using version 0.6.0). In my case, i was editing one title on a episodic DVD disc. Find the title you added the subtitles to, mine was title number 1. Select it from the list on the left and right click to open the menu, choose "Edit PGC" to open the PGC editor. In the editor, go the top-right side of the window (sub-pictures streams box) and find the slot where you added the new subtitle, in my case i already had 2 subtitles before so the new one was added in the 3rd slot in the list. Press the the button to open the “subpic streams setup” window for selected slot. Here i choose the exact same as all the previous subtitles before it had, 4:3 and and stream number set to 2. Press Set button to set the current setup and then press OK in the PGC editor window. Next go to the Macros (top) and then select the “fix number of streams inVMGM/VTSI_MAT tables” located on the bottom of the menu. Next window should be “verify the number of streams” and if everything looks ok, press YES. Now, go back to the same title and open the PGC editor again. Now press the “Current domain streams attributes” button in the bottom-left corner. You should have now “streams attributes” window open and the new added subtitle, in my case subpic number 2, empty. Add the correct “country code” for that subtitle (en for “english” and so on) and press OK. Now you should have the exact same result of the IFO file(s) as you would by using IFOedit program. | ||||
| tonemgub posted 2005 Sep 25 22:15 | ||||
| Thanks man! :) I've been experimenting with different guides to keep menus, etc but add eng subs for my Japanse kaiju DVDs. I came up with my own method which worked perfectly except the chapters feature would not work, but using your method (1-6 only as I just replaced the Japanese subs with eng subs) it worked perfectly the first time, I now have a 1 to 1 backup on dual layer media with eng subtitles. Thanks again! | ||||
| Raganaut posted 2005 Sep 27 14:09 | ||||
| Hi, guide is good so far, but when I used Muxman to remux my movie, it gives me some kind of pop-up error that reads:
Multiplex operation halted Largest GOP of 38 fields exceeds DVD specification of 36. Resulting DVD is non-standard. What's GOP and what happened? I tried playing it with PowerDVD in the remuxed folder and it works perfectly, except for font colours(which is to be expected). I followed the rest of your guide despite the error, and everything went smoothly. I even burned it and it plays okay on my stand-alone player. I somehow see no problems. But I have doubts and am a little nervous, so can someone explain to me what happened in Muxman and why it gave me that error. Thanks. Edit: Oh yeah, and I've tried remuxing it with Rejig too (since it's a NTSC dvd) but the video came out laggy. So so far the best multiplexer for me is Muxman. I've tried others, but I like this the best. :P So if anyone could help me out? | ||||
| David007 posted 2005 Oct 12 12:04 | ||||
| Hello.
This is not the answer, but it's the new question. I wonder, if there is any other program except Muxman, which can combine letterbox and wide versions into one stream. Thanks. | ||||
| misschile posted 2005 Oct 16 19:54 | ||||
| Hi
This is a great guideeeeeeeeee...i was looking for a guide which allow me to replace several episodes of a dvd keeping the menu!...Thanks bluedha! | ||||
| remster_9 posted 2005 Nov 17 06:02 | ||||
| Nice thread. I basically managed to add new subtitles to a DVD I had; however, I cannot seem to synchronize the subtitles with the movie. I got the subtitle files in srt format online, then edited them to synchronize them with the movie by using Subtitle Workshop. After I created sub files from them and remuxed everything, they start off fine but end up completely out of sync (6 seconds differential on the last ones).
I've also tried to synchronize them through Subtitle Creator by using the inner dvd synchronization module, to no avail. Once I open the remuxed DVD copy, they're out of sync, no matter what I do. It's driving me crazy! Any suggestions? | ||||
| iting5 posted 2005 Dec 16 09:34 | ||||
| Hi,
I Started using this guide and it went great until i got to SubtitleCreator... when i try to open my *.srt file i get an error... and it says that line 452 is too long... and i try cutting the line, now he says line 451 is too long... any ideas? | ||||
| juhanes posted 2005 Dec 22 18:56 | ||||
| I had a same problem, then i just opened my subs in subtitle workshop and just save then. After then, everythink works normal.
However, i have problem with some dvd's. Most dvds works for me fine, but some of them i am not able to open them properly in PgcDemux. I mean when i open my VTS_01_0.IFO, the lentgh of movie is only 1 minut or less, when i open other ifos, i am geting diffrents lentghs, like 4, 10, 14 minutes, but no full movie ifo. Why is that happening? And of course: very very nice guide!!!! | ||||
| IronmonkY posted 2005 Dec 29 13:46 | ||||
| Thanks alot for this guide, it's by far the best guide out in my opinion | ||||
| rotavio posted 2006 Jan 02 10:11 | ||||
| I'm trying to insert a new subtitle in a DVD using this guide, but each software I use to remux the vib has a different problem.
It's a R1 Movie DVD, NTSC. When I use MuxMan, I get only the first chapter of the movie, about 4:45 minutes. When I use Rejig I get only few files, smaller than 1 MB!! How can I find out if the movie is 30 or 29,976 FPS? What am I doing wrong? | ||||
| yair24 posted 2006 Jan 08 14:38 | ||||
| hi all i have a problem with SubtitleCreator i put subtitle and i have an error line.... i dont know what to do please help me! the movie is be cool(ntsc) | ||||
| AnitaPeterson posted 2006 Jan 22 21:49 | ||||
| I have another problem.
I have a DVD with only Swedish and Danish subtitles, and I wanted to replace the Swedish with English. In the step 4 of the guide, I followed the "express mode", choosing yellow as the text colour for the subtitles, with a yellow outline and no transparency. Since I wanted to keep the menus and all, and there was a simple subtitle replacement operation, when I reached Step 6 I stopped and previewed the resulting DVD in VLC Media player. Unfortunately, the subtitles show up as "empty" (transparent letters with only a bit of white outline)... I copied the characteristics from the original files, and pasted them in the new DVD, using IfoEdit, but I get the same results... Anyone here who can help? | ||||
| NHUCUT13 posted 2006 Jan 31 22:44 | ||||
Please help me, I can't run subtitlecreator although I reinstall my window xp and only install driver for VGA and driver motherboard meanwhile my friend can run easily on his PC .Absurbly that my PC is better.
