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How To Add Subtitles to a DVD. (THE COMPLETE WORKING GUIDE).

TheMatrixx posted 2004 May 01 21:38

Hello all, I have just released a brand new guide on how to add subtitles to a DVD.
So here it is:

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Watch now the MOVIE TUTORIAL on How to Add Subtitles to a DVD using DVD-lab PRO !
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DVD Subtitle Guide using DVD-lab PRO

***3 Steps Guide***

This guide brings new things, like support for SRT and SUB subtitles or SSA, SON and SST.
And more easy on use by the beginers on DVD Authoring world.
I must to thank all the users on my forum for supporting me and understanding me.
Please join my forum for more support and if you need help, ofcourse ;-)

Software used:

1. DVD Decrypter - (for demuxing video, audio, subtitles and chapters form the DVD)
2. DVD-lab PRO - (for multiplexing video, audio and subtitles)
3. Ifo Update - (for updating the original IFO fles, let them know about the new info in the VOB files)

Create 3 folders on a partition with more then 20 Gb of free space. NTFS partition is needed for DVD movies over 4 Gb.

STEP 1 - DVD Decrypter

a). Insert in the DVD-ROM the disc on which you want to add a subtitle. If you have an DVD Image on the HardDrive mount it first with Daemon Tools. Open DVD Decrypter, go to Tools menu and then press "Settings" and after that press "IFO Mode" tab and set the parameters like in the image below.

After you have set everything as in the image above, press OK and go to "Mode" menu and select "IFO I".In this moment the software will automatically choose the main film in order to demux it.

b). In the right side, press "Stream Processing " tab and check "Enable Stream Processing" and at the bottom of the window select "Demux" like in the image below.

Now select all the lines in the Stream Processing window, one by one, (ONLY THE ONES YOU WANT OR NEED) and select for each one the Demux option.

c). Select the files destination, in our case "Demuxed DVD" . Press the button

and the program will start its work. After it finishes, close DVD Decrypter.

STEP 2 - Multiplexing video, audio and subtitles with DVD-lab PRO.

a). Open DVD-lab PRO and on the window that appears select like in the image below, the option "Simple (Movie Only)". Don't forget to chose the NTSC or PAL option as is your original DVD movie and hit OK.

b). In the lower left part of the screen, in the big white section, right click and chose "Import..." and import one by one, your VIDEO file and AUDIO file(s).

c.) Right click one by one the each line in the big white section where you just imported the video and audio files, and chose "Insert to Project...".

The Video and Audio will be automaticaly inserted on the MOVIE 1 window (right upper part of the screen).

d). Right click on the Chapters section (right above the Video section) in the MOVIE 1 zone and go to Chapters->Import Chapters...
A windows will appear, just hit "Proceed" button and the chapters will be imported automaticaly to the movie. (Hit OK to all the windows that appear).

e). Double click the Sub 1 line and a new window will appear.
First you must chose the subtitle language...

Second you must click on the Import button and open the subtitle file (you have 5 formats to chose from: SUB, SRT, SSA, SON, SST).

Optional:

1. You can chose the font color (White or Yellow).
2. You can chose the font face. (I suggest using a Arial font face).
3. You can chose the font size. (I suggest using a 22 size font).
4. You can chose the font style. (I suggest using Thick Outline style).

If you have an NTSC disc I suggest to check the "From DF source" option for perfect syncronization. (You can do some test yourself and see if you have perfect syncronization).

You can view the changes in the Preview window !
After your are done hit the "Generate Subtitle Stream" button and wait for the process to finish...it will automaticaly return to the main window after it's done.

Now you can see your subtitle line added automaticaly.
If you want a subtitle to appear automaticaly on the movie when you start the movie, just select the "Set this Subtitle always ON by default" option.

f). Go to "Project" -> Compile DVD...

In the window that will appear chose the path to the Final DVD folder and hit Start.
Wait untill the whole process finishes. About 15-20 minutes on a AMD 2.0 Ghz machine with 512 DDR.

STEP 3 - Update the original IFO files.

a). Copy from the DVD-ROM in "Original DVD" folder all the files of the disc with DVD Decrypter in File Mode.

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WARNING ! - Before moving the *.vob files over the original ones rename them (e g: let's suppose that on the original disc the movie is situated in the VTS_03_1.VOB, VTS_03_2.VOB, VTS_03_3.VOB etc... files . You will have to rename the VOB files from the "Final DVD" folder to their original names.)
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b). Select the main movie *.VOB files from the "Final DVD" folder (ex " VTS_01_1.VOB, VTS_01_2.V OB, VTS_01_3.VOB, VTS_01_4.VOB etc) that contain the movie, !ONLY AFTER YOU HAVE CORRECTLY RENAMED THEM!, and move them (Cut and Paste) in the "Original DVD" folder overwriting the old ones .

c). Open IfoUpdate and go to "Options" menu and select as in the image below.

d). Now you will have to insert the IFO files.
- On "Original IFO Path" choose the corresponding IFO file from "Original DVD" folder (eg:if the movie is situated in the VTS_03_1.VOB, VTS_03_2.VOB, VTS_03_3.VOB etc files, you will have to open VTS_03_0.IFO in IfoUpdate)
- On "Authored IFO Path" choose from "Final DVD" folder VTS_01_0.IFO file.
- On "Backup IFO Path" choose where to save a backup of the original file just in case you make a mistake. Press "Update IFO" and 2 windows will appear and click OK.

Now the new DVD with your prefered subtitle is ready for burning on a DVD±R/DVD±RW.

Guide made by TheMatrix

TheMatrixx posted 2004 May 01 22:49

Please test the guide and post here if you have problems, or you get stuck somewhere. I will try to help you. :D

(02/04/04) - Today I replaced all the images, with new ones in english for better results ! Enjoy.

kazik1 posted 2004 May 02 20:47

Good guide Matrix.
it works fine but only with ReJig. If i author with IFOEdit it sucks. It cuts off my movie (makes it shorter). I work on NTSC source but sometimes on PAL too. This can be IFOedit bug or what? Does anyone have the same problem like me?

TheMatrixx posted 2004 May 02 21:05

DO NOT use Rejig to multiplex PAL DVD :!: and DO NOT use IfoEdit to multiplex NTSC DVD :!:

Use Rejig ONLY for NTSC DVD and IfoEdit ONLY for PAL DVD, like in the guide.

Yes IfoEdit has a bug with NTSC DVD. And Rejig has the same bug with PAL DVD :D

kinza2000 posted 2004 May 03 01:49

Does this guide prevent original menu structure?

tarpot posted 2004 May 03 05:30

Can some tell me how you get the subtitles into subtitle workshop in the first place? I've looked around in the guides and this is not explained. What have I missed? Where do the subtitles come from?
Thanks-a-lot

TheMatrixx posted 2004 May 03 07:31

For kinza2000 : YES ! If you follow this guide, the result will be exactly like the Original DVD that you want to add the extra subtitle (only the has an extra subtitle :D ).
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For tarpot : Look for a guide ...on How to modify the subtitles with Subtitle Workshop. You will find subtitles on specific sites like (www.divxsubtitles.net, www.subtitles.cz).

Mabey I will make a guide about how to modify and adjust subtitles with Subtitle Workshop :D ....but I think that there are some guides on the internet regarding that.

glauber_herbert posted 2004 May 03 08:18

Hi.
I´m trying to follow this guide, and I have 1 question:
When I strip the full movie , i have 2 files called VTS_01_MENU_1.vob and VTS_02_MENU_1.vob, that i think it´s the MENU File.
Following this guide, all the Original Menus are preserved??
If not, how can i insert new subtitles, but presenving the Original Menus??

Thankx

TheMatrixx posted 2004 May 03 10:41

glauber_herbert : As I said to kinza2000, following this guide will preserved the original menus, YES ...you will have the original menus on the final result :!:

:!: I repeat :!: : FOLLOWING THIS GUIDE WILL RESULT IN A DVD WITH THE ORIGINAL MENUS, ORIGINAL EXTRAS, ORIGINAL MOVIE, ORIGINAL SUBTITLES and THE NEW SUBTITLE (in your language) YOU WILL ADD TO THE DISC !

About the VTS_01_MENU_1.vob and VTS_02_MENU_1.vob, what did you use to rip the original DVD ? I recomended in the guide DVD Shrink.
Please give me some more details.

glauber_herbert posted 2004 May 03 10:45

I use to rip the DVD Shrink, in file mode.
But this DVD is a DVD that i downloaded from internet.
There´s some difference?

Thanx in Advance

TheMatrixx posted 2004 May 03 11:44

Can you give me a screenshot of the original DVD content ? (with all the files)....on e-mail. And I will try to help you...I didn't have that problem on any of the DVD I used.

tkamin posted 2004 May 03 12:17

I was in the middle of writing the exact same guide!!!
only i play around a little more with the sub colors in supremap, and I've never encountered a bug with ntsc in ifoedit? have compiled several so far with no problems... ?

TheMatrixx posted 2004 May 03 13:03

tkamin : This guide was made from 3 weeks ago, but in another language (as I said at the begining of the guide). And tested with succes by many users on other forums, and I wanted to give this guide to the whole world. Because there are many, many, many more guides on the internet about this subject, but none is working perfect.

About the IfoEdit with NTSC error, it's very good if you have no errors with it. In our tests, the result of the multiplex with IfoEdit for NTSC DVD was very bad, the movie is playing like this : 1 second play/1 second freez ...1 second play/1 second freez ...end so on...you can't wach it !

Mabey you finish the guide and post it, but will be no diference, if you use another program for multiplex, if the result is the same (I mean a PERFECT DVD) :D

Gregg posted 2004 May 03 14:39

The guide is good and uses only free software. Personally I prefer Maestro - it's easier and faster. If you have it...
For this guide to be perfect however you need to add how to reauthor the subtitle language selection menu in order to include a selection for the new subtitles /although you can select them by pressing the Subtitles button on the remote/.
Keep the good work going!

panoplos posted 2004 May 04 01:55

I try following the guide but when I try to play the movie when I press to go in menu it stops.

TheMatrixx posted 2004 May 04 07:43

Yes Gregg : that is the final logical step to a perfect DVD ! But, I don't know how to do that :( Mabey I will discover some time in the future, or someone else will make some guide about that :D

For panoplos and glauber_herbert : I will write you in the email, some technical problems regarding Finding Nemo DVD ! Many haved problems with it.

bigofir2 posted 2004 May 05 10:14

TheMatrixx you made a good job. Very good and useful guide!
I tried another guide and your guide is the best! All done succesful!

But I want to ask you something. I have the Out Of Time movie.
The movie (1:45h) is in the VTS_02_0.vob till VTS_02_5.vob .
When I ReAuthor the DVD, the files automaticlly renamed to VTS_01_0.vob till VTS_01_5.vob .
Now when I am trying to play the DVD after I overwrite the new files to the origina RIP that I made with DVD-Shrink, It's not work because the new IFO and the new .vob's files are renamed !

What can I do to prevent this unlike rename ?
Sorry about my English..I will be improve soon.. :wink:
Thank you for your job and for your GREAT guide!!!
BiGOFiR

TheMatrixx posted 2004 May 05 11:27

Hi bigofir2, first I made the guide for me, for my movies :D , but just like you, I saw many guides about this subject on the Internet and none was good, no menus, no extras...and other errors.

And I wanted to share the guide with the world :D

About your problem, looks like you are lucky :D , during tests on the guide I had an NTSC DVD and the movie was at VOB 9...(VTS_09_0.VOB). I didn't modified the guide for this, because there are so few DVD's like this, in most of them the movie starts from VTS_01_0.VOB.

So, in this case you will have to replace in the guide VTS_01_0.VOB with your movie (VTS_02_0.VOB).
Exemple : When you demux, you will open VTS_02_0.VOB, so after demux, when you multiplex you will have VTS_02_0.m2v...and so on...and at STEP 5 section c) when you make Vob Extras (ReAuthor) it
should work fine, start with the last IFO and end with the first. Look at the progress of Vob Extras like in IMAGE 12, and see if the file name at Writing destination VOB is exactly like Reading source VOB file (LOOK AT ALL 5 VOB's !).

Tell more details about the problem. And if you can it will be very good to make some screenshots, when you demux, multiplex, reauthor...and at Vob Extract. Please send them to email. (thematrix @ go.ro).

Thank you for using the guide and tell your friends about it :D

panoplos posted 2004 May 06 04:38

I found some subtitles in the internet. I open the file in Subtitle Workshop and I put the first time the first subtitle shown and the last and adjust the subs. But when I finish the importing and all like the guide the subtitles delay 4 seconds. In the Subtitle Workshop I can see that the subs is in the right time.
Whats wrong?

bigofir2 posted 2004 May 06 07:39

The Matrixx, I want to ask you something... :!:
Like I said in this topic, I want to burn the Out Of Time movie.
The movie length is 1 hour and 45 minutes.
The movie is NTSC and when I Demux the movie I got .m2v movie file that his length is 1 hour and 11 minutes. The Demux process was done in VobEdit like in the wounderful guide that you create.
Whats wrong?
This is very big problem because the subtitle synchronized to 1:45 and not to 1:11 !

Please help me.. :x :x
You are the BEST !
Thank you for all!
BiGOFiR

bigofir2 posted 2004 May 06 07:42

Of course after I do all like the guide and I success, I will make screenshot! I don't want to do now because I didn't succed to make the new DVD.. :cry:

joelson posted 2004 May 06 07:54

Does this tutorial work with a DVD that has NO subtitles yet, and I want to add the first one? If it's possible, how can I do that? :shock:

KeepWalking posted 2004 May 06 09:40

My question is about step 5 item a):

"a) We'll cut (move) from the "Final DVD" folder the .vob files that contain the movie (e.g. VTS_1_1.VOB, VTS_1_2.VOB, VTS_1_3.VOB, VTS_1_4.VOB etc) and paste them over the ones in the "Original DVD" folder. Then erase the .ifo and .bup files left in the "Final DVD" folder, so that is remains empty."

The files generated by Ejig in the "Original DVD" folder are:
VIDEO_TS.BUP
VIDEO_TS.IFO

VTS_01_0.BUP
VTS_01_0.IFO

VTS_01_0.VOB
VTS_01_1.VOB
VTS_01_2.VOB
VTS_01_3.VOB

What exactly the files that I need to replace in "dvd original folder"?

Only the .vobs?? Only .vobs and vts_01_0.bub and .ifo? Everything include video_ts.bup and .ifo?

TheMatrixx posted 2004 May 06 09:44

For bigofir2 : For your first problem, when you multiplex the movie that starts at VTS_02_0.VOB with IfoEdit...I found 2 hours ago a DVD just like yours (Jurassic Park 2), with movie at VTS_02_0.VOB 'till VTS_02_3.VOB...so the answer to your question is this :

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THIS IS FOR ALL WHO MAKE THIS GUIDE ! : A BUG in IfoEdit and Rejig when you multiplex a movie that starts at other VOB than VTS_01_0.VOB...like VTS_02_0.VOB or VTS_05_0.VOB...etc...after
multiplex IfoEdit will change the name to VTS_01_0.VOB ! Simply you will rename the files exatly like the original files and continue with the guide ! The result will be OK !
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I think this is not realy a bug, I think the author of IfoEdit made it like that, probably when the user renames the files like...video.m2v and audio.ac3...the result of multiplex will be automaticaly VTS_01_0.VOB. But for my guide this is a BUG ! :D

For your second problem with the lenght of the movie, please see if you have more than 12Gb before you multiplex the movie !
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For joelson : Yes it works ! You will make your subtitle like in the guide (STEP 2) and you will rename it to VTS_01_0.20.VOB if your VOB movie files start from VTS_01_0.VOB. Try this and tell me if it works.

KeepWalking posted 2004 May 06 09:54

My problem is similar to the one of the BiGOFiR, but still I have some doubts.

I will try to explain better what it happens:
My film is in the VTS_04_0.vob archives till VTS_04_3.vob.

When rejig mux the archives and saved they in folder "Final DVD" the program automatically rename it for VTS_01_0.vob till VTS_01_3.vob

Can I rename for VTS_04_0.vob till VTS_04_3.vob before copies them for "Original DVD" folder?

This goes to cause some problem later?

TheMatrixx posted 2004 May 06 09:55

YES KeepWalking ONLY the VOB files of the movie. DO NOT REPLACE the IFO or BUP files.

You said "The files generated by Ejig in the "Original DVD" folder are:" ... look at STEP 4 - Multiplexing the files from STEP 3 .... "After that, you'll choose where you want it to save the final movie ("Final DVD" folder)" and look at the IMAGE 7 also, you will see that you have to put the result of the multiplex in Final DVD folder, and than at STEP 5 section a) you will take the VOB movie files (NOT IFO or BUP) and paste them into Original DVD folder, when ask if you want to replace hit YES !

TheMatrixx posted 2004 May 06 10:01

YES you can see my post for bigofir2's problem ! It looks like Rejig has the same problem of renaming the files.

:!: RENAME them before you replace it with the ones in the Original DVD folder :!:

KeepWalking posted 2004 May 06 10:05

TheMatrixx :

YES you can see me post for bigofir2's problem ! It looks like Rejig has the same problem of renaming the files.

:!: RENAME them before you replace it with the ones in the Original DVD folder :!:

Ok Matrix, thanks for help in my 2 questions, and GREAT guide!!!

Finally I can do it. Great results and great tutorial. Congratulations

bigofir2 posted 2004 May 06 10:37

Hi The Matrixx !
What's up?

I have 15GB of space.. It's not the reason of my problem..
I don't know why but my final length film is 1:11 and the original RIP is 1:45.

Can you think about another reason for my problem ?
Thank you!
Your'e the BEST! :wink:

TheMatrixx posted 2004 May 06 10:54

Hi bigofir2, it's all gooood :D

Sorry I didn't see that your problem is at Demuxing in STEP 3.
Damn :evil: isn't that nasty ? I will try to help you...first...look carefully in VobEdit...you will have to Open VTS_02_0.VOB file...second, look at the progress and see if it process all the files (VTS_02_1.VOB, VTS_02_2.VOB, VTS_02_3.VOB, VTS_02_4.VOB and VTS_02_5.VOB).

Let me know what you did.

joelson posted 2004 May 06 12:56

Matrix,

You wrote "you will rename it VTS_01_0.20.VOB if your VOB movie files start from VTS_01_0.VOB". Didn't you mean to rename to VTS_01_0.20.SUP???

I had already tried to do that, and it didn't work out! :tellme:

How come?

TheMatrixx posted 2004 May 06 13:07

joelson I'm sorry, "You will make your subtitle like in the guide (STEP 2) and you will rename it to VTS_01_0.20.VOB if your VOB movie files start from VTS_01_0.VOB."

I will write you an email soon.

bigofir2 posted 2004 May 06 15:27

Hi TheMatrixx !!

Yes! VobEdit Demux all the VOB's files (total 5 vob's)!
Also when I open the m2v file in PowerDVD, It's all O.K,
the whole movie shown..but the length of the movie still 1:11 and I don't see that the FPS changes..stay in 29.976..

B.RGRDS,
BiGOFiR

panoplos posted 2004 May 07 03:33

I have just demux Gothika and I put all together with Rejig. When I play it from PowerDvd the subs are not sychrinized and the sound is the sound of the menu or the commentary I thing.

TheMatrixx posted 2004 May 07 08:52

bigofir2 : OK, did you finish the guide ? Mabey at the end the movie will be 1:45 (i doubt it)....try to sync. the subtitle at 1:11 than and see if it is OK. Do what I said to panplos with SubRip...rip one of the original subtitle of the movie and compare it with yours.

You say the whole movie shown ? This is very curious (try and look if it realy is the whole movie).
I never stoped at .m2v file and look at it. I made the guide from the STEP 1 to STEP 6 without stoping anywhere. And I added 'till now subtitle in my language to 15 movies ! :D

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panoplos : I know many of you have problems with sync. of the subtitle, but in STEP 2 I give some tips how to do that. I will give again some tips :

This works for me !!!
After you sync. the subtitle in Subtitle Workshop with my metod in STEP 2 (look when the first dialog appears in the movie, and note the time, and do the same with the last dialog of the movie), you insert the subtitle in Subtitle Workshop (don't forget the FPS) and hit CTRL+B...a new window will appear and there enter the first and the last time of the dialogs and hit Adjust. Save and close. Now rip a subtitle of the movie (let's say english) with SubRip (look for a guide on how to do that) and than compare the times of the ripped subtitle with the one that you sync. (look at the first time....last time...and in the middle of the subtitle at 2-3 different dialogs...if thay are the same you can do the next steps.

Another method...when you sync, the subtitle, open Media Player Classic...and open the first VOB file of the movie, than when the movie starts go to File menu and than to Load Subtitle (CTRL+L) and load the subtitle, look if it is sync. !

About the sound...if you are not sure what are the sounds of the movie and in what order you have to enter them in Rejig or IfoEdit...played them after Demux (STEP 3) in Media Player Classic...after you wrote somewhere the sounds (exemple : VTS_01_0.80.ac3 - is english 5.1, VTS_01_0.81.ac3 - is english director's commentary...and so on !) you can do STEP 4 - Multiplex.
A simple way is to enter the sounds in Rejig or IfoEdit when you multiplex by order (VTS_01_0.80.ac3, VTS_01_0.81.ac3, VTS_01_0.82.ac3 and so on...).
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I will try right now to look for your subtitles and sync. it for both of you. And send me your subtitles in email. I will sync. your subtitles and I will give you some extra tips & trick for the future. Because I will not always be here :(

panoplos posted 2004 May 08 06:58

I rip the english sub from Big Fish to compare with mine. The last one start at 02:00:02,169 but when you see the movie it start at 01:59:52,000, is 10 second diferent.
I will like to ask you something in IFOEdit you can see the FPS of the movie. For example the Big Fish is NTSC 30 FPS. In Subtitle Workshop I have to choose the Input FPS and the FPS like the movie?
The problem I have with Big Fish is that after 25 min until the end of the movie the subs start to shown 3-4 seconds before the voice.
Thank you.

TheMatrixx posted 2004 May 08 08:29

panoplos : I saw the subtitles and are different, they have to be the same. This time I will make it for you, and I will told you what I did to make them the same. In Subtitle Workshop you will have to choose Input FPS as is the subtitle you found...and FPS as is the movie....(exemple: Let's say you find a subtitle at 25 FPS, before you insert the subtitle in Subtitle Workshop you will put on Input FPS the value of 25, and after you load the subtitle you will put FPS at 30 (NOT Input FPS, OK?). And look at the times, if they are not corect hit CTRL+B and in the window that pop's up you insert the first and last time as it is in the original subtitle that you rip with SubRip from the DVD disc, and press Adjust !

If the time codes are not corect after you do that, try searching for another subtitle. And look carefully when it starts to delay !

If this isn't working either you will have to translate in Subtitle Workshop the english subtitle in greek step by step....it will take about 2 hours :(
I did this to 3 of my movies, because the subtitle was OK at the begining for about 20 minutes, and then it starts to delay...and after 1 hour it's back to normal ...and at the end of movie is OK again....damn I hate when that happens :evil:

TheMatrixx posted 2004 May 08 12:04

panoplos : I don't know if you recived the email, because it was returnd with Failure ! And I put the attach here !

See if it is ok, look at the screenshots. If it's not ok, then you will have to make a translation in Subtitle Workshop (the hard way) :(

Open Subtitle Workshop Load the english subtitle, and then go to Edit > Translation > Translator mode and then go to File > Load > Translated and you will have to take each row at a time and see if it's OK....till the end of the subtitle :(

bigofir2 posted 2004 May 08 13:28

Hi TheMatrixx !

What's up man? all good?

Do You remember that my DVD (full movie 1:45m) is 5 VOB's ?
Okay. Listen to this..
I Demux the movie to "Demux DVD". I got the m2v file (3.98GB),
ac3 files(the English 5.1 Surround is 337MB), and sup files.
I told you, I don't know what's going on with the m2v file..!
The DVD original length is 1:45m and the m2v is 1:11m. both of them are 29.97FPS so something here wrong..! Maybe the ReJig skip on chapter..,
but when I open the m2v file I see the MGM lion logo and in the end the end subtitles of the movie..!

I didn't make something with it so I continue with the guide like u said and I ReAuthour the DVD. Now I got only 3 VOB's! (in the original RIP I have 5!)..I have two VOB's 0.99GB and the last one is 273MB . :x :x :cry:

I didn't cut the new VOB's to the original rip like told in one step..I just want to test the ReJig output.
When I open the VTS_02_0.IFO file with PowerDVD the movie began not from the start. I search the scene in the ORIGINAL RIP and the scense that seen in the begining of the ReAuthour DVD was in chapter 19 at 56:37m!!
ReJig cuts almost 1 hour! :cry:
What's the problem?!
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But something good done. the subtitle colors and the font looks good!
The subtitle isn't synchronized because the movie isn't full length!

Waiting for your answer TheMatrixx..
B.RGRDS
BiGOFiR

TheMatrixx posted 2004 May 08 13:54

Hi bigofir2 all good here,

ok I understand what's the problem, I will try to look for an answer to this. Until then I want you to try the guide with another DVD disc ! Ok ? And tell me if it's all good. :D

Please let me know how many Gb you have after STEP 3 on your HDD. I know you said you have 15 Gb. But before you start to multiplex with Rejig you will need to have on your HDD at least 12 GB.

DAMN :!: DO YOU HAVE NTFS OR FAT PARTITION ON YOUR HDD :?: I just saw the m2v file is 3.98 Gb, IT PROBABLY STOPED THERE CAUSE YOU HAVE FAT32 PARTITION ON YOUR HDD :!:

bigofir2 posted 2004 May 08 15:44

Yes! I have FAT32 on my drive D: ..
Okay I understand.. I have Partition Magic 8.. I will use it now to convert it to NTFS :!:
And yes I have 13 GB on my hard drive BEFORE multiplexing.

Also I will try another movie..
Thanks for all and I will update you!
:wink: Thank you! :wink:

bigofir2 posted 2004 May 09 02:24

Hi TheMatrixx what's going on ?

I converted the file system to NTFS.
I multiplexd the movie with ReJig and I got 3 Vob's files and there isn't the whole movie..

My DVDRiP is in C:\OUT_OF_TIME_SE in NTFS.
MY Demuxed DVD is in D:\DVD\Demuxed DVD in NTFS.
My Final DVD is in D:\DVD\Final DVD in NTFS.

All the drivers are NTFS but the original DVD is in C:\ and the Demuxed DVD and the Final DVD are in drive D:\ .

Thank you.

maikel posted 2004 May 09 13:54

Hi,

thank you for the guide. I just followed it to add Dutch subtitles to Kill Bill - Volume 1.
I removed all subtitles (I don't speak Japanese of Korean :) ) and placed the Dutch subtitles as the first one (VTS_01_0.20.sup).

When I finished everything, I found the chapters started at the wrong time. I.E. the chapter started just in the middle of a scene!

I replaced the IFO- and BUP-file with the ones from the 'Original DVD'-folder and the chapters worked right again.
Does anyone know what could be the cause of the wrong timings and how I can solve these problems (now I haven't finished step 5)?

Another problem is when I play the movie on a stand-alone DVD player, the subtitles won't show up.
When I play the DVD on my PC everything works just fine.
What can be wrong with it?
Does this have anything to do with step 5?

I also changed the subtitle-colors (step 5b) right after saving the sup-file (step 2b). That way I didn't have to go through step 5b (and maybe 5c??).

bigofir2 posted 2004 May 09 14:40

Hi again TheMatrixx !

I convert the drive partition to NTFS and the m2v file that I got is 3.98GB.
I am going to trip for two days so I won't be here ;) .

I think I leave this sucks movie!! All wrong! I will try another movie !!
Thanks for all and if I have some questions, I hope you can answer me later.

Thank you TheMatrixx!
You're good man!

srt2sup posted 2004 May 09 14:55

Hi The Matrixx,

I have spotted a problem in the guide.

In the colours section of Srt2Sup you use the colour black twice for background and outline,

This will cause the outline to be transparent because of a bug in Srt2Sup.

To prevent this set the background colour to say blue or red and this problem will not happen!

Regards

Srt2Sup

panoplos posted 2004 May 09 17:42

Hi The Matrixx,
I will like to ask you about the final step that you import all the IFO files except the video_ts if is nessesary because I try without this step and the movie works fine. There is any reason for this step? And I notice when I do this step the mb of the movie are less.
Thank you in advance.

TheMatrixx posted 2004 May 10 16:05

IMPORTANT: IF YOU WANT OUTLINE TO SUBTITLES, SET IN SRT2SUP, FISRT COLOR (BACKGROUND) TO BLUE OR RED :!:

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Hi bigofir2, I wait for you to get back and to try another movie. I really hope this one will work perfect for you :D . I'm sorry that movie won't work, I tryed my best to help you, but it seams to have some bug or something :(

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Hi maikel , as I understand you didn't finish the whole step 5 ? STEP 5 sections c) and section d) are the most important of the whole process. If you skip a step of the guide, the DVD-Video disc will have errors :!:

IF YOU DON'T MAKE STEP 5 C) AND D) THE DVD DISC WILL PLAY WELL ON A PC PLAYER, BUT IT WILL HAVE ERRORS IN A STANDALONE PLAYER !

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Hi str2sup, I was really looking to talk to you, well what do you know :D...thanks for the great software that you maked (SRT2SUP and SupRemap). I saw the problem :) ... but the subtitles look OK, because they are shown on the black space...bottom of the movie. (On my Standalone Player :D).
I am wainting for a new version of SRT2SUP...mabey you can add some more colors (like the ones on the original DVD's) :D

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Hi panoplos, :!: YOU MUST DO THE STEP 5 (as I said to [b]maikel) IF YOU WANT THE DVD-VIDEO DISC TO BE PLAYABLE IN A STANDALONE PLAYER AND IF YOU WANT TO KEEP THE MENUS AND EXTRAS OF THE MOVIE[/b] :!:
The mg are less...because you do a REAUTHOR of the disc ! And there in IMAGE 11 (in the guide) if you don't select something that you already have (like an audio track)...you will get less mb.
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I see that so far no one has managed to add a subtitle to a DVD without errors. :(
I will be gone in a trip for a week, when I will be back...I will try to help the ones how have problems... on a chat program (IRC, MSN, YAHOO) :D ! I must learn you all how to do this whole process because it's our future !

maikel posted 2004 May 10 16:40

Hi again,

the problem with step 5c and d is that after finishing the guide (including step 5c and d) my chapters start at the wrong point. They start in the middle of a scene. Is there anything I can do to correct that?

I also found another topic about problems playing custom subtitles on standalone DVD-players. In that topic it's said that the error has something to do with the ripping using DVD Shrink.
It sounds a bit odd to me, but who knows. :)

I'm now in the middle of the whole process after ripping the DVD with CloneDVD2. I'll let you all know if it makes any difference.

PS. Could you please explain what exactly happens in step 5c and d? It's not exactly clear to me. I just push some buttons and something happens. :)

TheMatrixx posted 2004 May 10 21:27

In step 5 c) it's a ReAuthor of the entire disc, IfoEdit rewrite the IFO files of the DVD disc so everthing should be perfect (no errors on play).

In step 5 d), if you put the mouse over the Get VTS sectors button, you will see "Use this button right before you're going to burn a DVD-R. This will adjust all start sectors of all files".

TheMatrixx posted 2004 May 10 22:42

For joelson : Here are the results, you send me the duckpunk.mpg and I made it DVD with subtitle :D
How I did it ?
1). I loaded the file in TmpgEnc and made it DVD PAL 16:9 (m2v+wav).
2). I made the subtitle in SRT2SUP (function INS) (1 row at every 2 seconds) and I made it *.sup file (like in the guide).
3). I opened IfoEdit > DVD Author > Author New DVD and I load the *.m2v file (video), *.wav file (audio) and the *.sup file (subtitle). I did not make chapters, because at 30 seconds video it's stupid :D
4) After Multiplex I have the DVD-Video files (VIDEO_TS.IFO, VIDEO_TS.BUP, VTS_01_0.IFO, VTS_01_0.BUP and VTS_01_1.VOB). I opened SupRemap and input the colors in VTS_01_0.IFO file (like in the guide).

bigofir2 posted 2004 May 11 13:10

Hi TheMatrixx !

I retured from the trip... I bought from a year a go "The Others" with Nickol Kidman, in my subtitle language.. I will rip it to my HDD and I will download from the internet subtitle and I will make the guide again. :wink:

Thanks for the great guide! I will try it now..
I will tell you the results here..!
Thanks for your help, and I know you made what's you could !!

BiGOFiR

maikel posted 2004 May 12 01:30

I've finished the guide for Kill Bill. I did every single step of it, but I still have wrong chapter-starts.
I've compared the celltimes of my final movie with the ones from the original and they differ.
I also found out that there's already a chapter-start-error after step 5a. But the chapters start at a different point as the final.

Does anyone what the cause could be?
And how to solve this?

panoplos posted 2004 May 12 05:00

I try the Bruce Almighty but I can play the dts, is mute. I checked it in ifoedit but nothing.
Also I notice when I author the movie from rejid I have 4 vob files.
But when I procced with step 5 I get only 3 vob files. Its like merge the files and shrink the movie into 3, because when I play them are diffent from the original.
I do everything like the guide and I have success with subtitles but I have problem with audio.

bigofir2 posted 2004 May 13 16:34

What's up TheMatrixx ??!

Finally, I made it!
I made successfuly a DVD with my own language!
I have a lot of problems with timing and with the subtitle like you remember, but finally I made it !

I am going now to see the movie that I made (Out Of Time with Washington).
Tommorow I'm coming back to the form and like I promised to you TheMAtrixx I will make screenshots and I will explain how did I resolve my problems for the users like me that have my problems!

So now I am very happy because I have 50 DVD-R's to copy movies and now I have the way to do it completly.

So, see you tommorow and thank you for all!

:D :D :D :D :D
B.RGRDS,
BiGOFiR
:D :D :D :D :D

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panoplos, I had the same problem that you have about the number of the VOB's. The original DVD has 5 VOB's and after multiplex I had 3 VOB's! So I resolved this problem, and I will post a message about this topic.
What is the VOB's filenames? VTS_01_1.vob ...or VTS_xx_1.vob ?

panoplos posted 2004 May 14 00:46

With Torque when I put mine subs the others are not sychronize only mine and I can't change the color of the sub.
I try subremap but nothing. The subs are having black outline and transparent inside.I try to change all the color in subremap but the subs that I insert is the same.
I see that I can change the subs color from IFOedit. There is any guide for this.
Please help.

bigofir2 my vobs are VTS_01_1.vob, VTS_02_1.vob, VTS_03_1.vob, VTS_04_1.vob

bigofir2 posted 2004 May 14 03:58

panoplos are you sure?
Because the VOB's files should be like this VTS_01_1.vob till VTS_01_4.vob, and not like you said.

