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| FairUse question about archiving | ||||
| stiltman posted 2008 Aug 14 21:23 | ||||
| Well my 1tb external drive is full of ISOs of DVDs, so I thought I would reduce the size a little.
I'm taking just the movie and 1 audio track and running it through FairUse. My conversions look pretty good on my standalone player. I haven't tried any conversion back from AVIs to DVDs What do you thing about my settings? I always choose 720x480 in the previous screen and I've been clipping the credits off I always set it 2gb file size too Screenshot of the settings 
Any other way to get better quality a 2gb usingXvid for a standalone? | ||||
| redwudz posted 2008 Aug 14 22:17 | ||||
| Looks good to me. :) What bitrate do you end up with? A Gspot screen shot would be helpful, though it looks like they are about 3126Kbps. If your set top handles that, great. I've been using FUW for H.264 and have been satisfied. Too bad there aren't set top players for that format. :( | ||||
| stiltman posted 2008 Aug 14 22:36 | ||||
| I never thought about too high of a bitrate :cry:
Here's just one screenshot. Most seem to be around 2500, one was 5600 though :shock:  | ||||
| redwudz posted 2008 Aug 14 23:24 | ||||
| Just from what I've read on this site, I thought Xvid/Divx bitrates over about 2000Kbps were problematic with some players, though no personal experience. :( | ||||
| stiltman posted 2008 Aug 14 23:31 | ||||
| I guess I'll burn one of the highest bitrate ones to a DVD to see
Edit: Just tried a movie burned to DVD that was 4856Kb. It also happened to be over 2gb :( Can't figure out why, but most all have been 2048 or so. The last 2 have changed in size. One was 2366mb and the other was 2750mb. They were all done with the same settings BTW, my standalone DVD player didn't have any problems playing it. However it did take it a little longer to read the indexing at the begining | ||||
| redwudz posted 2008 Aug 15 02:04 | ||||
| That's good that the playback works well. :) I picked up a cheap Philips 3960 Divx player a week ago, but haven't had any time to see what capabilities it has. Most all my Divx/Xvid/H.264 videos are on the servers, but I wanted something to test for compatibility on set top players.
One big advantage to the high bitrate is if you do decide to convert one to MPEG DVD, it should preserve most of the quality. Most of my Divx/Xvid encodes are around 1.5GB and I find that sufficient for my needs. But since they are DVD backups, no real reason to convert them back to DVD format. I do plan to convert some of my older DVD rips on the server to H.264 and that will be at about 1.5GB also, so I should have a good comparison to the Divx/Xvid backups. | ||||
| stiltman posted 2008 Aug 15 10:48 | ||||
| That was another idea I had.
Use a high bitrate so if there was a case I HAD to convert it to DVD, it would look half way decent. Of cource it wouldn't be 5.1 anymore :( I did try to keep the original audio streams using autoGK, but the audio sync was off as much as 20 seconds sometimes. This was the main reason I switched to Fairuse for a converter | ||||
| Almost Human posted 2008 Aug 15 13:11 | ||||
| stiltman - Why not keep the 5.1 track in FUW? On the last page before encoding begins, just select AC3 instead of MP3. FUW will not alter the orginal sountrack.
