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Drivers - are you a lane changer? | ||||||
| yoda313 posted 2009 Jun 06 09:06 | ||||||
| So are you an obsessive lane changer while driving?
Do you treat it like a video game and hop lanes any chance you get? While on the freeway (highway for you other folks) I'll change lanes occasionally when somebody is going more than 3 or 4 mph under the speed limit and there is an opening to change. However if I'm only a few miles away from my exit I'll usually just bite the bullet and trail them because I won't have enough distance to pass them and get back to my lane. I almost never hop lanes on surface streets. I mean whats the point? So your there twenty seconds faster? Is it really worth the hassle? | ||||||
| usually_quiet posted 2009 Jun 06 09:21 | ||||||
| I'm not prone to changing lanes either, but I used to ride with someone who treated the road [s:966f87e3ef]with[/s:966f87e3ef] like a video game.
He was a skilled driver in some ways but overconfident and reckless, and he used to play games with other drivers. I hated having to be in the same car with him behind the wheel. I found out recently he was killed in a one-car accident in January. | ||||||
| M Bruner posted 2009 Jun 06 09:33 | ||||||
| Nope, never felt I needed to. I do keep an eye out for them though, their unpredictability makes driving even more hazardous. | ||||||
| freebird73717 posted 2009 Jun 06 10:28 | ||||||
| No I usually just drive the posted limit. It drives my wife nuts! For her if you are not 10 minutes early for something then you are 5 minutes late! So she drives fast every where! | ||||||
| Des posted 2009 Jun 06 11:38 | ||||||
| I drive prudently :D
Typically pacing with highway drivers unless it's crazy. My norm is to drive between the speed limit and maybe 10 miles over it if conditions permit. I don't change lanes much though, only to be prepared to exit or if I recognise something is not right up ahead or someone is moving too slowly. I like on the very rare events that the NJ Parkway has no traffic, then I have in my younger days (and last year) hit the 100mph mark for short periods of time. --dES | ||||||
| redwudz posted 2009 Jun 06 11:41 | ||||||
| I hate freeways in general, so I usually just find a comfortable speed and stick with it, no need to change lanes that much. Around here, trucks can run the same speed as autos, so there aren't that many slow drivers or vehicles. As long as the slow ones stay to the right hand lanes, they don't bother me and I just stay in the number two or number three lanes. | ||||||
| Xylob the Destroyer posted 2009 Jun 06 12:04 | ||||||
| I have 1 rule for driving: GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE WAY!
That applies to you, me, and everybody. There is a reason your car came with 3 mirrors - PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS AND PAY ATTENTION. Yes, I change lanes. If I'm going right to get around some idiot left-laner I'll absolutely give the folks behind/to the right a turn signal and I'll be courteous. If I'm going left to get past that asshole left-laner that I just went right to get around, there's a fair chance his ass is getting cut off (mostly depending on my mood). Otherwise I'm super obsessive about turn signals. USE THEM! They're pretty much the only way you have of letting the rest of us know what the hell you're doing. I thought they were standard equipment these days, but either all these nifty new cars aren't coming with turn signals or everybody is just too fucking stupid to know how to work them... | ||||||
| Ally68 posted 2009 Jun 06 12:23 | ||||||
| I only pass the slow drivers, which are usually old folks lol | ||||||
| yoda313 posted 2009 Jun 06 12:27 | ||||||
I can't agree more about the turn signals. At least that much I agree with your post Xylob :) | ||||||
| Xylob the Destroyer posted 2009 Jun 06 12:35 | ||||||
What a concept. Thanks for being considerate and polite! Too bad there aren't more like you... Around here you can (and will) get pulled over and ticketed for holding up traffic in the left lane - even if you're doing the speed limit or faster. Obstructing the flow of traffic gets you a pretty stiff fine and several points against you license. It's sweet. It's pretty much in line with my 1 driving rule. | ||||||
| Xylob the Destroyer posted 2009 Jun 06 12:37 | ||||||
I drive fast. People ask "what's the big deal? you in a hurry or something?" Yes I'm in a hurry - THAT'S WHY I'M DRIVING! If I wasn't in a hurry I'd walk or bike... Idiots. | ||||||
