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Hacking Pioneer DVR-5100H (DVR-510H) | ||||
| Destroyer posted 2003 Dec 08 07:32 | ||||
| I just got my DVR-5100H
Before I hooked it up I had to check under the hood. To my surprise it was fitted with a standard DVD-Writer (Pioneer DVR-106) The Recorder only supports DVD-R/RW but the 106 supports both -/+ right? I guess I have to check if it's possible to write DVD+R/RW too. But maybe it's fitted with another firmware, or the 5100H itself has limitations in the software. I've tried to play DVD+R discs and it works without any problems. The manual doesn't mention anything about + playback. My current plans are hooking up the DVD Writer with my computer to check firmware version. Another interesting thing will be to test my NEC ND1300 with the recorder instead of the pioneer writer. The hard drive is a Western Digital 80Gb I don't have any bigger IDE drives lying around so I can't check the behavior when adding something else (yet). Anyone having more tech information of this recorder? I will post images of the interior if someone is interested. | ||||
| Destroyer posted 2003 Dec 08 10:28 | ||||
OK, Here are the photos (click to enlarge)
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| PhilipL posted 2003 Dec 08 11:37 | ||||
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| Destroyer posted 2003 Dec 08 13:10 | ||||
| Yeah, you're right, I won't get the extra edit features of +RW
but the possibility to write those discs as -RW would be nice. I bought 50 -R discs so I won't have to buy any new in the nearest future. But my previous DVD writers only supported +RW so I got some of these discs as well. Strange about the photos, I can se them without any trouble. Try these links: http://w1.828.telia.com/~u82806051/01b.JPG http://w1.828.telia.com/~u82806051/02b.JPG Continuing with the topic, here's some more info I gathered. It seems like software updates, including multi region hack, is done by inserting a firmware CD. A couple of new models are coming up: with larger HDD the most expensive model 710H got progressive scan output and a different video DAC. | ||||
| lewie49 posted 2003 Dec 08 13:15 | ||||
Destroyer, aside from the format issue, have you gotten enough of a look at your 5100 to make any judgemens on the picture quality of its play and record functions? I'm looking at the US equivalent (the new 510) and haven't seen any quality assessments yet. Doesn't the 5100/510 have progressive scan playback? Thanks. | ||||
| Destroyer posted 2003 Dec 08 13:28 | ||||
| What I've seen so far from the few recordings I've made using a digital satellite receiver as source, is that the quality is excellent, at least in the FINE mode (1h on a single DVD, 17h on the HDD). I can't tell the difference between the broadcast and the recorded material. This is very difficult in the SP mode as well (32h on HDD and 2h on a DVD). When using the EP mode that will fit 6h on a DVD and 102h on the HDD the quality is bad, much like a third hand VHS copy.
These settings could be done manually in 32 steps so there are quite many possibilities. I'm using a video projector (Philips bSure2) which might make the LP mode looks even worse than on a ordenary TV. | ||||
| Destroyer posted 2003 Dec 08 13:36 | ||||
The 5100 doesn't but it seems like the 510 has. The 510 however seems to lack the DV out. | ||||
| lewie49 posted 2003 Dec 08 14:02 | ||||
From some of the spec sheets: "PureCinema™ de-interlacer with 3-2 pulldown processing" and I believe its firewire port is input/output. | ||||
| donpedro posted 2003 Dec 08 15:19 | ||||
In my case answer would be : "Because I have about 20 DVD+RW discs and only 2 DVD-RW, already." ;-) | ||||
| PhilipL posted 2003 Dec 09 12:22 | ||||
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| Destroyer posted 2003 Dec 10 07:08 | ||||
| Just made a quick check switching the DVR-106 to a NEC ND1300A
it didn't work. I wasn't able to connect it to a TV so I'm not sure if there were some error messages displayed. I haven't checked the DVR-106 in a computer yet. Would be interesting to see the firmware version. Pioneer claims that when flashing the PVR-106 no downgrade can be done. So I wouldn't dare to try flashing it with a RPC1 firmware to check if the region lock disappears. What if the 5100 don't recognize it afterwards. :cry: Anyone with a PVR-106 in their computer? | ||||
| deepdown posted 2003 Dec 10 09:46 | ||||
| Wow - this is great stuff!
Thanks Destroyer for providing pictures! I have already ordered myself one DVR-5100HS. (thats what is says on the webpage..) Really looking forward to checking out this too.. You guys really helping out - I also want to beat this machine.. escpecially if we can remove the macro vision :) btw; I read that the DVR-5100HS has progressive scan, BUT only in NTSC mode. | ||||
| PhilipL posted 2003 Dec 10 11:14 | ||||
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| Destroyer posted 2003 Dec 10 13:22 | ||||
| Here's another photo from when I removed the HDD.
(Click to enlarge)  | ||||
| deepdown posted 2003 Dec 10 13:53 | ||||
| Nice pics, dude! 8)
Please, post more! I recon you already have selected "macro" on you camera, to take close-up shoots. When we find soldering info, these pics will be good to follow. Just need some arrows on the diagrams :lol: | ||||
| mister_loverlover posted 2003 Dec 16 08:00 | ||||
| The pioneer 5100 is a fabulous machine let down only by it's failure to support RGB input.
Can anybody see if there is a way it can conceivably be made to support RGB input? | ||||
| PhilipL posted 2003 Dec 16 11:31 | ||||
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| PhilipL posted 2003 Dec 16 12:10 | ||||
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| javierol posted 2003 Dec 17 00:03 | ||||
| Hello,
Could anybody please tell me if the US version (510H) allows for NTSC/PAL. I have lots of PAL tapes that I would like to transfer to DVD-R. Also does the machine record audio in LPCM format? I hat Dolby Digital. One more thing. If I record a concert video, can I add chapter points wherever I need to for each song? I believe the PANASONIC E100 allows for this kind of editing but will always add a chapter point if a songs is over 5 minutes long. Thanks a lot Javier | ||||
| kzod posted 2003 Dec 19 16:15 | ||||
| Is it possible to hack the 5100 so that I can record video that it claims is copy protected? I have a DVD player that I can play through the 5100 with no evidence of picture distortion, however, it won't let me record the signal :(
Any fixes? | ||||
| donpedro posted 2003 Dec 19 19:00 | ||||
| Fix your player... not recorder ;-) It is cheaper when you f..k it. | ||||
| kzod posted 2003 Dec 19 20:04 | ||||
So, you're saying it can't be done? | ||||
| donpedro posted 2003 Dec 19 21:06 | ||||
Everything can be done. It is all matter of time and money :lol: So far I didn't see any hack on any DVD Recorder. I guess they are too expensive to "play" with them :P On the other side... I saw a lot of DVD Players hacked, enabled and all that stuf... | ||||
| kzod posted 2003 Dec 20 10:10 | ||||
| I think my player is hacked at the factory. I ca play it and watch through the DVD recorder with no macrovision effects. But somehow the DVD recorder knows that it's copy protected. Are there any work-arounds? I'm already a couple days late returning my DVD and still haven't watched it! I need a back-up! | ||||
| donpedro posted 2003 Dec 20 11:34 | ||||
Macrovision doesn't do anything when you are watching. Only when you record. For example to VCR. In DVD world there is one more copy protection. Try to read or search this forum. It was dicussed here couple of times. | ||||
| rhegedus posted 2003 Dec 20 14:55 | ||||
| Fantastic post!