Changing the sub colors with IFOEdit:

:: First you have to know the original IFO colors.::
My colors:
[10 80 80] black
[10 80 80] black
[EB 80 80] white
[7D 80 80] gray
------------------------------------------------------------

Open the IFO with IFOEdit.
Then double click on VTS_PGCITI in the upper window.
VTS_PGC_1 appeared right below, click on it.
In the lower window, right below a lot of "Sub-picture steam x Status", you'll see "Color 0 Y Cr Cb".
Double click on it.
In the edit window, you'll see: "00000000 00 00 00 ...".
Click on the "00"(bold) pairs and fill with the Hex color informations from
your colors or mine.
Repeat for "Color 1 Y Cr Cb", "Color 2 Y Cr Cb" and "Color 3 Y Cr Cb".
Click on "save", the default name is fine. You can say "yes" to the Bup question.

panoplos posted 2004 May 14 10:43

Hi bigofir2,
My mistake the vob files are VTS_01_1, VTS_01_2, VTS_01_3, VTS_01_4. Sory.
About the colors with your codes I get only black outline and transparent inside. Whatever I do the inside color is transparent. Only for this movie, and I don't know why.
The other problem I have in other movies sometimes the subs stop showing and I have to press the subs from the remote and then is ok for a while and after 5 minutes the subs disapear and I have to press the subs from the remote again.
If anyone can help I will appreciate.
Thanks

maikel posted 2004 May 14 14:59

Doh!

I found the cause of my problem with the incorrect chapter-starts. I used IfoEdit to author the new DVD because of some problems with ReJig.
But IfoEdit isn't able to author the NTSC-format!
(I thought you only had to use ReJig because of a bug in IfoEdit, but there's no bug, it's just not possible).

Now I tried with ReJig and the capters were right, but some other thing was not (can't remember anymore). So I retried authoring the DVD using ReJig, but now it stops after a long time and I only have the file 'VTS_01_1.VOB' with a size of 58KB (and some IFO's) instead of 3 VOB's !!

Is there a solution for this problem with ReJig?
Or maybe some other easy-to-use tool?

alphafann posted 2004 May 14 22:31

Is it possible to convert .smi subtitles to .srt format?

maikel posted 2004 May 15 03:50

I'm not sure what the .smi-format is, but I guess it's possible with Subtitle Workshop.

panoplos posted 2004 May 15 04:45

Hi,
I'm trying to change the subs color but whatever color I put I only get black outline and transparent inside. I have this problem for Paycheck and Torque. Also the English subs have different color from mine subs.
When I change the colors only the English subs change.
Please someone help.
Thanks

Sasarchiver posted 2004 May 16 15:04

Hey Matrix, nice guide....cool avatar too :)...SasArchiver

jrosado posted 2004 May 17 08:04

Hi:

In step 5 a), shouldn't we copy also the VTS_01_1.IFO and VTS_01_1.BUP from the "final DVD" folder to the "original DVD" folder ?

If we don't do this, the IFO file in the original folder has no info of the new subtitles we had, and all the work was done for nothing!

Regards,

J. Rosado

LioCraft posted 2004 May 17 09:21

Hi there,
Great guide...thx.

I have one problem though....ReJig refuses to worl. I' multiplexing an NTSC DVD, with 3 real audio and 2 dummies. The Dummy tracks are on position 2 and 3. I don't know if this is the problem, but the program just crush. :?
Anyone there with this same problem?

I'm trying with IfoEdit 0.96 now...but as I said, its NTSC...so I hope I don't have the problem with IfoEdit/NTSC.

Regards,

bigofir2 posted 2004 May 17 13:01

jrosado :

I think like you!
I made NTSC movie and IFOEdit and ReJig create 3VOB's and the original DVD has 5VOB's . I download the new IFOEdit 0.96, and the movie work great, in my PC. I don't know jrosado I think like you that the IFO have all the info, but the IFO is just info. The subtitles are in the VOB's because the IFO is just 68KB in my case, and the sup files are 3MB!
So the IFO has just the info. TheMatrixx in a trip now, so when he come back, I hope that he will answer this question.
B.RGRDS,
BiGOFiR

LioCraft posted 2004 May 17 14:19

OK,
I finally got this to work ... but with IfoEdit 0.96. Subs are OK, perfect sync, no hic-ups......at least on PowerDVD. The runtime seems a little shorter now (the time showd in PowerDVD).

I have 2 questions:
1.- Where in Ifo Edit can I look for original subtitle colors?
2.- Is this error in time produced by IfoEdit and NTSC?
3.- What If I just reauthore the DVD with 1 sound track, when it had 5 originaly (2 dummies)? Would it still work?

yurykk posted 2004 May 17 15:58

Hi Matrix,

Your guide is very good, but unfortunatelly I have some issues that
I hope you can help me with :-)

I have DVD with subtitles for one language X, and I was trying to add
two more languages (Y and Z) and remove original X

And here are the problems

1) When I author new DVD (step 4) with IfoEdit 0.95 (and 0.96)
for some reason, in newly creaded IFO file PGC_1 playback
time is doubled

but since we are discarding this IFO file it shouldn't be a problem,
right ?

by the way, I can play generated VOBs with PowerDVD,
and subtitles looks excellent.

2) On the step 5c (image 11), IfoEdit shows only 1 subpicture -
for language X, that was in original DVD.
So, when all files are created in "Final DVD" folder, I'm getting only
1 subpicture (language Z) that replaced "X", but "Y" is absent !!!

What I'm doing wrong ?

Thanks in advance.

LioCraft posted 2004 May 17 17:19

Just if someone ever had the same problem with ReJig .... It doesn't work if you use dummie sound track between real ones.
In my case, it was:
- 0: English AC3
- 1: French AC3 (Feak)
- 2: German (Feack)
- 3: English Director's Cut
- 4: English Alternate Director's Cut

What I did was mux everithing but the feak tracks (1 & 2), and then change the info of tracks 1 and 2 with the exact same info than tracks 3 & 4. After that, I redirected butons for audio selection, changing track 4 with 2, and 3 with 1.
Finally, I delete playback of tracks 3 & 4. This way, there is not a single clue of 5 audios in the DVD.

Sorry if it is not clear, but today my english is worst than ever.

Cheers,

TheMatrixx posted 2004 May 17 21:07

Well, I'm back ! :D

Hi everybody, I will be online from today, so who wants can give me their Yahoo Messenger ID and will talk there problmes regarding the DVD subtitles.
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Hi bigofir2 : I'm very happy that you did your DVD with subtitles in your language. I hope to help others in here ho have problems. :D
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For jrosado : NO :!: If you do that you will have no info in the IFO files about the Menus of the DVD and other extras. In the IFO files from FINAL DVD folder you have info only about the movie that you multiplexed at STEP 4.
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For yurykk : 1. Yes, and I know about PowerDVD. | 2. You aren't doing anything wrong. The old IFO dosen't have info about 2 subtitles. So in that case, you will have to add one manualy with IfoEdit. I will make a guide about that soon.
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yurykk posted 2004 May 18 01:47

Thanks Matrix, I'll try that.

Another small question - IfoEDIT reports that subpicture for some
languages have several ID's - 0x21 and 0x20 (just like on your screenshot).

VobEdit extracts 2 .sup files for these subpictures. When I'm trying
to reauthor DVD and add both of them in IfoEdit, it stops somewhere
after 50% with error "too many frame drops".

It looks like each .sup file contains subtitles for part of the movie, but
IfoEDIT trying to add them as separate subtitles for different languages
(I think).

Any ideas ?

Thanks,
Yuri

TheMatrixx posted 2004 May 18 15:31

Yes yurykk I know, that's why I said that I don't no if it works...I saw that has 2 ID's (0x21 and 0x20) :(

It happend to me that "too many frame drops" error, but I closed the program give a restart to the PC and after that everything was ok. All this software we use has many bugs. That's why they are free I guess, but we don't have choice.

Try that, and let me know if it works :D

yurykk posted 2004 May 18 21:18

TheMatrixx :

Yes yurykk I know, that's why I said that I
Try that, and let me know if it works :D

Well, it's not.

I took another DVD with several subtitles and - after demuxing,
IfoEDIT can't remux the files back (without any changes - just
the same files).

This is definitely because of subtitles. If I'm trying to remove some of
subtitles, it helps. Strange.

LioCraft posted 2004 May 19 08:26

Damn !!!!

TheMatrixx .... help me.

After I completly followed your guide, my new DVD had not a single problem in PowerDVD (as I stated before), but when I put it in my stand alone DVD player, subs are back in english (I'm changing English subs for Spanish subs). The same disc inserted again in my computer, and subs are in Spanish...so I really can't get it.
The only different thing that I did was changing the type of the sub in IfoEdit (double click and changed English with Spanish). I did this in VIDEO_TS.IFO and VTS_02_0.IFO (where the movie is). This was done after finishing the guide.

Help me please, this has cost me 2 days and 2 DVD-Rs ... damn.

panoplos posted 2004 May 19 09:16

Hi,
anyone knows how can I change the font size from IFOEdit.
Thanks

bigofir2 posted 2004 May 19 16:03

I think you cant.
You have to choose font type and size with SRT2SUP.

meping posted 2004 May 19 16:57

After I finish step & re-mux the video, I only get:
VIDEO_TS.BUP
VIDEO_TS.IFO
VTS_1_0.BUP
VTS_1_0.IFO
VTS_1_0.VOB
in the final dvd folder. Shouldn't there be more files?

LioCraft posted 2004 May 19 16:59

panoplos :

Hi,
anyone knows how can I change the font size from IFOEdit.
Thanks

You can't, because it has already been transformed to BMP (SUP)...its an image, not a set of characters.

TheMatrixx posted 2004 May 19 17:38

LioCraft DON'T do anymore changes after you finish the guide. Do it again, without the changes, when you will insert the DVD disc in your Standalone player and push the subtitle button when the movie starts, if you just replaced the english one, and you have no other subtitle, you will see on display SUBTITLE 1/1 ENGLISH, but it will be the SPANISH one. I hope that before step 4 b) (the multiplex), you replace the original *.SUP file that you get it at step 3 c), like it says in step 3 d).

meping how many vob files has the original movie ? with what did you multiplex the files? How many Gb you have on your HDD ? And please paste here the whole files of the original DVD. It is NTSC or PAL ?

meping posted 2004 May 19 17:47

@ LioCraft
there are 5 files in the vob
I've got 40gb
the video is ntsc
I multiplexed with rejig like the guide said
file system of original dvd:
VIDEO_TS.BUP
VIDEO_TS.IFO
VIDEO_TS.VOB
VTS_1_0.BUP
VTS_1_0.IFO
VTS_1_0.VOB
VTS_1_1.VOB
VTS_1_2.VOB
VTS_1_3.VOB
VTS_1_4.VOB
VTS_2_0.BUP
VTS_2_0.IFO
VTS_2_0.VOB
VTS_2_1.VOB

LioCraft posted 2004 May 19 17:54

TheMatrix,

Yes sir, I did replace the .sup files before remuxing. That's why I can see the Spanish subtitles in the computer.
What I can't understand, is why they don't appear when played in stand alone. How can affect the change in the name of the subs to the playability of the DVD?

Another question, you always use the same colors?, or U copy the 4 first colors in the original IFO?.

TheMatrixx posted 2004 May 19 17:56

Ok, i see....look at the *.m2v file with a PC player (Media Player Classic) and see if it's the whole movie, look at the time. If it is...than try to multiplex with other version of Rejig or with IfoEdit....mabey it works in your case.

meping posted 2004 May 19 18:00

@ TheMatrixx

it's odd I opened up the m2v file, and it was only half the length of the actual movie, what's even weirder is that it's got the beginning & the end but no middle?

meping posted 2004 May 19 18:13

After I finish step & re-mux the video, I only get:
VIDEO_TS.BUP
VIDEO_TS.IFO
VTS_1_0.BUP
VTS_1_0.IFO
VTS_1_0.VOB
in the final dvd folder. Shouldn't there be more files?

I opened the m2v demuxed file & discovered that it was only half the length of the actual movie, it had a beginning & an ending but no middle...what am I doing wrong?

TheMatrixx posted 2004 May 19 18:19

Open in VobEdit file VTS_1_0.VOB, demux it again and this time, look what he does to every vob file, if it skips one...I don't know....I can't help you there :(

meping posted 2004 May 19 18:30

re-demuxed the videos files, watching them this time. Went through all the vob's but I was left w/ the same 50min video...is it just something w/ this disc?

TheMatrixx posted 2004 May 19 18:36

If you say it process all the 4 VOB files...VTS_01_1.VOB, VTS_01_2.VOB, VTS_01_3.VOB, VTS_01_4.VOB....and at the end, the *.m2v file is not the whole movie...I can't help you....try onther DVD.

Did you made step 1 ? Copy the DVD to HDD ? or you are working with the DVD-ROM ?

meping posted 2004 May 19 18:38

it's on my hd

notieminosabi posted 2004 May 19 20:43

Hi all, have read and tried this guide but have not succeeded. So need your advise.
Each time i get stuck on step 5C; stripping the IFO's works for all except the one with the movie. Ifoedit just crashes each time with no error report what so ever.
Here is the deal;
The source is a NTSC movie, the srt file is converted as a NTSC sup. Demuxing the files is working oke and the files are muxed together again with Rejig as this is a NTSC movie.
Making a DVD at this point with the newly selectable subtitles works fine so nothing wrong there.
As my goal is to keep the menus and extras i proceed with step 5 and meet with the problem described previously.
I have tried to investigate the problem and the following come to mind.
The origal movie has e.g. 5 vob files (VTS_02_0 untill _02_4), when demuxing it looks like the first file (VTS_02_0) is skipped and i come up one vob file to short when muxing and replacing the files in the original dvd folder. I solve this by renaming the files in the same order as the orignal dvd but that didn't help.
Once again, everything works fine untill i get to step 5C and Ifoedit crashes at the start of stripping the movie IFO file. This happened to me with 3 different movies now.
I have carefully studied bigofir2's problem but didn't find any solution there.
Has anyone encountered this problem and/or have a solution or work around for this.

TheMatrixx posted 2004 May 19 23:04

Hi notieminosabi, please paste here all the files from the Original DVD and from the Final DVD-after multiplex.

bigofir2 posted 2004 May 20 07:54

Hi TheMatrixx and to all the users!

I read all the posts in this topic and I realized that many of the problems are like mine.
So, for the users that have less VOB's from the ORIGINAL DVD after Multiplexing, go to http://www.ifoedit.com and download the last version of IfoEdit 0.96.
In my case I have NTSC that his length is 1:45m (!) (Out Of Time if you want to know!) and I Demux with VOBEdit and multiplex with IfoEdit 0.96 .
The final result was movie with my subtitles language, but the final length is 1:31, 14 minutes are gone! but when I'm rolling to the end I saw the credits and all that stuff, but of course, the subtitle isn't synchronized! :x
(I know that TheMatrixx said to use ReJig with NTSC but, I got less VOB's from the original movie so I use IFOEdit 0.95 and I have the same problem and I downloaded the new version of IFOEdit and I got improved result.

--------------------------------
Finally, we all know that all this fucking problems are because of these programs that are FREE OF CHARGE and not made by big companys like ROXIO,AHEAD or something like that!
I think that some companys will release software that cost some money and we won't spend time for this problems in the near futre, I hope so. :wink:

In my opinion if you want to see a movie and to enjoy from it, Author a DVD from DVDRiP and download Subtitles that synchronized for this version. Make your Menu with Ulead Movie Factory or softwares like that, and also DVDRiPs have AC3 sound!
So do what you think. 8)
Thanks,
BiGOFiR

LioCraft posted 2004 May 20 09:07

Hey TheMatrixx,

I tried everything again, right from thr begining, no changes, multiplexing with ReJig and IfoEdit....always the same result...perfect DVD with new subs on computer / almost unreadable (vibrations and unfocused characters) original subs on Stand Alone DVD.
I will try another movie, but it's kind of strange that you have succesfuly done 15 or so movies and here we all have problems.....are you sure that everything is reflected on the guide?

Thx

jrosado posted 2004 May 20 09:18

TheMatrixx :

Well, I'm back ! :D

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For jrosado : NO :!: If you do that you will have no info in the IFO files about the Menus of the DVD and other extras. In the IFO files from FINAL DVD folder you have info only about the movie that you multiplexed at STEP 4.

Hi:

I may be wrong, but i think the VTS_01_0.IFO has info on the movie itself and not the menus. It's also this ifo file that has info aboute the subtitles of the movie. The VIDEO_TS.IFO it's the one that has info on the menus. If we have a movie without subtitles and if we replace the new VTS_01_0.IFO with the old one, there will be no info on the subtiltes and it will not work!

I'm adding subtitles to a movie now (that has no subtitles at all). I will try the way i'm thinking and the will post back to say if it worked.

Regards,

J. Rosado

LioCraft posted 2004 May 20 09:42

jrosado :

TheMatrixx :

Hey,
could you please test it in a stand alone DVD and let us know if it did work?
Thx

jrosado posted 2004 May 20 11:25

Hi:

Well, i tryed, bt Power DVD did not like it. But i use the original ifo file, my dvd player will not see the subtitles :(. I guess i'm going to choose to loose the menus.

I'm also having another problem i did not had the first time: My subtitles are out of sync by aproximate 1 second. I allready tryed to correct the .srt file and the sup, but it's the same. They keep appearing out of sync by about 1 sec. Any ideas why?

Regards,

J. Rosado

notieminosabi posted 2004 May 20 14:32

damn this is not working.

Tried to upload the screendumps of my Original and Final folders.

Will try another time

TheMatrixx posted 2004 May 20 20:15

Hi LioCraft, this are the DVD's that I made till now.

Kiss of the Dragon - NTSC (source DVD not original)
Hollow Man - PAL (source DVD original)
The One - PAL (source DVD original)
Charlie's Angels - PAL (source DVD original)
The Saint - PAL (this is the only one where the movie gets cut at 58 minutes, because it uses 2 VOBids, so I burned the content of the Original DVD folder, after I did a Get VTS sectors to the IFO files. I've stoped at step 5 section c) - (source DVD original)
The Mummy Returns - PAL (source DVD original)
Jurassic Park 2: The Lost World - PAL (source DVD original)
Thir13en Ghosts - PAL (source DVD original)
Tomb Raider - NTSC (source DVD not original)
Resident Evil - NTSC (I cut the menus, this one didn't work at all with the menus, the source DVD was not original !)
Mission Impossible 2 - PAL (source DVD not original)
Con Air - NTSC (source DVD not original)
Blade 2 - NTSC (source DVD not original)
Star Wars Episode 2 - NTSC (source DVD not original)
The Mummy - NTSC (source DVD was not original and it didn't have any menus at all !)

I think they are all. I will look again on the Guide and if I found something wrong I will post here.

And as you see, I didn't have sync problems (because I know how to sync them), or no subtitle on the movie problems.

P.S. : and I also put subtitle to 3 DVD's made from AVI, created with TMPGEnc DVD Author.

TheMatrixx posted 2004 May 20 21:26

I made some corections to the guide. I hope you will all get better results.

1. Warning at the begining of the guide.
2. Warning at STEP 3 after section a)
3. Warning at STEP 4 after section a)
4. Warning at the end of STEP 4.
5. Replaced section a) of STEP 5.
6. Warning at STEP 5 after section b)
7. Warning at the end of the guide.

jrosado posted 2004 May 21 16:26

Hi:

well i done it, but since the original movie did not had any subtitles, i had to use the IFO files from the Final dvd and to stay only with the movie (no menus). But anyway, since we got the original and the idea is to see the movie with subtitles, what's the point in having menus?

Regards,
J. Rosado

maikel posted 2004 May 22 07:44

I'm still busy trying to put Dutch subtitles on Kill Bill.
I thought the out-of-sync-problem was due to using IfoEdit to author while it was a NTSC-DVD, but ReJig quits all the time!
It says it's multiplexing, but when the progress-bar is full it starts over again with the next process, but then it quits and I end up with a VOB-file of 58kB.

After a lot of trying with ReJig I tried IfoEdit again and I noticed that, after the reauthoring process, the VTS_01_0.ifo is different. It says I have 16 programs in PGC1 and 16 chapters. But in the original file it says I have 21 programs and 20 chapters.
The times for the cells differ too.

Why is this different?
And how can I correct this?
Does this have anything to do with using IfoEdit for a NTSC-movie?

TheMatrixx posted 2004 May 22 14:51

maikel please upload here in a zip file the IFO's of the movie. Or send them in my PM. I will look at them and I will tell you if you can make this DVD with subtitle or not.

meping posted 2004 May 22 22:58

I had posted before about problems I was having w/ the guide. I broke it down to vobedit. When I demux a vob (source from my hd) it demux's the beginning & the ending (all into 1 file in proper order) but doesn't do the middle so my 2hr movie creates a 1hr file. Anybody know why?
Oh I've tried this on 2 seperate dvd's & I'm runnign the running config
athlon 1500XP
256MB
Win2kProw/ServicPack4
VobEdit V0.6

Thanx

panoplos posted 2004 May 23 04:27

Hi,
I notice that is better to demux the VTS_01_1.VOB than VTS_01_0.VOB.
If you demux Bruce Almighty VTS_01_0.VOB you get the DTS but when you author again you dont get it.

TheMatrixx: I still have problems with compatibility. In some players you can see the subs and in some other you cant and sometimes the subs disapear and you have to put them again.

The original movie Torque dont have VIDEO_TS files. When you do the step 5 you get VIDEO_TS files but you cant play the movie.

Wookie3K posted 2004 May 23 16:44

maikel :

Hiya Maikel,

I'm having ex-act-ly the same difficulties, I've got a set of vob files with originally 30 cells and 21 chapters, when i make a CellTimes.txt list in ifoedit it lists ALL the 30 cells in the CellTimes.txt, not just the ones where a new chapter starts. Then after authoring with ifoedit it used only the first 20 as chapterpoints instead of all thirty, and besides that the times differ too. And you're right, when i try to make a celltimes.txt file manually with all the right framenumbers, it only uses 16 of 'em. And rejig always quits on me too.

So there are a couple of things pretty fooked up here.

1. Rejig just quits after a while when authoring.
2. Ifoedit doesn't use the given celltimes in celltimes.txt
3. Ifoedit doesn't use the exact amount of celltimes in celltimes.txt (when given thirty it uses only 20 as chapterpoints, when given 21 it uses 16 as chapterpoints)

Any ideas on the matter would be greatly appreciated.

panoplos posted 2004 May 24 01:43

Hi, Wookie3K
Try demux VTS_01_1.VOB instead VTS_01_0.VOB and tell me if you see any different.

TheMatrixx posted 2004 May 24 05:23

If you have the main movie at VTS_01_1.VOB. Please see the new WARNING at STEP 3 after section a)

------------------
WARNING ! - If the orginal movie that is in the "Original DVD" folder starts from another *.VOB file than VTS_01_1.VOB (exemple : VTS_02_1.VOB or VTS_03_1.VOB), than you will have to open in VobEdit VTS_02_0.VOB file or VTS_03_0.VOB file. If you don't know in what *.VOB files the movie is, open each file with a DVD PC Player starting from VTS_01_1.VOB and see where is the movie.
------------------

panoplos posted 2004 May 24 07:52

Hi TheMatrixx
I mean if the movie start from VTS_01_1.VOB then choose this file for demux and not the VTS_01_0.VOB.
I try this in Bruce Almighty and if you choose VTS_01_0.VOB you get 3 VOB files instead 4 which the original movie is.
When you choose VTS_01_1.VOB you get the same VOBs and size like the original.

LioCraft posted 2004 May 24 09:11

TheMatrixx,

Thx for those new comments. I think I've found my problem. The movie is Paycheck and it has 22 Programs and 38 Cells. According to you, it won't work at all.
Could you please explaine to me why?, what does this mean?, is there any other way to do this?

Thx.

Wookie3K posted 2004 May 24 10:17

panoplos :

Hi, Wookie3K
Try demux VTS_01_1.VOB instead VTS_01_0.VOB and tell me if you see any different.

Hey panoplos, thx for the reply.

Well... The movie starts in VTS_01_1.VOB because VTS_01_0.VOB only contains the streams for the animated menus and stuff, so with vobedit I alwas just demuxed VTS_01_1.VOB (and ascending of course). As far as I know, demuxing a VTS_XX_0.VOB doesn't really make any sense, because the "zero VOB" pretty much always just contains menu information, so i never did that in the first place.
Another thing I noticed when i had my demuxed m2v file, is that I could open it in Virtualdubmod, but Mpeg2vcr just displayed blackness. This never happened to me before, so maybe any of you guys find this information usefull for helping me solve my problem.

The only thing that's keeping me from finishing my dvd with a new sub, is my lack of a proper program to mux my .m2v, .ac3 and 3 .sup files that also allowes the input of chapter points and is not IfoEdit or Rejig ;p

Any ideas are welcome, thx.

LioCraft posted 2004 May 24 12:39

Another Question,
What does it mean if the original sub has 2 IDs?
My Movie has:
Subpicture 1: English (ID: 0x20, 0x21) Normal Caption
Subpicture 2: French (ID: 0x22, 0x23) Forced Caption

Sub Rip says "CLOSE CAPTION detected"

When I demux the movie, I got 2 .sup files, VTS_02_0.20.sup and VTS_02_0.21.sup. I supposed that they where English and French, but both of them are exactly the same ... ENGLISH. I was replacing just VTS_02_0.20.sup with my new subs. May be replacing both files with the new one will work.

What do U think?, Was this the root of my problem?.

Wookie3K posted 2004 May 24 18:18

A little update on my progress (yeah... let's just call it that) It seems the .m2v I keep demuxing from those vobs is just really fooked up, Almost every program crashes when I try to open it. TMPEGEncoder can't even reencode it whole, just the first couple of minutes. How come this .m2v file is so butchered after i demuxed it from my vobs? I tried several methods of demuxing:

- used vobedit.
- used smartripper with stream processing.
- used dvd decrypter with stream processing.
- first reencoded with dvdshrink, then ripped and demuxed everything.

Nothing seems to work. How come the original dvd works okay when it contains such a crappy mpeg2 stream? Weird isn't it?

Might this be the reason ifoedit and Rejig fook up the author process and chapter points?

Hope this clears some things up!!

LioCraft posted 2004 May 25 10:02

What if I translate the original subs, in order to have the exact same number of lines?...what do u think?...would this be a feasible way to make it fool de DVD?

TheMatrixx posted 2004 May 25 11:52

Hi all, first i want to make a thing clear...Wookie3K the 0 *.VOB file of the movie ...YES it's a menu file...but also is the index of the rest of the *.VOB files. You said "so i never did that in the first place" ....well if you demuxed the VTS_XX_0.VOB file, when the demux process starts you can see that it stars with VTS_XX_1.VOB and so on till the end of the movie. It skips the 0 file. But you have to open the VTS_XX_0.VOB to have a good *.m2v file at the end, and the other files as well (ac3, dts, sup).

I understand your problem Wookie3K with the *.m2v file, if you did what i just said...and still have problems mabey the DVD it's some kind...locked...I don't really know...try to other OS the process. BTW...if the makers of the DVD's from Sony or other company will see this guides...they will make the IFOs and VOBs that way to not open them with IfoEdit or any other software. DAMN ! scary thing :(

LioCraft, first question...how many chapters you have on the DVD ? is it 22, 23 or 38 ? And I don't think it's 38. Anyway....to explain why it will not work, if the original movie has 22 chapters let's say, and you multiplex it with 38 chapters...and the original IFO's know that the movie is 22 chapters but you multiplex it with 38....what is the result ? Failure :(

Some DVD's are made that way not to re-authored them Not with the programs that we have now :(

Second question about the 2 IDs of the sub files or audio files...I think that it's not normal and the result will have errors, mabey it's another trick from the makers of the DVDs to not re-authored them :( In my DVDs I didn't have that, I will do some tests and I let you know if it's posible or not.

And finaly with the subtitle, I said it ones...I will say it again : The best way to see if your subtitles are sync or not is to rip one of the original subtitles (exemple: english) from the DVD and compare it with the one you want to put, look at the time codes at the middle, end and begining of the subtitle. Most of them are not like the original ones from the DVD. And you will have to copy the text from the subtitle you want to put and paste it over the rip ones, line by line I know it's hard and it takes like 3 hours per subtitle but in many cases this is the only way. :( I did it for 4-5 of my DVDs.

TheMatrixx posted 2004 May 25 12:06

This is regarding the last WARNING of the guide (at the end), for those of you who gets a cut movie at the end of the guide. Look first at the IFO file of the movie and see if it looks like this

where I put the arrow (from the second arrow it will not continue) the movie it breaks (it's a Layer Brake) so it will continue to ID 2 (you can see that I underlined the 2 IDs). So after VobExtras will not have the second ID (even if you Strip the IDs). So to make it work read the WARNING from the end of the guide.

LioCraft posted 2004 May 25 12:13

TheMatrix,

It has 22 Chapters, 22 Programs and 38 Cells.

And My subs are synced, I did what you said.

About 2 IDs, it says wide for 00 and letterbox for 01.

TheMatrixx posted 2004 May 25 12:22

No no...put the original DVD in Standalone and see how many chapters has. Then post here and I will tell you what's wrong and how can you corect this.

LioCraft posted 2004 May 25 12:35

It has 22 chapters.

My situation id very similar to what you show in you last screenshot. Originaly there are 22 CH and 38 Cells, which ends up after reauthor in 38 and 38.

meping posted 2004 May 25 12:57

alright, I had posted before & now I'm really stuck. Whenever I go to demux the dvd files which have been copied to my hd, vobedit edit says it's demuxing all the vob files but the final .m2v is only like half the movie, it's the beginning & the ending, but no middle. I've tried this on 2 seperate dvd's & am quite lost now.

Current system config
ATHLON XP1600
256DDR
Win2kw/ServicePack4
VobEdit V0.6
WOULD APPRECIATE ANY HELP!!!

Thanx

bigofir2 posted 2004 May 25 17:02

Hi TheMatrixx and hi to all the users!

Listen, I was trying to make my DVD with my own subtitles language, and all the tume I was failed. When I thoght I made it, It's not work on my DVD Player (Pioneer) and I have a lot of problems.

I bought Adobe Encore DVD 2 days ago, and I make my own DVD with my subtitle without one problem! Everything work great and I saw the whole movie in my stand alone DVD player!
The one bad thing is that you have to make the menu and you can't use the original, but who cares?! the result was DVD with my subtitles and selectable audio/subs menu!!

B.RGRDS.
BiGOFiR

P.S: The software cost a lot of money but it really make the job.
So, if you want to stay with the 20 free softwares stay with them!
I now will burn a lot of movies because is very EASY !!!
Thank you TheMatrixx for your great guide but I am using now the Adobe.

Wookie3K posted 2004 May 25 18:16

meping :

Hey meping,

Try opening your m2v file with virtualdubmod, I kinda had the same problem. I had a .m2v file that was fooked up, but when i opened it with virtualdubmod I could suddenly see the whole file again. Doesn't really solve your problem but at least you can figure out if the .m2v file actually IS missing parts or if its some kind of safety thingy built into the .m2v file. Another idea perhaps, is to rip the vob files to your HD, check all the vobfiles (with powerdvd or something) to see if the beginnings and ends of every vob file match (i.e. no scenes that are suddenly cut off), then put them in the right order and use join clips in vobedit. Then try demuxing your new vobfiles.

Just an idea, but it once worked for me.

LioCraft posted 2004 May 25 22:13

OK,
I finally did it....almost, because colors are all screw up....but in spanish.
It was the 2 IDs thing. As I understand, in 1 subpicture this movie has 2 different subs, wide and letterbox....which are the same, but are 2 .sup files. I replace both files with the same .sup generated by srt2sup (then the rest of the guide) and it worked.
Now, the problem is color. The original IFO has blue, red, black and white in the first 4 colors...I copy the complete 16 colors from the original IFO, and in the compured, it looked OK...but in the Stand alone DVD...it all red and blue...

TheMatrix, do U always use black, black, white and Black?
thx,

TheMatrixx posted 2004 May 26 10:25

I did, LioCraft for the DVD's I make. You can use blue for background (blue, black, white, silver). Try to open the *.VOB files of the movie in SupRemap and set the colors.

LioCraft posted 2004 May 26 10:44

OK,
Thx TheMatrixx for your valuable help.
Now, what about the thing about number of programs and cells?, My movie didn't meet that criteria, and after fixing the 2 IDs problem...it worked.
Could you please explain it (what is the problem when programs<>cells-1) a little bit?.

Thx again. And, now that it went to a nice final product....This is quite a great guide....Thx for it.

Wookie3K posted 2004 May 27 17:48

I'm really thinking about giving up on this thing o' mine. IfoEdit just keeps screwing up the chapters when authoring and Rejig keeps failing on me too. I even recoded the whole demuxed .m2v file using virtualdub as a frameserver for tmpegencoder. You'd think i'd have a whole new "fresh" .m2v file, but no... ifoedit still screws up.

Please... any thoughts on the subject?

Thx

LioCraft posted 2004 May 28 13:20

Hi there,
2 movies already done succesfuly, no more costers.
One single problem...subs have a little vibration or stutter,,,don't know what is the correct term.
Is there any solution to this?

Thx

TheMatrixx posted 2004 May 29 08:12

Not you to LioCraft :bawling: What the .... is wrong with that vibrating subtitles :x Sorry LioCraft, I can't help you there....some one from doom9 was saying that it's from some Standalone players and you have to select a proper font ....did you try with Verdana NOT BOLD 18 size ?

I really hope to solve this proplem soon, because I see more and more of you are having this problem....4 till now :x

meping posted 2004 May 29 10:15

@ Wookie3K
I opened it up in virtualdubmob & sure enough the whole video was there. So what can I do now?

LioCraft posted 2004 May 29 19:20

I really don't remember what font was used. I'll try that. Thx.

Wookie3K posted 2004 May 30 14:08

meping :

@ Wookie3K
I opened it up in virtualdubmob & sure enough the whole video was there. So what can I do now?