| M Bruner posted 2009 Jun 06 12:47 | ||||||
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| gadgetguy posted 2009 Jun 06 13:04 | ||||||
| Of course I change lanes, I couldn't get where I'm going without changing lanes. But I don't weave in and out of traffic. On highways I generally keep right except to pass, but I don't jump right back if I'm going faster than the next car and know that I'll have to come right back. If that means someone behind me has to slow down, tough. I'm already going as fast as the law allows. I once had a judge make it very clear that I AM THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC, regardless of what anyone else on the road is doing. | ||||||
| yoda313 posted 2009 Jun 06 13:09 | ||||||
I guess thats another way of saying "go the speed limit" huh? :) | ||||||
| gll99 posted 2009 Jun 06 13:52 | ||||||
Do you really want them driving fast! :lol: I change when there is a major advantage or in areas where I know the traffic patterns pretty well in advance and if it's safe to do it otherwise why bother. | ||||||
| Xylob the Destroyer posted 2009 Jun 06 13:58 | ||||||
If you're on time, you're late. Still no reason to drive like a maniac though. | ||||||
| gadgetguy posted 2009 Jun 06 14:13 | ||||||
Yeah, my son was fighting a speeding ticket and I brought up the flow of traffic excuse. The judge jumped down my throat so hard I thought he was going to come out my... nether end. | ||||||
| TBoneit posted 2009 Jun 06 17:10 | ||||||
| The last person that passed me on a on-ramp was amazed that we collided. The idiot thought I'd jam on the brakes or swerve for someone passing on the shoulder to cut back in.
I do at least the speed limit and stay right and use turn signals and come to full stops for red lights and stop signs (What a concept)! When I come to a stop at a red light I stay stopped. I don't keep creeping until I'm halfway across the intersection. Back in the 80's I was was exiting the BQE and had to stop part way down the ramp until the guy that used to be behind me backed the hood of his car out from under the trailer. Did I care? I got paid by the hour. Just remember next time you cut in front of a big rig and brake he doesn't care, you'll bounce a few times, your car will be ruined and his bumper will be slightly bent and need a respray. Nowdays I drive a whole 5 minutes to work and back to home and my motto is "What me hurry?" Cheers | ||||||
| redwudz posted 2009 Jun 06 17:29 | ||||||
| They will likely ticket you around here more often for impeding the flow of traffic than driving too fast in the number one lane. (Fast lane) The older or slower drivers usually stay to the far right. It helps that the trucks do the same speed as other traffic, so it flows well enough except at rush hours.
A fair amount of freeways around here are also 5 or more lanes in each direction, so you have choices. You can even use the carpool lane in off hours if you want to pass everyone. :) Most tickets issued on the freewares are given for unsafe lane changes. (Yeah, no turn signals and HUA (Head Up your Ass) driving. But most freeway drivers are courteous and safety minded. The surface streets are different. I have seen some 12MPH grannies with the top of their head just showing over the steering wheel. :lol: I just pull over and let someone else ride their ass, blow their horn and scream at them. :lol: Fortunately they stay off the freeways. :) | ||||||
| G)-(OST posted 2009 Jun 06 17:51 | ||||||
| I can't stand slow drivers, hence I have lost my drivers licence 5 times & one of those times for 5 years, doing a runner from the cops, I was a naughty boy when I was a teenager, always on the gas | ||||||
| Xylob the Destroyer posted 2009 Jun 06 18:54 | ||||||
Passed you on the on-ramp? These are the people that it should be legal to shoot... They're adding to the gene pool and that must stop! | ||||||
| MEL15 posted 2009 Jun 06 19:18 | ||||||
| Driving skills it's neither goin fast or slow.....If people behind the wheel of a car,would take driving seriously we all would be better off.Driving lanes passing lanes slow lanes,there's a high percentage of people that don't know the difference.I see them every morning and every night....Braindead at the wheel........I felt safer doin 110mph in Italy then 65mph here in New york. | ||||||
| DereX888 posted 2009 Jun 06 19:56 | ||||||
| I don't know what you mean by "obsessive lane changer".