I can run every remain software you offer, only not with subtitlecreator Help me!! | ||||
| djblizz posted 2006 Feb 01 10:03 | ||||
| In step 9d you refer to the "original" . But it must be the "Reauthored" folder :)
I figured it out myself but some may have a bad result ;) | ||||
| iting5 posted 2006 Feb 09 17:03 | ||||
I Had the same problem, the solution is simple all you need to do is open SubtitlCreator and go to: "Settings"-->"While loading subtitles", now remove the V from "Remove[hearing impaired text]". Now try to load your subtitles... it should be fine now. | ||||
| iting5 posted 2006 Feb 09 17:07 | ||||
You need to install "Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1" to be able to use SubtitleCreator... you should search for it in Microsoft site its there and its free... if you cant find it, you can contact my on ICQ 122690073, and ill send it to you. | ||||
| tbjerret posted 2006 Feb 10 03:03 | ||||
| Thanks for the guide. Its easy to use.
However, in step 6 you write: "At this point, if you don't want to keep the menu, you can just copy over the color palettes from the original .IFO and burn it." I did succeed in copying over the color palettes, (I can see the codes change and then I save the result) but the subs are almost without color and sligtly red on the edges. Any ideas? Thanks again Troels | ||||
| tmilind posted 2006 Feb 12 02:17 | ||||
| I used this guide and it very useful. However the Muxman version I use i.e. 0.15 standard version , it does not enable me to select subs for LB or Widescreen. The options are disabled. Are they enabled only in advanced versions? | ||||
| manono posted 2006 Feb 12 02:38 | ||||
| Hi-
You only choose LB and Wide when the video is encoded as 16:9. With 4:3 encoding you don't choose them. If your video is 16:9, open the M2V first. Then you choose a sub stream, and then after that you can choose LB and/or Wide. | ||||
| naiera posted 2006 Feb 17 16:06 | ||||
| When I try to use Muxman to mux it all together it says it can't proceed because of excessive bitrate. Is there any way around this? Lowering the video quality is not an option and should not be necessary, seeing as what I'm trying to work with is of course from a normal DVD. The only thing I'm trying to do is add english subtitles to a japanese DVD. | ||||
| wex posted 2006 Feb 17 17:42 | ||||
| This guide ROCKS !!!
THNX bluedha :wink: | ||||
| naiera posted 2006 Feb 20 12:30 | ||||
| There has to be something wrong with Muxman somehow. It won't accept yet another of my DVDs because of "excessive bitrate". Hasn't anyone else had this problem and perhaps found a way to get around it? | ||||
| sfcausa posted 2006 Mar 08 14:14 | ||||
| Hello,
I am new to all or any of this. I have some avi with chinese sub. how do i convert that avi with the chinese sub. i tried using avitodvd as conversion tool. it does not recognize the chinese sub. I also tried using dvixtodvd. Dvixtodvd software has an option for different sub. languages. It did not work either. any advise would be great. Thanks | ||||
| Paddington posted 2006 Apr 26 03:38 | ||||
| Cool guide, Bluedha!
Two suggestions: SubtitleCreator has a DVD wizard in the Tool menu, which uses PgcDemux and Muxman to create a new DVD with the new subtitle in one go, copying the original IFO color palette as well. However, you still need to do something with VobBlanker if you wish to keep the menu (the current option with BatchUpdateIFO doesn't really work). Edited 26-06-2006 My second suggestion is related to VobBlanker: the latest version has been improved a lot, and now it does allow you to copy the color palette, it fixes the VIDEO_TS and other IFO files, such that it is no longer necessary to use IfoEdit at all! An impressive achievement! Title PGCs in IFO section: Check Clear audio/subs status when blanking/stripping Replacing section: Check Fix elapsed time, copy PGC stream control, Copy VTS audio/subs.  | ||||
| sepehr_s posted 2006 May 27 12:49 | ||||
| I wanna watch a movie on Dvd but it doesn't have English Subtitle how can I watch that movie with english subtitle without shrinking or copying it to my hard drive ? | ||||
| kschang posted 2006 May 27 14:42 | ||||
I am afraid the answer is "you don't". | ||||
| REiGN posted 2006 May 29 13:38 | ||||
| Hello Bluedha & Paddington,
I demuxed a dvd, following this guide, and am not able to get this dvd in particular working. The problem is that it works somehow with VBR(AC3 6channel) I think, because when I stripped the vobs with both PGCDemux & VobEdit, i get different starting times from the video & audio (PGCDemux says null delay). So I remuxed the dvd with MuxMan, both the one done by PGCDemux & the one done by VobEdit, that gave both the same result: Audio behind the video. So I did a "full procedure", thinking it could be in the IFO's something was wrong, but the problem stayed after the dvd was "merged" again with the menu's & the IFO mods. The new subs added however, seem to work perfectly in sync with the audio. So if somebody can help me out with this annoying time consuming problem. The weird thing is, that I did multiple dvds with this guide, and they all worked perfect. PS: Settings are all the same like your guide. | ||||
| REiGN posted 2006 May 29 13:42 | ||||
:lol: ....You could always buy it with english subs ...or let somebody else do the De/Re-mux for you :P | ||||
| gmichels posted 2006 Jun 04 14:29 | ||||
| Hi all
I am following this guide and I am having some problems while remuxing the streams. MuxMan will complete the task without any errors, but the resulting VOBs have only one cell with a few minutes, instead of all cells and the entire movie. The size of the VOBs is the expected, only the navigation parameters seems wrong. Here are some screenshots from VobBlanker: Source VTS: 
Source cells: 
Remuxed VTS: 
Remuxed cells: 
The size difference for the remuxed VTS is because the original movie had 3 audios with 6 channels, so I just reencoded 2 audio streams to 2 channels to save space. I am using CellTimes.txt from PGCDemux. If I remux the streams without loading CellTimes.txt, then the resulting VOBs have the correct playing length, but whenever I add more cells, the problem appears. I also tried using ReJig, but it crashes by the end of the subpictures multiplexing process. Any ideas? Thanks | ||||
| kayya posted 2006 Jun 13 10:58 | ||||
| Thanks, this guide is really good.