I'm not sure if I'd have the guts to open it up the day I bought it :oops: Two questions: Have you tried to link the Pioneer to PC using firewire? Can you transfer files this way instead of burning and ripping? Is the HD a standard one or is it formatted in a different way to PC HDs. I'm as curious as you are to see if the 80Gb HD could be replaced by a 250Gb monster! Once again, great post! | ||||
| donpedro posted 2003 Dec 20 15:00 | ||||
Based on what I know. NO. It does VIDEO signal transfer only. | ||||
| rhegedus posted 2003 Dec 20 15:33 | ||||
:bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry: So it's only good for video input? | ||||
| donpedro posted 2003 Dec 20 15:51 | ||||
| That is why it is called DVD Recorder :idea: | ||||
| rhegedus posted 2003 Dec 20 17:34 | ||||
| Ha! Ha! Ha!
Just thought I could cut out the burn and rip steps and transfer straight to PC. Not that foolish an idea, is it? | ||||
| rhegedus posted 2003 Dec 25 06:29 | ||||
| Just an afterthough, if anyone is still watching this thread, how many tuners does it have - i.e. is it possible to record from two sources at the same time? | ||||
| kzod posted 2003 Dec 25 19:46 | ||||
| One tuner. | ||||
| GaMeR64 posted 2004 Jan 04 12:35 | ||||
| Hey all, nice to see people are trying to do something with this machine. I am also planning on buying 2 of these machines (one for me, one for my dad). I wondered if anyone already tried to put in a bigger HArddisc in this machine instead of the 80 GB. Is the OS the 5100HS uses on the harddrive or is it on the main hardware. Or would it be possible to make a Ghost image off the HD and put it on a new bigger HD. | ||||
| rhegedus posted 2004 Jan 04 13:26 | ||||
Don't know if it applies the Pioneer, but I've read articles about upgrading SKY+ boxes:
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| ceder posted 2004 Jan 17 01:32 | ||||
| Can somebody recomend a brand of DVD-RW media for
this recorder? (just bought the recorder) | ||||
| recorders4u posted 2004 Jan 29 07:04 | ||||
| Hi All
One of my users, in a Danish language only forum, tried to replace the harddrive in his DVR-5100H. But with no luck so far. The original disk fitted are a Western Digital 80GB 5400rpm: 
He tried with a Seagate Barracuda IV 120GB 7200rpm. The unit spins up the disk, but then says "HDD ERR" in the display. Onscreen its said something like "Invalid HDD Info". From my point of view, it looks like the unit is shipped from Pioneer with data about the harddrive fitted and doesn't allow harddrives with other data to be inserted. /Lars | ||||
| mike1061 posted 2004 Jan 31 16:23 | ||||
| Maybe you have to replace the HD with one of the same model.
I did a google search for "western digital wd800lb" and found some. Thanks Mike. | ||||
| donpedro posted 2004 Jan 31 16:51 | ||||
| Don't they use some special formating ??? | ||||
| cybertof posted 2004 Feb 02 09:29 | ||||
| Hi !
Has anyone tested the following : Cloning the partition from the original WD hd to another hd, and then replace the hd with the new one ? (still cable-select pins) Maybe the 'bad hd info' meens that somewhere on some sectors, some info about the hd are expected and were not found. Maybe a sector editor would help finding the sector/offset the info is written. The problem would be to find this info and then decode it (which info, which meaning, etc....) Cybertof. | ||||
| launter posted 2004 Feb 03 10:22 | ||||
| Hello, everyone bought one of these myself. Thought about opening it up myself but was a bit nervous after spending £600. Was encouraged by the first post. So I did so a few days ago
I have also been interested in the above ideas Initially I wanted to make it region free. I attached the pioneer dvd recorder to my laptop via USB conversion cable and got the following info from the drive info program DISCINFO VERSION : 1.5.5.9 VENDOR : PIONEER MODEL : DVD-RW DVR-106X REVISION : 1.03 VENDOR SPECIFIC : 03/09/26 PIONEER LOADING MECHANISM : Tray SERIAL NUMBER : Removed for -privacy NUMBER VOL. LEVELS : 256 BUFFER SIZE : 2000KB INTERFACE : ATAPI RPC2 SCHEME : YES STATUS : Set USER CHANGES : 4 VENDOR CHANGES : 4 CURRENT REGION : 2 ANALOG AUDIO PLAY : YES COMPOSITE OUTPUT : NO DIGITAL PORT-PORT1 : NO DIGITAL PORT-PORT2 : NO READ UPC CODE : YES MULTISESSION READ : YES MODE 2 FORM 1 : YES MODE 2 FORM 2 : YES READ ISRC CODE : YES READ BAD CODE : NO BUFFER UNDER-RUN : YES MT. RAINIER : NO CAN READ CDR : YES CAN READ CDRW : YES CAN READ CDRM2 : YES CAN WRITE CDR : YES CAN WRITE CDRW : YES CAN TEST WRITE : YES CAN READ DVD-ROM : YES CAN READ DVD-R : YES CAN READ DVD-RW : YES CAN READ DVD-RAM : NO CAN READ DVD+R : NO CAN READ DVD+RW : NO CAN WRITE DVD-R : YES CAN WRITE DVD-RW : YES CAN WRITE DVD-RAM : NO CAN WRITE DVD+R : NO CAN WRITE DVD+RW : NO MAX CDR READ SPEED : 15 MAX CDR WRITE SPEED: 7 Its interesting it says NO to reading DVD+ discs, as we all know it does so <- -> Basically I was hoping to save the firmware so that I could upload to anyone that was interested in making it region free. Even purchased a pioneer DVR-106 to see if that would work. In the meantime however I have solved the problem by purchasing a pioneer cd which makes it region free without any effort. Only cost £13 rather than the £100 most companies seem to want to charge. I wonder if its possible to manipulate the firmware so that it records to DVD+ since the drive is capable, I have so many spare + discs it would be useful. They also seem to be more compatible with my other dvd players. Would like to do as others have suggested and replace the disk with a larger one. Has anyone connected it up to a PC yet and examined the contents and format type. We need a definitve test don't we with the same type of drive, with the same spec except for the size. Anyone game ? I'm sure someone must be able to solve the problem | ||||
| rhegedus posted 2004 Feb 03 11:21 | ||||
| Out of curiosity, where did you buy yours from? I bought mine from www.superfi.co.uk for £600 multiregion. | ||||
| launter posted 2004 Feb 03 12:05 | ||||
| Didn't really do enough research at the start to go outright and buy a multiregion one. Bought mine from http://www.svcdirect.co.uk/svcdirect/ for £585. | ||||
| PhilipL posted 2004 Feb 03 12:28 | ||||
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| rhegedus posted 2004 Feb 03 13:32 | ||||
| I get the same sort of stuff when I connect my Philips DVD player to the TV with cheap component cables.