I keep all of the original AC3 tracks, but I use Quantizer 2 instead of setting my own size value. Each DVD is encoded at a different bitrate. Telling it what size you want is great for fitting on discs, but will produce various results. You may not be able to tell the difference between two DVD's, but coverted to Xvid may result in noticible quality differences. My videos converted at Quantizer 2 are stunning on a 32" TV, and some are considerably less than 2Gb. | ||||
| stiltman posted 2008 Aug 16 17:55 | ||||
DOH! OK now using AC3, Thanks! I trying a full test right now. AC3 quantizer 2, it came out to be 1.3gb and the bitrate was around 1500 Now I'm trying the same movie but changing it 2gb size, 2 pass no quantizer Want to see if the average bitrate will increase Edit: I set it to 2gb but it came out at 2.3gb :( Bitrate went from 1500 to 3000 :) Edit 2: I see what it's doing. If I set it to use the AC3 audio untouched, it just adds that on to the file size at the end. In this case AC3 was 300mb and I set the file size to 2gb, so in the end the final file was close to 2.3gb | ||||
| stiltman posted 2008 Aug 17 17:08 | ||||
| How setting it to 2gb file size is pretty much random with the movies I've trown at it so far. I thought at first it wasn't taking the audio strean into account, but that's not it. I've been encoding movies 3 times each now to get the file as close to 2gb as I came
Strange | ||||
| stiltman posted 2008 Aug 18 12:35 | ||||
| Anyone know how to *force* Fairuse to stick to the set file size?
It seems to be a total crap shoot. All DVDs are in ISO form on my HDD Last night I did the same movie 4 times before I got it to be close to 2gb 1st time set it to 1999mb and it ended up at 2568mb 2nd time set it to 1850mb and it ended up at 2307mb 3rd time set to 1750mb and it ended up at 2218mb 4th at 1700mb and it came out to 2107mb All of them used the same untouched AC3 at about 400mb Next DVD I tried I set it to 2gb and it came out at 2045mb It had an AC3 of 360mb Total crap shoot | ||||
| stiltman posted 2008 Sep 21 21:55 | ||||
| OK I seem to be having problems with a few encodes higher than 4000kbs burn to DVDs It will start out a little jercking (first couple a minutes) and then settle down a bit.
Is there a way to reduce the bitrate a little without having to go all the way back to the begining with fairuse (aka using the original DVD or ISO)? Some thing easier than putting the DVD back in a gain. Looks like I'll be keeping all my encoides under 4K for now on :) | ||||
| edDV posted 2008 Sep 21 23:11 | ||||
| Why waste the time? Fry's has 1TB Seagates for $149 and rumor is they may be down to $99 by Black Friday.
http://www.slashgear.com/early-black-friday-forecast-149-blu-ray- ... v-1916790/ | ||||
| stiltman posted 2008 Sep 26 00:28 | ||||
| Got a couple of questions, but first let me say my standalone has no problems playing either
I started out using FairUse with the defualt settings but upped the file size to 2GB Then after someone posted that I could use the original AC3 audio I went with that. However I didn't realize it also changed some other settings. My questions Whats the difference between: MP3 Audio Video Format : MPEG-4 Visual Format profile : Simple@L3 Format settings, BVOP : No Format settings, QPel : No Format settings, GMC : No warppoints Format settings, Matrix : Default Codec ID : XVID Codec ID/Hint : XviD and AC3 Audio Video Format : MPEG-4 Visual Format profile : Streaming Video@L1 Format settings, BVOP : Yes Format settings, QPel : No Format settings, GMC : No warppoints Format settings, Matrix : Default Muxing mode : Packed bitstream Codec ID : XVID Codec ID/Hint : XviD Namely what BVOP, @L1 or @L3, Simple vs Streaming, Packed or Unpacked Also, even though I set the profile for "home" which shades out packed bitstream, it still encodes with packed bitstream for some reason. If you need the whole media info text, just let me know Newbie questions, I know, but hey the answers will sure help out others I bet :) | ||||
| RabidDog posted 2008 Sep 26 11:56 | ||||
| STreaming is for sending stuff over the webistan, so it try's to keep below a max bitrate and probably trys to keep a more constant bitrate. use unpacked and divx home theatre profile. keeping files under 4gb allows them to be burnt to a dvd-r.
There is no way of "shrinking" an mpeg4 file, re-do. | ||||
| stiltman posted 2008 Sep 26 18:32 | ||||
I set it to 2gb file size with AC3 audio. I noticed it will go to unpacked if I convert the AC3 audio to MP3. |
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