I have a dvd which has 24 different language. But MuxMan has only 8 track for language input. Can i add or replace a new subtitle without losing them? | ||||
| manono posted 2006 Jun 13 19:48 | ||||
| If you want more subtitle languages than 8, then you have to buy the Muxman Pro version (or whatever it's called). Otherwise, add your replacement sub, and choose 7 other languages you want.
I believe that IFOEdit can author using all 24 of your languages. | ||||
| kayya posted 2006 Jun 14 09:58 | ||||
| Thanks.
One more thing is: I've gotten this warning from VobBlanker when i choose replacement file. Is it normal or will cause a problem about sound? Should i get rid of this warning? If yes, how? | ||||
| manono posted 2006 Jun 14 10:47 | ||||
| Is it normal? Yes, I see it all the time.
Will it cause a problem with the sound? Probably. You may not have any sound until you remap the audio. One way it's caused is that the original audio may have been the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th audio stream. When you author, that audio naturally becomes the 1st audio stream. It can easily be fixed using PGCEdit by Disabling whatever stream number the original audio was, and by Setting or turning on the 1st audio stream. And you're not gmichels from an earlier post who actually reencoded his 6 channel audio down to 2 channels, are you? I'm assuming you're using the original audio. | ||||
| kayya posted 2006 Jun 14 11:11 | ||||
| :)
Many thanks, i'll try it. I'm not gmichels and yes, i'm using the original audio. Btw: I've authored and played it. Then i've seen that it seems no problem with the audio. Windows Media Player and my standalone dvd player can play the movie with sound :) But i'll try reauthor without any warning to make a perfect disk. | ||||
| manono posted 2006 Jun 14 18:36 | ||||
| Oh, so it works? Then I wouldn't worry about the warning. All it's doing is changing the number of channels listed in the IFO. Maybe it was incorrect originally, and VobBlanker fixed it. | ||||
| Paddington posted 2006 Jun 27 03:24 | ||||
In addition, more related to this thread, using VobBlanker, MuxMan and PgcDemux, I can now automate the whole process of adding subtitles using the DVD Authoring Wizard in SubtitleCreator. | ||||
| ih8win posted 2006 Jul 08 11:25 | ||||
| a small question.. is it possible to edit the image in menu/subtitle?
i have English, Spanish, French.. so i wanna add Arabic subtitle instead of one of the three languages, but change it also in the menu to look like: English, Spanish, Arabic. that should include image editing.. but is ti possible to reach that menu image, edit it, save it in the same place of the old one? thanx | ||||
| manono posted 2006 Jul 08 13:08 | ||||
| Hi-
This guide will walk you through doing what you want: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=555936#post555936 I've used it many times with success. I've read that you can do the same thing more easily using DVDRemake Pro, but I don't know. The editing part isn't explained. but I'll assume you can do it on your own. | ||||
| ih8win posted 2006 Jul 23 03:00 | ||||
| hi, i have worked this guide and it did work perfect with me... until.. i reached to "Annapolis".. it doesnt show the numper of Audio Delay.. just shows the audio and as cutted.. so i cant see the number.. though in other DVD's it shows fine... i have noth NTSC and PAL original DVD's and they do the same... and, today, i've got "Eight Below".. and its the same also, doesnt show the numbers for Audio deplay, so when i finish the movie, there a big difference between the Audio and the video..
any one had this problem?? | ||||
| ih8win posted 2006 Aug 09 08:38 | ||||
| hi again... i guess every one now knows how to add subtitle and keep the menu, so maybe no one get to this page and read whats new.. but i hope theres some who still email watching this topic...
so.. heres my question... i just got Final Destination 3 that has 2 versions of the movie in it, the theatrical version, and choose their fate version, which puts you in control and decide who lives and who dies (?).. plus, this is notenough to be compicated.. it has 2 angles!! i started wokring with it to put my own subtitle... but the muxman gives an error during remuxing and stops.. also the DVD wezard in subtitle workshop finishes as its done.. but the result is the same as in muxman, same files same size half job done.. so what to do?? how to bypass this problem?! any one got into it before?! thanx another thing.. in the PgcDemux, after i choose the IFO for the DVD and in the popup i chosse the PGC # , i saw like four PGC's with almost same movie length, and they all gives the same number os cells and for the 1st time i see that i can choose Agnle 1 or 2 from the lower popup.... cheers :) | ||||
| hofverberg posted 2006 Aug 10 23:59 | ||||
| I would like to thank for this great guide - it's been very useful.
I have one question though: How exactly do you do to add subtitles to a multi-PGC title, I e an episodic DVD with episodes in multiple PGCs in the same VTS? The guide only mentioned the cases where each episode is in a different VTS (VOB)... | ||||
| sa-ka posted 2006 Aug 19 03:25 | ||||
| Thanks for this guide.
It works. I added a subtitle with this guide and I edited Menu with dvdremake. but I have a guestion that suffer me. after step 7 (vobblanker) When Play dvd with windvd 6. slider bar is not selectable. so we cannot go forward or backward. subtitle that added play good with windvd but in standalone dvdplayer (Sony) subtitles are completely in blackbar behinde the move. Please help me. | ||||
| manono posted 2006 Aug 19 03:34 | ||||
| Hi-
but in standalone dvdplayer (Sony) subtitles are completely in blackbar behinde the move. Do you mean the subtitles are below the movie? If so, DVDSubEdit is your friend: http://www.videohelp.com/~DVDSubEdit/UserManual/helpfile.htm Section 2.7 explains how to raise the subtitles, and section 2.1 explains how to apply and save the changes for all the subtitles. Or maybe I've completely misunderstood. | ||||
| sa-ka posted 2006 Aug 19 04:14 | ||||
| thank manono for quick reply. I meaned below. But what can I do with slide bar In windvd. | ||||
| manono posted 2006 Aug 19 04:27 | ||||
| Hehe, I didn't answer that one because I don't know the answer. It isn't a problem using a standalone, so I don't worry about it.