See, in most of Europe, people who drive slow keep RIGHT lane, or lane as much towards right as possible. In America, specially in US & Canadian cities, so many idiots keep 50 on the left lane that I swear sometimes I am not surprised by any "road rage" acts of violence at all. Many people don't notice that, but I drive a lot (and not only in America). Unfortunately it is so common on american highways to have all highway lanes blocked by drivers keeping the same below limit speed on all lanes, that its impossible to pass them any other way than doing "obsessive lane changing" and some honking like it were some video game. Just few hours ago I was blocked by some stupid girl keeping 40-45 on the left lane on a 50mph highway. Hopefully she'll learn how to drive or die soon in some horrible accident run over by huge truck doing 55 and she won't piss any people ever again (it'll be a waste since she was cute - which didn't stop me from showing her finger of course ;) Too many idiots here don't understand that driving too slow on a highway is as dangerous as speeding.
exactly!
That's right. I drive fast when I'm in a hurry too, and it's none of anyone's business why I or someone else is driving fast. People should just get the f**k out of the left lane if they are driving slow (and again - it's nobody's business why someone is driving slow either, it's their choice - for as long as they stay in the slow lane, a.k.a RIGHT lane(s)! ) | ||||||
| M Bruner posted 2009 Jun 06 20:16 | ||||||
| I once sat in on a lecture by a traffic policeman, and he told us what still amazes me today. About how many people say is what I still see a lot of in this very thraed. The posted speed limit is exactly that -- the limit. If you are in the passing lane and you're over the limit, you're breaking the law, plain and simple. | ||||||
| Xylob the Destroyer posted 2009 Jun 06 20:20 | ||||||
| And if you are in the passing lane and not passing you are breaking the law, plain and simple.
And if you are doing 45 in the passing lane (or any fucking lane) with speed limit posted 65 and MINIMUM posted 50 you are breaking the law. Plain and simple. | ||||||
| DereX888 posted 2009 Jun 06 20:28 | ||||||
Driving fast does not automatically mean driving over the posted speed limits, has this ever occured to you? And OTOH the posted speed limits are calculated for *average worst driving conditions* in that area, and for the typical moron drivers. As you probably know, like with everything else we all are NOT equal, and we all have different driving skills. I can drive fast and safely, while someone else may not drive safely at any speed. And there isn't always winter time and winter conditions on the roads... (i.e. they don't change the speed limit signs when summer comes, however the speed limits are set according to average winter conditions, ya know). Cops should give more tickets for driving too slow (they never do this in USA unfortunately, but they do in Europe - and that's why morons doing way below speed limit don't stay in the left lanes there like they do in America). One would think it's obvious if you are bad driver and you are not comfortable even at 50mph on a highway that you shouldn't take highways at all. Yet all such people DO take highways, you can see them every day on every highway (usually in Volvo, hahaha). Common sense is scarce in modern America. Majority of accidents on the roads are because of these bad drivers, not because of those who are speeding (that would be distant #3 reason, after drunk drivers). Traffic cops nowadays are just extension of local city budgets, they're after handing out tickets easiest and fastest way possible. They are like Tax Audit officers - of course they won't tell you what options are best for you, they just want your money - the more the better (for them).
Plain and fucking simple. <sigh> but as I said - there are too many idiots in America. They won't understand why drivers keeping side by side by side the same speed on all lanes is not the same as them driving one by one by one on the same lane. It requires brain to think... 'nuff said. | ||||||
| usually_quiet posted 2009 Jun 06 21:57 | ||||||
| Why does everbody in this thread assume its about interstate highway driving or equivalent? Most of the driving that I do at highway speeds is on a heavily traveled state route with some traffic lights, where left and right turns are permitted. I am not going to get out of the lane I need to be in to turn left at the light a quarter mile ahead, or speed up, because some idiot behind me wants to go 65 to make the light. These people espect everyone to get out of their way regardless, and weave in and out of traffic like they are driving on a speedway. | ||||||
| lordsmurf posted 2009 Jun 06 22:20 | ||||||
Yep. 8) | ||||||
| edong posted 2009 Jun 06 22:23 | ||||||
| Once I was doing 70MPH (posted limit is 65) in the fast lane driving leisurely. I did not notice the SUV behind. It passed me with an angry driver then cut me on the fast lane. Am I the f***ing idiot, who was already driving 5 miles above the limit or that driver with "get-out-of-my-way" attitude? Same thing in carpool lanes. I can see that many drivers are not very happy to have cars already doing the maximum speed limit in front of them (because they are faster). Seems carpool lanes are for unlimited speed.