Splashed out on some gold scart leads for the Pioneer and the picture is brilliant :D | ||||
| PhilipL posted 2004 Feb 03 13:53 | ||||
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| rhegedus posted 2004 Feb 03 16:20 | ||||
| Can't really say I notice a difference between live and recorded.
Here's my set-up. NTL cable box--->SCART--->Pioneer--->TV There's no direct lead from the cable box to the TV - the only other inputs to the TV are from another DVD player and an RF aerial (via the Pioneer). | ||||
| PhilipL posted 2004 Feb 04 11:22 | ||||
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| PhilipL posted 2004 Feb 04 16:55 | ||||
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| PhilipL posted 2004 Feb 05 12:13 | ||||
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| smearbrick1 posted 2004 Feb 05 13:55 | ||||
| Did anyone try hooking up the 80gb harddrive from the dvd recorder on their pc to see if it could be read?
Is it possible that the harddrive could be locked and have a motherboard key? (such as with xbox) | ||||
| launter posted 2004 Feb 05 14:41 | ||||
| Going to have a go after the weekend when my new western digial 200GB harddrive comes. I have a USB ide conversion cable and will be taking a look at the harddisc | ||||
| PhilipL posted 2004 Feb 07 08:01 | ||||
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| launter posted 2004 Feb 07 13:27 | ||||
| Heres the relevant bit from that subject page. Quote from deepdown
"I have heard from the Pioneer team that the player: ..has a unique code which it detects the HDD, so by removing the HDD and trying a bigger HDD the dvd-recorder LOCKS UP, you have to insert a "reset CD (?)" to unlock the player. That also is the same with the dvd-recorder which is inside. (correct me if i'm wrong) " Hi, thanks for the interesting reply. I have a cd which I bought for the purpose of making my recorder region free. This resets the recorder back to factory settings. I wonder if it will work for new hard disc ? I suppose I'm going to try. Its worked for the region. Feel a bit nervous, I suppose theres not much that can go wrong ?Still waiting for the hard disc to come | ||||
| PhilipL posted 2004 Feb 07 16:23 | ||||
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| rhegedus posted 2004 Feb 07 16:35 | ||||
| I thought I'd want to swap HDs to but then once I started using the Pioneer I realised that even with the best settings you can still get 17 hours of video. More than enough when you consider that you can burn one hour segments at high speed to DVD and then edit then on PC.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it! | ||||
| launter posted 2004 Feb 07 17:21 | ||||
| Here are the electrical specs for the 2 drives
for the 200gb http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p ... 1037288845 for the 80gb http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p ... 1037284274 they don't seem too different. The only time the lager disc seems to draw more power is on spin-up. What do you think, I'm no electrical whiz. To start off with I'll use an external supply though. As for the 48-bit LBA addressing, is that not the standard nowadays, is there any reason pioneer would use say a 28-bit LBA address (correct me if I'm talking rubbish here). Why use an older technology when it wouldn't nessarily be easier ? Any advice would be appreciated before I go out and trash my machine ? | ||||
| PhilipL posted 2004 Feb 08 03:20 | ||||
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| rhegedus posted 2004 Feb 08 03:27 | ||||
| Out of curiosity.............
The mantra that gets repeated to anyone who is capturing to HD using a PC capture card is that the HD must be defragmented. Yet, I've failed to find any set-up screen that would allow this to be done on the Pioneer. Maybe if there is such a 'maintenance' screen, it would also hae other HD utilities like 're-format' - there is such a thing on SKY+ boxes, so is there one on the Pioneer? | ||||
| PhilipL posted 2004 Feb 08 06:53 | ||||
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| launter posted 2004 Feb 08 17:42 | ||||
| :D Well I'm going to have a go so you can tell me I told you so if my recorder breaks. I don't see why it would do and I'm sure reinserting the original drive would rectify any problem.
Also I'm sure you could comprehend :idea: that pioneer could overlook or at least not bother too much about people hacking the recorder. If it works I doubt it will have a significant impact on sales. It has happened to hard disk recorders in the past and also many other devices such as the Playstation or the Xbox. In fact most devices that have been backed by a suffcient incentive have been hacked in some form or another. | ||||
| rhegedus posted 2004 Feb 08 17:44 | ||||
| ...fingers crossed... | ||||
| Varta posted 2004 Feb 11 13:38 | ||||
| Unfortunately I can confirm Philips findings concerning the problems with composite/PAL.
I can see flickering coloured borders around sharp edges when using the Pioneers tuner, which are absent when using the tuner of my Sony TV (which has analogue-only circuity for the video signal). Initially I had the impression that the Pioneer tuner was superior to that of my Sony TV because the Pioneer tuner showed less noise, not noticing the coloured borders and also not noticing that the noise removal was traded in for loss of detail. Toggeling DNR has no effect on my unit also, so I suspect this is a regular "property" of the Pioneer. To the good I may say that I didn't notice the composite/PAL processing problem unil pointed out by Philip. In normal film scenes it is almost not apparent, at least not on my old Sony TV. | ||||
| launter posted 2004 Feb 12 14:14 | ||||
| :evil: Hi, well I suppose unsurprisingly things didn't go too well. I still think its feasible though.