Well... try to find a way to fix the .m2v, I tried the streamconvertor tool in mpeg2vcr, which converts mpeg1 <> mpeg2. Just open the .m2v file with the tool and it will "fix" the .m2v and mux it into a .mpg file. Then just demux the .m2v file outta the .mpg file (also with Mpeg2vcr) and there you go... one fixed m2v.

But... If even that doesn't work... I see only one other option. I guess tmpegenc doesn't open your fooked up .m2v file either right? Well, then just once again open the .m2v file in virtualdubmod, and start up the built in frameserver for reëncoding your .m2v file with tmpegenc.

Just a couple of ideas that once worked for me.

Grtz Wookie3K

dvdkoning posted 2004 May 31 09:07

Hello,

I've got a strange problem at the final result.

I've added dutch subtitels to the movie "secret window" (NTSC)
Multipex all files with Rejig cause of the NTSC format.
After reautohoring with Ifoedit (tried 0.95 and 0.96) the subs are perfect selectable, but...... the movie hangs for 2 sec. after every 8-10 minutes and sometimes the subtitles dissapear for a while too, i've looked in the original subtitle file but there are subs at the point where the subs dissapear in the movie.

Can somebody please tell me what i'am doing wrong, or how to correct this problem!

* An other question is how to add subs to a NTSC DVD that doesn't have original subs included?

Thanks in advance and greetings from sunny Holland! 8)

in0 posted 2004 May 31 14:28

hi, there i have an question about authorization

when i use REJING/IFOEDIT to authorize my NTSC dvd back from demuxed M2V and AC3, the output VOBS are just one episode from three episodes which are on dvd.

dont you know, where could be that problem? (i think it was the last one episode frome those three on dvd)

dvdkoning posted 2004 May 31 18:26

dvdkoning :

Hello the problems are fixed, the freeze and dissapear of the subs was a problem of my DVD player (ps2) this one doesn't like RITEK DVD-r that are 100% written, the cheap DVD player of my mother don't gave any problems at all!

Stil remain the question about add subs to a DVD that has no subs included. You can't change any excisting sub files with the new one.

Please give me a solution! :roll:

TheMatrixx posted 2004 May 31 23:34

dvdkoning :

Stil remain the question about add subs to a DVD that has no subs included. You can't change any excisting sub files with the new one.

Please give me a solution! :roll:

I'm working on it this days, and if all is going to be fine tommorow I will post the guide.

Sorry in0 I didn't do any episode DVDs :( I think you have to take every episode and demux it and multiplex it back and all the stuff....I mean if they are like episode 1 at VTS_01_1.VOB.....episode 2 at VTS_02_1.VOB ....episode 3 at VTS_03_1.VOB and so on....I looked at your IFO file and damn :x I guess you have to take the CellTimes.txt from every IFO file of the chapters.

in0 posted 2004 Jun 01 04:55

thematrixxx : does not matter those chapters yet. at first i would like to have working video stream :) and than i can solve chapters. btw i have seen some guide how to count when i have more than one pgc, it is more difficult, but it should be ok.

main problem is stil that damned m2v file. i am going to work on that today. ...and movie is not separated like you think.

xxx1.vob with bonuses, begining of 1st episode.
xxx2.vob with the end of first episode and 1/3 of 2nd episode
etc.

have a nice day

dvdkoning posted 2004 Jun 01 18:14

Hi all,

I still have some 'freeze' problems, i've noticed that it has to do with several different dvd players cause some do and some don't, here is the problem:

My re-authored movies inclusive new subs does 'freeze' for 2 seconds exactly on the point where the movie chapter is passage to the new chapter in the movie. And sometimes the subs disapear and i have to re-select them with the remote to see them again.

Is there something to do about this?
:idea:
Thnks!

dbasulto posted 2004 Jun 03 00:38

hi, i had the followin problem while adding subs to Spun:

did everything according to the instructions, got the srt subs, demuxed, replaced the english ones with mine, remuxed with rejig (ntsc) and did the vob extras thingie starting from the last vts_XX_x (it was 8, main movie was in 1, so no problem renaming vobs)...
and i start playing the movie, goes trough initial credits, gets to the main menu..i start playing the movie, and it goes to the usual fbi warnings, then the studio warnings.. being the first one title 02, chap 1..then goes to title 02, chap 02..and then back to title 02 chap 02..and so on..on an endless loop and never goes to the main movie...
any idea on what am i doing wrong?

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Jun 03 02:37

Hi dbasulto, well looks like you did something wrong, i don't know exactly what...but we have to take it step by step, so first test the DVD after STEP 5 section b), so before section c) and see if it's ok...burn it on a DVD-RW. (don't forget to do Get VTS sectors, like it says in the last WARNING at the end of the guide).

T0tum posted 2004 Jun 06 07:50

nice quide, altho i use a slightly different approach.

This guide will help you replace one of the subtitles provided with a DVD-Video disc with another one.

Replace all the subs, or just one and keep the the rest of original ones?
I dont think supremap handlings in this quide (replacing IFO colors) are good for this case.
Here we match ifo colors to our own sub. And what about original ones? Wont they be screwed up by this new ifo?
Well, i might be wrong cuz i never tried this quide :D

dbasulto posted 2004 Jun 06 21:14

uhm, i keep getting this problem...followed the instructions carefuly:
when i play the movie, it gets stuck at the first 2 seconds of the first chapter...if i skip to the next chapter, it plays ok, and if i rewind from there to the first chapter, it plays ok...
happened with two movies (Spun and Fog of War).... any ideas?

Sephirot posted 2004 Jun 07 17:34

hey,

I've got a little problem:

I think I followed the guide exactly, but the movie doesn't play correctly in my dvd player. It playes the menu, starts with the main movie, but hangs after a couple seconds.

However, it DOES play fine on PC (with new subs), both from HDD and form the burned disc.
Also, Nero does NOT give me any warning message, like stated in the guide.

Any thoughts?

::Edit
I just noticed that if I skip the first couple of seconds, the rest of the movie plays fine (with new subs), but with no audio (you hear the sound for less than a second after each fast forward of rewind, then it dies). Very strange....

Wookie3K posted 2004 Jun 07 20:33

Well... I finally solved all of my problems (after about a month of messing around) So if anyone wants to know how... just let me know and i'll explain. Just mention your exact problem and i'll see if I can assist ya.

Cya...

dbasulto posted 2004 Jun 07 22:11

Wookie3K
i think you can see all our problems here:)
can you check mine? (posted above) and see if you can help?

panoplos posted 2004 Jun 08 02:10

Hi to all,
Wookie3K : you find out why sometimes the subs disapear?
If you solve this problem let us know.

Wookie3K posted 2004 Jun 08 09:42

dbasulto :

Wookie3K
i think you can see all our problems here:)
can you check mine? (posted above) and see if you can help?

I think you should check if the amount of cells still match after reauthoring all your assets with the new subs. Just use IfoEdit to see if the newly created .ifo file still has the exact same amount of cells... otherwise navigating on your dvd will be tough.

panoplos :

Wookie3K : you find out why sometimes the subs disapear?
If you solve this problem let us know.

Well... I never really had subs disappearing, and the vibrating you mentioned earlier i'm not sure of... My previous movie sometimes showed a sub that looked like it was wiped out or something... unreadable! This happened because I used some wrong settings in subrip, i don't know if it has anything to do with your problems, but hey "vibrating subs" sounds kinda sexy.

Grtz Wookie3K

Wookie3K posted 2004 Jun 08 16:52

AAArrrgghh, I just wrote a bigass post but because I got logged out somehow, I now have to rewrite the whole #$%#% message.

Okay relax...

Just when I thought I was trouble free this happens: (Maybe you can help me with this one TheMatrixx?

I have this new DVD in which I wanna put dutch subs, miraculously I was able to use Rejig without making it crash all the time. So everything went well and bla bla Yakitty Yakitty bla, there I had my perfectly authored vobfiles. So next step switch 'm around with the original ones. Done. So now I basicly have a whole dvd again.
But I can't open the dvdfiles with dvd shrink (I/O overlap error bladiebla) I usually solved this by opening the main movie ifo file (i.e. VTS_01_0.IFO) with ifoedit > vob extras > correct vobu pointers > let it run > save the new VTS_01_0.IFO over the old one, and presto... I can open my dvd files with shrink again which means i can burn the files and watch the movie on my standalone.
!!!BUT!!!
this time after correcting the main movie ifofile (this time it was VTS_03_0.IFO) I tried opening my dvd files with shrink, but it let me know that it couldn't find VTS_04_0.VOB which is true because it doesn't exist, but it also didn't on the original disc.
So i guess my question is: How come shrink suddenly starts complaining about VTS_04_0.VOB while I only corrected VTS_03_0.IFO?

Pleazze, somebody help me because this is driving me nuts...

Mayhem posted 2004 Jun 10 08:28

Hi great guide u made :-) thx alot for that one
But i have a trouble with my movies i made
i uses the guide from step to step exatly as its written BUT..
my movies cant runs normal.... A little before each chapter is finish it stop showing the subs and after about 20-30 seconds it jumps back to the chapter start and start showing the subs again.. :-(
Anyone know what might can be the problem..
Btw.. I have tried with 3 diffrent movies now and the result is all the same

Flarup posted 2004 Jun 10 14:08

Hey Thematrix First I also want's to thanke you for our great job :), I not a newbe I had worked long with this subject, to change the subs to my lanquage Danish :), I for the first time I got af succesfully DVD Almost ;) I have just 1 problem, that is tha mys subtitle is tranperent I only got the outline collor but that means the sub on my stand a lone player is very bad, I know that others in this tread has the same problem but I can't find a answer on the problem, tha's why I take the chance to ask again and hope there is someone who can help me/us :)

Wookie3K posted 2004 Jun 11 20:19

Hiya guys,

I just finished another dvd, and this time I'm having that weird subtitle problem too. Sometimes it seem like they're just being turned off or something... suddenly a sub disappears and no subs show until I rewind or fast forward a bit. Weird right? I guess i'm not the only one with this problem so if somebody knows any kind of solution... let us know.

Thx

(By the way dvdkoning I think this is exactly the same problem you're having, found anything yet?)

Flarup posted 2004 Jun 12 16:05

I have the same problem but it only dissapears once and I reselect it and thenn the stay ther in the the rest of the movie

The matrix do you have somthing to say about this ;)

Wookie3K posted 2004 Jun 12 18:23

Flarup :

I have the same problem but it only dissapears once and I reselect it and thenn the stay ther in the the rest of the movie

The matrix do you have somthing to say about this ;)

Exactly, reselecting the sub works too... I have one movie where it only happens once, and in my latest movie it happens several times, seems like subs are being disabled. An other thing worth mentioning is that the moment it happens differs on different dvd-players.
Not a VERY big deal, but nontheless irritating...

NEOTRIN posted 2004 Jun 12 20:10

Hi TheMatrixx,

i have a question,

I follow the guide exactly but when i burn it on a DVD-RW and use it with a stand-alone it starts from chapter 25 instead of 1 so i can only see the half of this movie. the movie is NTSC but i use Ifoedit 0.95 because rejig crashes all the time when i try to multiplex :refilao:
Can you plz help me

THANX in Advance

:!: By the way Great Guide only the programs have to many bugs :!:

Wookie3K posted 2004 Jun 12 21:18

NEOTRIN :

Reauthoring with ifoedit probably doesn't create the same amount of cells as the original movies has, thus fooking up your chapter points. If Rejig crashes at the subtitle muxing, try rejig 0.5d instead of rejig 0.5e, worked for me, also make sure you get vts sectors at the end of the whole process.
Maybe you should check your VIDEO_TS.IFO to see what precommand is entered at your first play pgc?!

NOW I JUST NEED TO FIGURE OUT THESE G*DD*MN DISAPPEARING SUBS.

whyyy :dropmouth: whyyyyyyyyyyyy

NEOTRIN posted 2004 Jun 13 03:39

thanx for the help Wookie3K

but i am using rejig 0.5e and i am getting the vts sectors so i don't know what the problem is maybe because i have downloaded the movie,

This is standing in the VTS_TS.IFO

PGC Command Table:
[000000ec] Number of Pre Commands 1 [0001]
[000000ee] Number of Post Commands 1 [0001]
[000000f0] Number of Cell Commands 0 [0000]
[000000f2] Size of Command table in bytes 23 [0017]
[000000f4] 1.Pre Command (JumpSS VMGM) Jump to VMG PGC: 2 [30 06 00 02 00 c0 00 00 ]
[000000fc] 1.Post Command (JumpSS VMGM) Jump to VMG PGC: 2 [30 06 00 02 00 c0 00 00 ]

Flarup posted 2004 Jun 13 05:48

Now Im Ad Just as I Thought that I finally Had Found out to make My perfect DVD's With My own lanquage-subtitle I'm running In troubles like I was a newbe :| , The only Movie I Had Almost no problem with was Secret Window where it' only the suptirles who dissapears onece, but Now I Have tried with Monster, paycheck, Spartan and they al can't bed remuxed in Rejig, Rejig going down after it's almost finnish to multioplexing the movie, bad bad bad, I tryed to use ifoedit even I know it dossent work on NTSC movies, I almost thought I was lucky with spartan, but after ca 1 hour the sound dosent match the subtitle and picture, what shal I do to make this work 100 % ok :D

Wookie3K posted 2004 Jun 13 07:07

NEOTRIN :

thanx for the help Wookie3K

but i am using rejig 0.5e

Well then... download 0.5d >>>>>> NOT 0.5e, I repeat NOT 0.5e

NEOTRIN posted 2004 Jun 15 13:22

i used rejig 0.5d and it does not work it hangs when i press create,
and i can't download other versions anymore because the site is closed.
:kaputt:

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Jun 15 18:25

Hi all,

Flarup wrote : I have the same problem but it only dissapears once and I reselect it and thenn the stay ther in the the rest of the movie

The matrix do you have somthing to say about this :)

That will be a NO :x

NEOTRIN, You can't do anything about the disappearing subs. Just push the subtitle button on your Standalone remote again...and reload the sub. It will happen 1 or mabey 2-3 times. I don't know what the #@$# is wrong.

Everybody please have some patience 'cause I'm working on a new and very simple guide. No more Rejig (btw, Rejig project was stoped), no more IfoEdit, no more Srt2Sup, no more SupRemap, no more DVD Shrink (wich i love so much :mrgreen: ). But I will not posted anywhere. I will put it on my home page. So you can printed and work with it.

I read all the posts from here, and most are problems that I didn't have when I made my DVD's ...and I am still adding subtitles to DVD's with this guide.

Updated list of DVD's I made :
1. Vertical Limit (source DVD original, PAL)
2. City of Angels (source DVD not original, PAL) - (the original DVD didn't have any menus).
3. Gone in 60 Seconds (source DVD not original, NTSC)

All the DVD's above are working perfect. NO ERRORS.

So let's wait for the new guide :D Hope will be errorless :nofear:

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Jun 16 22:59

Guide is ready and can be found here.

Good luck to all ! :D

panoplos posted 2004 Jun 17 07:52

Hi to all,
What if the movie is on the HD ?

cd090580 posted 2004 Jun 17 08:12

Just two questions (I'd like to try this guide), does the demultiplex part (to give the m2v, ac3,...) split the files of the demuxed file is a big one because my 2 HDD are in FAT32 and so a bigger file than 4 GB is not working ?

Is it possible to add subtitles (lyrics for music video clips) from a dvd authored by tmpg dvd author (it seems that the guide is for replacing an existing subtitle by another one) ?

dbasulto posted 2004 Jun 17 08:52

website not working for me :S
does it work for anyone?

gonzalimator posted 2004 Jun 17 14:52

Great guide!

Has the issue of adding subs to a movie that never had any subs to begin with been addressed?

My friend made his own fan film in Spanish which has already been authored to DVD. We made some English subs for it. When we followed the guide, the result had no subtitle stream! (what the heck happened the the sup file we muxed?) Anyone in the same boat?

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Jun 17 14:53

panoplos, movie as to be on DVD-ROM...even is this is a virtual one ;) so if the movie is on HDD make it ISO and mount it with Daemon Tools or other Emulation Tools.

cd090580, i think it is posible to have files over 4Gb (m2v file) if you demux from an original DVD-9. So make your HDD NTFS. And I think you can add subtitles to a TMPGEnc Authored DVD. Guide adds subtitles, it is not replaceing, so you can have up to 32.

panoplos posted 2004 Jun 18 06:29

Hi,
TheMatrixx : I have put 2 subs in the movie but only show me the one.
I have put my sub and the original one from the movie.

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Jun 18 16:03

Hi panoplos, I updated the guide. I made another one very quick regarding more than one subtitle on a DVD :wink: after you followed the main subtitle guide.
So you can find it here.

The Subtitle Guide is HERE :!: I updated the URL 8) ....because some of you had problems reaching the URL :wink:

Good luck to all.

dbasulto posted 2004 Jun 18 20:19

i gotta say it...
YOUR NEW GUIDE IS AMAZING
it's WAY EASIER, and takes LESS TIME, and it..WORKS FINE
i had the same problems as everyone... subs stucked, problems between chapters and such...
and NOW I HAVE NO PROBLEMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
i'm so happy, thanks a lot!
dude you rock!
the only thing i could ask for...how do i change the font/size/color of subs? original where supossed to be bigger and yellow...now they are white... it's a small thing...everything works fine anyway so im happy :)
thanks thanks thanks!

Aquanox posted 2004 Jun 18 20:56

Yeah, It roxs, we've tested it a lot so i don't fucking thing someone will find any problems.

Tested it with PAL, NTSC, DVDs with the Film in Vob 3, 9 , 11... etc.. many audio tracks, both simple and complex menus and all without any problems at all, no subtitle dissapearing, no out of syncro shit, subs wayyyyy nicer than the srt2sup ones, and a really happy smile after finishing the process. :lol:

Matrix will answer you about the subtitle font thingy, don't worry, it's pretty simple ;). But gotta say that we didn't test it yet, since we liked a lot the default font.

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Jun 18 20:57

I'm so happy for all of you ! Special thanks goes to the guy from Holland that did the original guide. And to my friend Aquanox from Peru. I just translated and added some stuff to be easy in use by beginers.

About your question, open the STL file in Notepad and you can see there in the first line...name, size, bold, italic, underline, position, colors :wink:

Test them all !

alphafann posted 2004 Jun 19 03:30

Hi.
I did follow the guide...
and had unsatisfying result.
So I want to ask few questions.

First of all I wanted to put ".smi" korean subtitle to the DVD movie.
I think I did managed to put it somehow in the end, but it showed some weird looking language with numbers as if it didn't support korean language. Does this mean I can't use ".smi" subtitle file to change to .srt format?

Also, I only put the movie .vob movie files in "Final DVD" folder, and didn't bother with the menu, option, and extra stuffs. If I want to burn the whole thing with the new subtitle in it, do I have to put those extras in the "Final DVD" folder same as I did for .vob movie files??

Thank You

Aquanox posted 2004 Jun 19 08:15

alphafann: First of all... Wich guide did you follow? the one in the main post or the latest linked by Matrix (see his latest replies).

In general, smi files can be converted to .stl format in Subtitle Workshop, so you shouldn't have any problems with that.

Although, Asian Languages is a diffrent subject, the guide works just good in all cases, but in yours it has maybe more to do with language compatibility than the method effectiveness, open the .stl result with notepad and check if it shows your characters correctly.

Wookie3K posted 2004 Jun 19 10:11

OMG dudes...

This new guide almost exactly describes what I used to do before I came along TheMatrixx's guide about the sup files, in my opinion working with sup files still rulez, it just sucks that the subs sometimes dissappear (weird), but the whole workaround with maestro takes so long if you want to keep some original subs from the dvd you know? Gotta rip 'm first with subrip into a .son format, usually subrip fooks this up with the colors and all. I know it's possible by tweaking subrip a bit, but it's so time consuming. I did it once, the result is perfect... but it will take looooong...

Grtz.

Aquanox posted 2004 Jun 19 14:59

I dunno you, but if you have a decent amount of Subrip Matrixes, (like me :P ), subrip will surely find one that matches with the ones that you're ripping since almost all of them use the same fonts. In that case, it's around 2 minutes per added sub, and if you already have the exact matrix, it'll do it automatically even faster. That's nothing in my opinion.

In the other hand, if you don't have matrixes, you're basically fucked up :D but, we all have been beginers once. :D.

For ppl in general, notice that this is only necessary if you wanna keep the original subs, most people will only wanna keep Eng subs and the ones in their language so that's a piece of cake :D

All this process depends a lot on the system you're running it on. Takes around 30 mins in a 2.4Ghz P4, 512RAM 7200rpm Hard Disc. Again, it's NOTHING compared to other less effective methods.

Regards.

eVita posted 2004 Jun 19 19:50

TheMatrixx :

I'm so happy for all of you !

Dear TheMatrixx, I should like to be happy too, please help me, S.O.S!

The situation:
The original content of DVD:

VIDEO_TS.BUP 12 288
VIDEO_TS.IFO 12 288
VIDEO_TS.VOB 10 240
VTS_01_0.BUP 45 056
VTS_01_0.IFO 45 056
VTS_01_0.VOB 2 502 656
VTS_01_1.VOB 1 073 739 776
VTS_01_2.VOB 1 073 739 776
VTS_01_3.VOB 558 796 800
VTS_02_0.BUP 36 864
VTS_02_0.IFO 36 864
VTS_02_0.VOB 10 240
VTS_02_1.VOB 1 073 739 776
VTS_02_2.VOB 898 095 104

The original film consists of 2 parts + a menu at the beginning, and has no any subtitle at all.
The menu has 2 buttons: [part 1] and [part 2]. The parts start depending on which button is pushed. But when the part 1 is finished, the part 2 starts automatically.

Part 1 starts with the VTS_01_1.VOB and Part 2 starts with the VTS_02_1.VOB
I have type DVD-5, the film originally was in avi file (downloaded from a digital filmcamera).

I have to insert into the film subtitles in different languages.
I began to hunt infos everywhere, mainly on the net. I found a lot of infos, programs, guides, but none of them gives me the perfect final solution. I kept trying without final succes.
I was happy finding this TheMatrixx's guide and I thougt: yes, this is the real thing! This looks clear, perfect, detailed. I started to work based exectly on the guide. Everything looks good step by step. BUT: at the and the film is perfectly the same than the original: the subtitle disappeared. I tried again and again.
I made a subtitle file according to your guide and insert into the Part 1.
I worked only with VTS_01_0.VOB and VTS_01_0.IFO files although the Part 2 also needs subtitles, but first I should like to see how does the process works - wether works at all.

The output .IFO of the Step 4 (Multiplex) in "Final DVD" folder still contains the subtitle: I can check it with IfoEdit. And it appears when I play this multiplexed part of the film with PowerDVD.

From Step 5c I can't see any sign of subtitle anywhere. It disappears.
I suspect the Step 5a: how does the infos of subtitle in IFO file in "Final DVD" folder go through if we erase it? We move only the new VOB files to "Original DVD" folder accordingly your guide. Do the VOB files contain any necessary info about the subtitle for the next process?

The menu not important now, it would be throw away now. This moment the most important: the 2 part into 1: playable continuously with at least 1 subtitle. Later I have to find the real solution: more subtitle selectable form a menu.

I have hot deadline for this work and I'm in deep despair :-(
Please please help me!
I would commit myself to you forever :-)
eVita

alphafann posted 2004 Jun 19 21:23

Ok... :idea:
I did managed to do it right this time.
The reason why my .smi korean subtitle didn't work at first was because I didn't choose the right korean font. Anyway it's been solved and thanks for the help.

Now I have few other question. (For the Guide 1)

1)On STEP 3- D...
I have to rename the subtitle(exactly same as old) that I want to put and replace it with the old one in the "original movie" folder. What if I want to keep this original subtitle? How do I have to name the new one? Let say the original movie subtitle is VTS_01_0.20.sup. If I want to put my New subtitle without replacing the old one, do I have to name it VTS_01_0.21.sup? Then will I able to choose any of those two later on?

2)I don't know the point of STEP 5- C & D(Using IFOEdit for the "Final DVD" folder) on the first guide.
After I choose the right color in "supremap" step, the subtitle I want is already in the "original movie" folder. Can I just burn that without going further step?

I am sorry for keep asking such questions.
I will appreciate if you can answer the questions.
Thank You :D

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Jun 20 14:56

eVita & alphafann forget the guide from here. Work with the new guide.

Wookie3K posted 2004 Jun 20 17:26

Aquanox :

Dude, I don't use matrixes because I do not OCR the subs into text, I rip the bmp's and reenter them, so basicly matrixes have nothing to do with this. Why make bitmaps into text and then into bitmaps again?? That makes no sense.
I'ts the fooking around with colours that takes a while, but one\ce you know the trick it's okay.

Aquanox posted 2004 Jun 20 17:45

Well, it depends on you, i'm very happy with the default, shadowy and outlined white fonts. Though color chaging will take you more time, it's one's election if you wanna keep your custom colors, and have the subs dissapeared in the middle of the movie. Or change them to the ones in DVD Maestro with perfectly running subs.
Changing BMP to Text and then to BMP again?... if it's faster and you like the final result, why not?
Anyways, you can always change it's colors, if you're patient enough. Again, it's one's choice.

eVita posted 2004 Jun 21 06:08

TheMatrixx :

eVita & alphafann forget the guide from here. Work with the new guide.

Hi TheMatrixx!
Well, I never forget the old guide :roll:.
I mixed it's steps with a new one's ( :idea: the missing link was just IfoUpdate! ) and now I'm standing very next to the gate of the success:
My "Final" DVD is like the original (keeping the original menu + 2 parts playable cuntinuously + the new subtitle). Later I will tell you more about it, but now I'm not finshed my work with all 2 parts.

BUT! I have a new but not totally fatal problem :(
:?: Please help me again I'm begging. When playing the newly readymade DVD files with PowerDVD, the subtitle desappeard when I rewind/position the film forward or back and never come back unless I start again from the beginning. When I don't tuch it and let the film alone playing in normal current from the beginning, the subtitles appeard on the screen very right. What could be the reason? What can I do to keep the subtitle on the screen when positioning to and fro? (The subtitle cannot positionable with the image / sound??) :?:

I'm very very thanxful for your help :) eVita

eVita posted 2004 Jun 21 06:13

:( Sorry for my English mistakes. Correction: appeard := appear, desappeard := disappear/s . Sorry, sorry :(

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Jun 21 07:40

Hi eVita, about your problem with the subtitles....you said you mixed the guides...don't do that....i repeat DON'T do that. It is important that you do the whole process after the new guide :!:

Very important thing is the multiplex process :!:

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Jun 21 07:48

I updated the guide today 21/06/04 :!:

- new option in Ifo Update (you can do time search now on Standalone and PC).

Guide can be found here.

Good luck !

eVita posted 2004 Jun 21 10:36

TheMatrixx :

Hi!
The problem is: you forgot mention from where can be downloaded the DVD Maestro?. I can't find and my deadline is here.
And forgot to tell wether that program is freeware or not? I'm poor.
You forgot to answer me to my receantly problem: why doesn't work the process described on the old guide. If we delete the new IFO file, how will go the new informations into the IFO files in "original" DVD folder?
Why is wrong the old guide? Is not good IfoEdit for the multiplex process that you've written in old guide?
I wonder: did you ever work based on process written in old guide and new one?
I'm sad that you don't answer me in fact.
:( eVita :(

Aquanox posted 2004 Jun 21 11:10

Evita:
There are many ways to get/download it, but is up to the users to do that. We can't advice how to get pirated software. Although, PMing the ones who already have it in this topic, might somehow help. ;)

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Jun 21 11:29

Hi eVita, i'm sorry too that I didn't answer it...but if you read all the posts from here...all are errors posted by users :!: :!: Why :?: Don't ask me why, becouse I did 20 DVD's with the old guide and except one or two, all have a perfect result. I think is becouse we all live in different countrys, and the DVDs are made different...or mabye I was just lucky. And I think your problem with the old guide is somewhere in all this posts.

I DID NOT forget to put a link to DVD Maestro, it is NOT FREE software, but also it is not for sale anymore. So if you found a link on the internet to download it's good or ask it from someone who have it, mabey right here in this forum. (but in Private).

YES Ifo Edit and ReJig have problems when Multiplexing, on the other hands IfoEdit is a very good tools to edit IFO files. But the multiplexing part it's not good yet.

And you can't compare a FREE tool with one that cost $5.000 (like DVD Maestro)....and Maestro dose both NTSC and PAL, why should not all have this grate tool ?

I'm poor

...SO AM I :!: I live in ROMANIA remember ? It's close to your country.

So again I'M VERY VERY SORRY THAT YOU THINK I DIDN'T ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, I will in the next post.

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Jun 21 12:12

Dear eVita,

...at the and the film is perfectly the same than the original: the subtitle disappeared.

So I said almost everybody from here had the same problem as you, and I answer it....I can't do anything about disappearing subtitles, you just have to press the Subtitle button on the remote and reload the subtitle, you have to do this a couple of times in the whole movie. But if you multiplex with DVD Maestro you will not have this problem anymore.

Do the VOB files contain any necessary info about the subtitle for the next process?

The subtitle is in the VOB files :!:....the information is in the IFO files, but you said at the begining that the DVD had no subtitle at all. So my guide is not made for DVDs with no subtitle at all.

I wonder: did you ever work based on process written in old guide and new one?

No i didn't, the old guide is my work from zero to what you can see, and the new one it's just better than mine, and i just make it a little better. BTW, with this one you can put subtitles on DVDs that don't have at all (like yours).

I would commit myself to you forever :)

You don't have to, but you can give me your ID on MSN or Yahoo and I can help you there as much as you want.
So I hope I helped you, and I wait for a mail (thematrix at go.ro) or private messeage here, with your ID.

I want you to be happy also :wink:

Wookie3K posted 2004 Jun 21 13:36

Aquanox :

Yeah yer right, in these cases faster is better, but take a dvd like love actually, where the original subtitles appear all over the screen, in these cases I want to keep the original subs... But like you said it's a choice you have to make, I like to keep the dvd as original as possible, and once you get the hang of it colors and subtitles are as easy as 1-2-3 in dvdmaestro.
________________

Oh, and about where to get DVDMaestro, Overnet is your friend.

eVita posted 2004 Jun 22 00:19

Aquanox :

Dear Aquanox + TheMatrixx: I don't remember that I asked pirated software, do you?
I don't like pirated software and I have no enough money, so I'm looking for free programs all the time.
In this case I just want to help one of my friends who made a (amateur) film with his own camera. His film was prize-winner on some local filmfesztival in our country and now he entered to some competition abroad so the film needs subtitles in some other languages.
I think, I'll not make subtitles to films too frequently later and I did this work not for money to my friend. My only "profit" are: feeling the succes and being richer with new knowledge.
So I'll not buy an expensive sw while I can found free ones, especially in the case that I'm not rich.
Well, I'm tired now: I worked on the film+subtitle night and day, but it's READY!!!: the result is the same than the original on the DVD disk plus one subtitle. My next task is to add more subtitles to this one DVD.
And I have some less problem in the process.
But I have to sleep now. Thanx everybody the messages.
I'll return later. Bye bye.
eVita :sleepin:

Toverfee posted 2004 Jun 22 05:52

Hi Matrix, seems to be a full time job, answering al those replies. I have trouble with mine. My menu is an animated menu with video background. What happens: If I follow the guide, he ads the subtitles in the video_ts.ifo just as asked, but when I move the VOB files tot the original DVD, or he cuts out my menu, and there is no access to the movie, or if I leave the VOB (03.0) and put only the ones with the movie, the menu is there, but no link to the movie. I think the problem is that the movie and the menu are in the same IFO file. And because I can't access the movie, I can't see if the correct subtitles are in. If I check with IFOedit the Video_TS file, it gives me the "old" subtitle.About the "old" subtitle: I have the choice in the original DVD to : no subtitles, English and Dutch. I want to add French subtitles. So I took the ripped subtitle file name for the "no subtitle" Is this wrong? (I want to keep the English and Dutch subtitles). This is for the Return of the King, and I want to give him to somebody as a goodbye present. This somebody is leaving at the end of this month so I'm running out of time to play around, and try things out. So if you please can help me?

eVita posted 2004 Jun 22 07:21

Toverfee:
I think there are missing some important details from your message.:

- Could you copy here the list of content of your DVD directory/folder? - the filenames and sizes?
- Do you know which VOB files contain the main parts of the film, and in which is the menu? Or is there any other extra in some VOB files?
- Do u want get DVD-5 disk type output ?
- "I think the problem is that the movie and the menu are in the same IFO file." - what does it mean? Could u copy the concerned part of the IFO file here? Or insert an image of that?
- "I follow the guide" - which guide? The old one or the new one? It's a different!
- not totally clear to me which steps you did and in which combination.
- " VOB (03.0)" - what is the number 03.0?

I'm asking these questions becouse my suffering is finished just now concerning a (I think:)similar problem and I get it. My prize is a great success. And I should like to help u if I can...

Best regards. eVita.

Biodroid posted 2004 Jun 22 07:45

hello to all,
This is for Mr.Matrix, i am triyng to replaced the french subtiltled with the spanish subtitled in my original copy of BadBoys 2, the DVD is already compressed, all works ok but when i play the DVD on the HD in the first chapter when the Columbia logo appears the subtitles begin to appear too. what can I do. thank's

p.d. When i check only the first VOB in Subtitler Workshop the sinchronization is ok

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Jun 22 09:50

Hi Toverfee, first....the subtitle is not in VIDEO_TS.IFO file. It's in the first IFO file of the main movie (e.g. VTS_01_0.IFO or VTS_02_0.IFO). As eVita said....please make a screenshot of the original files of the disc and upload it here. The menu is in most cases in the VTS_XX_0.VOB file (a big one in most cases).
I don't really understand what you want to do....about the "no subtitle" link in the menu....that is only a link. I understand that you want to keep the subtitles from the movie....but if the movie has only 2...that means you want to ADD ....NOT to replace...and this is a little difficult.

Plese see the guide from here also. Mabey it will be helpfull to you.

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Jun 22 09:51

Hi Biodroid, well this is another problem...many users ask me how to sync the subtitle...but the only good mettod it takes very long. But if you want that movie so bad, you will have no chance....so here it is again.

You have to rip an orginal subtitle from the disc with SubRip in SRT format (let's say a english one....couse english it's the most popular language). After rip is complet and you saved the SRT file, open it with Notepad. Open also with Notepad the subtitle file that you found it for the movie in your language (also in SRT format). Now look at the first line....it will look like this:

THIS IS ONLY AN EXAMPLE !