Even I consider myself a "careful" driver and do not aggressively change lanes, twice I got ticketed for doing 5 and 10 miles over the speed limit. Some cops are serious in implementing the zero tolerance policy. | ||||||
| hech54 posted 2009 Jun 07 00:32 | ||||||
| I'd really love to see you guys drive over here in Germany....:):):)
Lane changing....constant lane changing....isn't optional....it IS the way you drive the German Autobahns. You can't just park your ass in a lane and hit the cruise control. You'll get a car up your ass, cause an accident and it WILL BE your fault. It freaked me out when I first got here....:):) | ||||||
| yoda313 posted 2009 Jun 07 05:41 | ||||||
| @hech54 - well I think part of the problem is that some people think we do have the authobahn here in the US. It's the rest of us that don't think that way that get in their way :D :D | ||||||
| netmask56 posted 2009 Jun 07 05:55 | ||||||
| I change lane when it is safe to do so and yes I tend to drive on the fast side but rarely over the speed limit. In my 50 years of driving I've never been booked for speeding - yep I'm and old driver with a sports car, a 70 year old, but then I've only ever driven a manual sports. I did a reaction speed test recently and according to the result I'm 45. yeh! My pet hate is being stuck behind "lawn bowlers driving a Volvo" at funeral pace, then I turn crazy..... :D | ||||||
| Xylob the Destroyer posted 2009 Jun 07 09:24 | ||||||
| Just because I change lanes to get around slow-asses doesn't mean I'm constantly cutting through traffic and weaving... Don't get me started on these idiots on crotch rockets who split lanes, pass in medians/break-down lanes, and do wheelies in heavy traffic!
I generally stick to the middle lane if there are 3 or more lanes and the right lane if only 2 are available. And just because I drive fast doesn't necessarily mean I'm always speeding. I reach the speed limit quickly which is NOT the same as exceeding it. As I said, my 1 rule applies to me as well. It's those idiots in the Volvos who seem to love sitting at the green light waiting for it to get MORE green before they decide to go that more often than not cause me to drive faster. So many drivers don't seem to understand that there are other people on the road beside them. Too many people seem to believe that 'what's behind me doesn't matter'. Again, there's a reason your car came with 3 fucking mirrors. When I pull up behind you and look at your rear-view mirror I should be able to see the part of your face that contains your eyes - that means that when you look in that same mirror you can see me, not your damned hair-do! Traffic lights are designed to keep the traffic moving safely and in a somewhat coordinated manner. If you're the only asshole who got through the intersection before the light turned yellow (or red) it means you need to remove your head from your ass and step on the damned gas. Red lights are NOT the time to fix your hair/makeup, text your idiot friends, play with yourself, beat the kids, etc. Red lights are the time for you to continue paying attention to your surroundings. This includes (but is not limited to): checking your mirrors, watching the lights for your cross traffic (so you know when yours is going to turn green!), and paying attention to not only the traffic ahead and behind you, but the cross traffic so that you can be sure that when the cross traffic gets a red and you have a green it is actually safe to go and some idiot isn't going to plow you as they blow the red. | ||||||
| Constant Gardener posted 2009 Jun 07 10:51 | ||||||
| I'm a Bocce-playing Volvo driver - and I try to avoid lane changes and red lights. Low-energy driving. It's another game, perhaps not appreciated by the red BMW behind me, yep, he thinks he can pass me and make that light, now he's waiting for the light, time for me to change lanes and sail past his nearly stationary car since I anticipated the light and didn't lose any speed. Less gas, less brake, and much entertainment for my family. | ||||||
| Xylob the Destroyer posted 2009 Jun 07 20:52 | ||||||
| putt putt putt putt...
I will admit that over the last year or so my driving has slowed a bit -- keep the RPMs low and shift early, you'll save gas! Also, even though it's totally illegal, I'll put it in neutral when I'm going down big hills. | ||||||
| Seeker47 posted 2009 Jun 08 01:58 | ||||||
| Frequent, continual lane changes is pretty much what you'd have to call weaving.