Basically I tried the new 200GB western digital hard drive. Got the same message as someone else has mentioned ie. error invalid hard drive info.Tried resetting factory settings with the disc I've got, still no joy. The good news is it was no problem putting the machine back together and its working fine again. Also tried to have a look at the hard disc. First of all it wasn't recognised as a usuable drive by windows. I suppose thats no surprise. I used partition magic 8 to see what it said about the drive. It recognized the drive was there but marked it as BAD. I presume therefore the file sytem method is not a standard recognised by windows xp ? Might try with paragon drive back up which claims it can duplicate unknown files sytems and theres a free 30 day trial. Not that knowledgable about this sort of thing. Can anyone offer any useful suggestions ? | ||||
| launter posted 2004 Feb 15 13:16 | ||||
| Hello all (well anyone whos interested)
Had a go with paragon hard disk manager. Unfortunately didn't even specify the drive as "unknown" file system. Just said invalid. Anyone know how to get around this. Thought about using winhex to form an iso but I felt a little frightened in case it wrote to the disc and stopped it working Heard from someone else whos managed to get hold of a sevice manual that a service remote is probably going to be required. Hmm ! Doesn't sound like this is going to be easy | ||||
| PhilipL posted 2004 Feb 15 14:13 | ||||
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| mike1061 posted 2004 Feb 15 21:57 | ||||
| PhilipL Wrote
Hello all (well anyone whos interested) I am very intrested, please keep us or at least me posted as to how things go. I just don't have any thing to add. Thanks Mike. | ||||
| launter posted 2004 Feb 16 13:07 | ||||
| Thanks for the info Philip
More stuff on the subject As far as HDD capacity is concerned the DVR 5100 is delivered with 3 different HDDs all of size 80 GB, but who knows installing a larger one might be worth a try. The snag is the procedure itself. You need to input a so-called CPRM ID No. which requires the additional service remote GGF1381 (I've only found one internet reference to this remote, and that from somebody else who was looking for it too!). I'm sure a Pioneer service centre would have such a device but .... not really in their interests to lend you such a thing. A fellow enthusiasist is emailing the service manual. I'll post again if I get any information on programming a third party remote to function as a service remote PS if anyone is interested in the cd.iso of the pioneer disc which I have then notify me,its compressed to about 60mb . I have it somewhere on the web | ||||
| launter posted 2004 Feb 18 13:33 | ||||
| :shock: Progress seems to have halted for a while as it seems to be pretty difficult. Am going to await the arrival of the manual which may take a week . | ||||
| rhegedus posted 2004 Feb 18 13:46 | ||||
| The pdf is on the Pioneer site. | ||||
| launter posted 2004 Feb 18 14:00 | ||||
| As far as I remember its just the commercial manual not the service manual which is on the pioneer site ? | ||||
| rhegedus posted 2004 Feb 18 14:31 | ||||
| It's about 102 pages - I think I got the link from one of Donpedro's posts here, but deleted it as soon as I got mine. | ||||
| rhegedus posted 2004 Feb 18 14:34 | ||||
| Here it is:
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/product/manual/0,,2076_4279,00.html | ||||
| launter posted 2004 Feb 18 16:32 | ||||
| Thanks for the download. Can't be sure but I still don't think this is the manual that someone is sending me. The manual I am being sent is more orientated towards servicing the recorder. I could be wrong but the parts I've been emailed so far don't correspond to this manual i've just downloaded. I'll emal it later on when i get a paper copy | ||||
| donpedro posted 2004 Feb 18 16:55 | ||||
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| launter posted 2004 Feb 18 17:11 | ||||
| Well I don't know how the guy got it but he seems to have done. I'm having a photocopy done I think mailed from Europe. It may take a few days but I'll keep you informed | ||||
| rhegedus posted 2004 Feb 18 17:15 | ||||
| And you'll be scanning and distributing it accordingly, won't you? :wink: | ||||
| launter posted 2004 Feb 19 07:36 | ||||
| The more of us on the case the better | ||||
| Franklin posted 2004 Feb 22 06:53 | ||||
Great, launter, I think same as you. Hope you can use your 200GB western digital hard drive. My great concern till now is how to record the date and time from my DV cam (like the Philips DVR75 does). The manual says it's not possible... Any ideas? Regards Franklin | ||||
| dntaylor posted 2004 Feb 22 13:21 | ||||
Keep the great work up launter you will get there in the end. There is a lot of intrest for everbody who has a 5100 to crack this, I'm sure somebody has the answer out there. | ||||
| launter posted 2004 Apr 04 09:48 | ||||
| Hello, long time no see. Well I have a lot on at work and unfortunately no time to devote to the project anymore. I did however receive the service manual today. However I am not willing to spend the time scanning it in. Anyone interested contact me but it would have to be a long time member of the forum as many just want the goods without wanting to put anything into the project. As for putting a new hard disc in, the service manual says that after you have replaced it and you receive the hard drive error you need to go to the disc setup menu where an option appears to initialise the new hard disc. Whether this would work with a bigger hard disc I don't know
cheers | ||||
| rhegedus posted 2004 Apr 04 13:26 | ||||
By happy coincidence, I've just bought a 200Gb WD drive from PC World - on offer at £109. Hmmmmm....... what to do next? | ||||
| Zpookey posted 2004 Apr 07 15:54 | ||||
Anyone tried to just initialize the new disc in the "home-menu-->Disc Setup-->Initialize HDD"? It's an option that usually not are there but if something should happen to the filesystem the option is visible. Try it and let me know....i wan't a bigger disc too :) | ||||
| partsguyforlife posted 2004 Jun 16 14:58 | ||||
| Hey, if you need the GGF1381 remote. there is someplace around that actually sells it.
I found it right here: http://www.partsolver.com/Product.asp?InventoryID=13020185&Su ... fg=Pioneer hope that helps out. | ||||
| Board Room posted 2004 Jun 25 03:27 | ||||
Ive used Verbatim, TDK, Infiniti and Zero-Defex and all work 100%. The Zero-Defex are the cheapest discs I've tried @ 90p each. The only disc problem I ever had was with a silver unlabelled disc referred to by the supplier as "Clone Disc". I dont know if thats the brand name or just a generic term. Anyway I lost one of the chapters after editing it. I couldnt read it and thought I'd lost it forever. I then tried the disc a few days later and there was the "lost" chapter back again. Ive not had a problem with any other disc. However I'll be avoiding "Clone Disc". HTH B R | ||||
| jerry62 posted 2004 Oct 26 07:30 | ||||
| Has there been any update on someone attempting to initialize a larger hard drive in the Pioneer 5100 (510) ? This thread seems to have been just left behind... | ||||
| rhegedus posted 2004 Oct 26 11:39 | ||||
| I didn't try in the end - 17 hours at max quality is more than enough for me. | ||||
| anzimike posted 2004 Oct 26 12:14 | ||||
| FYI. There are two types of copy protection on dvd and recently produced commercial vhs, macrovsion and CGMS/A. Macrovsion is easy to defeat with cheap black boxes like sima to record to vhs. CGMS is responsible for the "cannot copy" messages when trying to record to dvd and is a bit more difficult to defeat. External TBC will defeat it (eg datavideo TBC-1000) or some hacked players available on e-bay. I haven't looked in several months but there have been apex units hacked to defeat both macrovsion and CGMS. (Make sure this is specified in the description before bidding) BTW, I am very happy with record quality of dvdr-7000 and am holding out for dl record capability before purchasing another dvd recorder. Also I believe it records audio in pcm in highest quality setting, 1 hour mode | ||||
| nixie posted 2004 Oct 26 12:21 | ||||
| CGMS is fairly easy to defeat, although not all correctors do it. All one has to do is clear the bits on video line 20. I've done is on an old Sima corrector that only cleared Macro but not CGMS. It's fairly easy to do electronic-wise. Most TBCs clear CGMS because they clear all the info on all the video lines during vertical retrace. | ||||
| m3 posted 2005 Oct 10 06:53 | ||||
| I notice also this topic has been left behind, but hopefully someone can answer this ...
Is it possible to fit a hard disk (of any size - 80GB or more) into the Pioneer 3100 (or in US the 310) [the copy of the 5100 which didn't have the HD installed]? Do the right cables/connections exist within the 3100 to allow an HDD to be fitted ? | ||||
| rhegedus posted 2005 Oct 10 11:48 | ||||
| I doubt it very much. | ||||
| canadateck posted 2005 Oct 10 12:43 | ||||
| They did somthing like this with (Sampo DVD Players), But I doubt it would work on a Pioneer.