1
00:00:20,100 --> 00:00:21,600
Here it is people. Let's start this shit.

and the one in french it's like this:

1
00:00:12,435 --> 00:00:13,200
Ici c'est les gens. Début de Let's cette merde.

So you can see the difference. So all the lines are delayed ofcourse.
The question now will be...what can you do to fix this.

You have 2 ways:

1. Open the french subtitle in Subtitle Workshop and hit CTRL+B, a window will appear. In that window enter the time FIRST time code of the FIRST line of the english subtitle...and in the next enter the FIRST time code of the LAST line of the english subtitle. Now hit Adjust button. Save the file and open the both again with Notepad and compare the times....ofcourse now at the begining of the subtitle and at the end will be the same as the original one. BUT in many cases in the middle WILL BE DELAYED ! :( ...so you need the second way.

2. This is the longest but the PERFECT way to do it right. Open both subtitles with Notepad and LINE BY LINE copy ONLY the text....from the french one OVER the english one...till the end of the subtitle...YES 1000 LINES....but will be a PERFECT french subtitle with the time codes from the original one. This can take 3-4 hours !

Good Luck.

Toverfee posted 2004 Jun 22 12:23

Well Matrix, what I mean with "no subtitles" is indeed that if you click on the no subtitles button you will get than my subtitle. But because of this "No" I was wundering if this would just switch of the subtitling. I get 3 subtitles when I rip the DVD. English - Dutch and again English. This 3rd one, if I turn this on, I get no subtitles, so I assume this is the "no subtitling" part. I'm going to try your new guide. Hope it works. Otherwhise you see a cry for help again from me. Thanks already!

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Jun 22 12:34

Yes try it....but if you want 3 subtitles, rip first the english and dutch from the disc and along with your language subtitle enter them in DVD Maestro...(in STL format ofcourse - see in the guide) after that follow the mini-guide at the end of the subtitles guide so you can see all 3 subtitles.

P.S. : You CAN'T put a subtitle in the "no subtitle" link ....as I said it's just a simple link with a command that sets subtitles off. :wink:

Toverfee posted 2004 Jun 22 15:00

I'm trying to get DVD Maestro, takes a little time. Could it work for DVD LAB Pro? They have a full working trial version (Beta).

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Jun 23 08:17

I don't know if DVD Lab Pro will do the job, I didn't work with it. Sorry.

Toverfee posted 2004 Jun 23 08:57

DVD LAB PRO is great if you start from nothing. And it "looked like" the screenshots I already saw from DVD Maestro. Normally in a couple of hours I'm home again on my "video-dvd computer" and shall see what DVD Maestro is doing (or is supposed to do :wink: ). Maybe for the futur if DVD LAB PRO can do the same, and Maestro is not availble anymore, could be an alternatif.

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Jun 23 09:23

I have DVD Lab Pro home, but I didn't work with it that much, I did just a menu for a DVD with it. If you think it can do that job well....be my guest :D

Have fun !

Toverfee posted 2004 Jun 23 15:57

I tried DVD MAestro but he won't let me insert the video file (The video asset length is greater than the maximum allowed. (My video file is 3:12:46:16) So I can't let him insert this video file in the timeline. I try DVD LAB PRO, and let you know.

Toverfee posted 2004 Jun 24 05:49

Latest report :
DVD LAB PRO did the job for 95%: 1) I can see the movie in the Final DVD folder (I mean he's playable) , 2) I can select the subtitles in different langauges, but this morning (before going to work) I selected the French subtitle and I don't see the subtitles themselfs. I assume the reason herefore can be two things (correct me if I'm wrong) : Or the color settings from the subtitles are so that they are invisabel on the movie, or, the "masterdata" from the subtitles has to be in a specific folder so the "compiler" can find the correct data. I have to check this with the english subtitle, because last time I could see this on the movie. Would be for this evening. Fingers crossed !

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Jun 24 07:36

You can't see it becouse it's not in the IFO file. Look at the end of my new guide....there is a link to another guide, mabey it will help you.

Toverfee posted 2004 Jun 25 04:48

I found out what was wrong: DVD LAB PRO Beta version 3 and 4 didn't allow more than one subtitle. And version 5 will not mux :x, So result : I switched to Pinnacle Impression Pro to make the final movie, because DVD Maestro doesn't allow me to put a video file from more than 3 hours. Maybe this can help people with a similar problem. It sure keeps people bizzy ! 8)

eVita posted 2004 Jun 25 15:24

Hello TheMatrixx!
Sorry for my late answering but I'm so exhausted becouse of my struggle with the subtitles and put together all parts of the film and my work is not completed yet, I have to make srt files in some other languages and correct the timings.

TheMatrixx :

I think is becouse we all live in different countrys, and the DVDs are made different...or mabye I was just lucky. And I think your problem with the old guide is somewhere in all this posts.

No no no dear TheMatrixx, I've wrote already that a missing step was only one: to put the infos of the new subtitle from the new IFO file into the old one with IFOUpdate. That was a problem and nothing else.
Nevertheless I'm very thankful for your guides and the the posts becouse I picked up the suitable steps, programs, infos, weblinks from them and put together for my needs, and now I enjoy the success. Thanx very very much. Later I'll post here all my succesful steps/process.

I DID NOT forget to put a link to DVD Maestro, it is NOT FREE software, but also it is not for sale anymore. So if you found a link on the internet to download it's good or ask it from someone who have it, mabey right here in this forum. (but in Private).

Thanx but I don't need DVD Maestro for the present I think. The marvelous freeware programs and your guides helped to solve my great problem. Thanxxxxxxxxx!!!

And you can't compare a FREE tool with one that cost $5.000 (like DVD Maestro)....and Maestro dose both NTSC and PAL, why should not all have this grate tool ?

Well while I can work out the problem with free programs and I'm not a rich than I cannot buy expensive program, sorry.

...SO AM I :!: I live in ROMANIA remember ? It's close to your country.

Yes I noticed at once that we live close to each other :)

Now I have a -not fatal but - problem. Maybe u can give me an advice for this also. The French text contains some special characters. In Subtitle Workshop I can see them correctly. When I see in my Opera browser It depends on View/encoding setting.
In my favorite text editor, Context (but in other editors too - like notepad) I can see this characters changed. The main problem is that while playing films whith PowerDVD or standalone player these characters don't looks correctly also (are the same than in Context, Notepad, etc...)
Would be some setting encoding caracter-table in players? Or what to do? It's not too polite to show wrong characters to French audience, is it?
Please help me again, please...
(I've not any MessengerID now, sorry, just mail address...)
I'm wait for your reply with a great excitement. :|
eVita

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Jun 26 11:54

Hi eVita, well I know the french caracters, so the ideea is like this....the subtitle on the DVD movie is a BMP image (Bitmap) so it's like making a picture to someone :wink: . In concluzion it's not from a setting on the DVD Player (PC or Standalone). So the only thing you have to do is to set up french language on your PC from the Control Panel->Regional Settings (Windows).

Toverfee posted 2004 Jun 28 02:48

Dear Matrixx,

Thanks a lot! I did it. It works! With all the links etc...
And .... guess what: If I click on the "no subtitle" button, I get my French subtitles. Remeber : in the beginning I asked you that, it was because when I stripped the DVD I saw 3 subitles : English, Dutch and again English. (Also with a stream) But when I clicked in the PC PLayer on the second English subtitles I got non. That's why I had the idea to link my French subtitels to the "no subtitle" button. And it worked. With DVD LAB Pro (Beta 5c) + your second guide it's a piece of cake. :wink: Thanks a lot for the guide and the help.

Wookie3K posted 2004 Jun 29 15:41

Hi TheMatrixx,

What should I do if my main movie is in a multi-PGC tileset? Ripping video and audio from all the vobs at once results in sync problems with audio/video. I tried ripping only the main movie, reauthored it, and tried pasting it back together with the other PGC's in the VOBs, but no luck...

Any answer to this??

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Jun 30 04:12

Hi Wookie3K, with what mettod did you try it ?

Wookie3K posted 2004 Jun 30 15:53

TheMatrixx :

Hi Wookie3K, with what mettod did you try it ?

I'll explain in about an hour, still at work now, please hold on.

Wookie3K posted 2004 Jun 30 18:47

TheMatrixx :

Hi Wookie3K, with what mettod did you try it ?

Well... first of all, let me describe the vob layout:

The main movie, plus some other stuff, is spread over 5 VOBs (VTS_04_1 - VTS_04_5) These vobfiles contain 4 PGCs, here's the layout:

VOBid 1: PGC2 (WB intro 12 secs.)
VOBid 2&3: PGC1 (Main Movie) (first 14 cells have VOBid 2 the rest have VOBid 3)
VOBid4: PGC3 (Some warnings)
VOBid5: PGC4 (PG rating)

Now what I tried to do was this:
Using DVDdecrypter in IFO-mode I ripped PGC1 (Main Movie) and enabled stream processing to demux the M2V file. So then I have a M2V file, chapter info, and a VOB file containg my audio sequence. Then used VOBEdit to demux audio and voila... I have all my assets.

Loaded 'm all into Maestro, including my new subs and compiled the bunch. Now try and follow me from here on... Because the resulting newly created VOBfiles all had VOBid 1 (And they should be 2&3) I turned the newly created dvd into an ISO and mounted it with DAEMON tools, opened dvddecrypter and ripped the VOBs containing the first 14 cells to a separate folder and the rest to another folder. I then Used "VOBEdit -> Edit -> Join Clips" to give the 14 cells VOBid2. Then I repeated this process to give the remaining cells VOBid 3.

After this whole ordeal I took my original DVD again and ripped the VOBs of the other 3 PGCs, after that I renamed them all so the VOBs are in the right order (by VOBid). So basicly I have my whole tileset again, but in this order:

VTS_04_1.VOB (Original PGC2 -> WB intro -> VOBid 1)
VTS_04_2.VOB (Reauthored PGC1 -> Movie (first 14 cells) -> VOBid 2)
VTS_04_3.VOB (Reauthored PGC1 -> Movie (remaining cells) -> VOBid 3)
VTS_04_4.VOB (Original PGC3 -> Some warnings -> VOBid4)
VTS_04_5.VOB (Original PGC4 -> PG rating -> VOBid4)

Then I just replaced the original VOBs with these ones, and fixed VTS_04_0.IFO with IFOedit so it would play right, but sadly the chapters were all screwed up, it listed Pg 1 to 10 and then 20 to 30. I have probably done something impossible here that's probably ridiculous as hell, but it looks kinda okay in my opinion.

And like I wrote earlier... I also tried demuxing the whole tileset at once but this created audio/video delay, this is the way I tried it: I opened DVDDecrypter in File mode, selected VTS_04_1.VOB - VTS_04_5.VOB, rightclicked the selected files, clicked stream processing, and enabled the M2V file to be demuxed and the rest to be copied directly into a VOB. After it finished, I demuxed the audio from the copied VOB with VOBEdit.

SO... any suggestions?

I hate writing these long explanations ;p

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Jul 01 01:50

Well, I don't see that you used Ifo Update. Why ? Mabey it will solve the whole problem. You used IfoEdit to patch the IFO movie file insted. DVD Maestro has an option for Multi-PGC, I will search for a multi-PGC movie and I will do some test later today and let you know how are the things with multi-PGC.

Wookie3K posted 2004 Jul 01 12:04

Read the next Post, somehow this one didn't show and I wrote it all over again in the next.

Wookie3K posted 2004 Jul 01 14:10

TheMatrixx :

Well... I've never had any problems with IFOEdit (except for the authoring part) and besides, I don't think I can use Ifoupdate the way described in your guide because the ifo files created by maestro are for the movie only, and not for all the PGC's like the original ones. I could use IFOupdate if I knew of a way to rip video and audio from an entire tileset without creating a weird delay. And yes... I know that IFOupdate has an option to create multiPGC chapter files... pretty handy. I hope you find some solution.

By the way... thanks for putting so much effort into helping people... You're pretty cool.

Wookie3K posted 2004 Jul 03 11:39

Well, TheMatrixx

stop hurting yer brain, I finally did it. I figured out how to fix a multiPGC movie with new subs... Anybody wanna know how? Let yerself be heard!

Flarup posted 2004 Jul 05 15:12

Hej Again The Matrix :)

Now I Finaly Get The Right Version DVDmastro :D And I Tryed Your New Guide, And It Seems To Work Great nd I also Seems To Be Easy To Use, I Have Just One Or Maybe Two Errors/Quistions :D When Im Lokking At The Length Of The Movie And The Length Of The Audio I Had Demuxed They Didn't Have The Same Length The Movie Is 1.40.29 And The Audio Is 1.41.10 ?? When I'm Testing My Finaly Result THe Audio Didn*t Match To The Movie, And THe Subtiteles Did not Either Match Even The Movie Or Audio :?

Now I'm Asking What Do I Wrong ?? Please Help Me ;)

zeiss posted 2004 Jul 06 07:06

can someone post a link to rejig 0.5d? site appears down and i can't find it on google. 0.5e is crashing every time, as predicted.

thanks!

Flarup posted 2004 Jul 06 14:42

zeiss :

can someone post a link to rejig 0.5d? site appears down and i can't find it on google. 0.5e is crashing every time, as predicted.

thanks!

You can't find rejig on the web any longer I Think you havbe to finde it on emule or overnet ;9

Flarup posted 2004 Jul 06 14:46

Now I Finaly get the picture and subtitle matching, but the audio is still out of sync, what do I wrong ??

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Jul 08 14:49

Hi Flarup. try demuxing the audio directly from the DVD with VobEdit. (Demux All Audio Streams). Let me know if it works. Post a screenshot of the Maestro after you have loaded the *.m2v file and the *.ac3 files, i wanna see the timings. IF THE DVD HAS MORE AUDIO FILES PUT THEM ALL TO SEE THE TIMINGS.

Flarup posted 2004 Jul 09 16:03

TheMatrixx :

Thank you The Matrix I will try that :9

I have just right a little quistion, In The meen time I tryde wtih another movie (Hellboy) I worked fine In DVD maestro But When I try to updat the ifo file I get an error "VTS_08_1.srm is not correctly sized on sector boundary. ABORTING" Can yuo please tell what that meens

Hurricane posted 2004 Jul 11 07:23

Hello Matrixx,

I can't reach your guide to add subtitles.

(www.rodvd.tk)

Is your website down??

Fitik posted 2004 Jul 12 16:46

can anyone post a link for ReJig 0.5d, cant find it anywhere.
or contact me at zimcikf@seznam.cz or icq #66986178..
tnx

handyguy posted 2004 Jul 12 17:30

That seems a lot of work, so here are my alternatives.

I prefer to just play the dvd with the subs on, on the source dvd player, then record on a dvd on a dvd recorder, recording to a dvd. The result? Open subs perfectly timed on a dvd. Amount of time, about a minute, not including recording time.

For a dvd that has no subs, but does have Closed Captions. Play on the source dvd player & run the signal through a Telecaption II using the video caption out on the back, record on a dvd recorder. The result? A dvd with open captions that doesn't require a captioned tv to see. Amount of time, about a minute, not including recording time.

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Jul 13 15:29

Hi all,

Flarup, IGNORE the *.srm files (this are generated by SubRip when you rip the subtitle). You have to enter in IfoUpdate the IFO file of the movie VTS_08_1.IFO.

Hurricane, check out this link

Fitik I send you by email the ReJig software. But I strongly recommand that you use the new guide.

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Jul 13 15:32

I updated the guide today 13/07/04.

- Added option to select PAL or NTSC as the original movie is.
- Added option to select the proper Aspect Ration of the movie (4:3/16:9/Pan&Scan).

Guide can be found here.

Flarup posted 2004 Jul 14 03:23

heyThe Matrixx I couldn't find out a way to upload my screenshot, but I can Tell you so much, that It dosn't help the length of the movie and audio is still different, I have the same problem with the movie "the Perfect Scrore" but when I demux The movie in VobEdit the lengt of movie and audio is the same, (this is not the result with the Starsky And Hutch Withch I start to taalk aabout), but if use the m2v file from vobedit I can't insert the chaapterfile from dvddecrypter so I still ahve some problems ;)

snigel posted 2004 Jul 14 07:20

Great job. But DVDMaestro can't (or I cannot) make multiple PGC :shock: .
Is it possible to make multi-PGC DVD with DVDMaestro?

DVD-Lab Pro works fine with this, so I did copy "The Matrix" which is multi-PGC, though I got problems with menu (it doesn't work 100% - but 70-90% :lol: ). But the problem with DVDLab is that you can add only 2 subtitles to a movie. Have you any clues?

Snigel.

Anyone_xx posted 2004 Jul 15 06:26

Hi there.
I must say it´s a great guide. Done 4 movies within just a few days, and everything works great. DVDMeastro is not new for me so....
But; I do have one question:

Is there any way to change the text in the menu? I mean, when I have changed the subtitle from one language to another, it would be great to be able to change the text.

Pls, if you know....

/AnY

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Jul 15 11:18

Hi Anyone_xx, yes it is posible...but I don't know how. Sorry. Mabey I will found how to do that someday. :wink:

jlspiderman posted 2004 Jul 19 10:53

Hello eveyone:
Is there any way to use the last guide with shrunk movies. :!: Thanks

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Jul 19 12:52

Hi, jlspiderman and welcome to the forum. If you mean shrunk movies by DVD-5 or 4.7 Gb DVD movies...the answer is YES.

Why do you ask ? Do you have a problem ?

Flarup posted 2004 Jul 22 01:05

I still need some help when I update in Ifoupdate I get an message who tells me that the vta_04_0.Bup is wrong sized

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Jul 22 04:20

Flarup please make a screenshot of the error and post it here or send it in my private messages box !

USiT posted 2004 Jul 22 20:27

Hello

TheMatrixx

I have tried your new guide and it works nice as hell...

The only problem is that the movie "crashes" whene it comes to the end of the movie. At the really end of the movie after the end credits it gets black and nothing happens. Is there anyway to fix so it jumps back to the menu?

Thx 4 a good translate of a very good guide
USiT

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Jul 23 08:07

Hi, USiT as I told you in your email...please put subtitle on another movie....2-3 movies...and see if are all the same at the end. If it's only this one....well...it happens some time. But if all are gonna crash at the end and not come back to the menu as supposed, I guess you are doing something wrong. Check very carefully all the options at IfoUpdate as in the guide picture.

Good luck.

Flarup posted 2004 Jul 26 15:43

Text in the warning Box "Chapter point position is invalid since it would violate the minimum allowable chapter length (0xc10c000b)"

Can any one please help me to explain this ;)

Flarup posted 2004 Jul 26 16:05

And What about this ;) can any one please explain what that means :)

Text I this Warning Box "Asset overlapping detected.This can cause unexpected behavior. Choose undo to go bavk to the preious Or choose "list all subtitles" / the offending subtitles will be highlighted in red) and adjust the asset as requied"

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Jul 27 00:40

Flarup...the second warning ...the one with the Asset overlaping.....is from the subtitles...so enter the subtitles in SRT format in Subtitle Workshop and hit CTRL+I and fix the errors....till will be none...after you fix the errors save the subtitle as STL format and enter it in DVD Maestro again. This should take about half an hour....let me know is the warning still appears.

About the first warning....this a little hard....it's from the chapters...you must have a very short chapter...i have a movie like this...with a chapter at 1 minute....but you must have a chapter smaller than that....check the original movie and tell me if you have a chapter smaller than a minute or so. :wink:

panoplos posted 2004 Jul 27 08:51

Hi to all,
I'm having some problems with SubRip. I rip the subs from the original dvd and when I open the file in Subtitles Workshop most of the lines overlaping. I try to fix them but still some of them are overlap.
Why is this? I mean I rip the subs from the original dvd.
Someone help...

Flarup posted 2004 Jul 27 20:30

TheMatrixx :

It Worked Great :d

Now I Will Take On a 3 week's vacation to Balaton Füred in Hungary :D See You Later :)

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Jul 28 05:04

Very good than !

Have fun :wink: 8)

duckjuice posted 2004 Jul 29 03:36

Hello TheMatrixx,

First of all, I want to say, THANK YOU. Thank you for being so knowledgeable -- and so willing to share. While the various guides you have out there did not apply to my situation completely in a step-by-step fashion, I have had gratifying -- and repeatable success them.

I write to you now thinking that maybe sharing MY success might be worthwhile to someone reading the forum.

MY SITUATION:

I have recently authored a DVD of my old Super8 Film School projects from 20 years ago (anyone interested in the transfer equipment should wirte to me; I don't want to turn this forum into an advertisement for modified projectors). I've been having a great time editing my DV and authoring disks.

Then it suddenly hit me that I could share my films with my in-laws in Mexico. The thing is, most of them speak only Spanish, and I'm sorry to say I speak (and made films in the past) only in English. The solution? Add subtitles to my DVD! Unfortunately, only the NEXT version of my editing and authoring packages support subtitlles.

TheMatrixx :

Well, I can identify with Evita here. I found that I HAD to use both guides because 1) I'm currently out-of-work and can't afford DVD Maestro to remux and 2) the guide that instructs on how to use the much cheaper Rejig doesn't mention using IFOUpdate.

After digging into the guides, I was stumped. I was having problems getting the IFOs configured well enough to turn on the subpicture attribute, mostly because the DVD of my old projects never had subtitles to begin with.

After running Rejig to remux all the original desired streams plus my new subtitles, dropping the VOBs back into the original DVD folder with the original IFOs seemed to keep killing my subpicture attributes on all my title sets. This is where IFOUpdate came in handy, it really seemed to look at the "Rejig authored" IFO and the original IFO and seemed to synthesize a useable NEW IFO -- except for the VIDEO_TS.IFO.

I wasn't sure if I should try using IFOUpdate to generate a new VIDEO_TS.IFO, or something else. The fact is, IFOUpdate was erroring out on me when I tried using it to synthesize a new VIDEO_TS... Here's what I ended up doing. I used IFOUpdate to correct the VTS Sectors on the original VIDEO_TS.IFO. Then I went in manually and turned on the subprciture attributes in each VTS entry in the original VIDEO_TS.IFO. I opened up the original VIDEO_TS.IFO file in IFOEdit, clicked on the VMC_VTS_ATRT, then went to the lower pane of the IFOEdit GUI and set VTSTT_VOBs from zero to one.

jorlando posted 2004 Jul 31 20:41

I used the tips in this guide to add subtitles and a new audio track for a DVD that I have. A few comments:

I'm using the AUTHOR option in IFOedit to remux the VOB with the new audio and subtitles.

there is a funny bug with IFOedit when the source .m2v is NTSC, that says that the file is shorter than it reali is (around 17%, i.e, as if the file was PAL 25fps instead of NTSC 30fps)

IFOedit doesn't have an NTSC/PAL option, is hardcoded. I assume that

a) the author considered only PAL movies
b) the tool should auto-detect 30 or 25 FPS and generate accordingly, but that operation is faulty

the effects:
- the movie plays the correct duration, powerdvd's time indicator stops at 1:17:34, but the movie plays more 17 minutes.
- subtitles and audio are syncronized with the movie, so I assume that during the multiplex fase IFOedit correctly identifies the movie as 30fps and puts subtitles and audio in the right places
- the chapters are extracted from the original DVD as a CELTIMES.TXT file, but the chapters are in the worng place, when playing the movie.

it seems that is during the chapters creation proccess that the bug shows it´s ugly face. the chapter's timing error isn't constant all over the file, so I can't just multiply the values from CELLTIMES.TXT by 0.8333 to get the correct values, it is a trial and error process.

It leads to a problem that some people mentioned: recgnizing less chapters than the DVD actually have. It's easy to explain: IFOedit wrongly calculates the movie as an smaller size, so the CELLTIME.TXT has values that are "outside" the movie. To avoid this recalculate all the values multiplying then by 0.833. Repeating, it won't give the corrects chapters positions, but you can use it as a reference to change values by hand later.

I should use Rejig instead of IFOedit, but I could only find the 0.5e version, that crashes in my computer or generates a bad VOB, so I think that I must wait for a newer version of IFOedit.

DVD Maestro is expensive and also not perfect: if the movie has a layer break info (to hide an easter egg, for example), DVD MAestro will think that the movie is shorter than it really is.

So, considering price, size and other things, I'll stay with IFOedit, VOBedit and the other free tools

me2000 posted 2004 Aug 01 18:10

hi Matrix....you have done a GREAT work indeed....no doubt it ....nevertheless i do have 3 problemes i wish you can help me with ..

1- when i finish burnning the "original file" using CloneDVD i run to my DVD player to see the result and watch my movie with my fav subtitle ...BUT i "awlays ..i repeat " awalys" get a small font subtitle ...no matter how many times i change the font size using subtitle workshop still i get small font ...i have to be close to TV in order to read it !!!.....is there any way i can control the font size of my subtitle so that i can sit and see my movie and not to stick my face on my TV's screen :-).....P.S i found programs that will do a subtitle but with a balck background which i hate to use ...i only want the subtitle shown.

2- when i play the "new" DVD i don't get the warning or the logo or anything that the orignal DVD shows ...i thought that we only use VOB files that conain the movie and nothing else ....even the "extra" that i have on the orignal DVD i don't have it on the "new" DVD ...each time i click on "extra" the screen "freeze"..so i have to reject the DVD and play it again ...is there away around this ?

3- is there away that i can add my new subtitle as an option in the subtitle menue?... also i have on my DVD... 2 subtitles "English" and " Japnese" ...the same thing to my audio ...and i want to add my fav subtitle to those but without losing them and to put my new subtitle as i said as an a option in the menue....is that posible?...if it is then how?

thanks in advance to you or anyone who can help on this .

jorlando posted 2004 Aug 01 23:52

me2000,

1- you said "change the font size using subtitle workshop". subtitle workshop does not determine the font size. what program do you to generate the subtitle files? srt2sup? maestro? you must change the font size in these programs. the font size in subtitle workshop is just to give you an idea of the appearence of a given font. the black background is bexause you didn't selected it as "transparent"

2- if you don't have the extras, but select them and the DVD crash, I think it's somewhat expected

3- you can add subtitles, but to have then in the menu you need to edit the menu, and it by itself is very complicated and needs proper programs. add the extra subtitles and select them by remote

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Aug 02 02:19

Hi all.

me2000 : 1. If you use this guide you have to modify the text size in SRT2SUP, NOT Subtitle Workshop. (Look in the guide at STEP 2 - IMAGE 4, and hit the Global Font button to set the subtitle size and font.
If you use the new guide with DVD Maestro, you don't have to do nothing couse the font is set automaticaly. But if you want it bigger you can always open the STL file with NotePad and edit the size line, witch is 30 as default.

2. Please see the new guide with DVD Maestro from here (http://rodivx.xro.us), and insted of doing STEP 5 - section c) from this guide (VOB Extras with IfoEdit) do an IFO update as shown in the new guide, with IfOUpdate.

3. To add a link in the menu is VERY VERY hard thing to do, and I have no ideea how to do that. I think you must demux the menu and edit it some how...it's strange thing.... :roll:

jorlando, I give you an private message asking for your e-mail adress to send you the ReJig 0.5d software ! :)

Ryantje posted 2004 Aug 04 06:21

@TheMatrixx:

great guide but got a little problem

everything works fine till i play the movie
subtitles work fine in the beginning of the movie,
but towards the end they all get out of sync, even when theyre perfectly synched (even the original subtitles ripped with subrip)

i have this problem with every dvd

any idea?

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Aug 09 03:54

Ryantje, the movies are NTSC ?

Altamira posted 2004 Aug 09 05:33

Hello The MATRIXX,

First: Thank you for your work. I used it several times and it was realy good.
Second: I would like to get info about where can I find a ReJig 0.5d. Because the 0.5e realy makes error if I want to use it in NTSC DVD.

Please help.

Many thanks

Altamira

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Aug 09 07:23

Hi, Altamira....i can give u ReJig 0.5d like i did to many people from here...by e-mail. :wink: So drop an e-mail to my Gmail account, (ID - matrixdvd) and I will give you the software.

I don't know if you saw in here...but there is another guide, easy than this one. You can find it at http://rodivx.xro.us

HaCKwAR posted 2004 Aug 10 03:51

First of all... Thank u TheMatrixx for all ur efforts and ur time to help us out. I never thought I was able to find a fine and great tutorial to add subs to a authored dvd...
;)

Ryantje :

I have exactly the same problem.
The dvds are NTSC. I ripped the original subs to sync my language sub with it. I remux the dvd with the new sub and with the originals ripped from the dvd.. And, like Ryantje, all the subs are out of sync. (but they work fine in the beginning).
This is happening with all my dvds. I already use the IFOEDIT and the REJIG tutorial, and the subs works fine... But with IFOEDIT, I have some problems with the chapters I guess (the dvd stops playing in the middle of the movie). With REJIG, it takes too long (almost 4/5 hours).
The DVD MAESTRO tutorial is the best one... Easy and quick.. But , like I said, The subs are out of sync.
:(

cd090580 posted 2004 Aug 10 05:22

I've done a home dvd with Music Videos authored with tmpg dvd author.

Then I create all the subs with Subtitle Workshop (it takes a quite long time to create them :oops: because I need to timestamps them manually :lol: )

Then I followed the guide but I can't get the subtitles to work.
When I open the ifo "ready to be burned", there is no subtitles listed in ifo edit. And when I try to play it with powerdvd the subtitle menu is disabled.

Here is what i have in the ifo after multiplexing with ifoedit:

Title Set (movie) attributes:
Video: MPEG-2 720x576 (PAL) (PAL625/50) (4:3) (not specified perm. display)
Audio 1: English (Linear PCM) 2ch 48kbps 16bps (ID: 0xa0)
SubPicture 1: English (2-bit rle) (id:0x20)

And in the Final DVD ifo:

Title Set (movie) attributes:
Video: MPEG-2 720x576 (PAL) (PAL625/50) (4:3) (not specified perm. display)
Audio 1: English (Linear PCM) 2ch 48kbps 16bps (ID: 0xa0)

As you can see the SubPicture stream has disappeared.

What am I doing wrong ?

Thx

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Aug 10 09:15

HaCKwAR :

The DVD MAESTRO tutorial is the best one... Easy and quick.. But , like I said, The subs are out of sync.
:(

Hi HaCKwAR, as I said before on NTSC movies the subtitle will be good at the begining of the movie, but after a few minutes it will be delayed. This is becouse of the drop frame setting on the DVD Maestro (I think :wink: ). So, what you will need to do :

For NTSC, "InputFPS" will be 29.970 and "FPS" will be 30, as in the image below.

It's all that in the guide :wink:

BTW...to not forget...IF SOMEONE FINDS THE DROP FRAME SETTING IN DVD MAESTRO, PLEASE POST IT HERE !!!

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Aug 10 09:25

Hi cd090580, if I was having the IFO file in front of me, I would made it perfect :lol: . So, you can try 2 things, I saw that you followed the first tutorial, so PLEASE STOP at STEP 5 after multiplexing with IfoEdit. And after that please do the last step from the new guide ( http://rodivx.xro.us ), IFO Update STEP !

Or you can make the whole thing with the new guide :wink:

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Aug 10 09:48

Wookie3K :

Well, TheMatrixx

stop hurting yer brain, I finally did it. I figured out how to fix a multiPGC movie with new subs... Anybody wanna know how? Let yerself be heard!

:!: PLEASE LET US KNOW HOW YOU DID IT !?! :!:

I have many requests from my country about this multi-PGC shit !

cd090580 posted 2004 Aug 10 10:13

TheMatrixx :

Thx, I will try this evening to see if it works

EDIT: Thx for the IfoUpdate trick, that works very well now :)

HaCKwAR posted 2004 Aug 10 15:43

thanks thematrixx..
I'll try and see if it works..
Thanks for ur fast reply
;)

boeniz posted 2004 Aug 13 08:27

Wookie3k wrote:

stop hurting yer brain, I finally did it. I figured out how to fix a multiPGC movie with new subs... Anybody wanna know how? Let yerself be heard!

I hope you hear me... :) I am having a little problem with a movie that has more than one PGC, which results in the following error message when trying to compile in Maestro:

"The original IFO's PGC area is not large enough to hold the new PGC. ABORTING."

I believe it's due to the fact that there are two PGCs or am I wrong? Please let me know and what can I do to resolve this error?

Wookie3K posted 2004 Aug 14 21:11

Hello peeps, ít's been a long time...

K... here we go,

Before we start, this method will take loooooong, but will be perfect.

I haven't read any posts in this thread since my last post and i'm not intending to... so err... if you guys already solved how to fix a multipgc dvd, with original subs and a new sub... then i guess i'm writing this for nothing.

I managed to fix the NTSC version of "harskey and stutch" (multi-pgc) with new subs by replacing the spanish one, I could have kept them all by just adding a sub but i wanted my new sub to be selectable in the language menu. (i.e. when I select spanish I get my new dutch sub, I'm dutch you see :scratch: duh!

Okay, where to begin... err oh yeah the layout of the dvd, I can't really remember what the official layout of the original dvd was, so I'm making some of this stuff up. Let's just say the IFO of the tileset containing the main movie looks like this:

PGC1: The main movie - spread over VOBid's 2 and 3
PGC2: Some WB intro logo thingy - VOBid 1
PGC3: I really don't know, let's say some warnings - VOBid 4
PGC4: Some dvd company's logo - VOBid 5

Yeah I think it looked somewhat like that...

Now let's just ride along theMatrixx's guide for a while, but first were going to rip the original subs with subrip (or at least the two I wanna keep) SO... open up subrip (i'm not going to explain this program) and rip in dvdmaestro mode (.SON) You'll notice that this dvd provides subs in letterbox and widescreen mode, meaning english has two streams, as does french... So all summed up we'll be ripping four streams, and adding a fifth later on. You guys still with me? Good then you qualify to read on...

I just made four folder looking like this:

StarHutENwide
StarHutENlb
StarHutFRwide
StarHutFRlb

And ripped everything to the correct folder. So that's that.

AH man i'm getting tired just thinking about explaining the rest.
K... let's go over to the ripping part,

Multo Importante > rip in IFO mode and rip every PGC to a new folder.
Select the main movie PGC (nr. 1), enable stream processing, click the video stream and click demux, leave the audio stream selected, unselect everything else and start ripping to a folder. Oh yeah make sure you enabled create Maestro chapterfile in ifo options.

Now select the second PGC and without altering anything rip it to a new folder. Also do this for the third and fourth PGC.