The thing that is particularly irksome (and dangerous, and stupid) is that you often see this behavior in traffic conditions (like in and around a major metro area) where it gains that driver no meaningful advantage -- not even momentarily. It's like racing up to an already red light. Why ? Because you're an idiot. The other thing I really love is when going 10 over the limit, but that's just not fast enough for some jerk crawling up your tailpipe. I'm always glad to let him pass, and hope that he draws the attention of any nearby heat away from me, and gets the ticket instead. This seems to work quite well. Haven't gotten a speeding ticket in at least 20 years. | ||||||
| misterbill posted 2009 Jun 08 04:32 | ||||||
| I am not an obsessive lane changer. I do notice people who are, and a lot of them pass me more than once on my 8 mile daily trip to and from work on US1.
Here in south Florida there is always going to be somebody faster and there is always going to be somebody slower. Usually trying to occupy the same lane at the same time. | ||||||
| DereX888 posted 2009 Jun 08 08:49 | ||||||
| I actually am surprised with those posting here that they drive slow and are somewhat proud of it.
You people are missing entirely the point that the problem is exactly WITH YOU, not with those who drive fast. If you would keep right lane when you drive slow there would never be a problem. If YOU wouldn't block those who drive faster than you, you wouldn't see any "obsessive lane changers" ever and wouldn't have to complain about them! I don't mean to call anyone names, but really the most problems on the roads are with the idiots who drive slow on a fast lane, is it so hard to comprehend it? No one is forcing anybody to drive faster or slower, just stick to the righ lane(s) if you are not the fastest on the road, and don't speed on the right lane(s) when you are not the slowest one, it's so simple! And don't worry about someone else speeding or breaking the law, its NONE of your business why are they speeding (same as it's none of their business that you are a road snail - for as long as you stay in the right lane). It's not your job, it's cops job to worry about them (that's what you pay for with your taxes anyways). Does it hurt some of you's pride or something that you just can't stay in the slow lane and must block the fast/passing/left lane(s)? Just get the fuck out of the way and there is no problem, and no discussion is needed, geez... | ||||||
| gadgetguy posted 2009 Jun 08 09:15 | ||||||
| And while we're talking about slow drivers...
YOU CAN'T MERGE WITH TRAFFIC GOING 70 WHEN YOU ARE ONLY GOING 50. Sorry, didn't mean to yell. But that's how it usually comes out when I'm behind them. | ||||||
| cal_tony posted 2009 Jun 08 11:00 | ||||||
| In one of my cars or trucks I usually go less than the speed limit and just stay to the right and relax. On one of my bikes(motorcycles) the sky's the limit. But, thankfully in Calif. they have something called lane splitting for motorcycles. So, you can legally squeeze by a car without even bothering to change lanes. Now how easy is that?
Tony | ||||||
| dadrab posted 2009 Jun 08 15:30 | ||||||
| I'm not much when it comes to zigging and zagging. There's nothing to be gained. I usually glue my speedometer to about 10 mph above the posted limit and cruise.
Around where I live, there are streets that reduce in lane count as you go - i.e. three into two into one (per side of the yellow). What I love are the guys who pull into the RH lane at a light even though they know there's only 300 feet of that lane on the other side of the intersection. They've just got to get in front. Once there, they don't even drive at the speed limit, but they're first. Gotta be first. Well, if they pull up beside an old, black 1987 Mitsubishi Montero and try that shit they're in for a surprise and (if I'm lucky) a little embarassment. What they don't know is that under the hood of that old SUV beats the heart of a sports car - about 260 HP worth with a custom built transmission, transfer case and limited slip differentials front AND rear. I know what I'm talking about because I built and installed every nut and bolt. We'll leave from the light. They'll pull ahead a little because after all, it's a real SUV aptly suited to off-road driving and first and second gears are low. But about the time they're ready to pull back over in front of me (and running out of lane), I hit third gear, the turbo spins up and I laughingly blow past them and leave them with their bare faces hanging out. And the looks on those faces are priceless. 8) | ||||||
| fritzi93 posted 2009 Jun 08 15:50 | ||||||
Speaking of weaving in traffic, constantly jumping lanes and cutting people off.....Reminds me of Dallas, Texas, the drivers there are nuts! :-x Sport bikes are a sore spot with me. Oftentimes I'll be cruising on my bike when a sportie approaches from behind. Normal protocol is to maintain at least a 2-second gap unless it's a group ride. Nah, the kid either doesn't know, or care. So I shift over so we can ride staggered, left side/right side of the lane, for safety's sake. But I keep my eye on him. Often as not, he sees this as the A-OK to blast past me in the open half of the lane. I should mention that "lane sharing" is legal in some states for motorcycles, but passing in that manner doesn't qualify. I wish those prospective organ donors would get it over with, provided they don't take me with them. :wink: EDIT: To clarify, lane splitting and lane-sharing are often confused. Only in California may you split lanes with cars and thereby pass them. Some states allow motorcycles to lane-share (to distinguish from lane staggering). Mind you, if there's traffic and the sportie motions me he wants to pass, I got no problem moving to the right and waving him by. But if he jumps past me unannounced on the RIGHT, I got a problem with it. :boom: EDIT #2: Oh yeah, I voted "Sometimes". :) | ||||||
| usually_quiet posted 2009 Jun 08 17:17 | ||||||
| As long as I am occupying the left lane to pass slower traffic or turn, I have the right to be there, and I won't move over until I can do it safely, and without slowing down. Otherwise, I travel in the right lane.