Google Sampo. | ||||
| blinky88 posted 2005 Oct 16 08:31 | ||||
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| kanipek posted 2006 Feb 15 12:34 | ||||
| :) I justed wanted to share some current information with everyone. I recently upgraded my Pioneer DVR-510 to a 400GB HD. I used the informational steps found here and in the 520 thread with the Pioneer Sevice DVD and service remote. Took all of 10 minutes to do and I now am getting 171+ HRs in SP mode.
I used a Seagate 400GB IDE drive - 16MB cache and 7200 RPM's. I would be happy to share any further details that I am leaving out here just PM me and I'll get back to you. So using 300GB+ HD is possible. All of you guys ROCK....keep up the good info! | ||||
| dman_warlamas posted 2006 Apr 06 12:09 | ||||
| Help! Been lurking around this forum since the vcdhelpdotcom days, but had to re-register to post this? :?
Anyway, the DVR-106-XA drive in my DVR-510HS has apparently died. :evil: It won't read any blank dvd-r's or play a commercial dvd title. Pioneer wants $304.80 for a replacement drive. :shock: I've been scouring around the board and found that it can be replaced with another drive, but haven't seen instructions for doing this. Also, I read that it can't be upgraded, but what do I do if I can't find a DVR-106-XA drive? I've seen pics of this model with a DVR-107-XA? and a DVR-R09-XP (possibly a 533 model) Can the unit be fooled to let me use a retail/oem 106/107/109/110/111 drive? Or can a I buy a cheaper 310/320/420 recorder without a HDD and use it's DVR drive? If so how do I do it (in 15mins)? Keep it simple please. Thanks for all the gr8 info and hard work represented in this site!!! | ||||
| kanipek posted 2006 Apr 06 17:29 | ||||
| These are my findings:
I have the DVR-510HS and I have replaced out of curiosity my DVR-106XA with a DVR-109. It works just fine, but sadly my DVR-510HS will still not support any Dual Layer recordable media. For EVERTHING else it works fine. I had recently upgraded my HD to a 400GB disc, so I had the service remote and the Pioneer Service DVD. I simply followed the same procedures for replacing the HD and it worked great. Took all of 15 minutes to do it. These are the procedures I used: 1. Change HD 2. Power ON 3. Confirmation of the CPRM ID No. as follows: Press ESC then STEREO, take a note of the 9 digit number, you will need it later (same No. is on the back of recorder), Exit this mode by pressing CLEAR. 4. Deletion of the CPRM ID No.: Press ESC then STEREO; input the same number as the ID number (using the number keys) and press STOP. (this happens on the LED display). 5. Input of the CPRM ID No. and ID data: Press ESC then STEREO, input 9-digit ID number then press SEARCH to register ID. (again, this is on the LED display). 6. After this recorder's display indicates "INSERT ID", 7. Open the disc tray with recorder's OPEN/CLOSE button and insert ID disc (Pioneer Service DVD). 8 .With recorder's OPEN/CLOSE button close the disc tray. After recorders display indicates "ID DATA OK" press CLEAR button. 9. After step 8 power down using the ON/OFF button on the unit. Then power up, go to recorder's menu and initialize disc. I took the "ornamental" front off the original drive and used it to replace the front that comes standard on a DVR-109. I priced a standard 106 drive and they are upwards of $130, new DVR-111 can be had for around $40. If you have any questions just PM me. | ||||
| dman_warlamas posted 2006 Apr 19 21:15 | ||||
| Arrghhh...
OK, I bought a new Pioneer 111D drive to replace my faulty 106XA, but the new drive doesn't have a SPDIF connector!!! So, I looked at the other Pioneer drives on Newegg and they don't have a one either. Do you guys (& dolls) think I need this if I'm only using the drive to record and not play back? Thanks for ur time! D-man[WarLlamas] dvr-111d%20rear2.jpg | ||||
| dman_warlamas posted 2006 Apr 22 02:40 | ||||
| OK - Fixed the DVDR in 5 mins, but the HDD is seeing stars!!!
Got a remote and a service disc today (Thanks **). I fixed 1/2 my 510 in 5mins using the info from this thread. I had to use the 106XA drive from my 210, because the 111D drive doesn't work in either unit. Display says 'OPEN' when I power it up and the drive sounds like it's trying to spin up or close but never does. (May be a bad drive?) Also, I still have the HDD ERROR msg on the 510. What's the 'COMPARE' >********* line in the service menu? Seems like the unit lost its HDD info? Does the unit thinks it's ID is ********* instead of 0004.....? See Pic. So, here's the scary question. If I re-enter the HDD ID info do you think I'll have to initialize (format) the drive? And since it's full of shows waiting to be archived because of the bad dvdr, that would be a disaster! Any advice? Thanks, D-man[WarLlamas] id_info_censored.jpg | ||||
| kanipek posted 2006 Apr 22 07:31 | ||||
| Try reversing the cable on the 111D, sounds like it was on backwards. Which you shouldn't be able to do.......but it DOES happen.
When I was doing the experimenting on the 510 I have, I did the HDD swap several times. Including back to the original. After installing the original disc and inputting the CPRM everything was still there as far as recordings go. I had taken the precaution of transferring everything to my Media Center computer ahead of time. As I said I was experimenting - lots of conflicting info here and other places. I think reinputing the CPRM will solve your problem. When I did these experiments I did not have to re-initialize the original drive. I THINK this occurs only when a blank drive is used, at least that is the way it appears to me. Kind of strange about the HDD error occuring after replacing the burner though. Let us know what happens. | ||||
| Robbins1940 posted 2006 Apr 22 08:23 | ||||
| Is there anything cheaper than a Philips Pronto remote to upgrade the HD in my Pioneer DVD recorder? Don't want to spend £150 to £300 on a remote I will only use maybes once. | ||||
| dman_warlamas posted 2006 Apr 24 13:08 | ||||
| Update: My 510HS is back up and running! Thanks 'Ed', 'Kanipek', and the nameless others.