Go to the folder where you ripped the main movie to and use VOBedit to get the audio from the ripped vobfile, then get rid of the vobfile.
Now we have a videofile, an audiofile, a chapterfile, I think we're ready for some authoring... WRONG, what about the subs dudes?! We gotta make some subs that DVDmaestro can work with. I prefer using MaestroSBT for making my .SON files, so basicly it goes like this:
SRT > Subtitletool > SSA >MaestroSBT > SON

Now comes the tricky part guys... pay attention here. The subs we ripped from the original DVD can't just be loaded in to DVDmaestro because... well you could, but they will be terribly out of sync. It took me like 2 whole weeks before i came up with this idea, listen up:

Open up Subtitle workshop, change input FPS to 29,97 and open up one of your RIPPED .SON files, change output FPS to 30 Then use "Save as" to store your newly made .SON file. Put it in the same folder But please do NOT overwrite the original one (hence "Save as") Repeat this for all your RIPPED .SON files.
Now if you've done all of this right you've got four folders containing the bitmaps, one original .SON file one .SON file we just created and one palette file.
If you compare the newly created .SON file with the original one using notepad you'll see that it's pretty fucked up, the timestamps are all correct but the information about the placement of the bitmap is... gone... I begged and begged in front of the guys that thought up Subtitle workshop to fix this problem, but they assraped me, laughed at me and told me to piss off. So basicly they said... No
Now I had to fix this all by myself and i came up with this crazy solution, I downloaded a program called rapid key, a program that is designed to capture keystrokes and mousemovement and repeat them, but at 1000 times the original speed or something. So basicly what i did was place the two Notepad windows (one containing the original timestamps and the other one containing the altered ones) next to each other. Now just one time, copy and paste the first altered timestamp over the original one (also the first one ofcourse) Now when you're doing this, make sure rapidkey is recording, and when you're done use the Rapidkey hotkey to stop the recording. You will now have something that's called a Macro, this macro can be repeated an X times >>>Important: The two timestamps, the one that's copied and the one that will be pasted over, have to be at the same place on your screen every time the macro is repeated, because basicly it's just a movement being done over and over again. So make sure that the next two timestamps in line are at the exact same position of your screen before stopping your recording (So basicly this means scrolling notepad down two lines with the original .SON file and scrolling notepad down one line with the newly created .SON file) Now open rapidkey setup the macro to repeat itself for the desired amount of times and let it roll... Repeat this for all of the four subtitle streams. Save the (former original, now altered, meaning the one you copied the timestamps to) .SON and throw away the ones we created with Subtitle workshop.

I wish I could see y'all faces when you're reading all this :freak:

Now... Having done all this let's author...

Open up DVDMaestro, load the M2v file in your asset bin, wait, wait, wait some more, finished. Load your ac3 file, wait a little shorter, done. Now drag the m2v to the corresponding timeline, drag the ac3 to the corresponding timeline, load up the chapterfile, and load all the subtitlefiles in the right order, meaning in the same order they showed up in Subrip: So first English: wide then letterbox, then French: Wide then letterbox. And last but not least our own language .SON file.

If you've paid attention to what you've been doing you could have seen that Subrip also creates a Palette file containing the sub colors. If you open up a .SON file with notepad you can see wich color it's using for what, wich one's translucent, etc. So also load up one of these Palette files (they're all the same in all of the four subtitle folders so it doesn't matter wich one you choose) having done this you'll see that the original subs have their original colors but your own sub probably hasn't, well... just alter the palette file using DVDMaestro, add the colors you want to use somewhere in the back of the colorpanel. having done that open your own language's .SON files assign the right colornumbers and translucent or opaque numbers et voila, c'est tout. Colors are allright now, so compile away.

next now we no longer need all that shit we used for authoring so throw it away, do it, now, do it, do it... heheh Starskey and Hutch humor

Now put the newly created vobfiles in an Iso load it with deamon tools use dvddecrypter to rip the vobfiles to a destination, but disable filesplitting, so you've got one bigass vobfile, throw away the vobfiles made by DVDMaestro but keep the ifo file, we'll be needing this later for colors.

now we're going to reconstruct the entire tileset. normally the VOBid's go from 1 to 5, but we're going to reassemble them in PGC order, make sure all the other pgc's you ripped are just one VOBfile, now put 'm in the correct order like this

VTS_01_001.VOB Main movie
VTS_01_002.VOB Some WB intro logo thingy
VTS_01_003.VOB I really don't know, let's say some warnings
VTS_01_004.VOB Some dvd company's logo

Now use vobedit to join clips and wait wait wait, oh by the way if you put ifoedit or vobedit's progress bar outside of the screen you'll find that the program will do it's job a little quicker.

Okay so now we've got our entire tileset back, hurray for us!!!
Use ifoedit to create new ifo's for these files, select "create a new pgc for each new vobid" and "create a chapter for each cell" let it roll...

Now rip the whole frikkin DVD to your HD (without te tileset that contains your movie because this will save time, you're gonna overwrite it anywayz) Rename your authored set of vobfiles to match the original ones and place them with the rest of the files... Dude you've got your whole new DVD on your harddrive!!!

Only thing left to do is: Fixing the ifo's

Load ifoupdate, At original put the path to the original ifo file you just ripped from the dvd. At authored put the path to the ifofile you created with ifoedit. At backup put some backup destination just to be sure. Now put all the options in ifoupdate just like in thematrixx's guide except for the subcolors and audio and subtitle tables, do not select these. Now let it roll and when done open up ifoedit.

Open your updated ifofile, and open the ifofile i told you to save that was created by DVDmaestro. Now copy the colortable from the "dvdmaestro created ifo file" to the other ifo file. Now one last thing you wanna do is go to the main movie's pgc look for the last sub (the spanish one) it'll show that it uses substream 4 for widescreen and substream 5 for letterbox, but substream five doesn't exist anymore so change both values to 04. just look at the hex number to the side of the decimal number, it'll have something like 040005 in it or something. Enter this number in windows calculator using hexmode replace the 5 by a 4 and see what the number is in decimal numbers. Enter this number in the ifofile and you'll see (when you refresh) that it'll play substream 4 when in letterbox or in widescreenmode.

That's it people!!!

I never ever wanna do this again, really makes you respect people who write guides... JEEEESUS.

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Aug 16 06:09

Thank you Wookie3K :!: :D :wink: !

I will give this to my fellows form here to test it, if it works I will put it in the guide...and ofcourse with special credits to your work :wink:

wcorum posted 2004 Aug 18 05:34

This is my first post. I have been reading extensively and trying to follow the subtitle guides. I am trying to do a pretty involved project of translating 3 different movies (NTSC) replacing (or adding) a different language. This is for an educational purpose and I know I am definitely over my head but I have been learning allot thanks to reading this forum.

I have been using guide by TheMatrix using DVDMaestro since I am working with NTSC movies. I use SUBRIP to get the English subtitles and then work in Subtitle Workshop in the translation mode to do the actual translation work.

After following the guide and changing the font size in the .STL (as was suggested by TheMatix in an earlier post), the result looks great. I can play the movie and turn on subtitles with the remote control and the color is as the English and works great.

EXCEPT, the other stuff in the DVD menu doesn't work like turning on subtitles, jumping to chapters, looking at "Biographies". When trying any of these (anything other than Play movie), the movie freezes.

Also, I had some timing issues with the subtitles. When I jump to chapters just using the remote, a new chapter seems to "squelch" the subtitle at that point so that it doesn't play for the normal time. Actually I had to play around with the timing in Subtitle Workshop to get the new subs to line up closer to the movie. But still not perfect.

When I saw the post from Wookie3K I got excited since I suspect the problem has to do with the fact the movie is multi-pgc. I tried following that 'guide' but must confess, it is over my head, especially towards the end. My subs that I am creating are not 'bit maps', instead I used got a .sub file after running SubRip on the demuxed IFO file and then loaded that into Subtitle Workshop and after translating it, saved as .stl
I am hoping you, TheMatrix will be able to incorporate this info. From Wookie3K into the guide and this will make the entire DVD menu work.

Also, on the timing issues of the subs, if what Wookie3K was doing for the bitmap .son files would work for the timing for what I am trying to do, I would appreciate any advice along those lines. I would like to have the new subs have the exact same timing at the old subs.

Also, I want to thank you all for your hard work. People like me couldn't even begin to try to do a project like this without these guides and forums.

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Aug 18 09:06

Hi wcorum, well you say the movie works fine....but the menu is not in his place. Ok, did you make sure that all the options in IfoUpdate are checked ? Like in the image below...

If they are set like that, it may be something with the Multi-PGC, but in Multi-PGC movie should not see right....

Ok, with the subtitles. Remember that you said you have an NTSC disc, so look in the guide in STEP 3 (look at the picture). So if you rip the subtitle from the DVD and translate it you must put Input FPS 29.97 and FPS 30....if NOT...you will have a delay after some minutes, till the end of the movie.

So do some test and let me know what's up :wink:

wcorum posted 2004 Aug 19 04:07

Thank you for the reply.

First, I did follow your well written guide very carefully and also made the movie about 3 times always with the same results. So yes, I did have all the settings correct in IfoUpdate.

When I say the movie works fine, this is what I mean. When you first put in the DVD to the player, the first intro screen is 'messed up', it's like it's all chopped up but it doesn't freeze. Then it goes to the main DVD menu. As long as I choose play movie, the movies will begin to play ok and then on the remote I can turn on subtitles and they look great.

If however I choose something else from the DVD menu, like subtitles, or chapters, or extras, the DVD will freeze and I have to restart it. So I'm hoping I can learn how to the make the movie as the original, except I have the new language subtitles in place of the English.

Regarding the timing, I also was careful to set Input FPS to 29.97 and FPS to 30. Still the timing was off and I ended up adjusting the timing in Subtitle Workshop by inputting specific times based on my watching the movie. This of course wasn't perfect, but better.

When I look at the .sub file created from SubRip and then the .stl file created from Subtitle Workshop, using Notepad, I can see the timings are different. For example, the first spoken line in .sub is 00:02:10:40, 00:02:14:93 and in the .stl file it's 00:02:10:08,00:02:14:24. The last spoken line in .sub is 01:19:11:83 , 01:19:13:83 and in .stl 01:19:07:02 , 01:19:09:02 so you can see they are off. And again, this is making sure that the Input FPS is 29,97 and FPS is 30. That's why I'm wondering if doing a cut and paste of the timings similar to what Wookie3K described might be the correct solution to the timing issue.

Regarding the Multi-PGC thing, here is a screen shot from DVD Decrypter in IFO mode showing the DVD. The main movie is in VTS_03 and PGC 1. But there are two other VTSs and under VTS_03, there are 6 PGCs. So my question, should I be doing something with all those as suggested in Wookie3K’s post. Would that make the resulting DVD like the original. Please forgive my lack of knowledge in these things. As I acknowledged in my previous post, I am in over my head, but trying to learn.

[img]http://www.videohelp.com/forum/images/guides/p1014824/Thursday, August 19, 2004 (2).jpg[/img]

So, I guess I’m hoping for clarification as to what I should do. I tried to follow Wookie3K post but it assumes more knowledge than I have and I got lost. It would be great if you can make additions to your guide using a bit more basic language as in the current guide for those of us that don’t have as much experience with this stuff. I found the current guide easy to follow just didn’t give me the 100% results I’m hoping for yet.

wcorum posted 2004 Aug 19 04:15

I'm trying to post the image I mentioned in my post, hopefully this works this time.

[img]http://www.videohelp.com/forum/images/guides/p1014827/Thursday, August 19, 2004 (2).jpg[/img]

Flarup posted 2004 Aug 20 00:31

Hey Is there Any one, Who cpould telle me what this error mean and what I shall doo to make it fix ;9

IN the Error Box the Text is " Temporal References in GOP #(Zero-Based) are out of sequence (0x10b00a) It happen after It have imported ca. 47 % of the asset

Please help me ;)

deathgrin posted 2004 Aug 20 07:38

I've been reading all the posts in this forum and also the Guide.

I've been sucessfull in creating a working DVD (hellboy) that a friend downloaded from the net (a dvd-r). I followed the Guide and all went well.

Now my friend (he really doesent want to learn to do this), gave me another dvd-r he got from the net - The Passion of Christ - and all went well till it was time to use IFOUPDATE.

When I try to use IFOUPDATE on this movie it says (after all selected like in the Guide):

ERROR: The original IFO's PGC area is not large enough to hold the new PGC. ABORTING.

I opened the original IFO from the DVD and it has 2 PGC's. The first is a some kind of logo and lasts for about a minute and the second is the movie.

What should I do to make it work???

Thanks for any help.

P.S. - I just thougt that if I can remove the logo with maybe DVDSHRINK -maybe it will work because it will no long have 2 PGC's, am I right ?

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Aug 23 02:09

Flarup, I think the error is from the original movie, it may be corrupt :( ...sorry :x

deathgrin :

- I just thougt that if I can remove the logo with maybe DVDSHRINK -maybe it will work because it will no long have 2 PGC's, am I right ?

Yes you can do that, but try it with DVD Remake, it's the best :wink:

Heat posted 2004 Aug 23 05:38

Hello.

I read all the posts and I still can't find a way to add subtitles to a EPISODE DVD (4 episodes and some extras). Does anybody has any idea???

Thanks for tjis guide The Matrix!!

yuske posted 2004 Aug 23 20:13

Hi Matrixx

First of all great Tutorial.
I have done some movies with no problems, but I'm having problems with one. When I use Rejig for (multiplex, multiplex subtitles, create DVD files), it only makes the first step(multiplex), and it takes only about 8 minutes. Then it doesn't make anything else, and the "final dvd folder" has only 160kb.
Please help me with this problem.

Thank you

wcorum posted 2004 Aug 24 06:34

Wookie3K

I followed your guide very closely and no problems until the end at the If0Update state. When I load the origianl ifo file and the authored ifo, a message comes up saying that IfoUpdate is closing because "The new VTS has more PGCs than the original, no room"

I also see in the info box saying that the original IFO has 4 PGCs (which is correct) and the new authored has 15 PGCs. Any idea what I did wrong?

Thanks for the help.

wcorum posted 2004 Aug 24 07:59

wcorum :

Wookie3K posted 2004 Aug 24 23:09

Wcorum

K, so you've got 4 pgc's... then make sure that the amount of VOBs you're gonna join with VOBedit is exactly the same amount (Which will result in every VOBfile getting it's own VOBid). Also make sure you join the vobfiles in the correct order. So the VOBfile that holds your main movie (PGC1 as you stated) should be renamed to VTS_01_001.VOB, PGC2 should be VTS01_002.VOB. etc.

After you've joined clips, every PGC will have it's own VOBid.

Because of this, IFOedit will recognize every VOBid as a Separate PGC (If you enabled "make new PGC for every VOBid") and create IFO files likewise.

If you open your newly created IFOfile you should see that IFOedit has created PGC's in the same order as in your original IFOfile.

wcorum posted 2004 Aug 25 01:54

Wookie3K
Thank you for the reply. I did join only 4 VOBs and and renamed them as you stated. I took the large iso file from PGC_1 and then the other 3 VOBs from the other 3 folders where I ripped the PGCs to. Renamed them VTS_01_001.VOB, VTS_01_002.VOB etc.

But after creating new ifo for the resulting joined clips, it shows 15 PGCs instead of 4. I suspect the problem is the PGC_3 has 12 chapters in the original and even though the ripped PGC_3 is only one VOBfile, it has 12 chapters that in the end are turned into individual PGCs after joining.

So there must be something I'm doing wrong or a step missing. I did follow your guide very carefully and rechecked all my steps.

Any help or ideas is very much appreciated.

Wookie3K posted 2004 Aug 25 02:22

Wcorum

Hmm... try "join clips" on each VOBfile separately (so basicly you're just changing the VOBid per file but aren't joining shit) and when asked for the first VOBid in VOBedit, enter the correct number (1 for first PGC, 2 for second one, etc.). So when you're done you still have 4 VOBfiles, but they will all have the correct VOBid. (Make sure the VOBfiles are NOT named alike when doing this, or place them in different folders, otherwise VOBedit will still join all 4 VOBs together.

After this try pasting the VOBs together with VOBedit, but this time use the function "Join CellVob files"

Lemme know how it all went.

Wookie3K posted 2004 Aug 25 18:32

Correction on the above post:

When doing "join clips" on each file separately you will not end up with still 4 files, because VOBedit will break up the main movie VOB into 1 gig chunks, aside from this the rest of the process remains the same... first give all the separate VOBs the right id, then try joining 'm with "join CellVob files"

Heat posted 2004 Aug 27 11:23

Hello, Wookie3K!

I have episode DVD, wich has 11 PGSs, so do you think your guide shold do it?

Thx in advanced...

Wookie3K posted 2004 Aug 28 14:52

Heat

I guess so... Just gonna be a lot of work, subbing every ep...

Ace2 posted 2004 Aug 28 19:26

i followed step 1 to 5b exactly
i get my movie to run
but it has no subtitles
i lists it but i dont see it

since the movie was made from a mpeg2 file to dvd format(video_ts)
then to the m2v format
i renamed my own sub file to VTS_01_1.20.sup
my movie name VTS_01_1.m2v and VTS_01_1.c0

and before the demux VIDEO_TS , VIDEO_TS.BUP , VIDEO_TS.IFO , VTS_01_0.BUP , VTS_01_0.IFO , VTS_01_1.VOB , VTS_01_2.VOB

anybody have an idea why it aint showing ?

Wookie3K posted 2004 Aug 29 18:50

For the people who think they've seen the light...

My way of fixing a MultiPGC DVD with new subs will definitely not work for every MultiPGC-DVD.

Thx.

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Aug 31 12:01

Helo yuske, ReJig make errors like that some time...Try it with IfoEdit or with the new guide (with DVD Maestro).

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Aug 31 12:06

Hello Ace2, please send me the IFO files of the movie (thematrix@go.ro). I think I can patch them so you can see the subtitles. Anyway...if you are doing this guide from here...you can stop at STEP 5 and you can do STEP 5 from the new guide (IfoUpdate STEP)....you can find the new guide here.

Ace2 posted 2004 Aug 31 12:58

ok thanks matrixx will have a look at the new guide first
see if i can get a visible sub with that one

odrareg posted 2004 Aug 31 13:04

the matrixxx

i tried your guide it works perfect for me
just one problem with subs i add all subs in my movie
an replece just one chinese to spanish
english an french looks fine but the colors of chinese(spanish)
are weird they don't see white neither yellow
it's a combine of colors
text silver
outlined yellow
background black and so i'll give you an screenshot if you like
i hope you can help me
thanks

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Aug 31 21:06

Hi odrareg. yes...read the last post i wrote....the one for Ace2...3 posts up :roll:

There is your answer....stop at STEP 5 (so DON'T do STEP 5) and continue with STEP 5 from the new guide (the IFO Update step). New guide is here.

If you still can't see your subtitles as are the english and french...just do the movie again with the new guide :D

mohammad posted 2004 Sep 12 13:11

with each ntsc dvd I open, I find the number of programs is similar to the number of cells, does this make a problem?

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Sep 12 16:23

As I know it should not be a problem. Try it with the new guide (you find it here )

Good luck.

mohammad posted 2004 Sep 14 05:27

Well,

After I've demuxed the dvd files in the Demux DVD folder, I got only two files in "Final DVD folder:
"Mux.vob" & "SupMuxed.vob"

How is that?

paganmoon posted 2004 Sep 14 08:47

hi,

first time poster here, just wanted to add my 2 cents on a problem i had and i think i saw someone else have the same problem, not sure if it was fixed (10 pages is alot to read).

Problem was as follows:
when adding a new Sub to the DVD (after de-mux), the sup file i got was smaller than the original sup files. had all the same info but smaller (maybe srt2sup saves them at another resolution).
when trying to remux the files into vobs, after about 48% of remux, i got the error "too many frame drops". always the same error, same place. but -only- if i used the original sup files together with the new one. using the new sup file only, resulted in no problem.

so here is the fix i did, it's alot of work really but it works.

startup SubRip, choose the Vob file with the movie (same as stated in the guide), choose the Sub you want from the drop down list, and click start. you'll have to go thru alot of typing (one letter at a time) till the program learns the letters from the pictures. after done save to SRT.
you can choose the next sub from the drop down list if you want to keep more than one of the original subs, should be less typing this time if you save the matrix of the first one you did.
after you are done, save to SRT again.

now use srt2sup and remake the srt's you've just made to new sup files. replace all the dvd's sup files with the ones you've just created (same nameings tho ofcourse), and load up ifoedit, and do the rest as stated in the guide.

this helped me bypass the problem.

PS. 3 day wait for posting sucks :)

mohammad posted 2004 Sep 16 09:39

in DVDMaestro, each time I try to import a subtitle file in *.son , I get this error:
No corresponding subtitles found! The video asset timecode may not correspond to the timecode specified for the subtitles in the import file

The dvd movie is PAL, and the subtitle that I downloaded was 25fps and in *srt extension where I converted it to .son

What could be the reason then?

mohammad posted 2004 Sep 17 09:58

I need an answer please :) . I really tried many ways but no postitive result!

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Sep 21 08:46

Hi paganmoon GREAT WORK :!: 8)

That's way I didn't have that error....I was adding only one subtitle (the one in my language, made with srt2sup) :D

Very good work again !

Best regards.

P.S.: you are invated on my forum if you like (here)

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Sep 21 08:49

Hi mohammad, I send you a Private Message :wink:

You have to convert the *.srt file to *.stl format ...NOT *.son format :!:

Best regards.

Ver0n posted 2004 Oct 10 14:21

ok i have the same problem as ACE2.

with film Troy and I, Robot.

Can anyone help?

Atreides posted 2004 Oct 10 14:54

Dear Friends,

Following this guide, I’ve had some major problems. First of all I’ve got to mention that since I’m only remotely familiar with the concepts of DVD Authoring, I had completely followed the guide without a slight straying.

1.Although suggested by the guide to find a most suitable subtitle, I have not been able to do so, therefore I had to use Subtitle Workshop. I had two issues with this program, first first when I try to synchronize the subtitles with the movie, I can only open the first vob files i.e. VTS_01_1, and do the adjustment, and by opening the next segment, the timer starts from zero, which renders the method of subtitle synchronization with first/last spoken line of the movie impossible for example subtitle 49:00 with the relevant movie segment which is a part of VTS_01_2.
Second and most important, during the preview, if I go forward and backward, it will cause a time mismatch, i.e. starting the preview from beginning of the movie, the timer shows the correct corresponding time, forwarding the movie and the timer lags behind the original time, it shows 9:30:256, but it is actually 9:35:456, which also makes the adjustment impossible.

2.Trying to multiplex a demux NTSC movie with rejig I encounter this runtime error :

Any suggestion is highly appreciated.

sihyp posted 2004 Oct 12 12:47

@Atreides
In a situation like yours, I would use VOBEDIT to demux de VOB file to get a full audio and a full video stream.
Then open the subtitle work shop and load the subtitle and the audio file.
The final result is always very good.

jlspiderman posted 2004 Oct 13 09:00

Hello everyone:
I have a movie that after the demuxing process become in 3 M2Vs,does anybody on this forum had this problem before?is there any way to join those pieces together? because DVD Maestro only accepts one M2V.Forgive me if this topic was discussed here before,but i couldn't find it. Thanks

jlspiderman posted 2004 Oct 14 10:43

Hello Matrixx:
I tried with your web site and I couldn't connect, is it down or something?

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Oct 14 13:06

Hi jlspiderman, please set at DVD Decrypter on Tools->Settings menu at IFO Mode tab, the File Spliting to NONE !

See the picture!

My site new adress is www.dvdromania.org

Aryudsoh posted 2004 Oct 17 13:57

If you can't find any subtitles and need to make your own subtitles from scratch is it possible to sync them with the movie while viewing using this method? Like a preview mode similar to the one in Subtitle Workshop and DVD workshop.

Baldrick posted 2004 Oct 17 14:00

aryudsub: you can use dvdsubber and create a srt sub file. i haven't tested the built-in subber in dvd-lab pro.

Marvingj posted 2004 Oct 17 14:07

Super Job! Works :yeah: Great!!!!!

Aryudsoh posted 2004 Oct 17 14:16

Thanks Baldrick. I've got dvdsubber downloaded and I'll start reading up on how to use it.

ozzii posted 2004 Oct 20 09:43

Hi!
Does I got a way to add subtitle and to kepp the italic.
In my srt file i've got the Italic but when I import in dvd-lab I must manualy put the subtitile to Italic.

Thanks.

doron1958 posted 2004 Oct 23 02:52

I folwed your guide and I riped the DVD with DVD Decrypter and got .sub files but DVD-Lab wont take them. what did I do wrong?

ozzii posted 2004 Oct 23 09:34

doron1958

The sub given from dvddecrypter are impossible to put in dvd-lab.
you must convert it in srt (for ex.) with subrip.

shrek3 posted 2004 Oct 25 18:52

Hi

I'm having a problem after demuxing and I hope that someone can help me

After demuxing DVD movie, I'm having a problem with audio delay
I've tried to demux with a few tools (DVD decrypter, VOBedit,Rejig)
But it didn't help.
I've tried several AC3 correction tools, but still there is no sync between video and audio.

This problem occurs only in one movie I have (the usual suspect), in the other movies everything went smoothly.

If someone here knows how can I synchronize the AC3 file With the M2V file, I'll be glad to see a reply, cause I've burned a lot of hours and it just won't work :)

BTW, I've checked the m2v file along with the ac3 file in bsplayer and there was problem with the sync, which lead me to the conclusion that the problem is in the demuxed files and not in the DVD-lab or any other authoring tool

Thank you

Aryudsoh posted 2004 Nov 01 16:48

I'm trying to create a srt file in dvdsubber but when I try to load up the VOB file I can see the video but can't hear the audio. Any suggestions?

ozzii posted 2004 Nov 02 02:19

If you have demux the video it's normal.
You msut put the original dvd in your player (or an mounted iso file)

Aryudsoh posted 2004 Nov 02 13:09

I'm using a dvd in the drive but can't open it with subtitle editor (from dvdsubber) so I try opening the VOB files which aren't demuxed but no audio.

liavm posted 2004 Nov 02 14:36

hi good guide but can u explain what to do with Rejig?
i dont know what to do there

panoplos posted 2004 Nov 11 03:36

Hi, I'm having a problem with DVDMaestro.
At the finish I get error and the program close.
And creates only the VOB files and not the IFO files.
I don't know what is the problem because I have make other movies with no problem.
Please help me if you know the problem.
Thank you.

skeg64 posted 2004 Nov 11 07:27

I have had this happen, but I fear that there may be many causes for this error. I will tell you why it was happening for me:
DVD Maestro seems to have a bug in it that affects chapter markers. Sometimes you can insert a chapter point, but then it "disappears" and you can no longer see or remove the chapter. The way you can tell if this has happenned is to insert a new chapter. If the number of this chapter is 1 more than what you expect, there is a glitchy chapter in your movie (eg. you think you have 12 chapters, then when you insert a new chapter it calls it "Chapter 14").
The only way to fix this is to import a new chapter list, exit the program and restart your computer. I know this sounds weird, but if you don't restart your computer it will keep doing the same thing.
This is probably not what is causing it for you. But basically I think it happens when you accidentally create a dvd with errors in it. Re-check everything is right, re-import your assets, and restart your computer. Make sure if you have a hyperthreading or dual-cpu computer, that the affinity is set to only ONE of the CPUs. The other option is to start over again.

panoplos posted 2004 Nov 12 02:15

skeg64 :

Hi I try but nothing. I think the problem is on the subtitles but I don't know what is, because I do the same things with other movies and is ok.
If you know anything else that will help please let me know.
Thank you

panoplos posted 2004 Nov 12 02:16

There is any program like DVDMaestro?

panoplos posted 2004 Nov 12 03:40

There is any way to modify the existing menu of the original movie. for e.x. I want to delete the graphic for french sub and add mine and link it with my sub.
Thank you

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Nov 14 21:22

Hi panoplos, did you saw the new guide with DVD-lab PRO ?
And I have made a movie tutorial also, showing to all of you how easy is to insert subtitles to a DVD movie !

http://dvdromania.org/content/view/50/2/

P.S.: DVD Maestro is not that good as DVD-lab PRO is :lol:

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Nov 14 21:24

Hi liavm, what Rejig ?
The guide posted here is with DVD-lab PRO now :D

panoplos posted 2004 Nov 15 01:02

TheMatrixx :

Hi TheMatrixx, I try the new tutorial and works fine thank you.
Is possible to add in original menu my subtitle so I can select it from the menu??

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Nov 15 01:38

I have no ideea how to change the menu buttons....and i think is very hard :cry: :evil:

tunguska posted 2004 Nov 16 13:47

I have also posted this question here on a doom9 forum. It is a long post, so I will just summarize.

I have closely followed the DVDMaestro version of TheMatrix's guide. The resulting Nero burned disc will play fine in PowerDVD but freezes just before the main (root) menu on my Pioneer DV-333 standalone player.

I think it has something to do with IFOUpdate not updating the pointers properly in the IFO files, especially in VIDEO_TS.IFO, but I am just guessing. The movie is not complicated. It only has a single Title Set (PGC?).

From PGCEdit:

VMG, First-Play PGC:
********** pre commands:
[30 06 00 00 00 42 00 00] 1 (JumpSS) Jump to VMGM Title menu
********** post commands:

VMGM, LU1(en),1 (0:15) 0b. TitleM: (here is the intro movie/VOB)
********** pre commands:
********** post commands:
[30 06 00 01 01 83 00 00] 1 (JumpSS) Jump to VTSM 1, Root menu (TTN 1)

So, the First-Play PGC just jumps to the VMGM Title Menu which is the 15 second intro movie. At the end of this is a post command to JumpSS to the root menu. This is the menu that will not display on my Pioneer DV-333.

Isn't IFOUpdate supposed to fix all of the pointers in both .IFO files? I think I need to manually check these pointers somehow. I assume that IFOUpdate also updates VIDEO_TS.IFO even if only the _0.IFO file is selected since it is not listed in the guide as a seperate step, but I am not sure. I would like to try using IFOEdit instead of IFOUpdate but I don't know how. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.

I know that I could try to skip the intro movie (a possibility) or the entire root menu, but I would rather keep it the same as the original. I am willing to skip the intro movie though if that would help at all.

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Nov 16 16:08

Hi tunguska, Open IfoEdit...then open the VIDEO_TS.IFO file of the authored DVD....and hit the Get VTS sectors button....some pop-up windows will appear..hit OK on all of them. Then close IfoEdit and see if the movie works fine.

If not...you may have problems with the blank DVD you are writing on...I had a NO-NAME blank DVD with Bruce Almighty movie, on PC all worked fine...but on my Standalone player....100 of errors....menu did't show up.....stupid errors :evil:

merman posted 2004 Nov 18 22:05

Im using the newest version of dvd decrypter, but under the settings>ifo mode tab there is no listing for dvd lab chapter information. What am i missing?

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Nov 18 22:16

There it is !

merman posted 2004 Nov 19 01:26

i see ur post but in the newest version of dvd decrypter which i just download, in between cce and dvd maestro there is no checkbox or entry for dvd lab chapter information. i have dvd lab pro installed. and the newest dvd decrypter. i dont know how 2 post my screenshot but its not there. did i 4get 2 activate something?

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Nov 19 09:25

Look, I have the lastest DVD Decrypter 3.5.1.0...I just downloaded now again to make sure. It's the same thing. DVDlab Chapter Information is there...check your version !

weatherman posted 2004 Nov 28 13:26

I tried to add my .sub files (demuxed with dvddecrypter) to dvdlab , but it replied: unsupported format. It doesn't import .sup(made with srt2sup) files either. Does dvdlab support only text based subs? that's worthless!

abubar posted 2004 Nov 30 09:53

Hi Matrixx ,
great guide !!!
I tried it & saw also your media player movie of how to add subs to DVD movie .
But when i finished it & watch the movie with classic media player , there was no subtitles added .
I try to add englisg subs & Hebrew that i download from internet .
I did exactly this guide .
the movie i try to compile was Saving Private ryan .
Can U help me ?
THX

meping posted 2004 Dec 08 22:17

I was doing the demuxing and @ the same point everytime while it was writing one of the .m2v file it would say I was out of space on disk, cept I would have like 12gb free. Any idea why. 1 thing though, I was doing this directly from disk, I had ripped anything to the HD, I didn't see that mentioned on the guide. PLEASE HELP!!!!

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Dec 13 10:28

abubar, the original DVD has any subtitles on it ?

meping please use an NTFS hdd and more space ....20 Gb or more.

balrog posted 2004 Dec 23 20:19

Hi TheMatrixx, nice guide. :)
But I´ve a problem. I´m trying to put portuguese subtitles on Return of King movie. It´s ok but after a begginning the movie have several slowndowns. Im Powerdvd (and others software players) goes fine, but in my player this happen. Some solution?

Thanks in advance. 8)

TheMatrixx posted 2004 Dec 23 20:27

Hi balrog, thanks

I had the same problems as you, the movie played very well on the PC but on the Standalone Player no way. It's from the DVD blank you used :( Try MEMOREX ! :D

balrog posted 2004 Dec 24 04:38

I don´t think that the problem is dvd media because I had used a Ridata media and a DVD-RW and the slowdowns occur in the same place in both. This only happen when the movie, which has beem modified, the menu and others play smoth. :(

balrog posted 2004 Dec 24 14:39

Hi, I solve my problem using a new version of IfoEdit v0.971, which don´t have ntsc bug :) . Now I will watch my movie.

TomSem posted 2004 Dec 28 05:27

anybody know a solution to
"original ifo is not large enough to hold the new pgc" ?

it is not a multi pgc problem becauce ifoedit shows only one pgc in original ifo.

i ve heard there is a 'vob extra' solution but couldnt find a "how to"

many thnx

liavm posted 2005 Jan 05 14:35

hi i need help with the last part
the part when u use rejig i cant understand what to do with this program

and why cant i use ifo edit?

plz matrixx explain me this part one more time

45tripp posted 2005 Jan 07 14:46

Hello,

I'm having a bit of trouble re-authoring my Arizona Dream dvd with all the subtitles I want included. The original disk has a single subtitle stream that is forced and can't be deselected. When re-authoring with DVDlab pro the resulting dvd works fine but when replacing original dvd's vob files and updating ifo only the first subtitle stream that I've inserted works, the same way as the original did, forced. I'd like to be able to also select the other 2 subtitle streams i've inserted with dvdlab.