No I am not worried about what happens to the speeders. I am worried about what happens to me, my insurance rates, my drivers license, and my gas mileage if I drive to please them. As far as I am concerned they can all wind up without a drivers license, or like my former friend, flipped upside down in the median, dead. He was apparently driving too fast for the road conditions that night. I'm just glad he didn't take anybody else with him. | ||||||
| Xylob the Destroyer posted 2009 Jun 08 18:28 | ||||||
That's awesome :) , but here's the real question -- before you get into that left lane do you look to see if somebody is already trying to pass you? Based on your post and the tone (or lack of) I'm assuming that you do. Most people don't though - they just crank the wheel and to hell with what's behind 'em... | ||||||
| lordsmurf posted 2009 Jun 08 21:25 | ||||||
Dallas also invented road rage. If you can drive in Dallas, you can pretty much drive anywhere. 8) I will say this, however: If the speed limit is 55, and I'm already going 65-70, and you want to go faster -- go fuck yourself. Pass me on the shoulder, asshole. I'm not moving into the slow lane behind a car going 55mph, just to appease your dumb butt. Piss off! | ||||||
| usually_quiet posted 2009 Jun 09 18:28 | ||||||
Within reason. I do pay close attention to traffic already in the fast lane, but if I see there is sombody a mile down the road is flying low, and I want to pass, he'll have to wait his turn if he catches up to me before I return to the right lane. | ||||||
| Seeker47 posted 2009 Jun 11 12:12 | ||||||
Elaborating on what I said earlier -- It's amazing how often all the lanes are doing pretty much the same, traffic flow wise (that is, not real good), AND YET rather stupid, impatient people insist on weaving around to gain some extremely brief or negligible "advantage." If there was some real, useful advantage to be had, I would already have considered taking it ! If there is NO advantage there to be had, it costs you NOTHING to be a responsible, considerate driver. And, purely in your own self-interest, maintaining a reasonable following distance can save your life and save you a lot of $$$. On the 2.5 hour drive I took a few days ago, the max speed limit was either 65 or 70, over different stretches. As usual, I was probably doing 5 or 10 over that for most of the way . . . while remaining vigilant for the Highway Patrol and places where they are especially prone to doing their thing. (I did not make any abrupt lane changes, or maneuvers that are apt to get their attention.) Along the route, I saw two vehicles pulled over, which had previously zoomed past me, now gettin' the bizness from a trooper. Man, that is such a satisfying feeling ! Not quite like your horse won the Derby, but it's close. | ||||||
| TheFamilyMan posted 2009 Jun 11 13:38 | ||||||
| Being a courier taught me: understand the traffic flow, don't be in a hurry when there is no way to do so, and don't cause other drivers grief if possible. This means that if everyone is doing 70 in a 65 zone, I better be doing 70 too; in fact I been passed by CHPs without incident in this circumstance. If everyone followed this advise there would be no need to rant except for heavy traffic. Driving is ALWAYS serious business for you are controlling a lethal weapon. I wish everyone would remind themselves of this when they start up their car. | ||||||
| lordsmurf posted 2009 Jun 11 14:14 | ||||||
| Going with the flow also means that you're not allowed to go 45-55 in a 55, if everybody else wants the flow to be 60-65. You're a danger by going too slow. | ||||||
| gadgetguy posted 2009 Jun 11 14:51 | ||||||
While I agree it's safer, it won't hold water in court. (As explained in my earlier posts). If a cop decides he doesn't like the color of your hair, he's within his rights to pull you over for speeding and if you try to fight it in court, you don't have a leg to stand on. At least that's how it is in Michigan. | ||||||
| DereX888 posted 2009 Jun 11 15:27 | ||||||