The HDD ERR was a bit of a mystery to me too. Apparently it was because I was a bit of a chicken with the DVDr replacement process. I unhooked the power to the HDD to be safe while screwing with stuff that I'm not supposed to screw with. :roll: So when I hooked the HDD back up the machine thought it had a ID of "*********". All I did was reset the ID info again (with the drive powered up) and it's all happy again. However, my new Pioneer 111D drive does not work in the 210 or the 510. It does work fine in a PC though. So I don't know whats up with that. I just ordered a 109 off the shelf, so I'll see if it plays nice. Thanks for all the info here. And don't be chicken while screwing with stuff that you're not supposed to screw with! :roll: D-man[WarLlamas] | ||||
| Hkan posted 2006 Apr 24 22:16 | ||||
WinLirc will work. | ||||
| Robbins1940 posted 2006 Apr 26 18:08 | ||||
Thanks, I will have a look. Edit: No good, I am not any good with building electronics. I took Technology Design at school and got a U. It was the only subject I was crap at but it was the only one in the options block that I could take. | ||||
| dman_warlamas posted 2006 Apr 28 02:40 | ||||
| Update#2: My 210 is back up and running too! :D
I got a DVR107 drive today and installed it in my DVR-210. I did have the same problem as with the 111D drive (trying to close/spin up but doing neither). When I removed the drive I noticed that the MA-SL-CS jumper was not installed. I set the drive to 'Master' and it started behaving just fine. :) I may take the 111D out of my PC if/when either one of these fails or if someone can get DL recording to work. :idea: Thanks to all you smart folks who figure this stuff out! D-man[WarLlamas] | ||||
| kooman posted 2006 May 03 20:04 | ||||
| Good to know lots of people can successfully upgrade the HDD. However can anyone kindly share the link to get the "Service Disk (GGV1179) so that the rest of the fans can enjoy the same. Appreciated!
All thebest! | ||||
| emptyhen posted 2006 May 04 15:12 | ||||
| My DVR-106-XA is starting to fail in my DVR3100S. Has anyone managed to get any other drive eg. DVR110 or DVR111 working in a DVR5100/DVR3100?
For those wanting a service remote, I found that you can use the CCF files from http://www.remotecentral.com/files/index.html with TVRemote from pdawin. Only helpful if you happen to have a comptible PDA, but I found but works great with my unit. On a different note, has anyone had problems with the sound breaking up on the digital audio out? Mark | ||||
| hclark posted 2006 Jun 09 08:42 | ||||
I'm in this boat too. So I guess we'll be need ing a "Service disk" too. | ||||
| hclark posted 2006 Jun 09 08:44 | ||||
Did you find that the DVR-210 accepted more media types with the new drive? I'm particularly thinking of 4X -RW (as 2X -RW is getting rocking-horse-***-like). | ||||
| nrobinson posted 2006 Jun 21 13:41 | ||||
| looking for beg/borrow/rent of Pioneer service remote and Service DVD to repair DVR-420H
anyone know which drive is inside? Nicholas Robinson (UK) efmiwg7(at)bcs.org.uk | ||||
| shoemaker posted 2006 Jul 10 08:05 | ||||
| Hi all,
carried out conversion yesterday: 1st Plextor PX-755A, to mounting several minutes display loading, then (controlled through the recorder !) => open compartment =>close compartment => several minutes display loading => open compartment => close compartment => several minutes display loading and so on, and so on .... result: does not function, neither master, slave, cable select or without! 2nd Plextor PX-708A, to mounting several minutes display loading, then (controlled through the recorder !) => open compartment =>close compartment => several minutes display loading => open compartment => close compartment => several minutes display loading and so on, and so on .... result: does not function, neither master, slave, cable select or without! 3rd NEC ND-3540A, to mounting following goes: functioned DVD-RW in the VR mode, DVD-RW in the video mode; DVD-R and DVD-R-DL not recognized, backup of DVD-RW and DVD-R not possible! result: functions limitedly only with DVD-RW in VR and Video mode ! 4th NEC ND-3550A, to mounting following goes: functioned DVD-RW in the VR mode, DVD-RW in the video mode; DVD-R and DVD-R-DL not recognized, backup of DVD-RW and DVD-R not possible! result: functions limitedly only with DVD-RW in VR and Video mode ! Both NEC´s without input of the ID immediately executable!!! digital audio not connected (is not necessary), brought only "CPRM mistakes". Question is now, with a Pioneer 111 writer or a Sony DVD writer the functionality of the DVD-R writing is possible? Who has the familiar one and tests too? Best regards Shoemaker | ||||
| hclark posted 2006 Jul 10 08:45 | ||||
Sounds interesting. Did you try DVD-RW 4x disks at all? (the drive fitted to these things only works with DVD-RW 2x) | ||||
| shoemaker posted 2006 Jul 12 10:13 | ||||
[quote="hclark"]
Only DVD-RW 2x works :( I think another DVD writer would work better, but I did´nt know which. May be a Sony or a new Pioneer? Regards Shoemaker | ||||
| zeppelin1975 posted 2006 Sep 28 13:40 | ||||
| Hi all,
I´ve a Pioneer DVR-3100 and DVR-320, I can switching drive dvr-106-xa for dvr-11d? Somebody can explain me the process or if it´s possible? Thank´s in advance. P.d: Sorry for my english. :( | ||||
| CommanderShroom posted 2006 Oct 19 12:52 | ||||
| Sorry about the necroposting here.
But I am working on a 510H myself. I have located (finally) a DVR-109 drive. My big question, what kind of rewiring am I looking at? Is this a relatively plug and play swap, or will I have to do some cutting and and soldering? Any links or guides would be great. | ||||
| PMA posted 2006 Oct 23 01:33 | ||||
| Dear friends!
Its all clear about HDD change for Pioneer DVR family. But as for me ( and for others) its hard to understand how to replase DVR-unit. What model can we use? How to change them? Please, help do do it! | ||||
| CommanderShroom posted 2006 Oct 23 23:34 | ||||
| Well in a run of daring or stupidity as it may be. I just did a straight swap.
I located a DVR-109 from an Apple reseller of all things. It "appears" that it will work. There is a two wire connector that I found in the original drive that has no equivilent on the new drive. So I let it be. To no (known) negative results. Otherwise it was a direct swap. Now I have to find the utility disk to reset the security. And of course acquire either a service remote or the files to use a Palm Pilot to act like one. If there is something I am completely missing, could someone yell at me and let me know what it is? | ||||
| mtncat posted 2006 Oct 24 17:50 | ||||
| For Palm
This CCF file works: serviceremoteggf1381.ccf You'll also need CCF to PDB converter and Omniremote from: http://www.pacificneotek.com/downloadMost.htm good luck | ||||
| CommanderShroom posted 2006 Oct 26 12:07 | ||||
| Thanks for the links.
I have located the disk I need. And am going to start on this project next week. I am gonna cross my fingers and hope for the best. :D | ||||
| javanni posted 2006 Nov 11 05:17 | ||||
| I have the Pioneer DVR-510H. Used it/Loved it for my biz PerfectPopcorn.com but the damn DVD drive went out on me. I ordered a replacement DVD drive but after installing, I'm now getting a Firmware error when the machine boots.