Bamana Khoda. | ||||
| Sapientum posted 2006 Aug 27 14:02 | ||||
| I can't get my audio to match the video when I put them together with muxman... even though PgcDemux said that there was no delay..
What could be the problem? | ||||
| manono posted 2006 Aug 27 22:40 | ||||
| Hi-
What could be the problem? Perhaps a funky decrypt. There's nothing to prevent you from determining the delay and then setting it in Muxman, though. If it's greater than 300 ms (the limit for Muxman), use Delay Cut to fix it. | ||||
| Sapientum posted 2006 Aug 28 04:09 | ||||
What's the best way to determine how big the delay is? Because there must be an easier way than guessing ;) | ||||
| manono posted 2006 Aug 28 04:52 | ||||
| Hi-
To find the delay, open a vob in Media Player Classic. Right-click the screen and go Options->Filter->Audio Switcher->check the "audio time shift" box, and fill in an estimate of the amount of asynch. Hit "Apply" and test it out. Negative values are to make the audio play earlier. 1000 ms= 1 second. Resume playback. Adjust until you get it right. At that point you'll know how much the audio is out of synch and how much to set the delay in Muxman or Delay Cut. | ||||
| ih8win posted 2006 Sep 03 14:33 | ||||
| hello, another thing i faced during subtitlting with new Sony movies, like Basic Institct 2, RV..
i am facing a problem with MuxMan that keeps getting an error at the end of its work. and testing the result dvd showes it wont work, if u keep going on to VobBlanker, it will give another error at the end, and the result wont include the subtitle i added.. kept trying for days searching the internet, but couldnt find a solution.. the only thing i figured, that if i dont import the chapters in MuxMan, then it will work fine till the end and to VObBlanker, and the DVD will show the result with the subtitle i added with menus with everything.. but... no chapters... have to watch the movie from the beggining to the end as one piece.. and that sucks! any one faced this thing before? or anyone have a solution? | ||||
| manono posted 2006 Sep 03 21:42 | ||||
| Hi-
i am facing a problem with MuxMan that keeps getting an error at the end of its work. Maybe it would help if you said what the error was. You can find the Muxman log in the root of the C drive. I think I know what your error is, but I refuse to guess. Also, if you decrypted these new DVDs you mentioned using RipIt4Me in the first place, the chances are very good you wouldn't have these synch problems. | ||||
| ih8win posted 2006 Sep 05 04:43 | ||||
done that... didnt help either.. this problem i faced in: Final Destination3, Basic Instinct2, RV, Scary Movie 4, Sentinel.. and i guess they all a Sony made.. they will only work if i dont import the chapters in MuxMan.. and the error that muxman reports attached as an image to this msg... [/img]  | ||||
| manono posted 2006 Sep 05 05:14 | ||||
| When you see that message, delete the last cell in the Celltimes.txt and mux again.
To keep that sort of thing from happening in the future, open the LogFile.txt and find the total frames line: Total Number of Frames=263170 Then open the Celltimes.txt file. If the last frame number listed in the Celltimes.txt file is within 30 frames or so of the total number of frames in the LogFile.txt, delete it. When replacing using VobBlanker, it'll throw a warning which you can safely ignore. And I apologize for the RipIt4Me and the asynch audio remark from before. I was thinking of the previous poster who was having problems with asynch audio. | ||||
| ih8win posted 2006 Sep 05 08:19 | ||||
| hello again manono..
tried your last post on "The Sentinel".. deleted the last row of cell number from "Celltimes.txt".. muxed it.. muxman didnt report the error mentioned before, but the result didnt work... even though, i kept going with VobBlanker, the result ran the menu.. but playing the movie will get you back to menu.. also checked the celltimes.txt last cell with Total Number of Frames in logFile.txt, it was like this: Total Number of Frames=194251 (in LogFile.txt) last row for celltime= 194236 (in CellTimes.txt so still to make it work i had to do it without importing the celltimes.. | ||||
| manono posted 2006 Sep 05 08:51 | ||||
| Hi-
but the result didnt work Are you saying that the Muxman authored DVD (before replacing in VobBlanker) didn't work? I was only answering about your Muxman error. I'm not responsible for it not working, as I have no idea what went on before then. However, I have heard of a couple of instances of Muxman not working, but authoring in IFOEdit did work. You might try that next. It takes the same assets in the same formats as does Muxman. To author, go DVD Author->Author New DVD up at the top. Total Number of Frames=194251 (in LogFile.txt) last row for celltime= 194236 (in CellTimes.txt Yes, that's a good example where checking before authoring, and deleting the last Celltimes.txt frame number, will save you from a muxing error. | ||||
| ih8win posted 2006 Sep 05 18:01 | ||||
| true, it did save me the Muxman error, but still the DVD result after muxing will not work, usually this is what i do, test the result and see if it works after muxing or not..
Authoring in IFOEdit? i donno how to do that, all i did was follow the guide here.. should i used IFOEdit after MuxMan? or after PGCDemux? Thanx for being patient and helpfull manono :) | ||||
| manono posted 2006 Sep 05 21:29 | ||||
| Hi-
If you're going to author with IFOEdit, then you do it instead of using Muxman. Just load the video, audio, celltimes.txt, and subs into IFOEdit, just as you did using Muxman. I don't quite understand what you mean when you say it won't work. If Muxman completed without error, then you should have a working DVD to test. Where did the video come from?Demuxed, or reencoded? Does that M2V play OK by itself? How are you playing the Muxman authored DVD? PowerDVD or some such? And what exactly happens (or doesn't happen) when you try and play the DVD (the DVD, and not a VOB)? Any error message? Have you tried other software DVD players? Does this have something to do with the subtitles? After muxing/authoring, you're using a real software DVD player aren't you, instead of just playing the VOBs? You're opening IFOs and not VOBS? And these subs are in SUP format? How did you create these SUP format subs? | ||||
| juhanes posted 2006 Sep 20 17:32 | ||||
| Hello.