I'll also include the final dvd's ifos after ifoupdate, . Perhaps someone could inform me how to edit the ifos (or ifo) so that I'll be able to select any subtitle stream I'd like. If that is possible that is.

vts02 is the movie. 01 is the menu.

ifos.zip

thanks in advance

Solved my problem.

abu awab posted 2005 Jan 09 05:20

hi dear
y did i get this massege after following your guide?[/img]

Moonchild posted 2005 Jan 17 08:01

I want to add new subtitles to a DVD keeping the original ones. I'm following this guide strictly but i always end up with a final DVD without the original subs and only with the new ones. I have three small doubts about this guide:
1) in DVD Decrypter (IFO mode) shall i demux the subtitles as well? (i tried both ways but the final result is the same anyway...)
2) what subtitles should be added at DVDlab? only the new ones right?
3) if i want to keep the original subs, do i must rip them before with SubRip?

I would really appreciate some help here.
This guide is really awesome :)

Moonchild posted 2005 Jan 20 13:56

Yeah... u gotta rip them and insert them in DVDlab.

leho posted 2005 Jan 21 08:05

ok i have a problem. when i have a dvd with DTS or 5.1 surround then aftre demuxing and adding subtitles, muxing and burning again. it changes to 2 channel stereo. i believe it happens when i first demuxing it.

TheMatrixx posted 2005 Jan 21 16:14

45tripp REPLACE THIS IFOs WITH YOURS !!! IT WILL WORK AS YOU WANT ... I REMOVED THE PROHIBITED OPERATIONS !

Have fun ! :D

http://divxpert.org/NEW_IFOs_FOR_45tripp.zip

TheMatrixx posted 2005 Jan 21 16:40

liavm we don't use the old guide, this one is working with DVD-lab PRO, DVD Decrypter and Ifo Update. :)

Try it ! It's the best !

If you still want to use the old guide use the new IFO EDIT 0.917 instead of Rejig.

sinancihan posted 2005 Jan 25 06:14

great guide, very useful tools also. Thanks for your job.

Fir3Fox posted 2005 Jan 30 06:58

Great WORKING guide, I even got the original subtitle on the movie I ripped and even add a new one! Now the next step is to get how I can add my subtitle to the menu, looks like I have to search for a new guide :)

Thanx The Matrixx for this guide!!!

//Fir3Fox

chudm posted 2005 Jan 31 16:24

Hi everyone, i'm new here, hope matrix can help or any of u guys, look i do all what the guide say until dvdlabpro i add the sub and the vob results perfect with subs but the problem it's that the original ifo said that have 2 pgcs 1 of the whole movie and the 2nd one with only 15 seconds so theres the problem cause when i tried to open ifoupdate doesnt works cause sau that the original iso got 2 pgcs and the authored one got only 1, how can i do with this:S cause it's freaking me out and dont know what else to do please help!

chudm posted 2005 Jan 31 16:35

sorry second one it's only 0 seconds :S

Here is a picture

chudm posted 2005 Jan 31 16:37

sorry here it is :)

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TheMatrixx posted 2005 Feb 01 02:02

Hi chudm, I don't see what's the problem :o

Select the PGC 1 [2:20:20] and demux it :D

masterMZ posted 2005 Feb 08 07:10

i mange to make my own dvd with my sub but
the sub was on movie himselef and not on the black space
how i can do it that the sub will be on the black space?

Amsterveer posted 2005 Feb 10 16:20

:notworthy Dear TheMatrixx, I just tried your guide for the very first time, and it works perfect!! I encountered some strange things though: with DVD Decrypter a .M2V file is made, but the AC3 files are not. In DVD Lab Pro I have to import a .VOB file, and then the AC3 files are generated. Besides that this works wonderful!!!
Thx.

TheMatrixx posted 2005 Feb 12 05:07

Hi Amsterveer, please select in the Stream Processing window the AUDIO stream you want and check DEMUX option a little down! That will make you a AC3 file :D

Amsterveer posted 2005 Feb 12 07:35

Dear TheMatrixx, I did select the AUDIO stream! Actually there are 2 streams (2 languages), and I selected them both. I tried also single language DVD's, but I always end up with only a .M2V file, and a .VOB file that is demuxed within DVD Lab Pro!. Only after that (takes quiet some time) I have the .AC3 files available.
Thx anyway.

lout posted 2005 Feb 14 03:58

Hi i have problem how to do with structure like this it stagtae dvd with 5 title so if in 1 vob its 1 title and part from nother title so if i do last thing with ifo and i click on dvd play second title its play not from beginig plz help thnx m

Tomgh posted 2005 Mar 10 02:09

How can I demux the dvd if I have the vob files om my HD, not as an Iso..?

Amsterveer posted 2005 Mar 10 05:14

Tomgh :

How can I demux the dvd if I have the vob files om my HD, not as an Iso..?

Hi, a bit frustrating, but I only succeed when I mount an image (e.g. Iso) with Daemon, and decrypt it from the virtual drive.

Tomgh posted 2005 Mar 10 14:41

So which program would be best to make an iso.
I download'd WinISO but it didn't work, gave an error at 90 % :S

Or does someone know a program with which you can create a virtual dvd-rom drive of a folder?

Amsterveer posted 2005 Mar 11 05:45

Tomgh :

You can create an ISO or NRG or IMG file with I think any burning program. I use Nero. Just choose "DVD video", put everything that belongs there in the VIDEO_TS folder. Now select "Image recorder" as your burner, and then "burn" the DVD. This will create an .NRG file. Now you need a virtual DVD drive where you can mount this image (NRG or ISO) file. I use Daemon, which works perfect for me. You can download this from here: http://www.daemon-tools.cc/dtcc/portal/portal.php

BlackAdder2TheRescue posted 2005 Mar 12 04:57

What if I have some TV episodes with subitles that I have turned to DVD format? How am I going to add the subs to the DVD with DVD Lab Pro?

Deadite02 posted 2005 Mar 16 05:01

Hi, I tried this guide out and was on its way to working perfectly until I came to compile the DVD. While in the Muxing process it stops in one place and doesn't move, I have tried 3 times to leave it thinking it would take a while but I left it on overnight and was still on the same place. No error messages or anything came up.

I'm compiling a NTSC DVD if that is any help.

Somebla posted 2005 Mar 18 07:21

Please delete this post.

TheMatrixx posted 2005 Mar 26 05:18

Tomgh make your ISO files with DVD SHRINK !

BlackAdder2TheRescue follow my new Episode DVD Subtitles guide from here -> http://www.dvdromania.org/content/category/1/76/56/

Deadite02 are you using NTFS harddrive ? Windows XP ? And please check you have a least 5 GB free space for the TEMP folder .. VERY VERY IMPORTANT !!

filipe_l posted 2005 Mar 30 12:30

Hi,when i try to update(ifoupdate) i receive an error telling me:
ERROR:The original IFO's PGC area is not large enough to hold the new PGC.Please help me

TheMatrixx posted 2005 Mar 30 15:12

It's a Multi-PGC disc, and for now there is nothing to do about it. When I will have more free time I will release the new Multi-PGC guide to the world!

filipe_l posted 2005 Mar 31 04:56

Hi,when i try to update the original ifo with ifoupdate,i receive an error telling me that the original ifo dont have sufficient pgc area.Why?Can i resolve with pgcedit or ifoedit?

TheMatrixx posted 2005 Mar 31 09:44

Hi, I just told you :)

"It's a Multi-PGC disc, and for now there is nothing to do about it. When I will have more free time I will release the new Multi-PGC guide to the world!"

lordvonza posted 2005 Apr 08 15:17

This is the best guide I found.. and it really work.
I just have one problem on something..
Since I want to create a new DVD and only ADD another Subtitle, I'd like to keep all the original ones.
I choose to Demux the Original subtitles and then when I try to Import them on DVD-Lab, it doesn't work, it says it's a bad file or something.

- Another thing.. when you say "If you have an NTSC disc I suggest to check the "From DF source" option for perfect syncronization. (You can do some test yourself and see if you have perfect syncronization). "

My DVD-Lab doesn't have that "From DF Source" option, it has only 29fps or 30 fps and I'm having a lot of trouble to synchronize one subtitle for the movie "Princess Mononoke". It starts good but then after like 5 minutes it's all wrong and out of synch. The DVD-lab version is PRO 1.00.

TheMatrixx posted 2005 Apr 08 15:57

Well you NEVER demux the subtitles from the DVD...it will not do you any good....you don't need them...you need to EXTRACT them with SubRip (please see me Extracting Subtitles from a DVD Guide here -> http://www.dvdromania.org/content/category/1/70/56/ )

The second problem, the syncronization of the subtitle is a very very hard thing and also very hard to learn as a noobie and very hard to teach someone as a advanced user :( It depends on many aspects. If it was something like mathematics for exemple ...I would have a guide about that already :D ...but it's not :cry:

Get the latest patch for DVD-lab from MediaChance ( see here -> http://www.dvdromania.org/component/option,com_weblinks/catid,74/Itemid,44/ ) and you will have the option From DF source...witch is the same as 30 fps :)

Good luck!

lordvonza posted 2005 Apr 08 16:12

First of all, thank you very much for such a prompt answer.
I'm gonna check the DVD-lab upgrade but if you said it's the same thing as 30fps.. it won't make a difference.
I already ripped the original subtitle from the DVD once, just to check the timing but I always get in trouble about the fps and on all my tests, none of the subtitles I tried worked. I tried with 23,25,29,30fps and some worked only at the start.
You said (You can do some test yourself and see if you have perfect syncronization). "
Can I check the subtitles on the preview window too for the synch? Because I can't see them and no sound either. I just see the movie.
Thanks again for your help!

masterMZ posted 2005 Apr 13 11:56

i manged to add a subtitle
but when i canged the subtitle with subtitle button, i dont see the languge of the subtitle
how can i chanfed it the i will see the languge of the subtitle when i changed subtitle with the button on the DVD PLAYER

lordvonza posted 2005 Apr 13 12:41

Hi MasterMZ.
Did you change the name when you were importing the new subtitle to add?
Check the screen...
It will always show that name on the subtitles when you change it, and if you did only add one.. that's the only one you'll have to change.
Just be sure that it will only appear when you change it directly with the remote control, or if you are on the computer with powerDVD for example, when you right click and go to the subtitle section you'll see it.
But on the Original DVD Subtitle screen you will not be able to see any changes there because the screen will always be as the original, with the original subtitles.

cd090580 posted 2005 Apr 28 06:03

I've tried the guide but after remuxing the subtitles are out of synch.

My original DVD contains subtitles in English, French, German.

I replace the german subtitle by another version of the french subtitles. No problems.

But after remuxing, all my subtitles become out of synch even the original ones.

I may understand that my custom subtitle can be out of synch but the original ones ?????

Is it possible to change the starting time with ifo edit ??? (I've tried to demux/remux 3 times and I've always the same problem)

lordvonza posted 2005 Apr 28 13:15

I had a lot of troubles with subtitle synch. Even one subtitle that I ripped from the original DVD and then put it back together and it didn't synch at all. It's hard to believe that even the original subtilte.. if you put it again.. it doesn't synch. But that was only one DVD that I had that problem.
You have to check the fps of the original ones, most NTSC are 29fps, check if the subtitles you are using are with the same fps.
There's a good program that you can use for subtitles edition and you can also check with the movie file if they synch or not.. or change the fps whenever you want to. Try it... it's Subtitle Workshop.
If that doesnt help.. then I dont know.. as I said.. the other DVD I was trying.. didn't work with any subtitle.. and I don't know what to do anymore either.

Extol posted 2005 Apr 28 14:23

Hi!
Here is my problem:

I’ve downloaded the subtitle in “sub” format and converted them into “srt” using Subtitle Workshop. I’ve also ripped the english subtitle using SubRip and compared the timing between the two of them and it doesn’t match. I’ve adjusted the time using Subtitle Workshop (I read your tip) to match the english one. After that I’ve inserted them into DVD-lab PRO and… the timing was different than the original one! Why did it change? Also, even though the special characters are shown correctly in Subtitle Workshop they are all messed up in DVD-lab Pro. Anyways, I have compiled the DVD and gotten the subtitle in magenta with white border (but I’ve selected yellow). I’ve also noticed that it’s not synchronized properly starting with the first dialog and more than that it’s slipping behind several seconds by the end of the movie. I’ve tried to adjust the color and timing but no success…
I have played with PowerDVD the "Final DVD" and the subtitle color is OK and I can choose between original subtitle and the one that I just added. After copy/paste to "Original DVD" and update with IfoUpdate the subtitle color change and the original subtitle is missing!?
Any suggestions? Thanks.

Goras posted 2005 Apr 30 13:48

Help!

IfoUpdate crashes in the last step.

I'm trying to add a subtitle to a Japanese R2DVD, but Ifoupdate crashes as soon as I open the original IFO file.

Is there any other program that I can use to complete the last step?

BeachNut posted 2005 May 01 05:42

Matrix... I'm trying to add subtitles to my own DVD. When I demux my DVD (step 1) the resulting .m2v file doesn't contain the video that I want to add the subtitles to. My DVD menu structure has 10 chapters of video plus 2 more chapters which are slideshows (made with Memories on TV). I want to add subtitles to these Slideshows, but they're not in the .m2v file.
Any ideas? Thanks.

MassaCure posted 2005 May 03 17:45

i figured it out :D

CaTz posted 2005 May 04 09:22

Hey Matrix you rolzzz!!!
your guide rolz!
:P

but hELP me!

I tring to add subtitles to the Meet.The.Parents.CE.2000.NTSC.DVDR-TGiF

Ofther i Compiled with DVDLAB PRO i copied the original files to the final folder (but saved the final vts_01_00)
when i try to update with IFoUpdate it update but when i run the movie the Warning Message (the regular thing) is showed but after that
it stoped!!!
if i copy the original vts_01_00 the movie work but the subtitles in streange color

can you HELP me?

AND THNX AGAIN FOR THE GUIDE
:P

CaTz posted 2005 May 04 13:33

can i update IFO file With IFOEDIT Like
i update with Ifoupdate?

because IFOUPDATE is Sucks with NTSC

cristiangatti posted 2005 May 07 03:16

TheMatrixx, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR THIS WONDERFUL (PERFECTLY WORKING) GUIDE:)

Best regards from Argentina:)

Cristian

cristiangatti posted 2005 May 07 12:04

I have a question..........

Can Closed Captioning be ripped from a DVD?
I have many DVDs with no subtitles (not even in english), but most of them hace closed captioning. I'd need to rip them, translate it to spanish language, and re-author the dvd with the translated closed captioning (or add the translated closed captions as subtitles). Is that possible? Or should I just "make" a subtitles file in order to re-author the DVD with spanish subtitles?
I tried SubRip, but even though it says it found subtitles, it recognizes nothing at all:(
Thanks in advance:)

Cristian

APOEL posted 2005 May 21 04:13

my pproblem is that i cannot use dvdlab pro. From the first day i downloaded it, i get a message that i need to buy it. Is there any way i can crack it or something.
THANKS FOR THE EXCELLENT TUTORIAL.
I am waiting for your response

plomon posted 2005 May 23 08:58

i ripped two chapters from the dvd using dvd decrypter(ifo mode - rip by chapter) and placed them as two different .vobs in a folder.....demuxed the two vobs seperately and placed them in two different folders.

now, i opened dvd lab...added the demuxed .m2v and .ac3 files along with .srt subtitles of the corresponding capters(which i created on my own in subtitle workshop) to two different movies - movie1 and movie2....now i pressed "project - compile dvd"....got the .vob file, the .ifo file...stored these in a seperate folder...

now comes the big problem....when i tried updating the new .ifo file with the original .ifo using ifoupdate, it gives an error saying that the new ifo has 2 PGCs, while the older one has only one PGC.

the reason why i'm multiplexing .m2v's and .ac3's and .srt's of two different chapters is another story, infact a compulsion...

the reason why i'm stressing on ifo update is that, unless i update the ifo, the new vob loaded into AutoGK(for encoding puprpose) is not showing the newly multiplexed subtitles in its preview screen.

if u can suggest any other software(i mean other than autogk) which can convert my newly multiplexed vob file into avi or mpg(without losing quality), without any compulsion of updating corresponding ifo, then that would also solve my problem alternatively.

pls help me solve this problem.

masterMZ posted 2005 May 27 11:17

thanks for the guide but i have a question
if there is a way to edit the menu of the subtitle ?and how ?

MeDiCo_BrUjO posted 2005 Jun 01 23:44

Great guide, I will try it and post the results.

MeDiCo_BrUjO posted 2005 Jun 04 15:46

I'm stuck in the part where I'm supposed to import the subtitles in dvd-lab pro, the program says "unsupported file type", what can it be?

estherksv posted 2005 Jun 14 19:30

Hi,

Are we all following the guide above?? It doesn't have any steps of VOBedit or Rejig or Ifoupdate.

Am I missing something here?

I also have a problem of having .vob main movie file in middle ie. vtx.11.1.. I'm utterly confused.

I followed the guide as above but at last step in Ifo update, it said it can't update because I have more chapters. I have 12 chapters each having PGC files.

I wonder how I can resolve this problem. Can you please help??

Thank you.

BlackAdder2TheRescue posted 2005 Jun 15 08:18

TheMatrixx, is this guide working for a DVD that has not a movie but episodes from a TV show?
I mean...I have 4 TV show episodes which after converting them from avi to dvd with WinAvi and using TMPGEnc DVD Author to author them into a DVD, I want to add the subtitles for these 4 tv episodes. Will this guide work? How am I gonna add the subs (which I have in srt fotmat?)

Thanks in advance

kremlincrackers posted 2005 Jul 04 13:10

Hi. Thanks by the guide. is very useful, but i have the Stargate SG-1 Season 1 in DVD-R and i want to put portuguese subs. How can i do this?

thanks in advance.

ricardouk posted 2005 Jul 04 17:13

if you send me your email or pm me i will explain it to you in portuguese.

i have done that before

ricardouk posted 2005 Jul 04 17:18

APOEL :

you cant ask for cracks here, instead of dvd lab use muxman for example, instead of srt subs muxman uses sst subs, use subtitle workshop to creat sst from srt.

maartend posted 2005 Jul 05 12:03

Small problem that I can not solve with thiz excellent guide.

I ripped the subs with subrip.

The have font styles like italic in it (like thiz : blabla)

But when I import the subs in dvdlabpro, all the styles are gone.
What happenend?

Somebla posted 2005 Jul 08 15:31

Great guide !

Just one littel problem. I usually add English & Hebrew subtitles.
After I finish the whole guide and watch it on the PC or TV I cant see the name Hebrew when switching between the 2 subtitles.
It shows the name English with no problem but the Hebrew is blank on TV and on the PC it shows Subtitle 1.

How can I fix this thing ?

Thanks in advance ;)

Gilgamesh200 posted 2005 Jul 14 18:12

A litle + for this great guide.

''MenuEdit''

http://www.dimadsoft.com/menuedit/index.php

I found the last addOn and now, we will be able to add a selectable button on the DVD menu for the eventual new sub-titles ! :) This solution is meaby not free .. but it gives great possibility :

. Remove unwanted buttons from either still or motion menus;
. Remove intro/logo/warning screens;
. Delete not used cells/vobs;
. Preview everything on your DVD;
. Automatic relinking of the buttons left in the menu so that it's still possible to access buttons with navigation keys of the remote control;

. Automatic adjustment to the buttons for all auto display modes;
. Edit all button's attributes and commands;
. Add buttons to menu;
. Edit menu color table;
. Move buttons between menus - export/import menu buttons;
. Save selected video frames into file;
. Change cell/vob id.

You can find the DVDmenu demo on the dimadsoft website however, it will not really useful cuz its realy not a freeware.

I come back with a guide for this program

Wait and see ;)

[/quote]

astrocity20 posted 2005 Jul 19 23:23

Brilliant tutorial, worked like a charm after I figured out MY wrong doing. So just for the record I'm putting it down here.

Everything worked fine with me up until the last step when IFO Update gave me this error... "Run-time error '75' Path File access error". This error was due to my original dvd being in a partially hidden or readonly directory. So make sure if you get that error you right click the folder, properties and remove any and all hidden/read only attributes from the main folder and it's subfolders. otherwise IFO Update will not work. Took me all day to figure that out.[/b]

astrocity20 posted 2005 Jul 20 15:15

Scratch that, didn't work like a charm... when I got to my standalone player and pressed "Top menu" it'd take me to some animation then hang. On another player it took me to this animation then skipped it and played it like it should have. As for the subs they would work for about 5-10 minutes then disappear, you'd have to rewind fast forward or select diffferent subs then select back. A pain in the ass really. :\

Razz^ posted 2005 Jul 24 15:11

I followed the guide, did that thing in dvd decrypter and i ended up with four 1 gig files in the format .m2v and i could only add the first one i DVD Lab PRO :( what should i do?

AgentDark posted 2005 Jul 26 16:39

Hello, I was so close to finally adding subtitles to a DVD. I used another tutorial to start it out and then finished off with this tutorial and tryed out my DVD. The movie worked but no subtitles. I burned all the contents in the Original DVD folder (VIDEO_TS, VIDEO_TS.BUP, VTS_01_0, VTS_01_0.BUP, VTS_01_1, VTS_01_2, VTS_01_3, VTS_01_4, and VTS_01_5). The movie burned without any subtitles I even played it on my computer and it still didn't have any subtitles. Any idea where I went wrong? I used this tutorial all the way up to step 3 and stopped because the multiplexing part wasn't working for me. (http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=135193). Thanks in advance.

astrocity20 posted 2005 Jul 28 13:35

Dunno AgentDark... do you have the latest version of DVD Lab Pro?

Razz: Make sure under settings/ifo mode you have under "file splitting" marked "none" I think the default may be 1gb.

Lnwlfoeo posted 2005 Aug 20 17:02

Hi... first of all, I've to thank you, this guide is awesome and it really works (for me :lol: )

But now, I'm trying to add a spanish subtitle to Kung Fu Hustle R1, but I've a small problem. When insert the video to DVD-lab it says something about the GOP, and when I check the length of the main language (Cantonese) is something like 23 HOURS!!! :? . So, I follow all the steps and compile the DVD. But when I play this "Final DVD" the speed of the video is like 8 times faster when the audio 1 (Cantonese) is selected, if I select another audio (2 or 3) the video slow down to normal but the audio (2 or 3) is a little bit faster than the video, in the other hand the subtitles are OK :P

I thought that the problem was DVD-lab and that GOP thing, so I try using IfoEdit and ReJig. With IfoEdit the video was ok, not Cantonese language and very bad subtitles. With ReJig, all went wrong :evil:

Do you know if there's a way to fix this using DVD-lab???

and another question, I have DVD Decrypter 3.5.4.0, and when I go to Settings -> IFO Mode, there's another option that doesn't appears in yours pictures, it says "Uncheck Suspect cells" by default comes checked, What does mean by that? Do I leave it check or uncheck?

PS: I'm sorry if somebody already ask the same thing, but come on... 14 pages, that's a lot :oops:

PS 2: Sorry for my english, I don't know if I wrote the post ok, but I'm doing my best :lol:

PS 3: I made some changes to the post, so please read it again :idea:

MeDiCo_BrUjO posted 2005 Aug 20 19:49

How can you do this?, I've tried step by step this guide and it doesn't work for me...

:(

EDIT:

Quote from my last post:

I'm stuck in the part where I'm supposed to import the subtitles in dvd-lab pro, the program says "unsupported file type", what can it be?

tonemgub posted 2005 Sep 22 14:35

Hi! first i'd like to say that this is a great guide for a newbie like me. very clear, very simple. everything went smoothly. thank you very much!
I'd just like to know: is there a way to see the whole thing work on my PC? i mean i can play the VOB files with PowerDVD but that's without the subtitles. i want to see the actual DVD, the way it plays from an iso/img file, to see if it's ok.
how do i do this?
any help would be appreciated :)

...coolstream posted 2005 Sep 27 07:07

tonemgub, you are so close to finding your solution.

To play the whole DVD from the VIDEO_TS folder in PowerDVD (or any other DVD-playing software), instead of opening the individual VOBs, open the VIDEO_TS.IFO file with the player.

If you do not have the ability to right-click on that file and select that option, you can simply drag and drop it onto PowerDVD.

If you are going to be doing this regularly, you might want to create a right-click shortcut. To do this right-click and select Open With. Select the Choose Program... option then Select Program from list and browse to PowerDVD and select it (make sure that Always use this Program is not checked).

[THESE INSTRUCTIONS ARE FOR WinXP. It is possible in other flavors of Windows but using a different method]
Once you have made this link the next time will be much simpler and you won't even have to open PowerDVD first.

I hope this helps!

icon0clast posted 2005 Oct 04 00:47

how would i go about creating a dvd with episodes or many video files and add subs to each one of them using dvdlab pro?

well, i tried and failed, i chose simple movie and added one video on movie 1 and then i added another video on movie 2, i then added subs on them both, then i proceeded to compile dvd and when it was done, i only got movie 1 correctly done and there was no movie 2, sad to add that movie 1 should only take half of a dvd disc, totaled 3.9gb.....?

any help is appreciated, thanks

icon0clast posted 2005 Oct 04 13:38

i got it to work, nevermind me, thanks for this guide!!!!!!!

...coolstream posted 2005 Oct 05 05:24

icon0clast, when you are creating your DVD you should create an image which can then be mounted in your PC into a virtual device (using something like Virtual Daemon). That way you can test the features of your new DVD without wasing a disc.

shai_allon posted 2005 Oct 09 03:28

to TheMatrixx:

Your guide is exellent!!
but a small thing: at the end (step 3: a) you DON'T HAVE to copy all the files again, specially if you don't have enought HD space. You ONLY need the VTS_01_0.IFO file!!

Thanks

TheMatrixx posted 2005 Oct 16 07:30

Hi guys, I'm back :D

My website dosen't exist anymore, so I will stick here for some time :)

For Lnwlfoeo - After you add the m2v file to DVD-lab PRO, go to Tools menu and click on Rewrite GOP Timecode

That should help you.

For MeDiCo_BrUjO: You are trying to add an SUB file (MicroDVD format) to DVD-lab PRO and it can't support that format. DVD-lab PRO uses another SUB format (yes there are more than one :) ) that I don't know yet. So try to convert the SUB files to SRT with Subtitle Workshop.
P.S.: DO NOT USE THE SUB FILES DEMUXED FROM DVD Decrypter...You should NOT demuxe them in the first place. :)

For shai_allon, I know that...but for some users was hard to explain...that they have to copy from the Original disc only some files..so better I thinked that they should copy all the files....so no one should ask...What files should I copy ? (couse every DVD it's has he's own structure) :D
-----------------------------

I will try to answer to other latest posts, some are very old I see...if you guys didn't solve the problems ...ask again and I will help you.

Have fun.

ill posted 2005 Oct 18 19:21

I'm having some issues with this process. I go through the entire thing and it appears to work as it should. However when I try to play the dvd, it goes through the intro stuff (copyright warning, etc.) but then hangs before it gets to the dvd menu. On the computer the disc just stops and on the dvd player it hangs for a few seconds before finally returning a "parental access violation" or something which I'm sure is just the dvd player getting confused. Hitting the menu key yields the same results. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

rubens posted 2005 Nov 05 13:45

Hello great job @TheMatrixx with this guide,but i have problem after the process in Step 3 f,files created after this process
VTS_01_1.VOB
VTS_01_2.VOB
VTS_01_3.VOB
each them have 1Gb

and file VTS_01_4.VOB have 80 mb but file VTS_01_4.VOB from original DVD
have 320 MB!

Is this correct,i sit over this projeckt I mean add polish sub to SW Episode3 about 4 days and i have no idea why this dvd is so stupid!

Please help me with this problem,sorry for my english!

Greetings from Poland

lyberty posted 2005 Nov 06 13:54

I'm a little confused by something:

If you want your DVD (when finished) to have BOTH the new subtitles
you just added AND the subtitles that were on the disk originally,

then why don't we add the demuxed subtitles from the Original DVD (file, or files, named "___.sub") to the DVD-lab project in
Step 2c?

(In other words:
2b. - Import video file to DVD-lab pro
- import audio files to DVD-lab pro
- import original Subtitle file to DVD-lab pro
2c. - Add all files to DVD-lab pro project. (Subtitle 1)
2d. - import chapters.
2e. - import new Subtitle file to DVD-lab pro. (Subtitle 2)
)?

marukomu posted 2005 Nov 12 07:06

I've used your guide and it's great. thanks.
but... I have a problem
I've got a disk with 5 vts_01 vob files (0-4) that are around 3.5gb.
when I try to demux the disk, I get pgc 1 [1;25;00] pgc2 [0;01;40] pgc 3 [00;20;25] and pgc4 [00;00;53].
I demuxed the first pgc and I get around 2.5gb in my demuxed dvd folder. when I finally finish everything and I am ready to copy ther new vob files there are only 4 (4 is missing and 3 is half the size. This creates a problem as the IFO file is then wrong.
If I try to set pgc 1 to demux and then set pgc3 to demux, pgc1 restets back to stream processing.

Any help?

marukomu posted 2005 Nov 14 07:44

sorted it. thanks

kremlincrackers posted 2005 Nov 19 12:33

TheMatrixx, thank you by your guide. But i have a problem.

I'm trying put portuguese subtitles at American Pie 4 DVD, i follow the guide all, and the ifoupdate correct vts sectors, everthing right. But when i go to record to DVD-R with nero give a error of reallocation of ifo files ( the vobs dont belong at ifo files)

Any way to resolve this?

thanks ;)

freeedy posted 2005 Nov 21 16:55

Hi,I had a little problem at the end. After updating the IFO I open the dvd and the subs change of color and size, they looked awful since they are really big. I was wondering if there is a reasonfor this and a way to avoid it. I know the problem was caused during the upadat since I open the dvd after replacing and it was find

Please help me.

kremlincrackers posted 2005 Nov 27 20:15

Hi to all.

Anyone add subtitles to the season 1 of "Lost"? I follow the guide of TV series, but unlucky :(

Help need.

tks :)

remus posted 2005 Nov 29 09:41

Hi TheMatrixx thank you for the great job done up to now. I tryed to open your site but is not anymore, so in this case how can I find the guide you made? I'm looking to add subtitles to a DVD that has none at all. So I have to make the translation also. It's possible to do that with your guide? You see, I'm new to the world of subtitling.

Gilgamesh200 posted 2005 Nov 29 19:36

HI, Nice job, I tryed this tuto and it worked well. However I have a small but nasty problem ! In my black and white gangster film my subtitles are !! blue and outlined pink !!! :evil: WTF ? I did selected white subs in DVDLAB before the last step where we must insert sub in dvd.. ''Optional:

1. You can chose the font color (White or Yellow).
2. You can chose the font face. (I suggest using a Arial font face).
3. You can chose the font size. (I suggest using a 22 size font).
4. You can chose the font style. (I suggest using Thick Outline style).

''

How can I fix that ? plz

jarebara posted 2005 Dec 03 04:20

hI Matrix I can't find your website
is it off the air?

thanks

remus posted 2005 Dec 05 09:45

Hi,
can somebody pleasehelp me with TheMatrix's guide. I can't access his site and I don't now where to find it.

Many thanks in advance.

...coolstream posted 2005 Dec 07 08:12

remus :

Hi,
can somebody pleasehelp me with TheMatrix's guide. I can't access his site and I don't now where to find it.

Many thanks in advance.

does this help?
http://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=219535&postdays=0& ... sc&start=0

TheMatrixx posted 2005 Dec 22 13:14

Hi guys! :)

The guide is right here guys! Page 1 of this very long topic :) What are you looking for? :D

My website is gone as it expired and I don't have money to buy it again for another year.

I wish you all a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! :D

tonemgub posted 2005 Dec 25 11:26

TheMatrixx :

P.S.: DO NOT USE THE SUB FILES DEMUXED FROM DVD Decrypter...You should NOT demuxe them in the first place. :)

wait so in step 1, we only need to check "demux" for the audio and video files? the subtitles should be "direct stream copy"?

thank you. and happy holidays!

TheMatrixx posted 2005 Dec 25 11:39

No, that subtitles are not for any use! Just ignore them.

If you want to rip them, use SubRip :)

Merry Christmas!

tonemgub posted 2005 Dec 25 11:58

oh so i should just uncheck them before demuxing...

ok, thank you very much!

Krzychu posted 2006 Feb 06 02:40

Hello TheMatrixx,
First big thanks for great guide!
However I got a problem with one movie - Flightplan (NTSC).
Followed exactly your guide, then simplified it (I need main movie with subs only), tried alternative tools (PgcDemux, Muxman, Rejig etc.) and the problem is always the same: video is abt 2 seconds delayed to audio!
I found that there is no audio delay in source material.
The only strange thing I noticed was after demuxing (by any tool) wrong GOP Timecode. Fixed that in DVD-lab but it didn't help.
Can you help me please??

Poyaan posted 2006 Feb 07 09:38

Krzychu: I have the exakt problem as you, but it's like 4seconds ahead the movie... please PM me if you know any way to fix this problem.

/Regards
Poyaan

TheMatrixx posted 2006 Feb 09 16:22

Hello!

Ok...so problem with the audio delay!

When you enter the audio stream in DVDlab PRO... click on it and go to the Tools menu and select Audio Delay.

In the window that appears enter the time that you think it's delayed. Krzychu said 2 seconds and Poyaan have 4 seconds :)

You have to enter the delayed time like this:

1. If the audio is behind the video (people talk in the movie and after 2 seconds audio comes), enter -2000 (for 2 seconds) or -4000 (for 4 seconds)
2. If the audio is ahead the video (audio comes before people talking in the movie), enter +2000 (for 2 seconds) or +4000 (for 4 seconds)

After this...delete the original audio from the list...and multiplex the movie with this delayed audio that has been created!

Good luck!

Krzychu posted 2006 Feb 10 00:55

Hi,
Thanks! Gonna try this and post results.
BTW any ideas why and when this happens? None of the programs show audio delay in muxed material... :?:

nteglsh posted 2006 Feb 13 12:18

First, I must say that this guide is excellent!! thank's a lot for the TheXatrixx..!

and for my little problem - everything worked fine for me, but my problem is with the subtitles colour. When I checked the created movie (in the folder 'final') the colour was good - White.

But when I copied those VOB files to the 'original' folder and watched the movie - suddenly the subtitles colour was Yellow.

Why is that?? maybe it's just a problem on my computer, and on the dvd player it will be okay? (don't think so because PowerDVD is like a regular dvd).

Anyone have a solution??

thank's!

Moviex posted 2006 Feb 19 02:59

hi matrixx!
I have read all of the post in your guide completly
I have a big problem like biogfir2
when I demux a DVD in my HDD the time of the movie will be short than the origional one.
what can I do to solve this problem?
please guide me!!!