I spoke to a service tech at Pioneer and he says the reason I'm getting that error is because anytime you install a replacement DVD drive in the Pioneer DVR you must then insert the FIRMWARE CD to make the connection between the DVR and the new drive. However, he said Pioneer will NOT give out the firmware CD. What the heck? So now I'm stuck with a really cool machine (and a $150 new DVD drive). I also have a ton of really cool edited video on the HDD that I can't access until I either get this firmware issue fixed or have 2 days to pull the HDD and access elsewhere. Can anyone help? Tim / Javanni, Inc. President, CEO www.PerfectPopcorn.com | ||||
| dslrwalker posted 2006 Nov 21 22:20 | ||||
Hi CommanderShroom, Is it possible for you and other big brothers to share the Serivce Disk link? Many Thanks! | ||||
| javanni posted 2006 Nov 22 05:22 | ||||
| Please do share the link where you got the service disc. I am only interested in loading the firmware for my Pioneer recorder after replacing the DVD-R drive. You can also email me at javanni@carolina.rr.com - I would appreciate this so much! My DVR has been collecting dust for over 6 months now and I LOVED IT. I just need the firmware to get it back up and running again. - Tim / www.PerfectPopcorn.com | ||||
| poppy211 posted 2006 Nov 28 11:52 | ||||
| i have the Pioneer DVR-510H can someone tell me how to get service disk and step by step on how to do it upgrade drive | ||||
| evil_lives posted 2006 Dec 01 10:29 | ||||
| I have had my 510H since new, and I have used it daily.... It has worked perfectly all these years.
The problem I have now is that it WON'T recognize 16X blank DVDs???. I know I read somewhere in this thread. That the drive is only 15X???? Since I can only find 16X blanks.... Is there anything I can do??? It worked perfectly with the lower blanks.. Thanks for any replies... Peace. | ||||
| james10s posted 2006 Dec 08 10:33 | ||||
| Hakan, I've sent you 2 or 3 PMs with no reply. Since we communicated quite a bit earlier this year, I can only guess my PMs are not getting through to you. Also, it's apparent you have your hands full assisting other forum members. Please check my PMs. Another request: any chance I can access the latest ( I have the older GG11--) data disk via you? I have a pioneer 530 h-s multi-region/code free. Many thanks. R/James | ||||
| Hkan posted 2006 Dec 09 03:13 | ||||
| Hi James
I got one PM yesterday and i sent one back to you! did you get that? Otherwise send email to supportATpioneerfaq.info | ||||
| ImABamaMan posted 2006 Dec 11 11:36 | ||||
So I assume from your post that you believe the 111D would work if you had set the MA/SL/CS jumper to 'master'? I am going to buy a drive in the next day or so to replace the burner in my now-defunct 531. I found some good deals on 111D's, but found some 107's and 109's too. Just don't wanna waste 40 bucks on the 111D if it won't work. BTW, you'll be fixing it on your Christmas vacation goober!!! :D Bring the stuff!!! :wink: Give me some ideas on a new HD as well, might as well upgrade that too while we are at it. See ya' soon! | ||||
| evil_lives posted 2006 Dec 29 12:54 | ||||
| So does the 111D Drive work in the 510H???
My drive just went, and I was looking around for somekind of replacement.. Thanks for any replies!! Peace. | ||||
| ImABamaMan posted 2006 Dec 31 15:34 | ||||
Yes Evil, it will work.. but you have to have the service remote and disk as described in the above posts of this thread. Good Luck. | ||||
| evil_lives posted 2007 Jan 01 10:54 | ||||
ImABamaMan thank you for the reply.... I do have the service disk, and I am supposed to try my buddies old Palm to see if it will convert to the service remote..... Is the 111D a direct replacement?????, or do I have to gut them both and try and build one??? Will the new 111 drive only work with -R/RW ect... Or will it actually do everything the 111 drive can do(dual layer ect..)?? Sorry for so many questions.. But I have been reading for days, and I think I am more confused than ever.. Peace. | ||||
| Hotbird posted 2007 Jan 04 08:44 | ||||
| Hi@all
Im new in this great Forum and hope to get a Solution for my Problem here ... First of all: I have altogether 5 Pioneer DVR-3100-S Recorders here in use, and with two of them the DVR-106-XA Drive failed. As many other People i tried to install a DVR-111D, but all i get is a CPRM Error after Power on, he can reading with the 111D but not recording because of CPRM ... Referring to all Posts in this Thread i have now downloaded the Pioneer Service Disc Image (pioneer service.nrg) and created a Service Disc, but how and where to get the Service Remote which i need also together with the Service Disc ? I also dont know which Type of Service Remote do i need for the DVR-3100-S Model ? I think it will be the GGF1381, but im not sure ... So i hope to get in Contact with People who have successfully replaced the failed DVR-106-XA Drive with a DVR-111D, because i will not give up all my DVR-3100-S Recorders who are so great :wink: Btw.: Has anyone tried to replace the Laser Unit from a standard DVR-106 Drive in the DVR-106-XA or know if the Laser will be the same ? If this is possible, there should be no Problem with CPRM if im right ... The Laser Unit from the DVR-111D does not fit definitely, so this is no Solution. Best Regards | ||||
| pendu2004 posted 2007 Jan 08 10:55 | ||||
| hotbird, if you have a palm III or higher version then you can convert it to work like a remote. Somewhere in this thread there is posted a way to do it
http://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=253998 I have exactly the same problem as you. I also bought a dvr111D and need to replace my burner drive in 510. but am not sure if I can. There is an extra cable that connects the 510 to dvr 106. That slot is not there in 111D. | ||||
| Hotbird posted 2007 Jan 20 08:19 | ||||
| I have now tested to replace the Laser Unit in my DVR-106-XA from a DVR-106-D and it works fine, there are no differences with the Laser and no Problems with CPRM or any other :)
The only difference from a DVR-106-XA to a DVR-106-D is the Firmware, im not sure if with another Firmware all Functions works fine, but soon i get a Palm and i hope to be succesfull to bring a DVR-111-D up and running, then we know if the Firmware is a Reason or not :wink: | ||||
| Hotbird posted 2007 Jan 21 08:18 | ||||
| Today i got the Palm and after a few Problems with the programming it works fine as Service Remote :)
I have now replaced my DVR-106-XA with a DVR-106-D, but recording stopped after 40 sec. and the DVD is damaged, so i have the Laser Unit from the DVR-106-D converted into the DVR-106-XA and all works fine, so there we have the mentioned Problem with the Firmware i think ... This Week i will get a new DVR-111-D and i hope with this one it will work, because many People wrote they have successfully replaced the old XA-Burner with the DVR-111-D ... :wink: | ||||
| Hotbird posted 2007 Jan 26 10:31 | ||||
| Today i have installed the new DVR-111-D and the Result is the same as with other Drives: Recording stopps approximately after 40 sec. with a DVD-RW and no recording possible with a DVD-R (Message: Cant rec.)