This guide works just fine, but now i want to add subtitle to PRison BReak, which have 4 episodes on dvd, and when i use pgcdemux there are for diffrent files to demux, i have no clue what to do, anyone can help? Thank You | ||||
| manono posted 2006 Sep 20 18:07 | ||||
| Hi-
If you don't know how to find out in advance what's in the different PGCs (Hint: the Preview in VobBlanker or PGCEdit), then demux them one at a time. Keep the ones you want, and delete the ones you don't. You said it's Prison Break with 4 episodes, right? So, there should be 4 episodes, either all under different IFOs, or all under the same IFO (check the dropdown box after opening an IFO). Look for 4 episodes, each somewhere around 45 minutes in length. The rest of the stuff is logos and extras. | ||||
| ih8win posted 2006 Sep 20 18:15 | ||||
| manono you amazing :) ... im raizing a hat for you, you reply fast and looks like you know what you doing ;)
btw, i didnt try yet what u adviced about my problem, ill try it soon and tell you what will happen.. just wanted to thank you for the effort and the help you give :) | ||||
| manono posted 2006 Sep 20 18:31 | ||||
| Thanks, ih8win. Hehe, sometimes I know what I'm doing. Sometimes I just fake it. juhanes' problem sounds kind of easy. Frankly, yours has me baffled, but if I didn't confuse you too much with my last response, maybe we can get it sorted out. I do a lot of subs-on-DVD work, so I get a lot of practice.
However, I may have misinterpreted juhanes' problem. If you found the 4 episodes, juhanes, demux all 4, remux (author using Muxman) with the 4 different new subtitles, and replace 4 episodes using the "Replace" button in VobBlanker. It's just like adding a sub to a movie, except you have 4 different "movies". | ||||
| Deaf Raiders posted 2006 Sep 21 17:57 | ||||
| How can i join two sup? files | ||||
| manono posted 2006 Sep 21 18:20 | ||||
| As far as I know, you can't. But you can join IDX/SUB files using the VobSub Joiner that comes in the VobSub package. To convert SUP to IDX/SUB, get the program and follow the instructions (DOS, with no GUI yet, unfortunately):
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=111664 I used it to convert from SUP to IDX/SUB the other day, and it works fine. Then after they're joined up again, use SubToSup to convert back to SUP files. | ||||
| juhanes posted 2006 Sep 23 10:43 | ||||
| Thank you, manono for your help. You are really good guy. The problem was truelly kind of easy, but i would never think of that by myself. I have whole season I. of prison break now on dvd and subtitles work like a charm.
But now i run into another problem. I am trying to add subtitles to Lost and when use pgcdemux, there is now audio delay, there is just "none" for audio, and when i compile DVD, my audio is out of synch :S Any idea how to fix? Thank you again. Bye. Edit: oh, i am sorry, i didnt know, i'll try to play a little with audio delay in muxman... | ||||
| manono posted 2006 Sep 23 11:54 | ||||
| source: Lost.S02.NTSC.DVDR-WATDVD
You're not supposed to mention illegally downloaded files here. You may get scolded, or this thread may get locked. I don't know, but don't do it again. Fixing audio asynch can be tricky. You first have to determine the amount of the asynch, and then in Muxman you have to set the delay (only up to 300 ms allowed by Muxman). Or you can fix the delay using Delay Cut. But you have to figure out what it is first. This is a subtitle guide thread, and your question is outside the scope of the guide. | ||||
| juhanes posted 2006 Sep 25 05:31 | ||||
| Hi!
As soon as i fixed that delay issue, i run into another error again. It seems it's not a big deal, because DVD if working well, but i am asking anyway, because maybe somethink could be wrong now, and dvd wont play on some DVD players, or somethink.  | ||||
| manono posted 2006 Sep 25 06:43 | ||||
| Yeah, that's not good. Is this for NTSC? If so, you maybe didn't take into account pulldown. In the future, lower the GOP size if encoding for NTSC 23.976fps progressive with pulldown. I don't think you said which encoder you use. In CCE, you set N/M to 4 when encoding for 23.976fps progressive with pulldown. TMPGEnc does it differently, but you want to set it for 12 frames. Someone else can advise you on that if you respond saying you're using TMPGEnc. | ||||
| juhanes posted 2006 Sep 25 09:37 | ||||
| No, no encoders, i am geting this error at the end of muxing with muxman and yes its NTSC. | ||||
| manono posted 2006 Sep 25 10:11 | ||||
| Oh, you didn't reencode? Then ignore it, I guess. Or maybe try authoring with IFOEdit (DVD Author->Author New DVD, at the top). It takes the assets in the same format as does Muxman. But if it's on the original DVD like that, and you're not reencoding, I guess there's not much you can do. | ||||
| Stuggy posted 2006 Sep 26 00:16 | ||||
Here is the answer to that question, posted by r0lZ @ doom9: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=107679&highlight=windvd+slider
I had the same problem and when I unticked those in VobBlankers settins, the dvd navigation slider worked in WinDVD :)  | ||||
| manono posted 2006 Sep 26 00:59 | ||||
| Hi-
I wish you'd posted that yesterday, when I had one like that. I couldn't seek in PowerDVD. Like I said in my reply to sa-ka, I didn't know the answer, but didn't worry about it, as it doesn't affect playback in a standalone. Thanks, and I'll test it out the next time I have one like that. | ||||
| impulse_16 posted 2006 Sep 28 14:21 | ||||
| hey guys im having a problem trying to install "Subtitle Creator" when i run the setup file, ti gives me an error saying : ".Net runtime library is not installed", what can i do? i downloaded the file from the link given in this website...its called "Setup_SubtitleCreator_V2_0_6.exe".