Woeter posted 2006 Feb 21 10:57

Heya matrixx,

first of all, great guide :)

There is only 1 thing that does not work...

I got the subtitles in to the movie and everything works fine.

The subtitles are perfectly synchronized with the voices etc, untill i get further in to the movie...

When i'm about halfway the movie, the subtitles start to come with a delay, which go from bad to worse.

At the end of the movie, their delay is about 3 - 5 seconds!

How can i fix this?

Nazgul.Gondor posted 2006 Feb 23 05:15

Hi,

I have some questions about the proccess.

1) When I create the three folders, Original, Demuxed and Final, what do I put in the Original DVD folder?
2) In step three what do you mean by "Copy from the DVD-ROM in "Original DVD" folder all the files of the disc with DVD Decrypter in File Mode". What is File Mode?
3) How do I know which *VOB files contain the movie?

Matrixx Please Answer.

Thanks

TheMatrixx posted 2006 Feb 24 12:01

Hello all! :)

For nteglsh ... It's yellow when you move them and watch the movie right away... You have to do the Ifo Update STEP!!! Then Ifo Update will copy the color of the subtitle and will be white!

For Moviex .. with what program do you demux the video from the DVD ?

For Woeter .. the delay is constant or it start with a little delay... and after that .. 'till the end of the movie it's getting bigger?

For Nazgul.Gondor ... I have answerd you on private!

Thornman2006 posted 2006 Feb 25 18:33

Hey, The Matrixx. I have a problem which requires your expertise. What I'm trying to do is add a subtitle to a custom DVD movie (with menus) that I created.

I have done all the steps that your guide includes in creating a switchable subtitle on a DVD movie. However, I haven't been able to do the final step, which is to rename the files and use IFOUPDATE to put everything in place. The process doesn't come out the way I want. And it leaves me only with the previous final product, a movie without a menu. (My problem is that I can't get pass the renaming step and the IFOUPDATE procedure.)

I would appreciate your help.

TheMatrixx posted 2006 Feb 25 18:51

Hi!

I don't think you have to rename anything. If you did the DVD... I am sure the the movie is in the VTS_01_xx VOB set and it dosen't need to be renamed because the output files from the DVD-lab PRO are the same with your files.... just take all the VTS_01_xx VOB files and put them over the original ones (make sure you have a backup and it's not your only copy) and do the Ifo Update process.

I hope I make things clear for you :)

Thornman2006 posted 2006 Feb 26 10:33

I'm sorry, Matrixx. I have another problem. This is the problem that seems to be preventing me from finishing the entire process. I can't seem to update the DVD files using IFOUPDATE. The problem is that when I browse for the two first files (from the "original IFO path" and the "authored IFO path"), I'm lost when it come to finding the file with the extension .bak (in the "back up IFO path"). Can you tell me how can I get this file? Thank you.

TheMatrixx posted 2006 Feb 26 11:28

At path 3 ... you just hit the Browse button ... and choose a folder or the Desktop and press Save :) You don't have to find any file :D

That's a backup that will be created where you put it :D

Thornman2006 posted 2006 Feb 26 12:14

Thanks. Since the back up file isn't shown on the browser, it confused the heck out of me. But then I pressed "open,"it did it automatically. Thanks for the help. The DVD final job worked just fine. It includes my own menu and chapter menu. But it seems that when I choose a chapter, it won't work; the screen goes black. I will just have to figure out what I did wrong.

Woeter posted 2006 Mar 01 04:06

Hey Matrixx

The subtitles start perfect synchronised, and get bigger later in the movie.

They start to delay more every few minutes, at the end of the movie, the delay is about 5 seconds

mitzplik posted 2006 Mar 02 11:46

I'm having a hard time with subtitle colors...

After playing with the softwares for a while I discovered that IFO Update is responsible for the movie not having the original subtitle colors, because if I "correct VTS sectors" with IFO Update I can have the original subtitle colors, but I lose the menu. (w/ IFO Update v.0.78)

So I tried testing with another version of the program (v.0.46). It gave me the correct colors and the menu, but while trying to burn it with Nero I had an error messagem (something related to VIDEO_TS.VOB). The burned DVD didn't work...

So, the problem is really related to IFO Update. We just need to know which options in its setup can correct this problem. What version of the program are you guys using and which options did you mark?

"Transfer VTS_C_ADT Table" should be marked or not? Mine is unchecked
"Copy color table..." and "Copy Audio and..." are checked
"Autoanalyze original IFO" is marked also.

Mode is set as "Standard"

Are these options OK or should I change anything?

Also, do we need to "Correct VTS sectors"??

Thanks guys, this thread is awesome

johan the olive posted 2006 Mar 03 11:10

Great guide, haven't tried it or anything but will likely do so soon. I do have one question though. I want to add subtitles to the movie BUT I also want to add an audio stream (say the original has only a 2.1 and I want to add a 5.1), would a similar process work, just adding the 5.1 along with the 2.0 tracks when recompiling the dvd in dvd-lab? The DVD would probably be oversized so it would likely need to be recompressed. Thanks.

iksssy posted 2006 Mar 04 08:07

Hi TheMatrixx!
I didn't read all the posts but anyway..
I have a little problem with subtitles! There's no black line around fonts so subtitles aren't readable if there is white background. I followed to your guide (step 2e), selected Arial font face and Thick Outline style and tried other styles too but didn't make any difference.
Please help me!

DJ_YIC posted 2006 Mar 11 15:50

Hey i really need help i tryed it three times and still i have some problems always there is something different what is wrong and my problem now is that when i finish editing the move and burn it there are no subs but if i play it in zoomplayer it works but in the first minutes everything ok then every 10-20minutes there comes a delay from 5 sec`s so at the end of the movie there is a delay of more than 30sec`s maybe more and also one party of the movie audio and video line are not correct just about 5 minutes. . . .

the movie is splitted in two parts and it is in *.avi teh subtitles are in *.srt

and i realy tryed my best first i produced an ordinarry dvd with chapters then i burned it and then i kopied it from dvd how it is written here really please i need help if you need more informations about what i did please e mail me or something

THX DJ

DJ_YIC posted 2006 Mar 11 16:01

Hey sorry i am anoying

but i thought about the first time i visited the forum and did the whole thing i just saw that there at the end when you do the step where two windows appere may be you schould write what there is written on because i got two windows but one of them seem to be a warning or a mistake or something may be you guys are so kind and find a way to help me

THX

Thornman2006 posted 2006 Mar 12 00:25

Matrixx, I have a problem. When I added the subtitles to a movie, it stopped showing after 48 minutes. The subtitles work fine without the drag and drop process. After the drag and drop is done, and the ifoupdate step is finished, one of the scenes in the movie seems to skip forward...and that's where the subtitles stops showing...never to be seen again. What do you think the problem is?

nteglsh posted 2006 Mar 17 13:21

TheMatrixx,

Is it possible to choose the location of the subtitles in the movie??

I don't want them to appear on the frame.. just in the lower black part that I got (I have a "regular" TV).

Is it possible?

Thank you very much!

edward77 posted 2006 Mar 29 23:01

TheMatrixx :

Matrixx, this is really a good guide, I've used it for quite a long time by now, hehehe, I haven't learned it by hard so I still look at it in here for some details, OF COURSE I CREATED A PDF FROM THIS VERY SAME PAGE!!! (did you think I would always be connected to the internet while reauthoring just to see the guide? LOL :P ).

But only after all this time I realized I had to post this issue, I never thought about it, but its about the "you keep the original subtitles AND THE NEW ONE". Well.... :scratch:

It has never worked that way for me. I ALWAYS HAD TO RECREATE THE SUBS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY IN THE DVD.

And if you think about it, its logical that you would NEVER KEEP THE ORIGINAL SUBTITLES. HERE'S THE TECHNICAL EXPLANATION:

1.- You demuxed video and audio streams and use them in DVDLab PRO.

2.- Then you import chapters, creating a IDX file and you have the same TITLES STRUCTURE in your VTS , that is, the chapters.

3.- You import YOUR DESIRED SUBTITLES to a subtitle stream. (as much as you like).

Finally you compile the MOVIE ONLY DVD, and replace ALL THE MAIN VTS VOBs, and edit the IFO, so the structure CAN BE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE THE NEW SUBSTREAMS YOU JUST ADDED.

Here is the thread: As you are replacing the ORIGINAL SET OF VOBs, for the main VTS, THE ORIGINAL SUBTITLES ARE GONE FOREVER. Why? Because VOBs are just container files, like avi's and mpegs, the only difference is that they contain, (along with menus, back in the early days of DVD, when they didnt use another VOB specifically to contain just the menus) AUDIO, VIDEO & SUBTITLE STREAMS.

That means that you are creating a "twin" set of VOBs, NOT CLONING THEM AND ENHANCING THEM WITH MORE SUBTITLES.

And I say "TWIN" cause they look pretty the same, but they are not.

The difference between these TWIN SET OF VOBs are, YOU GUESSED, the subtitle streams: EACH ONE HAS THEIR OWN DIFFERENT STREAMS.

They work because you edit the IFO file corresponding to the set of VOBs, and by performing that step, you delete the reference to the original sub streams in the set of VOBs, and replace it with a reference to the new ones.

I never thought it was a problem, but now that I was inserting my mother tongue subs to a DVD that originally came with 20, yes thats right, 20 SUBTITLES.... I realized it was time to say I've been inserting ALL THE SUSTITLE STREAMS while compiling in DVDLAB PRO. Cause I wasn't willing to insert 21 subtitle streams, JUST ONE!! hehehe.

Well, its funny noone mentioned this issue before.

Great guide Matrixx, but I think that, as the main porpouse of the guide is to ADD an extra subtitle, NOT REPLACING THE ORIGINAL ONES, this had to be said. So, maybe it would be nice to, after so many years, update the guide, and point out that you have to rip ALL THE ORIGINAL SUBS, plus add the ones that you want, AND INSERT THEM ALL IN THE DVDLAB PRO MOVIE ONLY PROJECT, SO YOU CAN REALLY GET THE ORIGINAL SUBTITLES plus THE ONES YOU WANT TO ADD.

Dont get me wrong, Im not complaining, nor trying to discredit your guide, I THINK ITS A GREAT GUIDE CAUSE IT ALLOWS TO KEEP THE ORIGINAL APPEARANCE OF YOUR DVD, but I think someone had to point out the "LOST ORIGINAL SUB STREAMS" issue at some time.

FIRST OF ALL, RESPECT & RECOGNITION TO YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS GUIDE TheMatrixx.
:thumbs_up: :salut:
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marwan24 posted 2006 Apr 12 14:12

i need help

i do everything but in the final product subtitles are bold and gray?!?!?!

Knoxxio posted 2006 Apr 25 03:28

TheMatrixx :

I encountered a problem if there is already a subtitle stream. I had followed exactly what you wrote. 1st Time I demuxed the DVD including the existing sutbtitlestream, but DVDLAB can't reinsert what DVDDecrypter had demuxed. 2nd Time I did it without.
After compiling and merging the files, I discovered that I miss the original subtitled file.
Adding the new compilation as a VTS-set produces a DVD more than 4.7Gb. Seems not an option.
What about if I do: JOIN and DEMUX the original VOBS first and then ADD the new subtitle?
Another question:

Is there a way how to delay the subtitlestream? Because the new one is out of sync.

Joe_Black posted 2006 May 14 08:47

Hey man Matrix.. i really need your help.. i've been stuck for a week because i can't find import chapters button and pressing right click doesn't show me import chapter.. only import!
i hope you see this message because your last post was in 2004.. and now it's 2006.. :( i'll wait for any sign..

Esti din romania? si eu...dak poti sa-mi dai adresa d mail ..dak nu iti dau eu adresa mea.. pt k nu mai stiu c sa fac.. Ghidul tau pare cel mai simplu..da numai mie nu imi merge..
pharrell_justin@yahoo.com... asta e.. sper sa ma apelezi.. dak nu.. renunt la ideea d a pune o sub. rom pe un dvd.. strain...

pa-pa

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Joe_Black posted 2006 May 14 08:50

ups.. your last post was in Feb 26, 2006 19:28 :D :P sorry

richard_m_morales posted 2006 Jul 24 18:33

Hey Matrix. I used Tsunami MPEG DVD Author to make my menus and authored that and then gonna attempt to use most of this guide to add the subtitles to the movie afterwards. Using the DVD Files that I got from using Tsunami MPEG DVD Author as the source files. I hope this works. Seeing as the original file is a Xvid avi file and a SRT subtitle file.

Edit: I followed the guide starting with Step 2 and using the M2P and M2V files that I got after demuxing using TMPGenc Plus but before using Tsunami MPEG DVD Author instead of demuxing from the after using Tsunami MPEG DVD Author and it worked. So far. Just have to burn to DVD+R and test that.

jare3094 posted 2006 Jul 30 23:03

Hi Matrixx, so sad about your web site, how much will cost you to buy your web site again?
I'll help you to pay. just a way to say thank you.

rock_king_my posted 2006 Aug 01 03:31

Hi

The guide says you can demux your DVDs in your DVD-ROM with DVDDECRYPTER, right?

I have copied a DVD into my HDD (not using DVDDECRYPTER). Now I want to demux it (split the video, audio, subs) with DVDDECRYPTER but it won't open files from my DVD, just the DVD-ROM & the-so-called VIRTUAL DRIVE.

How can I get round this?

mohannad_j posted 2006 Aug 19 20:53

HI ALL

ONE SIMPLE QUSTION ?
the movie folder contians a lot of vts files ?
what of these files will drag to movie box to added subtitle in this movie.? because the project need one file only?

same as audio?

thXX

kschang posted 2006 Aug 19 22:30

None. The subtitles are actually packed into the VOB files. VTS are sort of the indices to the VOBs. Same with audio.

TheMatrixx posted 2006 Aug 22 04:29

jare3094 - Thank you, but the website has been bought by someone else and made an XXX site as I saw. There is nothing anyone can do now, but thank you!

TheMatrixx posted 2006 Aug 24 16:33

==IMPORTANT==

I want everybody that reads this guide, to know that I am not active anymore (for about 1 year) in this 'domain'. I didn't add any more subtitles for more than 1 year. I have a full day job and I don't have time for this anymore.

I don't even use Windows anymore, for more than 5 months now.

I am so sorry if I disappoint anyone!

Please help each other!

Best regards.

fibola posted 2006 Aug 30 13:36

is there a way to check syncoronizing before doing the hole project , like when you adding sub to avi file you can check sync with subtitle workshop , but SW doesnt support dvd , i can load one vob at a time and this way i cant check the hole movie.

if anyone know a way ill be grateful.

thanx

p.s
great guide.

fibola posted 2006 Sep 01 08:56

i succeed in one movie according to this guide , but at the second one im tring i get a message during the subtitle part after i press generate subtitle stream i get a message of OUT OF MEMORY
what is it and why does it happen and most important how can i fix it ?

Juliana posted 2006 Sep 01 17:35

i cant sync the sub for my dvd =[

fibola posted 2006 Sep 02 03:11

juliana , dont bother, i dont think anyone is watching this old post and all the more so we are at page 16.

kschang posted 2006 Sep 03 19:01

You can try loading the movie in MPC or VLC. They will load the entire directory, and both support subtitles.

philip-moller posted 2006 Sep 10 08:40

i havent found the answer on my question in the forum so i though to write it to you and you might could give me the clue;-)

its about the final step with the guide. the "ifo" program.
when i have selected the 2 files and then selected where i want to backup. i push the "update ifo" butten. telling me to say yes about the "writing updates to ifo and bup. ALL good. but then next window its gives me and ERROR about the original ifos pgc area is not large enouh to hold the new pgc. and its aborting.

what am i doing wrong? some thing about where i save the backup or what? every other action in your guide has work perfect i think and i have put on an ekstra sub (i hope;-) )

alex5523 posted 2006 Sep 10 16:18

how can i know if its ntsc or pal?? as i downloaded the dvd from the internet

impulse_16 posted 2006 Sep 28 21:06

hey guys, I copied the subtitles to my avi file, and then converted to dvd. and when i play the vob it works great...i dont have to do anything else in order for the subtitles to appear once i burn the dvd and play it on my dvd player, right?

pompeia posted 2006 Oct 24 22:53

I copy the movie files with DVD Decrypter in File Mode
12.288 VIDEO_TS.BUP
12.288 VIDEO_TS.IFO
38.912 VIDEO_TS.VOB
63.488 VTS_01_0.BUP
63.488 VTS_01_0.IFO
4.499.456 VTS_01_0.VOB
1.072.846.848 VTS_01_1.VOB
1.072.498.688 VTS_01_2.VOB
1.072.533.504 VTS_01_3.VOB
494.749.696 VTS_01_4.VOB
This have a menu, the video, and sound channel 5.1 and 4 subtitles
3 in nederlands language (normal, big and italic) and one in english
and I follow all instructions, import a srt subtitle in portuguese
generate new DVD with dvd lab pro, copy over the files (they have the
sane names and length VTS_01_1.VOB to VTS_01_4.VOB
I did the change to IFO with IfoUpdate on VTS_01_0.IFO
I Open the DVD into DVD power and the movie and sound ok but no more
subtitles at all.He enters menu. I try every combination and no subtitle.
Using Subrip 1.5 with the file VTS_01_0.ifo no subtitles was found.
Using it on original he shows normally nederland or english.

The is some problem into dvdlab so it did not generate the subtitles?
Sure I did exactly what you say and it appears at sub line.
There is a way to put a subtitle in place of one that already exists?
thanks.

fibola posted 2006 Nov 19 01:45

pompeia :

try to enter different values for the bottom subtitle. in the subtitle page there is button (im at work and cant remember it exactly but it at the left from the generate button) go there and enter 110 it should move the sub to the middle of themovie and if that will fix it u can go there later and lower the value until it be placed at good position.

fibola posted 2006 Nov 19 01:49

i have sync problem with this guide , i found a perfect sync subtitle for the dvd (i converted the vob to avi and run it in subtitle Workshop with the sub and it was perfect !!).
But when i finished the project and run the movie there is 1+ second's sync problem i tried also pal and also ntsc project but in them both the sync appears.

anyone know why this is happening and is there a way to fix it ?

thanx

omega6666 posted 2006 Nov 21 04:24

I was wondering; I've purchased myself a 4 disc version of Howl's Moving Castle. The first disc contains excellent videoquality with only one perfect DTS ES 6.1 audio stream, but unfortunately NO subs!!! The second disc contains the movie with inferior image-quality, 5 silly stereo (!) audio streams, BUT it contains the subs I need.

My question; is it possible to add the subs from the second disc to the perfect video and audio of the first disc, with a simplified demux-mux method maybe? Could I maybe simply copy the IFO file from the second disc over the IFO of the first one, to let it know which subs there are, and simply copy a demuxed sub from the 2nd disc somehow?

kremlincrackers posted 2006 Nov 26 11:00

Hello to all.

I use this guide for all my dvds to add subs and is 100%.
But i buy The OC - Season 3 and in decrypter i get this:

A PGC "Play All" and 4 PGC with the 4 episodes.

I have created the 4 PGC with dvdlab, but i need the pgc play all to the dvd work.
I have use the pgcedit to create a pgc "play all" but will be title 5.
I want to know how can change position of a pgc to move the play all from title 5 to tile 1.

Tks :wink:

lucidius posted 2006 Dec 11 13:07

Hi.

The tut. is great, but i have one problem. When i am have multiplexed the final dvd with DVD-lab the movie have taken a speed up. It goes twice as fast as it normally would.
Can anyon help me with that???

Thanks in advance...

qiaoxinger posted 2006 Dec 22 21:26

SPAM

familytan4 posted 2007 Jan 14 04:32

TheMatrixx :

Hi,
I did do everything throught step by step as your guide, and everything was OK , but I do not know which files or where the files located (Demuxed DVD, Final DVD or Original DVD) to burn to DVD ? , what software can I use to burn?
Please , help me . Thank You

KALISTRATA posted 2007 Jan 14 13:16

hello

kalincar posted 2007 Jan 17 14:43

hi,this guide work very good,but on some movies there is no pal or ntsc just pulldown 3:2,pls tell me whats that mind?
Thanks
Kalin

alitomr posted 2007 Feb 10 00:07

I cant get dvd decrypter to keep the demuxing options for more than one of the main movies in TV series dvds. Is there a way around this?

As it is, the guide only works for movies with ONE main MOvie.

repsimus posted 2007 Feb 10 11:07

I have a problem...
Until step 2/a everything goes fine. At step 2/b, when I import the audio file it accept's it, but then, when I am trying to import the 1st mpeg file the dvdlab-pro shows me a window with an ignorable error, still o.k., and then, I tryied to import the 2nd mpeg file and the program shows me an anignorable error and I just can't import the rest of the movie files! It also recommands me to fix the stream headers (tool menu). I tryied to do this and it pops a box that says: "nothing was fixed" or something like that.
Please someone help me! Please!
I think it's the process with DVD Decrypter that goes wrong!
(I downloaded the movie from the internet in DVD files: .ifo, .vob, etc.)

repsimus posted 2007 Feb 10 11:15

I just did one mistake that I just saw! At IFO MODE (DVD Decrypter) I didn't set the file spliting to "None"!!! :S
I'll just try that again! :D

Freddy_Krueger posted 2007 Feb 15 05:17

lucidius :

Hi

I have the exact same problem with the x-files and the millennium series. I don't know how we can add or even replace subtitles on Tv Shows. I bought the original without subtitles in Portuguese, and I was trying to add with this tuturial [witch is great, but only works on movies apparently], and got stuck in the middle, because in IFO Mode only passes a episode at a time, and if you try to pass the second it replaces the files.... How can we at least replace an existing subtitle? is it possible?

alexeyr posted 2007 Feb 15 06:42

http://www.divxtitles.com/

You are in breach of the forum rules and are being issued with a formal warning.
/ Moderator Baldrick

zloinaopako posted 2007 Feb 20 08:18

hi thematrix
i have problem in step 2. when i hit generate subtitle stream there is no processing but window open and gives me only opportunity to save some file (sp1) but even after i hit save nothing happens :?:
can you help me with this problem

fpetit posted 2007 Mar 04 14:55

The million dollar question
-------------------------------

I've been looking for a program that allows me to subtitle a DVD...I couldn't find it so far. All those programs out there only let you multiplex SYNC subtitles that already exists. How do you insert/create a NEW subtitle if you CAN'T have a preview of video, audio and subtitles???.
I wasn't able to find an application just like Subtitle Workshop which is excellent for DivX. Is there something like this for DVDs?

manono posted 2007 Mar 04 16:54

Hi-

For me, audio is enough to use to synch the subs. I use SubStation Alpha and create the subs in SSA format. You extract the audio from the DVD as WAV audio (DGIndex can do this easily, Audio->Output Method->Decode to WAV) and convert it to an 8-bit Mono WAV file using some WAV Editor. Then you can open that WAV file in SubStation Alpha and go to work making subs. After you're done, if your authoring app doesn't accept SSA subs, just convert them to something else it does accept.

If you insist on using both video and audio for the synching, then use AutoGK's 1-pass Target Quality Mode to make a fast AVI. To make the encoding go a bit faster, fix the width at 512 or something small like that.

Those are just 2 ways to create already synched up subs. There are more, I'm sure.

Synching up subs you downloaded somewhere is different. You have to adjust them if your video is PAL and your subs for NTSC or vice-versa. And you might have to adjust the delay a bit. I might make a quick AVI for that as well, although it isn't always necessary.

fpetit posted 2007 Mar 04 17:54

Those methods are not serious to do the job. Suppose you have to translate the WHOLE movie into a new language.

saga_gx posted 2007 Mar 12 15:47

hi, newbie in the forum

I followed the guide but I'm having some problems with the extras on the dvd.

On the original dvd, all the video, extras included are under VTS_01_x
and when i demux the content with dvd decrypter I only get the main movie but not the extras in it.
So when I replace the original files the first part of the extras is left out (wich starts at half vts_01_4)

My question is how do i get dvd decrypter to include the extras when the movie is extracted from the dvd. so I don't lose them in the process of adding the subs for the main movie.
thanks

manono posted 2007 Mar 12 20:00

Hi-

If you want everything, decrypt with DVD Decrypter set for File Mode. It sounds to me as if you have it set for IFO Mode, which will only give you the main movie, unless you decrypt the other PGCs separately.

saga_gx posted 2007 Mar 12 21:11

yes, I have it on ifo mode as the guide says

manono posted 2007 Mar 12 21:22

As I said, if you use IFO Mode, you'll get just the movie, because the extras, while in the same VTS, are in different PGCs. I'm sure you can see them, even though DVD Decrypter chooses the longest PGC (the movie) by default. Again, if you want the whole thing in one go, use File Mode. Or stay in IFO Mode and decrypt the extras separately. Or get everything at once using File Mode and then get the different PGCs after that using PGCDemux.

My recommendation is to use File Mode on the whole DVD, and then demux what you want using PGCDemux. That guide is old and out of date. You sure as heck don't need DVDLab Pro to do what you want.

For DVD, do each PGC separately, and then replace them back into the DVD after reencoding, using the Replace button of VobBlanker. That way you'll keep the menus and whatever else you might want of the extras, at the same time blanking out any warnings, previews or extras that you might not want to keep.

saga_gx posted 2007 Mar 13 16:15

Is there a way to get all the pgc as one large video file? ,
so I don't have to join everything before muxing it

I've been following this guide now
http://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=275603
but my problem is how to put everything together. I mean the movie and the extras.

manono posted 2007 Mar 13 21:52

That's a more up-to-date guide, follows the generally recommended method in use these days, and is the method I outlined briefly in my previous post.

You don't have to join anything together. Just use Muxman to author the different PGCs, and then replace them one-by-one using VobBlanker. Have you even opened the original DVD in VobBlanker yet, and seen the various PGCs all listed separately?

As mentioned farther down in the responses to that guide, you no longer need IFOEdit for working with the subs. PGCEdit does it faster and more easily.

Aprophis posted 2007 Mar 30 06:05

Hey there

I followed your guide but when i had finished the subtitle stream didn't match the movie/audio (the subtitles were shown before the people spoke) - maybe i didn't choose the right .srt file, but how do I know which subtitle stream is the right one for my movie??

Thank you

manono posted 2007 Mar 30 06:29

Hi-

If the subs are off by the same amount all the way through the DVD, you can adjust their delay using DVDSubEdit. If they get worse and worse as the movie goes along, then probably you started with NTSC subs where the DVD you made is PAL, or vice-versa. Then you should adjust the subs before adding them into the DVD.

Aprophis posted 2007 Mar 30 06:42

How can I adjust the subs?? (it's an NTSC dvd movie)

manono posted 2007 Mar 30 07:11

It might help if you actually gave the right information. Do you have a constant asynch (off the same amount all the way through)? I said the subs in the finished DVD can be adjusted using DVDSubEdit:

http://download.videohelp.com/DVDSubEdit/UserManual/helpfile.htm

Section 3.2

Do you have a progressive asynch (gets worse as the movie goes along)? You said the DVD is NTSC. So maybe the subs are from the PAL version. In what format are the subs? If IDX/SUB, you change from 25->23.976 using the "Modify FPS" part of the Sub File Cutter that comes with VobSub. If SRT subs, you can change the framerate using Subtitle Creator before using them in the DVD.

Aprophis posted 2007 Mar 30 07:46

Hey again

So PAL movies are 25 and NTSC movies are 23.976 (excuse me, this is very new foor me)

manono posted 2007 Mar 30 08:48

Yes.

Aprophis posted 2007 Mar 30 12:15

Which kind of subtitles do you all use the most?? .srt .sub ...?

Aprophis posted 2007 Mar 30 12:15

and where do you find them? :)

Aprophis posted 2007 Mar 31 14:03

Once i have removed the delay from the subs, what do i have to do next because i'm under the impression that nothing has happened with the subs....??

manono posted 2007 Mar 31 18:26

The timestamps should have changed. Put the subs back into the DVD now.

niko_nikic posted 2007 Apr 05 06:37

Hi
Does this tutorial work with a DVD that has NO subtitles yet, and I want to add the first one? If it's possible, how can I do that?

Please help!!!! :D

josecuervo posted 2007 Apr 15 22:21

TheMatrixx

Thank You so much !!!
This guide works just perfect !!!
I had some problems with the subtitles i downloaded fron the net, they were out of sync i used SubAdjust to fix the problem if you had encounter this problem this is what i did:
open subadjust
select the source file (we are going to use the timings from the riped DVD, since then they have the perfect time) they are located in the Demuxed DVD carpet we created at the begining of the guide (vts_number_number_subtitle_language_etc)
select the target file(s) the one(s) you downloaded
I left everything as custom , I didnt change o choose anything
click go and wait.
when tis done just follow the guide to add the sub you just fix step 2. e
this work for me, hope it work for you
Again TheMatrix thank you !

hanime22 posted 2007 Apr 16 02:56

Hi,
I started using this guide a few days ago and I have to say it is the best. Thank you Matrixx for making it possible to watch movies with the subtitles usually ignored by the production companies.
My first 2 conversions (1 PAL, 1 NTSC) were perfect. Both had AC3 2ch audio.
I have a problem with my third movie. The audio is AC3 5.1ch. The final audio is gargled and has a very low quality. I listened to the Demuxed AC3 stream and it sounds fine. So, it seems like a problem in the multiplexing by DVD-Lab. The movie time is 1:24:24. One weird thing I have noticed inside DVD-Lab is in the length of each stream:

The AC3 stream 1:24:24 (like the original)
The Video stream 2:24:23 (Almost 1 hour longer)

When I try to preview the movie in DVD-Lab, the time starts at 59:59.

I don't know if this is the cause of the problem. Any ideas?

Thank you.

driguy posted 2007 Apr 16 03:24

In DVDLab, go to Tools, -> Rewrite GOP Timecode... That will rewrite the "Start Time" of the video elementary stream to 0:0:00.

As for the sound being garbled... There are many reasons why that could be. I have no idea what you are using to listen to the .AC3 file by itself. I'd need some more information in order to be able to help you with this specific problem.

EDIT: Maybe you should start a new post pertaining to the audio being garbled after compile in DVDLab but not when you listen to it (with whatever program it is you listen to it with). I'm sure another member of the forum could shed some light on it for you, provided you give them enough details.

guyx1992 posted 2007 Apr 17 14:23

First of all, thanx TheMatrixx!
i have a problem.. on step 2b, when i need to import the audio and video files i can only find the video files... :X
the DVD is NTSC...
please help :P

cemman posted 2007 May 02 06:29

Hi, it's too bad that no white rabbit to chase around anymore but that's life and I am happy 4 Matrix that he got a life and thanks to him there is this little 17 page of help fountain.

Now, is there anybody out there that would know anything about DvdDecrypter not being able to extract the audio from dvd?

Out of 5 times only once I was able to get a audio file all the other times there is no audio file in demuxed folder... So if anybody suggest anything I appreciate it. Thanks

cemman posted 2007 May 02 08:53

'' Or you can make the whole thing with the new guide. :wink: ''
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Matrix had a new guide! But the link doesn't exists anymore! So anybody had a chance to download it would you please post it here?

Also, as you know I had problem with demuxing audio with DVDDecrypter. So I tried DVDFab Decrypter yet it doesn't demux the dvd it just rips it!
So does anyone knows an alternative program which I can use for STEP 1 - DVD Decrypter in this guide? I want to use it in IFO mode, not just to rip the whole thing...

(a). Insert in the DVD-ROM the disc on which you want to add a subtitle. Open DVD Decrypter, go to Tools menu and then press "Settings" and after that press "IFO Mode" tab and set the parameters like in the image below.)

Thanx

Janenba posted 2007 May 08 03:35

MANY TNX to matrix who provided us whit an tutorial to getting us start...
Also big tnx to all those who lend us their ear and helped us out.

Up until Know everthing still works great. Ive had done Pal and Ntsc both through IfoUpdate to keep menus and such.

However, when i do an NTSC source and re-compile the whole thing, when watching it starts an piece of the movie like 15 - 25 secs and then skipps to the menu!!!!

Can some one help me Clearing that out for me please !! It happends whit every NTSC source to date ive made and it never ocurs whit pal sources. Pal works just GREAT time and again. But once i start the movie through the menu it plays everything just fine. Subtitle and audio aswell plays everything in synch :)
Ive read storys about reijig performing better. But i dont know how to keep menus by only using Reijig!? I thought Reijg wos another Author program. But my problem lies beyond that.

many tnx in advance,

urs jannenba,

SilverDales posted 2007 May 12 03:33

Hi, my problem is I have an AVI I have converted with DVD2SVCD to MPEG format demuxed to .mpv and AC3 files. I always use DVDLab to author my movies and this was my first Subtitles movie. I followed everything right in guides but when I burn and play on my standalone the subtitles are played in the black bottom bar and are too low down the screen and some don't show at all. How do I bring them up higher? I also can't seem to preview what I'm doing in DVDLab.

manono posted 2007 May 12 03:57

Hi-

How do I bring them up higher?

Unless you "burned" or "embedded" them into the video, you can raise them using DVDSubEdit:

http://download.videohelp.com/DVDSubEdit/UserManual/helpfile.htm

Section 2.7

SilverDales posted 2007 May 12 04:19

Well I think they become part of the vob files during the authoring.

manono posted 2007 May 12 06:53

Well I think they become part of the vob files during the authoring.

If you already know the answer, then why bother asking the question? Did you even try what I suggested? Did you even look at the part of the guide that discusses this?

SilverDales posted 2007 May 12 09:26

Heh sorry man! Chill out, I was going to add thanks for the reply and tip it works great. I DIDN'T know the answer and was completely in the dark. I replied to your query about if they were "burned" or "embedded" as I didn't know what that meant and was hoping you could tell me. I don't think my first reply indicates I knew the answer at all. If it did then it shows how much I knew about subs.
Any way I am now sorting the problem thanks.

catalin posted 2007 May 17 03:18

Hello,

Thank you for this wonderful guide.
I've used it and I had many good results. However, I've got a strage situation: with some DVDs the newly added subtitle isn't showed. I can see from the PowerDVD player's menu that I have the subtitle but when I'm selecting it, I can't see it on my monitor/TV.
If I want to extract the newly added subtitle from the created DVD using SubRip, then my result is empty. I can't see anything in the extracted subtitle.
I've tried to match the existing subtitle color but still no good result.

Is it someone who can help me in solving this problem?

Thank you very much.