Im disappointed now because i have spend a lot of time and also money for the palm, the service disc and the new DVR-111-D and have no success, so it looks the Firmware does not work and i must dispose all my DVR-3100-S and buy new one :? Has anyone an Idea what could be wrong ? I have also entering the CPRM again and set the Jumper of the DVR-111-D to Master, Slave and Cable Select and have removed it. If anyone has successfully replaced the Drive of a DVR-3100-S please reply here or contact me, thanks | ||||
| nixie posted 2007 Feb 22 19:55 | ||||
I have the 510H. The DV seems to only output when playing from the hard drive or disk. I capture to my PC when playing a title. It's a quicky and easy way of grabbing clips to the PC when you know where they are exactly on the 510. I tested the DV output data while watching live when recording and doing chase play at the same time. It doesn't output data while recording. Pioneer's site seems vague about the DVI jack. They sometimes say DV jack or DV input but not output specifically. Some models don't have the DV jack and most no longer have the jog wheel. I liked those two features on the 510. The manuals for the DVR-633H-S, DVR-533H-S, DVR-532H-S, DVR-531H-S say that the DV jack doesn't output data. | ||||
| keithec posted 2007 Apr 29 08:55 | ||||
| Does anyone know where I can get the Pioneer DVR-510H service manual and the service dvd? I need to replace my hard drive in the unit and cannot find either items anywhere. I've searched the website links on this site and unfortunately cannot get the items. I have the service remote, actually created one myself, just need the manual and the dvd, thanks. The remote that I'm using is a Palm IIIc with the pronto.zip file (Service.ccf that I converted over to a .PDB file).
Thank you, Keith keithsigr@yahoo.com | ||||
| jbpost30 posted 2007 May 02 10:49 | ||||
| Hello
I have the same mistakes "CPRM incorrect" ! Last week a have change my DVR-106x with a Nec DVD-Writer. But no effeckt in my DVR-5100. Now a have change Back the DVR-106X Drive. Power on- and on the Display comes up " DISC REPAIR" and not "CPRM incorrect" and the DVR-106X works great! Yearrr But the next Day again it comes up "CPRM incorrect" . Again, Now I can´t Record (shit) The changes with the NEC DVD-Writer does not go any longer I do not know why. Can sombody tell me how I can make a "DISC REPAIR"? I mean a "DISC REPAIR" that show me on the Display. Maybe with the Remote Control? or other metode? (I have not the Service-manuel) For your assistance I would be grateful Thanks JB. | ||||
| steve-uk9000 posted 2007 May 17 05:05 | ||||
| Ive just started to have problems with my dvd drive. ive had the unit for about 3 years or just after it came out, and mines multi region (with macro off as far as im aware).
However ive not really used mine much, it gets used prob once a month to play dvds, hd is perfect. Theres a lot of dust around my player and ive got my pioneer dv626 from 1999 stacked on top of it in a small door unit, which has settled fine dust on top. I inserted a silver dvd in the drive from a newspaper, ie carry on film and it would not load, but it does load normal dvd-r. dvd+r -DL wont play, which it did do, and ive had a disc inside it for emergency recordings. Im thinking that it might just be a dust problem, ie dirty lense, as this dvd drive has prob only burn 20 discs since new. My dv626 is brilliant at playing all discs apart from Dual layers at the layer break, hence a chapter skip to solve. I intend to strip out the dvd drive and clean the laser - lens, and if that doesnt correct it i will boost the laser slightly to see if that cures the disc reading problems. I will post back either way if my problem gets cured. The problem with pioneer drives is that every model that is brought out, they changed the design and lasers for readability etc. Im also a cd player electronics technician for 18 yrs now, but only delved into dvd from the software and laser tuning side of things along with psu components. The rest are throw away components. +the price of courses these days are not like they used to be in the old days. I also have a few Asus and (Asus manufactured pioneer) drives which i will try in my unit - the dvr-5100h (uk) | ||||
| steve-uk9000 posted 2007 Aug 20 07:23 | ||||
| Has anybody got A service remote for sale, and the servive dvd.
Its the last time i buy anything Pioneer. I changed a drive out of a 3100 into the 5100 and it now comes up with cprm err, and hd error. so changed it back, but now getting hd error. I might change the laser transport over to see if the dvd will read / write and see if hd error will, go but i doubt it. All in all, ive now got over £1200 worth of good cond equipment doing nothing, as the 3100 doesnt work now either, (cprm error). will post results later. | ||||
| keithec posted 2007 Oct 20 15:34 | ||||
| If you need a service remote for the Pioneer DVR-510h try seaching Google for jp1 pioneer service remote. There's a "All in One" or whatever that brand is, there's a website that sells it already converted to jp1, you can connect it to your computer and download the software to it to convert it to act like a Pioneer Service Remote.
As for the GGV1179 service dvd, anyone know where I can get a copy of this? PLEASE | ||||
| nonfee posted 2007 Dec 04 11:25 | ||||
| Hi Keithec,
Let me have your email address and I will email you about the GGV1179 disc. Cheers.. -Shing- | ||||
| kofola posted 2007 Dec 05 01:42 | ||||
| GGV1179 download links here
http://www.dvdboard.de/forum/showthread.php?t=121319 | ||||
| bensy posted 2008 Feb 10 04:16 | ||||
| How do you transfer/copy the video files in the old Hard Drive to the New Hard Drive?Is there an easy way? | ||||
| Frobozz posted 2008 Feb 23 20:51 | ||||
I don't know of an easy way. But if the old hard drive is working and you haven't removed it as yet, then burn the content to several VR-mode DVD-RW discs. When you have the new hard drive working you can high-speed copy the titles from the DVD-RWs back to the new hard drive. | ||||
| flagrant99 posted 2008 Dec 09 20:48 | ||||
| I have a DVR-510H-S and the dvd drive recently died. Tried cleaning didn't help.
I tried 3 replacement DVD IDE Drives and none of them would record, but two would play back. Figured I'd share my results. SAMSUNG SH-S182M Constant Load Errors won't play. NEC ND-3540A DVDRW Plays DVD Movies fine Copy Menus disabled will NOT record. Pioneer DVR-116-DBK Plays DVD Movies fine Copy Menus Are enabled! But I get a "Cannot complete copy" error with all media. The DVR-116-DBK seems so close to working, but not quite. If any one has any ideas let me know. | ||||
| invisibleball posted 2008 Dec 22 00:13 | ||||
| I have the DVR-510H, I've got the service disc and a Logitech Harmony remote that is programed as the service remote but have not seen a step by step procedure for replacing the DVD drive. Could someone who has done it send it to me? Thanks in advance. | ||||
| horsjn posted 2009 Mar 05 13:46 | ||||
| I have a DVR 510 H. The dvd drive quit so, like a dummy, before downloading the video I had on the hard drive I tried to replace the dvd drive. I put in a dvr 116dbk because the cost of the replacement from Pioneer is outrageous. Of course, it didn't work and when I went looking for info I found this site and it is clear I need some software to make it work again. Can someone help me with the following information... 1. Will the resetting of the codes erase the files I currently have on the hard drive? 2. Is there any other way to get those files off - ie. can I hook it up to my computer to access and copy the files? 3. Does anyone have the software the the remote that is referred to in these posts who would be willing to help me get the recorder up and running again? I am willing to pay a reasonable price to get it done. Some of the files on the hard drive are the original recording from one of the cameras for a nephew's wedding video. |
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