Plz help | ||||
| Deaf Raiders posted 2006 Sep 28 14:58 | ||||
| u need to install .NET framework u can get it here install .NET Framework Version 2.0 Redistributable Package | ||||
| impulse_16 posted 2006 Sep 28 19:31 | ||||
| thanks, well i just used rejig and problem solved...the thing is that my final vob doesnt show subtitles at all....any idea of what to do?.
one other thing, i tried to compile a file using dvdlabpro and it says this : "Open GOP'S were detected in file, in your encoder always select close GOP'S to avoid such problems" what can i do? i dont remember any option that was called like that | ||||
| impulse_16 posted 2006 Oct 05 17:31 | ||||
| hey here is my question, i converted some avi files to dvd...my source file didnt have any subtitle...now i have the vob files, the ifos. and the bup.....i wonder...can i use this method to work with the vob file that i have, and add the subtitles....and if i have to do something extra..since there where no subtitles before....thanks | ||||
| manono posted 2006 Oct 05 20:44 | ||||
| You'll have to have the subs in SUP format, but to add them to an already existing DVD, demux (PGCDemux), add the subs, and reauthor (ReJig, IFOEdit, Muxman). If this DVD has a menu, then use the Replace button of VobBlanker to get the new DVD with subs back into the old DVD with a menu but no subs. You'll also have to use PGCEdit and the method I explained in the other thread to turn on the new subs when all done (if replacing). You can also change the colors and set the language the same way (using PGCEdit). | ||||
| sepehr_s posted 2006 Oct 13 07:32 | ||||
| how Can I understand a film rate or ripping format of a movie clip ? | ||||
| Polysics posted 2006 Oct 13 17:04 | ||||
| Thanks a lot for posting this guide :)
I have a problem with step 7 (vobblanker) though: I am trying to put subtitles on a multi-pgc episodic dvd... I followed everything in the guide and it worked perfectly until i had to use vobblanker. After replacing the ifo's for the appropriate PGC's and I press progress it gives the folowing error: 'VTS 01: Replacing PGC 01 by M:\remuxed\PGC1\VTS_01_0.IFO Cells to be replaced =14. Cells in replacing VOB=14 VTS 01: Replacing PGC 02 by M:\remuxed\ep1\VTS_01_0.IFO Cells to be replaced =0. Cells in replacing VOB=5 Error: Cell not found' I'd be grateful if someone could help me with this issue ^^ | ||||
| manono posted 2006 Oct 13 21:17 | ||||
| Hi Polysics-
It looks as if the original PGC2 has no cells, and your remuxed one has 5 cells. Therefore it looks to me like you're replacing the wrong PGC, that is, your replacing PGC doesn't belong in the original DVD VTS 01 PGC2. Check to make sure you have the correct VTS and PGC to be replaced. sepehr_s, Chitour hastid? Please try and rephrase your question, as I (and maybe others) don't understand it. how Can I understand a film rate PAL DVD and AVI is 25fps. NTSC DVD is 29.97fps, and AVI maybe either 29.97fps or 23.976fps. If you're asking how you can tell which you have, PAL or NTSC, maybe GSpot can tell you. ...ripping format of a movie clip ? Are you asking about a video file you have? The extension will tell you. Or open it in GSpot. | ||||
| Polysics posted 2006 Oct 14 06:12 | ||||
| @manono: I'm pretty sure I'm replacing the correct PGC.
Here's a screenshot of vobblanker: 
As you can see in the screenshot vobblanker says that the original PGC #2 has 5 cells. Still when I click process it gives the following error: VTS 01: Replacing PGC 02 by M:\remuxed\ep1\VTS_01_0.IFO Cells to be replaced =0. Cells in replacing VOB=5 Error: Cell not found A bit strange as the screenshot says the original PGC does have 5 cells. | ||||
| manono posted 2006 Oct 14 06:57 | ||||
| Nope, that's an empty PGC. You'll notice that the lengths of PGCs 2, 3, and 4 added together total the same as the length of PGC1. You'll also notice that they have no size. Since you already replaced VTS1 PGC1 (the entire 135 minute video) which includes your PGC2, then why would you want to add in a part of it again?
You'll notice that under "Reuse" it says "Yes" for PGCs 2, 3, and 4. Rather than stick them into the DVD for a second time, they use them from the PGC1. All you have to replace is PGC1, and then you're done with VTS1. It looks to me as if you have an episodic DVD with a "Play All" and a play separately feature. Or something similar. I was wrong about the reason you can't replace it, but you still can't replace it. You should be happy. You can now use the extra space for improving the quality of the movie (or episodes), or for including an extra or 2. Thanks for providing the pic, which makes the situation clear. | ||||
| sepehr_s posted 2006 Oct 14 07:21 | ||||
Thanks for helping | ||||
| Polysics posted 2006 Oct 14 15:17 | ||||
That was a pretty easy solution ^^ Thanks for helping! Finally got it to work :D Edit: hmm... there's still a problem though. The subtitles will only show up when i press the play all button on the menu. If i choose the episode in the episode menu, there are no subtitles wich can be selected. This is probably because the episodes on the episode menu are in PGC2, 3 and 4. And i didn't replace those because i get an error when i do that... Guess ill have to find a way around that. Edit2: I found the solution: I edited the subtitle info for pgc2 3 and 4 and now it works :) | ||||
| manono posted 2006 Oct 14 23:33 | ||||
| Hi-
I was going to suggest turning on the subs for PGCs 2, 3, and 4, until I read your final line: Edit2: I found the solution: I edited the subtitle info for pgc2 3 and 4 and now it works Good going, and you figured it out yourself. A successful backup, you learned something(s), and you can attack similar projects in the future with confidence. | ||||
| SiMed posted 2006 Oct 17 09:58 | ||||
| hi all
i'm new here and i hope to get some help for my probleme : I find this guide and I was very to be able to add foreign subs to my dvds , the probleme is I cant treat arabic subs , I downloaded some .srt from the net when I open them with wordpad the words are like this "ÍÜÜÓÜÜíÜÜä ÈÜÜßÜÜÑ" and when i open them with Win Word i get a option to convert the file then i choose 'to arabic (windows)' and here are the subtitles correcly written in arabic, but in subtitle creator and subtitle tool they look like "ÍÜÜÓÜÜíÜÜä ÈÜÜßÜÜÑ " and it drives me crazy , nothing to do any help please ? thans | ||||
| kschang posted 2006 Oct 17 12:22 | ||||
| I am assuming that your version of Windows is ALREADY Arabic-enabled? | ||||
| SiMed posted 2006 Oct 17 18:02 | ||||
| my windows is french with arabic so i can write arabic in wordpad winword and even in notepad | ||||
| dudule posted 2006 Oct 23 05:24 | ||||
| Hi there !