That's how it is everywhere. We got ticket in Germany for having DIRTY CAR, and wait for this: it was during rainy day :D (I am not kidding, I swear). Copper obviously was right, car was dirty... there was speck of mud was on the plate... and obviously it didn't have anything to do with our schiesse yankee NY licence plate, of course ;) | ||||||
| MEL15 posted 2009 Jun 12 19:19 | ||||||
| If some people have a problem with lane changin or keeping right you don't belong on any road let alone the highway.That is exactly the driving skill I was referring to on my previous post.Am a fast driver and fast doesn't only mean speed.It means reading what ahead and behind me at all times.Road rage its having to stay behind a complete ass that shouldn't be behind a steering wheel.KEEP RIGHT AND LET ME PASS AND IF I FLASH MY BRIGHTS AT YOU, ITS NOT TO BRIGHTEN YOUR PATH.IT'S BECAUSE I WANT YOU OUT OF MY WAY.................One question,Can anybody compare the European driving test to the American.....it's a joke. | ||||||
| Xylob the Destroyer posted 2009 Jun 13 07:49 | ||||||
| I never drove until I was 25.
I got my state's drivers manual and studied it for a month. A MONTH! I memorized that bad boy. I was so fucking pissed when I took the test.... The practical was a drive around the damned block, and the written was 10 fucking questions. And the vision exam? My mother in law was legally blind and still passed the vision exam. LEGALLY BLIND!!! They'll give a drivers license to any asshole who can pay the fee. | ||||||
| Supreme2k posted 2009 Jun 16 16:38 | ||||||
| I just noticed that the "lane changer" and "beer drinker" polls are right next to each other :lol:
Xylob, do you mean "pissed" as in drunk, or angry? I remember studying and taking those lame tests. Completely worthless. If you've ever been on the road, driving or driven, you already know that they give licenses to anyone. I try to stay in one lane, but I often come up to those doing 45mph on the freeway (I usually do 65-75, depending on the highway). | ||||||
| gadgetguy posted 2009 Jun 16 17:10 | ||||||
Now you understand the true motivation for licensing. | ||||||
| Xylob the Destroyer posted 2009 Jun 16 18:30 | ||||||
| Yeah, but the state's always bitching that they're so broke...
Here's a solution: -fix the damned tests so they actually test your knowledge, skills, and abilities as a driver -make a full practical and written test mandatory EVERY YEAR for ALL drivers under age 18. -make a full practical and written test mandatory EVERY YEAR for ALL drivers over age 60. That'll make a fair amount of $$$ and get at least a few of the idiots off the road. | ||||||
| Supreme2k posted 2009 Jun 16 18:58 | ||||||
| I'll add to that:
-make a full practical and written test mandatory EVERY YEAR for ALL drivers who get a ticket (next renewal, moving violations only). | ||||||
| gadgetguy posted 2009 Jun 16 19:06 | ||||||
| Unfortunately, none of that will make more money for the state, but it will cost the taxpayer a lot more. You'll have to at least triple the staff, expand the hours of operation, and increase the insurance on every state employee that administers the practical test. You'll have ever increasing costs with formulating the written test every time there are changes in the law, and increased security costs, both to maintain the test secrecy, and for crowd control. | ||||||
| dadrab posted 2009 Jun 17 07:52 | ||||||
Nice idea, but we all know it ain't gonna happen. Hell, if they did that around here, they'd reduce the number of drivers on the road by 30%. Want to make it a full 50%? Make it mandatory that vehicles be in good, safe operating condition. | ||||||
| Xylob the Destroyer posted 2009 Jun 17 18:21 | ||||||
| Supposedly that's already the law, but you wouldn't know it from all the junk zipping around the roads here... | ||||||
| MEL15 posted 2009 Jun 18 23:28 | ||||||
| Here we go again......Late night at work trying to get home doin 40mph on a 30mph road.This braindead gets in front of me in a hurry and then just dies at the wheel......40 30 20.....TO ALL OF YOU ***HOLES GET OFF THE ROAD. |
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