P.S.: I've searched the net about this problem, found some replies but nothing clear about the solution. Sorry, I'm a noob.

dw2505 posted 2007 Jun 17 14:21

DVD Subtitle Guide using DVD-lab PRO trying to use this guide but am an absolute learner. I have all the software installed by got suck at the first hurdle.
i started with an avi file which i have converted to video file image how do i mount this in daemon tools

kammino posted 2007 Jun 28 14:11

Tried to add spanish subs to a copy of the movie "Shooter". Did everything by the book but when I go to "STEP 3 - Update the original IFO files" the finished DVD only shows the very first subtitle only and the rest won't show. Any help on this?

manono posted 2007 Jun 28 14:53

Yeah, that guide is kind of obsolete, and isn't really for adding new subs, but for replacing subs, keeping the subs count the same. Here's how you get your DVD to "see" the new subs:

Open the final DVD in PGCEdit, double-click on the movie in the left window, turn on the first (or newest) sub by opening it and "Set". If there are already existing subs, move the slider(s) to the next higher number(s), the next number(s) not in use by the other sub stream(s). OK your way out to the main window. Find the green reel of film icon along the top row of icons and click on it. It's going to give you a message about the number of sub streams changing. "Yes", set the language in the new window if you wish, OK back to the main screen again, Save, and Test.

kingshay posted 2007 Jul 07 16:57

Hello, I'm New here as you can see... :)

my problem is that:

In the start of the movie, the subs are coming at the time, and as the movie goes forward - the subs comes earlier than what heppens in the movie.

manono posted 2007 Jul 07 20:00

Hi-

And the DVD is an NTSC DVD? If so, most likely you have the wrong subs - you have subs for the PAL 25fps version. If so, for every hundred minutes of movie, the subs will go about 4 minutes ahead. Maybe see if it's like that at the hundred minute (1 hour 40 minutes) mark. And if true, you'll have to start all over, and synch the subs to the movie before authoring for DVD.

kingshay posted 2007 Jul 08 03:16

I forgot to say, Thx TheMatrixx for the guide! and thank you manono for the help!

I know the sub is synch to the the movie: the name of the movie - Shooter.DVDR-Replica & the name of the subs: Shooter.DVDR-Replica.srt

but i think, as you say, that they on PAL or somthing...

OK, so how can I do that?

manono posted 2007 Jul 08 08:25

Hi-

Yeah, Replica stuff is NTSC. I'm not quite sure how you got PAL subs named as Replica, but maybe someone renamed them. Anyway, SubtitleCreator can change them to fit, if you really need to go from PAL to NTSC. Open the SRT subs, and go Synchronize->Convert Frame Rate->From 25 To 23.976 and Save. I think I'd make a backup copy of the original in case something goes wrong. And they may still not be synched perfectly when done. You may have to go Synchronize->Set Time Delay + - afterwards.

I shouldn't be discussing illegally downloaded warez, and you should have more sense than to mention the name of the release. I won't be able to provide any more help on this subject. Sorry, and good luck.

kingshay posted 2007 Jul 08 10:59

Is NTSC is 23.976? Not 29.97?

(i think that when i download the sub, they was on 23.976... It can be?)

kingshay posted 2007 Jul 08 12:45

OK, i converted the frame rate as you say and it changed, but there is still a problem...

i also think that subs is going faster then before, so the problem has increased...

kingshay posted 2007 Jul 08 18:37

please help!! :(

kingshay posted 2007 Jul 09 03:20

I didn't talk about any WAREZ, it was just a example.

kingshay posted 2007 Jul 09 18:32

please help! :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

xmidt posted 2007 Jul 11 15:55

Hi everyone.

Does anyone know a way of inserting subtitles in a multi-pgc movie where one of them is th rated version and the other one is the unrated. I searched the forum and i couldn't find a way of doing it.

btw both the version use only one VTS (the same) so there's only one VIDEO and AUDIO stream for each language

thanks

manono posted 2007 Jul 11 21:25

Hi-

That's a tough one. I think you'd be better off getting either one or the other, but not both, and adding subs to only the one. Otherwise, I think you'll have to add subs cell-by-cell, an almost impossible proposition. You can choose to get either the rated or the unrated version by decrypting using DVD Decrypter in IFO Mode. Either that or strip out one of the angles/ILVs if you already have the complete DVD on the hard drive.

I could be wrong, though, as I don't mess with seamless branching and always get the unrated or extended version when reencoding.

xmidt posted 2007 Jul 12 08:13

No sorry, i want to keep both version, i really need a tutorial if it's available.

acid_burn posted 2007 Jul 26 16:27

I followed al the steps properly but i can't get the subtitles synchronic wit the audio.

what i did> ripped original english subs from dvd> converted to srt> downloaded dutch subtitle (srt)> set timing dutch same as the ripped> author them on the dvd.

Before I submitted this post I tried it once again an now it's synchroon.
What i did was changing the framerate of the subs in subsync. Then i added the same timings like the ripped subs and compiled another DVD. :)

Thx TehMAtrix for your beautiful tutorial even after 3 years it's still useful

KneeGrow posted 2007 Aug 15 05:51

Edit:
"the new VTS has more PGC's than the original, no room. aborting"
After step 3d. I get this error!
Is this because your guide is about just one movie and my DVD is about 4 TV episodes.

Original:

Hi, your guide is somewhat clear up to step 3, where it is confusing.
I don't understand what to replace with what!?

Is the goal of step 3a and 3b, to have one map with the NEW vob files and the old other files?
Because that kinda makes sense.

When you say:
"move them (Cut and Paste) in the "Original DVD" folder overwriting ... etc"
do you mean:
REPLACE the old VOB's with the new VOB's?

a). Copy from the DVD-ROM in "Original DVD" folder all the files of the disc with DVD Decrypter in File Mode.

Copy where to?

In a situation where I have 4 TV episodes, that I want to burn to 1 DVD,
with your method, I end up with this in the FinalDVD map after step TWO:

Original DVD |||| Final DVD
____________ ||||
VIDEO_TS.BUP |||| VIDEO_TS.BUP
VIDEO_TS.IFO |||| VIDEO_TS.IFO
VIDEO_TS.VOB |||| VIDEO_TS.VOB
____________ ||||
VTS_01_0.BUP |||| VTS_01_1.VOB
VTS_01_0.IFO |||| VTS_01_2.VOB
VTS_01_1.VOB |||| VTS_01_3.VOB
VTS_01_2.VOB |||| VTS_01_4.VOB
____________ |||| VTS_01_5.VOB
VTS_02_0.BUP ||||
VTS_02_0.IFO ||||
VTS_02_1.VOB ||||
VTS_02_2.VOB ||||
______________________________ ||||
VTS_03_0.BUP ||||
VTS_03_0.IFO ||||
VTS_03_1.VOB ||||
VTS_03_2.VOB ||||
||||
VTS_04_0.BUP ||||
VTS_04_0.IFO ||||
VTS_04_1.VOB ||||
VTS_04_2.VOB ||||

Now, if I understand you correctly then I have to rename the VOB files in the FinalDVD map so that they have the same names as in the OriginalDVD map?
But that makes no sense because they ALREADY HAVE THE SAME NAMES
Even if I wanted to go from 1 movie to 1 movie (instead of, from 4 tv-episodes to 4 tv-episodes), they still would have the same name, so why do you stress the RENAMING???
I am totally confused.

So, I come back to my original question: What do I have rename, and what do I have to replace?

Could you give me a full example, with the before and after situation?

Also, wouldn't it be easier to replace the new IFO-files (VIDEO_TS.BUP VIDEO_TS.IFO VIDEO_TS.VOB VTS_01_0.BUP VTS_01_0.IFO) with the old ones in the FinalDVD map?
They cost lest disk space to back them up in case something goes wrong?

Sorry to be so longwinded.

K-G
also pm-ed

fgt25 posted 2007 Sep 04 22:02

Matrix.

I'm trying to add subtitles in a DVD with Bonus Material (Lord Of The Rings: The Two Towers - Platinum Series Special Extended Edition DVD).
I'm in trouble with this step of your guide:
"In this moment the software will automatically choose the main film in order to demux it." (DVD Decrypter)
This DVD has many others parts (in VTS_01 and others) to be worked.

Is there anything I can do to get a disc with the same structure of original DVD, only with all replaced subtitles?

Thaks for your attention and sorry about my english. :-)

manono posted 2007 Sep 05 00:27

fgt25 :

Is there anything I can do to get a disc with the same structure of original DVD, only with all replaced subtitles?

I don't know what the guide says. Open the DVD in DVDDecrypter set up for (the default) File Mode (and not IFO Mode, as shown in your pic), and decrypt the whole DVD to the hard drive. Then demux the movie alone from the other files using PGCDemux. Remux with Muxman (or however else the guide says to do it), replacing with, or adding in, your new subs. Then put the new DVD with your custom subtitles into the old original DVD using the "Replace" button of VobBlanker. That way you'll keep the menus and any extras on the original DVD, but also have the movie with the new custom subs.

fgt25 posted 2007 Sep 05 23:33

Hi, manono.

Thanks for your help.
I did make a test with VobBlanker and realize that will be able to make what I want. I put a translated subtitle in a litle PGC segment.
But the colour of this subtitle was changed.
I used the DVD Lab-Pro to rebuild the vob file. After this process the subtitle was white.
Then I used the VobBlanker to replace the specific cell of the PGC segment.
After that, I played the resulted movie. The subtitles was replaced but with brown colour.
You can say what I did wrong?

One more time, thaks for help me.

manono posted 2007 Sep 06 00:19

Hi-

You didn't do anything wrong.

If you're looking at the same pic of yours that I am, then you already know it's pretty useless, as you can't make out anything. But if I'm understanding you right, everything is good except for the color of the subs after being replaced in VobBlanker. And that's very easy to fix. I usually use PGCEdit for the job, but there's no guide, and it's a little bit hard to explain (open the finished DVD in PGCEdit, double-click the video in the left window, and change the colors in the CLUT (colored box) in the new screen, save and test).

So, because there's a very detailed guide available, I recommend you change the colors to the way you want them using DVDSubEdit:

http://download.videohelp.com/DVDSubEdit/Guides/ChangingColors/Guide.htm

It's a very useful free subtitle program that can do many things, so you'll want to get acquainted with it anyway.

EzE_str posted 2007 Sep 11 20:52

Hi TheMatrixx!! Your guide was very useful for me, thanks a lot. I `m from Argentina, forgive me for my english. I`ve followed your guide and at the last step.. (with all the anxiety) it failed. I`ll explain: I`ve copied the Final DVD movie files to the Original DVD folder, taking care at changing their names to correspond with the ones that had the movie in the Original one. Then, I open IfoUpdate and check every option that you showed. i choose correctly the "Original" and "Authored" ifo paths, I choose a "Backup path" and finally press the update IFO button. But the Update process is interrupted and shows a message: "ERROR: The original IFO`s PGC area is not large enough to hold the new PGC. ABORTING"
And I don`t know what to do at this situation. I tried again, but obtained the same result.
I have to tell you that I`ve made some changes to the guide: I did the Demuxing Step with VobEdit and I obtained the Chapters Info .txt document with the IfoEdit program (the Save Celltime to File option). I `d thank your help, cause your Guide was very useful and I want to complete it! Thanks again, EzE

EzE_str posted 2007 Sep 14 10:08

Ok, I `ve noticed that TheMatrixx isn`t supporting this guide anymore. Can anybody help me? please!! Tanks for advance

Harshadewa posted 2007 Dec 31 06:17

Is there any other soft that can use instead of DVD Decrypter.

Because my DVD is in my HD. Not in DVD.

Please help.

Harshadewa

manono posted 2007 Dec 31 08:08

Is there any other soft that can use instead of DVD Decrypter.

If you're asking if any other program can do the demuxing, then yes. PGCDemux can demux the video from the DVD on your hard drive.

Harshadewa posted 2007 Dec 31 08:14

thanks for the quick reply mate.

Cyrus1 posted 2008 Jan 04 16:37

why cant i import a sub, it only say unsupported file type, what im a doing wrong???

Chiririn posted 2008 Feb 06 16:51

I´m sorry if you have already answered my question, but 19 pages of questions are a lot to read.

What if the subtitles I have are only in .txt? They don´t even have the timing, I gotta do it myself. Can I follow this guide too?

Thanks!

PS: sorry for my english, i don´t have the time to practice anymore....

45tripp posted 2008 Feb 07 07:39

Chiririn :

What if the subtitles I have are only in .txt? They don´t even have the timing, I gotta do it myself. Can I follow this guide too?

Sure,
after you've spent your life timing subs to the subrib format (.srt),
preferably using the aid of subtitle workshop, or somthing similar,
you can then follow this guide

or this one:
http://forum.videohelp.com/topic338721.html

gl

AlanHK posted 2008 Feb 07 09:10

Chiririn :

What if the subtitles I have are only in .txt? They don´t even have the timing, I gotta do it myself. Can I follow this guide too?

Look at http://www.opensubtitles.org
They may have a timed set there.
If they don't have the language you want, you may find another language and be able sync yours with that, using Subtitle Workshop, for instance. See its help files for details.

Chiririn posted 2008 Feb 07 15:54

Thank you all for the answers, i´ll try to do that.

BritAngel posted 2008 Feb 14 00:28

First, thanks a lot for this guide, it really worked but i got a problem now, all my dvd is 7G size and i tried to compress it with clone dvd but doesn't keep its menu.

What can i do to compress all this 7G DVD to a 4G DVD?

Thanks in advance

fadigeo posted 2008 Feb 21 17:56

hi
I added my subtitle to the movie which is "The Darjeeling Limited" This movie Is consisted of two parts, and in the menu there's 3 options to play the movie:
1. is to play both parts together
2. is to play part one
3. is to play part two
after I did all the steps everything is ok except one things, when I play Part one only it's ok
and when I play part two also it's ok the subtitle i added appears in white as i chose, BUT the problem is that when I play option one"part one + part two" the part one subtitle appears in black and when the movie continued the part two then the subtitle returns to white.....SO what should I do, I want the whole subtitle to be white
thanks in advance

fpetit posted 2008 Mar 12 13:21

Ehh...There are a couple of things I don't get from this tutorial:

1)Does DVD Decrypt demux Audio, Video and subtitles?

2)When I try to put all these together again in DVD LAB PRO, DVD LAB ignores the subtitles, so I cannot preserve the original subtitles. I can ONLY add a new pair of subtitles that MUST be in TEXT format!!!

3)What is the subtitles format DVD LAB PRO generates with extension .SP1, SP2, etc ?. Are these bitmaps?

manono posted 2008 Mar 12 20:41

Hi,
1) No, not by default, and any subs it gives you when you do set it up to demux, will be unusable.
2) That's right. You can't use the original DVD subtitles, although I believe it does accept some image-based format, SON, maybe (I forget).
3) Someone else will have to answer as I don't use DLP Pro.

That guide is way out of date anyway. Try this one:

http://forum.videohelp.com/topic338721.html

I usually follow some variation of the second method.

mordor posted 2008 Mar 13 02:53

edit: I fixed this problem below by using VobBanker instead of IFOUpdate to update the IFOs, but after VobBlanker the subtitles turned green and i had to use IFOEdit to turn them back to yellow, but that was easy

I used the SubtitleCreator (with muxman, vobblanker) method a few times but i thought was more difficult to sync the subs, sometimes subs that were with perfect sync in DVDLab ended up out of syn with this other method, also i think dvdlab is much more faster

I only knew SUbtitleCreator guide to keep the original menu, so this is the first time i did with dvdlab.

Ok, everything seems to work fine on the PC, im using media player classic

The only thing is, in media player classic, when i start the movie from the menu it runs fine if i didnt touch the lenght marker. If i move it forward the program freezes, i have to use ctrl_alt+del to close it. But i CAN use the chapter selection and the movie starts fine from each chapter, but it still freezes if i touch the movie position marker.

And when i try to open it in DVDShrink theres an error with the first .vob and it doesnt even open.

I was about to burn it with Nero, but before i loose a dvd midia i would like to know if anyone have clue if it will work fine in the DVD Player ??

Oh and when you replace the original VOBs, are you supposed to replace the VIDEO_TS.VOB too ?? Cause DVDLab creates that one too

Thanks

black_devil posted 2008 May 01 17:55

but i had a proplem i have an ntsc dvd and after i do all the steps u sead i burn the dvd and it,s cool now the proplem is with the subtitle color it,s appers whit
and i did chous the color but it,s didnt apper as i wont it,s just apper as whit as snow all the subtitls can u help me bro

manono posted 2008 May 01 20:19

Fix the colors in DVDSubEdit or in PGCEdit. Here's a guide to using DVDSubEdit for the job:

http://download.videohelp.com/DVDSubEdit/Guides/ChangingColors/Guide.htm

You're in the US, it says. Is English not your first language? Because you write horribly. Maybe you should take some care to proofread what you write before posting. Or have someone that actually knows the language fix it before you post.

X_Splinter posted 2008 May 19 12:03

I need help please anwer my topic:

http://forum.videohelp.com/topic351103.html

flozig posted 2008 May 21 11:11

may be my dvd decrypter is a newer version than yours, but it doesnt featrure the same options. for instance, in the IFO mode of the general settings it also asks for removing structure protection. anyway, I only set the parameters the way you said and also with the other settings. At the end, I always get an almost never-ending list of messages saying 'failed to set data for" or 'failed to set data for DVDDecrypterPlayDVDMovieOnArrival'. Where's the mistake? Thanks in advance. :cry:

manono posted 2008 May 21 17:36

Where's the mistake?

Perhaps in using DVD Decrypter. That guide's obsolete anyway. Use DVDFab HD Decrypter, especially if you have a newer DVD with newer copy protection, and then follow this guide. I prefer the 2nd method:

http://forum.videohelp.com/topic338721.html

fairman posted 2008 May 30 10:07

I don't know if this has been answered before but please help me here:
Is there a way to put subtitles to a dvd with many different episodes, a tv series like Babylon 5, and thus several different subtitles to a different episode each and with the right timing.
I am trying to put greek subtitles to season 2 and 3 of B5 (original dvds with no greek subs).
Thank you!

Gio2k posted 2008 Jun 08 10:46

I have used for my dvdmux project a title NTSC: IfoEdit and IfoUpdate. :D :D :D :D
All correctly works, subtitles and inclusive menu. !!!

My suggestion is, you allow to lose DvdLad and other tools. They serve only to waste useless time. :idea:

Ciaooooooooooooooooo

Asi posted 2008 Jun 15 05:55

i folowed the guide, works perfect.. just a minor thing:

about the subtitles. In my language we have diacritics, and the subtitle i'm planning to use, have diacritics also, wich in subtitle worksop are viewed as they shoud (if i select east europe in this program). The problem is that in dvd-lab these fonts with diacritics are mashed and replaced with lots of squares, and other symbols.

(Note: in subtitle workshop i converted the .txt I had, and saved them as other formats - .sub, .srt, .sst, but none of this preservs the good aspect of the diacritics, and as far as i found out, dvd-lab cannot put .bmp subtitles, so i have to somehow arange this problem in dvd-lab, not outside of it, since dvd-lab is the culprit in this thingie)

How can i change in dvd-lab pro the encoding of the text subtitles? so that the subtitles are showed properly ?

I'm new to such problems, because only 3day's ago I bumped into vorbis format, and in these 3 days from the simple task to save image dvd's and large movies (in .mkv, .hd and other hi quality formats) to dvd5 (so i can play them with stand alone player), I now have a major headacke.. i installed lots of programs, lots of experiments demuxing, remuxing, converting from a mkv containers to vob's (that's another story), etc.
So i'm a bit overwhelmed but i'm a quick learner and somehow managed so far to multiplex a movie as it should, with subtitles/menus/etc..

now i try to find a way to show the corect subtitles(without squares and symbols), so please help!

(sorry for my english - not my everyday language)

black_devil posted 2008 Jun 16 11:31

hi i have a problem

after i finished the dvd edit i played it on a dvd video and it,s work but in the 30min it,s jumps to the last chapter
can any one help me

Note : My Dvd Is NTSC

k0udek posted 2008 Jul 20 17:50

Hi mates. The only problem that i'm having is this, when i found some DVD with An Unrated and Rated version and i do the authoring to add the subtitles, when i'm gonna see the unrated version i only get black subs :S i tried change the color and i only get black subs in the unrated version.. any ideas ? Hug.

rafael.soteldo posted 2008 Jul 21 02:45

Thank you for this complete guide.

I followed it exactly as you wrote it, and it worked just fine.

Congratulations, this guide is very straightforward, the other guides I found on the net were very cumbersome!

Rafael Soteldo

lolekongen posted 2008 Aug 13 13:29

Hi:-)

First of all, thanks for a very nice guide!

But i have one problem, how do you use Rejig to multiplex NTSC DVD's? Coud you make a picture or a small guide?

manono posted 2008 Aug 13 14:17

Don't use ReJig (or IFOEdit). Muxman is way better. This guide is more than 4 years old and parts of it are way out-of-date.

lolekongen posted 2008 Aug 17 03:11

Ok.

So how do i use Muxman?

manono posted 2008 Aug 17 07:14

This guide is for using DVDLab Pro anyway. Baldrick has some Muxman instructions listed in his guide (which is more up-to-date and doesn't rely on DVDLab Pro):

http://forum.videohelp.com/topic338721.html

m_tawfik15 posted 2008 Sep 23 15:00

Dear TheMatrixx,

First I want to thank you very much for your very useful guide.
I used your guide many times successfully to add subtitle in my language to DVD movies that do not have one and play it on my PC. Lately I faced a problem with one movie, I would be appreciated very much if you help me to solve it. My problem is as follows:-
A) I have a DVD image and mounted by the use of Daemon Tools, when I play this DVD it works fine
B) However when I tried to add my own subtitle flowing the your instruction (using DVD Decrypter and DVD-lab PRO step 1 & 2) I found that resulting video and audio got out of synchronization.
It worth saying that subtitle in the output DVD is perfectly synchronized to the sound, but both start earlier than the video.
Please find hereinafter DVD Lab Pro Verification Log.
I would be very appreciated if you can help to solve this problem.
Best regards,

** DVD Lab Pro Verification Log ***
9 - 23 - 2008 -- 20:47:54
Number of VTS - 1
Number of Menus: 1

Menu 01 - Type - Dummy

Number of imported VTS: 0

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* *
* VTS Verification *
* *
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<<< VTS Number 1 >>>
Number of Titles: 1

Title 01 - Type - ES or PES
Segment 1, Video File M:\DVD CD'S\The.Mummy.Tomb.of.the.Dragon.Emperor\1\VTS_01_1 - 0xE0 - Video - MPEG-2 - 720x480 (NTSC) - 16~9 - Pan-Scan & Letterboxed.M2V
Frame Size: 720 X 480
Frame Rate 4 [1--23.976, 2--24, 4--29.97, 3--25, 5--30]
Aspect Ratio: 169 [43--4:3, 169--16:9]
MPEG Video Type: 2 [1--MPEG 1, 2--MPEG 2]
Chroma: 1 [1--4:2:0, 2--4:2:2, 3--4:4:4]
GOP 1, size - 60970
GOP 2, size - 91130
GOP 3, size - 95431
Segment 1, Audio File M:\DVD CD'S\The.Mummy.Tomb.of.the.Dragon.Emperor\1\VTS_01_1 - 0x80 - Audio - AC3 - 2ch - 48kHz - 16bit - English - DELAY 0ms.AC3
Audio type: AC3_Mot, Channel: 2, Sampling: 48000, Bitrate: 256000
Segment 1, Subtitle File M:\DVD CD'S\The.Mummy.Tomb.of.the.Dragon.Emperor\1\ARA.sp1

Number of Menus: 1

Menu 01 - Type - Dummy

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* *
* Status Messages *
* *
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Start building Video Title Set ( VTS ) ... - 2001
Title - 1
Start building VOB streams - 2210
Muxing elementary streams is in process ... - 2220
Initializing audio packets ... - 3005
Initializing AC3 (MOT) audio packet ... - 3030
Verifying Closed Caption file is in process ... - 3750
Muxing is in process ... - 2300
Audio packetizing ends - 3025
Creating PGC for the title is in process ... - 2500
Creating dummy menu is in process ... - 2790
Building VTS IFO stream is in process ... - 2800
Start building Video Manager (VMG) ... - 2005
Creating dummy menu is in process ... - 2790
Creating still menu is in process ... - 2700
Start encoding bitmap ... - 2750
Reading bitmap is in process ... - 2740
[INFO] - No audio stream is provided - 3019
Encoding bitmap and building VOBU is in process ... - 2450
Building VMG IFO stream is in process ... - 2850

*** Post Verification ***

No error was found in the post verification process

Authoring is successfully completed - 3900

hanno1410 posted 2008 Oct 02 18:19

Hello, I have done everything until the end,
but in the last step with ifoupdate, it doesnt do it because it says:

WARNING: Source to destination mismatch
Original File has 38 Chapters
Newly authored File has 39 Chapters
Aborted. Original file restored.

I dont know exactly why. The only thing i've done different in the guide is not demuxing the existing subtitles on the dvd while ripping with DVDencrypter at the first step, because I wouldnt need them later on.

Thx for help if you have an idea

sideskroll posted 2008 Oct 28 05:45

Hi. I know this guide is a bit old. But it works great. Every time. I have a doubt though... This guide SUPOSSEDLY helps you create an exact replica of your original DVD. And to my understanding, that includes the original subtitles right? Well, i haven't been able to keep the original subtitles so far... And I was wondering if it is in fact possible or was just a typo... And if it is, could somebody please help me out? Where am I failing? Is it in the demuxing? remuxing? Replacing?
I think the problem is in the demuxing step, because matrixx doesn't especify if one should demux the subtitles or not... maybe hats what Im doing wrong. In any case, any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

mogune posted 2008 Nov 25 08:36

"ERROR: The original IFO`s PGC area is not large enough to hold the new PGC. ABORTING"

Reason:
Source and destination mismatch. Original file has XX chapters, newly authored file has YY chapters.

Means:
You have one or more chapters surplus comparing to original file.

Why:
Because the original file has two or more cells inside one chapter.

Example:

Consequence:
You get the annoying message that brought you here in the first place :
"ERROR: The original IFO`s PGC area is not large enough to hold the new PGC."

Solution:
Delete adequate number of chapters in authored file to get the equal number of chapters with the original file. (XX = YY)

Q: Which one?
A: You can probably delete any of them, as long as you maintain ratio equal . (XX = YY)
Or You can open the original VTS_0X_0.IFO in “IfoEdit” (see above example), and see which one has multiple cells inside one chapter and delete corresponding one while authoring new file.

mogune posted 2008 Nov 25 08:51

@ sideskroll

In the newly authored file you’ll have, ONLY, subtitles you imported during authoring in DVD Lab, regardless of demuxing them from the original file.

In a process of demuxing you’ll get *.sup files for subtitles that you can’t import in DVD Lab, so if you want to keep them in the newly authored file you’ll have to use SUB Rip on the original file and, through process of OCR recognition, acquire usable *.srt files that you can use with DVD Lab.

Libero016 posted 2008 Dec 13 16:08

Hi.. the tutorial is awesome.. thanks for this.. I managed to insert the subtitles I wanted.. It works perfectly..

But..
I wanted to ask if it is possible to insert the subtitles I want, without losing the original subtitles? Because, I'm inserting Croatian subtitles, but also want to keep the English ones.. And I only end up with Croatian subs in the end..

and also.. can someone help me with this? it happens when I'm inserting the subs using my laptop.. my local disk is (E: ) and I don't have a (C: ) at all.. where can i change this? so that the "temp" folder would be created in (E: ) not in (C: )?

Thnx

Zebigbos posted 2008 Dec 14 18:01

This guide looks real smart. Just replacing the VOBs.
I am using your guide, trying ULEAD DVD Workshop in stead of DVD lab.
Wondering if that works - can't see why not. I'll keep you posted..
Greetz

bloeper posted 2008 Dec 24 12:12

Hi,

First of all nice guide, it's quite enlightening although i have one problem...
When I am busy in DVD-lab Pro and i want to import the sub files ripped of the original dvd with DVD-Decrypter..
It says that it's an unsuported format..
How can i fix this? When i try to make it an another format the same error is thrown.

Greetings

manono posted 2008 Dec 24 13:56

Any subs gotten directly from DVD Decrypter are useless for anything. Get them another way.

bloeper posted 2008 Dec 25 06:41

@ Manono is there a way to get them from the dvd directly?
Because there are some subs in it for extra's etc. i know i can't get them from the internet...

Greetings.

manono posted 2008 Dec 25 09:27

Yes, VobSub Configure (included in the VobSub package) works on the VOBs on the disc. It's kind of slow when doing it that way, though. And it will give you subtitles in IDX/SUB format. You can't use those in DVD Lab Pro, so you'll have to convert them into a format it can use.

bloeper posted 2008 Dec 26 06:50

Well got the subtitles ripped.. But DVDLab Pro has an maximum of 8 subs in a movie :s
So i even can't place all the original subtitles in the movie :S
Is there a program that supports more subs?

manono posted 2008 Dec 26 08:00

Muxman can take up to the max 32 subs. No menus though, unless you buy the professional version, or whatever the payware version is called. Probably other authoring programs can take more than 8 as well.

hoseenkhader posted 2008 Dec 28 20:39

Realy good and clear.... :)

But can any one help me on this...

i have (prison break series) and (Lost) DVD-R and i want to add subtitle on the original dvds.... i think that the same steps here will not be correct for the series only for the movies :cry:

so can any one advise me what is the correct way to add the subtiltle to the DVD-R series :(

manono posted 2008 Dec 28 21:45

There's no practical difference between adding subs to a movie and to a series, except the series has more episodes, more subs, and more work involved. You might find Baldrick's guide more up-to-date. I recommend his method 2:

http://forum.videohelp.com/topic338721.html

hoseenkhader posted 2008 Dec 29 02:46

manono,

Thank you for your quick reply... i will try the method 2 as you recommend and i will revert if there is any problem

Thanks Again .... Hussain

hoseenkhader posted 2009 Feb 17 00:17

can any one help me please

i made 4 or 5 movie and all the steps are ok and the new movie ans subtiltles working fine

but yesterday i made 2 movies and both when i finish and play the dvds the new subtitle comes yello??

i am sure that i select the white color but when i play its come yello

any idea about this???

i am using DVD Lab pro

manono posted 2009 Feb 17 03:35

It's easier to just change the colors than to try and figure out where you went wrong. Here's a way to change the colors using DVDSubEdit:

http://download.videohelp.com/DVDSubEdit/Guides/ChangingColors/Guide.htm

hoseenkhader posted 2009 Feb 17 06:17

manono

thanks for ur reply ... but the subtiltle is in SRT format...

the program reject this format

what should i do...?

hoseenkhader posted 2009 Feb 17 11:29

manono,

i just try to burn the final dvd its ok and the subtitle is white and ok

But when i copy the files to the original dvd folder and update the IFO the subtitle become yellow

Sorry for wasting your time i tried more than 3 times

manono posted 2009 Feb 17 20:04

My suggestion to use DVDSubEdit on the subs, with a link to the guide, was for your final DVD, and not for the SRT file. You can't change colors in them anyway. To repeat; follow that guide to change the colors of the subs in your final DVD, the one with the yellow subs.

epikish posted 2009 May 30 22:41

Sorry, if this has been asked already... I was wondering how you mount Daemon tools? I don't get it

krrish posted 2009 Jun 11 16:27

After re-author the main movie by scenarist,the multi subs and multi audio works fine.
But when I try to merge it into other original DVD files and edit ifo with IFOUPDATE,then it shows me an error--
"The original ifo's PGC area is not large enough to hold the new PGC"
What's that mean?
I am going crazy cause I am stuck at last step and I don't know how to solve it!Please help me!!

:wink:

manono posted 2009 Jun 11 19:50

This guide is old and out-of-date, at least as far as replacing the remade DVD back into the original one goes. Use VobBlanker for the job and follow this guide beginning down at the (Optional) Add back the original menus part:

http://forum.videohelp.com/topic338721.html

If all you did was add in subs and/or audio, you didn't need the uselessly complex Scenarist. The much easier to use Muxman would have done the job just as well or better.

branch posted 2009 Sep 01 16:18

manono :

This guide is old and out-of-date, at least as far as replacing the remade DVD back into the original one goes.

It may be outdated, but its simpler and requires fewer programs.

manono posted 2009 Sep 01 21:32

branch :

It may be outdated, but its simpler and requires fewer programs.

Baloney. It requires a commercial program. It's a good program, sure, but it costs money and the job can be done just as well using all freeware. I also strongly disagree that the method as outlined in this guide is simpler. In any event, my comment was mainly about getting the remuxed DVD back into the original, keeping the menus. That requires only 1 program, and the more up-to-date program for this (VobBlanker) is easier and far simpler than that convoluted and obsolete IFOUpdate method. For the currently preferred way to do this, read up on the Method 2 as outlined in Baldrick's guide here:

http://forum.videohelp.com/topic338721.html

This is to take nothing away from TheMatrixx and the fine work he did. That was then and this is now and I'm sure he'd be the first to agree that his guide is way outdated now.

krrish posted 2009 Sep 04 10:14

guys help

prophet007 posted 2009 Sep 05 21:22

I have been having some trouble getting the subtitles to appear on the standalone players. I can play it on the computer, but on the TV. I have done all of the steps demuxing, adding subtitles, and updating IFO file. What am I missing? I am using dvd-lab pro and ifoupdate.

totito posted 2009 Nov 09 11:59

krrish :

guys help

I got the same problem everytime. I've tried everything but it keeps poping out that problem.
Any help guys?

And this one too:

ps: Im new, hello!

manono posted 2009 Nov 09 18:02

Ignore the 'warning' in your second picture. It's bad advice anyway.

As for the overlapping subs, that's bad news. The subs will work, but they'll look screwy and very unprofessional in the overlapped parts. If you created the subs yourself, then go back and get rid of the overlapped places. If you didn't, well, I can easily check such things using SubStation Alpha on SSA subtitles. If yours are SRT, I'm sure there are programs that can point out the overlapping, but I don't use any of them for that.

Anyway, that guide is way old and most people follow the methods in Baldrick's more up-to-date guide here:

http://forum.videohelp.com/topic338721.html

Maybe someone else can tell you how to get rid of the overlapping if you're using SRT subtitles. If they're really overlapped. It could just be the times between subs is less than a specified minimum in DVD Lab Pro, and they don't actually overlap. I don't know, as I don't use that program.

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