I am just new in this forum, and I read this thread with interest but I couldn't find the answer I am needing... :( Here is my problem : I have a US DVD of a several TV episodes (4). I got the french subtitles of those episodes (4 files : *.idx + *.sub that I converted into *.srt files), and I'd like to replace the english subs with the french ones while keeping the rest of the DVD untouched. What I don't understand is that I only have one VOB (VTS_02_x.VOB) containing the 4 eps. When I demuxed, using VOBEdit or PGCDemux, I obtained only one videostream. So my question is : should I join my 4 *.srt files before I try to remux everything ? If so, How can I make sure the timing will be good ? Or is there a way to demux the 4 eps into 4 different videostreams and check the timing, before remuxing everything together ? Well, I don't know if I'm being very clear :) but I hope someone could help me :D PS : I am kind of a newbie in DVDauthoring, and french, so sorry for my bad english :roll: | ||||
| n4p1 posted 2006 Oct 30 06:06 | ||||
I have that same problem like a "dudule". I have remuxed vob files (ep1, ep2, ep3, ep4) with my custom subtitles and they works fine in vlc. VobBlanker looks like this:
Now when I try repleace PGC#3,4,5,6 with ep1,2,3,4/VTS_01_0.IFO all compilation have 2x more space :/. What I need to do for make this works with untouched menu? Thanks for any help. | ||||
| manono posted 2006 Oct 30 08:16 | ||||
| Yeah, you've got problems, n4p1, as does dudule if his is the same way. What do you see if you highlight PGC 1 and hit the "Cells" button in that pic? If you see only 4 cells, then you're OK, and you can replace each cell with an episode. But typically each episode will be divided into several cells/chapters, and cells won't correspond to complete episodes. And you can't "Replace" PGCs 3, 4, 5, and 6 either.
I'm afraid your only recourse is to merge the 4 subtitle tracks into 1. As dudule mentions, the hardest part is to merge them and make sure they're in synch with the audio and video. What I do when faced with similar problems is to make an AVI from the whole thing, mux the audio, and that way I can test out my joined subtitle track more easily, before then continuing with the DVD authoring. Maybe there's an easier and faster way that someone else can suggest. You do have something in your favor, and that is PGCs 3, 4, 5, and 6 telling you the exact length of each episode. Each sub track has to have the sum total of the previous episodes added to its starting time when merged. Understand? The timings for episode 1 are left alone, episode 2 has 41:53:05 added to it, episode 3 has 1:24:13:18 added to it, etc. With luck, you may not have to make an AVI to test it out, but just make the merged sub track, author, and hope for the best. | ||||
| n4p1 posted 2006 Oct 30 11:57 | ||||
| Ok, so the one posibility is merge subs and make only one vob from PGC#1. I think about that, but first I wanted ask if there is any easys posibility ;).
Thx for guide how to merge subs but I know how to do it ;p. cheers and sorry for my bad english. | ||||
| AlanHK posted 2006 Oct 30 12:20 | ||||
I'd convert the VOB to MPEG and cut that into the 4 separate episodes (using MPEG2VCR, eg), then reauthor, combining with your subtitle files. This should be lossless, VOB is already MPEG2. You should check sync of the subtitles with a tool like Subtitle Workshop. Quite likely your video will be off from the subs. Use MPEG2VCR to demux if necessary for authoring. You'll lose the fancy menu if there was one; I make similar DVDs with guiforDVDauthor, paste in a screenshot or promo image as background for the menu. You can set chapter points within each episode, and even make an image menu for that. I just set 9 points evenly spaced and add one at the end of the opening credits. | ||||
| n4p1 posted 2006 Oct 30 13:04 | ||||
| I have 4 separate eps with custom subs, everything works, I can write it on dvd and play in standalone player and everythink works. But i need orginal menu, I just want have that same DVD+my custom subs ;). Now I trying this solution with merge subs, tomorow I write If that works fine. | ||||
| n4p1 posted 2006 Oct 31 00:22 | ||||
| Merge subs solution is ok, everythinks working with orginal menu. Now Im trying add button in menu with my custom subs ... I try DvdReMake. I change bacground, add button, add command, export dvd, burn and menu dosent shown :/. Can someone give me a link to working guide with add button, change background in menu? I search alot and cant find, thx. | ||||
| ih8win posted 2006 Nov 05 09:44 | ||||
| hi again, back to my problems, i've managed to solve some, thanx to manono ;) and some i figured out after many tries..
1st, i had a problem with PgcDemux and not beign able to see the audio delay for Sony made DVD's, after testing it with mplayerc.exe and figuring out what is the delay is, i found that its 300ms for all the sony DVD's i tested, DaVinci Code, Monster House.. 2nd, a new thing came up after syncing the audio with the video... now the subtitle out of sync... so testing came out with delaying the subtitles from SubtitleCreator.exe for -51800 got them all working back again.. 3nd, something weird happens to the menu afterward, with DaVinci Code, for example, my subtitle is number 2 in the remote, but in the menu its number 3.. this has never happend with any other DVD. 4th, and this is what i couldnt figure out alone and i needed some help :-D ... its with Monster House, after i demuxed the menu VOB and rejoined the files into one VOB again after editing the menu BMP (which i have done this many times with other DVD's perfectly).. the menu keeps showing another pic that is the original pic of the DVD and not the one i have edited to place my own sub.. opening the demuxed VOB with DGIndex shows the BMP i edited and saved and remuxed, playing the VOB with VLC blinks the edited BMP and remain to the original image that i cant really figure where its reading it from... i've opened all the demxed vob from the main VOB.. but none got that image.... any ideas???? thanx | ||||
| manono posted 2006 Nov 05 11:41 | ||||
| Hi-
the menu keeps showing another pic that is the original pic of the DVD and not the one i have edited to place my own sub.. Hehe, spooky, eh? You replaced the original with your edited one, but when you go to that menu when playing the DVD, it shows the original? Yet, when you check out the various menus in DGIndex, there's your edited one? I'd say there's more than one of that original menu in the DVD, and you only edited and replaced one of them. Open your "final" DVD in VobBlanker and select the menu, and check them all one by one at the cell level. Check every single cell. I'll bet there's your edited one, and at least one more of the original unedited one. It's not uncommon to have more than one of the same menu pic in the DVD. | ||||
| ih8win posted 2006 Nov 05 12:46 | ||||
| yes, that what happens... "but"... if i open the same mini VOB file ia VLC.. it shows the original pic.. when its in other folder the the same original DVD, so theres no link with other VOBs, and een before joining back the mini VOB files, into the big one menu VOB file.. and i have trible check all the mini vob files for the hidden original pic... nothing..
i am sure that somewhere inside the mini VOB file, theres a hidden layer or something like that to keep showing the original pic.. but donno how to reach it.. | ||||
| manono posted 2006 Nov 05 23:05 | ||||
| Which is why I said to check all the menu cells in VobBlanker. If all you check is the PGC for each menu, you might not spot it. It's not unusual for there to be 2 or more cells in the same menu PGC. VobBlanker (and even PGCEdit if you know how) can show you the unedited but otherwise identical cells. | ||||
| lodge posted 2006 Nov 06 02:46 | ||||
| I have a problem after finish all the steps. Here are my steps.
1. I have a DVD has 7 episodes on 7 different PCG files. This DVD has NO subtitle. 2. Follow the guide to demux, create SUP, remux to 7 VOBs. 3. Use VobBlanker to replace original 7 VOBs with the reauthored 7 VOBs 4. Burn DVD. The problem is I cannot enable subtitle on DVD Player (Sony Playstation 2), which said there's no subtile on the DVD. Neither on Windows Media Player. But I CAN enable subtitle properly on Media Player Classic. I'm wondering if the problem was caused by there NO subtitle in original DVD. Is there anything special at this scenario? Any advice? thx | ||||
| manono posted 2006 Nov 06 05:35 | ||||
| Hi-
I'm wondering if the problem was caused by there NO subtitle in original DVD. Yes, that's why. You have to "turn on" the subtitle before you can use it. Open the final DVD in PGCEdit, double-click on the movie in the left window, turn on the first sub (which will be # 0) by opening it and "Set". OK your way out to the main window. Find the green reel of film icon along the top row of icons and click on it. It's going to give you a message about the number of sub streams changing and offer to fix it. . "Yes", Save, and Test. | ||||
| lodge posted 2006 Nov 06 09:47 | ||||
| Great! It works fine. Thank you sooooooo much manono! | ||||
| manono posted 2006 Nov 06 12:13 | ||||
| You're welcome, lodge. Enjoy your movie with the new subtitle.
By the way, I forgot to mention, after clicking on the green reel of film and hitting "Yes", you can set the language for your sub (zh if for a Chinese language). Then after saving, when testing it out, you'll see the language listed, instead of just Subtitle 1, or something like that. Maybe you noticed that when in that new window. | ||||
| impulse_16 posted 2006 Nov 09 15:09 | ||||
| hey guys i need help..im having problems right from the start...here is the thing:
I copied all the files in the dvd to the hard drive using DVDecrypter as u guys sayd...everything is ok.... the problem is this... to view the dvd files I Use Power Dvd..if i run the dvd by autorun using power dvd, i can see the original subtitles of the dvd with no problems...BUT...when i open manually a single file...or even select them all and add them to a play list , i cant see the subtitles...not even from the dvd...anyone knows how to use power dvd in order to see the subtitles? or can you give me another program to view the dvds..since i need to preview the files in order to see if the subtiles are sync once i add them | ||||
| manono posted 2006 Nov 09 19:51 | ||||
| BUT...when i open manually a single file...or even select them all and add them to a play list , i cant see the subtitles...
You don't get subs when playing the Vobs. You have to play the DVD. You have to open the IFO. In my old Version 4 of PowerDVD, I "Open DVD File On Hard Disk Drive" and scroll to an IFO - any IFO - on the DVD. | ||||
| impulse_16 posted 2006 Nov 10 10:59 | ||||
| ok..now i can see the subtitles from the "original" folder...time to complete the process...im sure ill have some more problems hehe, good to know i have help here, thanks.
-------------several hours later--------------- ok...i have another problem hehe...instead of postin a new reply i just edited my last one...here is the thing: when i get to step 5..and i run muxman...the program crashes...so i tried with rejig...and the whole process goes the right way...the thing is that when i check my "redemuxed" folrder..all i have are really really small files...like 650kb files and stuff...what im i doing wrong?...can you help me?, and also send me plz a link with muxman, cuz I downloaded it again from this site, and still crashes...thanks | ||||
| impulse_16 posted 2006 Nov 10 19:28 | ||||
| i used ifoedit and it worked...but then i have another problem..here it goes:
im trying to add some subtitles to a 3 episodes dvd i have....now..as u could see in my previous post, i couldnt use muxman...and rejig just gave me small files...i used ifoedit and it worked...when i preview the first episode on power dvd..the subtitles show....now here is the thing.... my first episode is in the files vts_01_1.vob and vts_01_2.vob, that means their ifo files is vts_01_0.ifo ...great....the problem is..that the second episode (and i dont know why) is in vts_01_3.vob and vts_01_4.vob.....the first step of this guide is to browse the .ifo file of the main movie...but how can i do this? if the ifo file for episode 2 is the same as episode 1.... and when i did the whole process browsing vts_01_0.ifo, it worked only with the 2 files of the first episode...no sing of the second episode...plz help.... | ||||
| manono posted 2006 Nov 10 21:41 | ||||
| They might be in the same VTS, but most likely they're in different PGCs. What are you trying to do, demux the episodes from the DVD? If so, try PGCDemux. | ||||
| impulse_16 posted 2006 Nov 11 06:18 | ||||
| not from the dvd, but from my "original folder"... how do i know in which pgc is my second epi |