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| DiVX (AVI) to (S)VCD using DVD2SVCD | ||||||||||||||||||||
| LeeBear posted 2002 Sep 09 12:00 | ||||||||||||||||||||
- By: LeeBear - ver. 1.0 Hello, this is my first time at writing a guide so please excuse any errors. I decide to write this guide because alot of people seem to be asking how they can convert there DiVX (avi) movies into a SVCD so they can watch on there DVD Player. This guide will go through the entire process I used to put the movie "Spider-man" onto a 2 disc SVCD. I will try to explain each step and why it was done, but I will assume you have a general understanding of encoding and are familiar with the programs used in this guide. Some steps are optional and I will try to make a note of them. Note this is not a just a guide to get a DiVX movie to SVCD, but to make it look as professional as possible by adding chapters etc. The following programs were using in this guide:
VirtualDub 1.4.9 VCDEasy 1.1.1 Cinema Craft Encoder SP 2.5 * Photo/Paint Program (ie. Photoshop, Photopaint, etc) * Other versions of Cinema Craft Encoder or TMPGEnc may be used but the encoder settings will not be explained in this guide... not yet anyways. 1) Preparing the AVI files One often overlooked process when making a SVCD from a DiVX source is to make sure the DiVX has no errors or sync problems; If you don't fix errors in the AVI file your encoded MPEG will most likely have sync problems or other errors in it. In this step we will also split the AVI into 2 parts (or 3 if the movie is long). a)"Open Video File" up your AVI movie in VirtualDub. If your movie came on more then 1 AVI file (like mine did) you want to load both parts into VirtualDub. Do this by going into "File -> Append AVI segment" and choose the second file of the movie. If you get message that says "VBR audio stream detected" don't worry it'll be fixed when we split the movie a bit later on. Note: You will not be able to join a AVI that uses VBR for audio directly. To get around this you have to resave the file with an uncompressed wav for the audio stream. Step d shows you how to set that up. b) Once the movie is loaded you want to get some information about the AVI file. To do this click on "File -> File Information"a window will pop up that looks like this: 
The important things we want to take note of are the "Frame size" and the "fps". You may want to write the frame size dimension down somewhere you'll be using it later on. Take a look at the "fps" if it's not a standard rate you may have problems later on. Standard rates would be 23.976, 25, and 29.97. A common problem is the frame rate might be close but not exactly the same as one of the standard rates. For example 23.973 fps, it may not seem like it'll matter but if you don't fix the problem the audio and video will slowly go out of sync when you encode. Why would an AVI file have a slightly off frame rate? That's a good question, the answer is usually because the person who encoded the AVI probably noticed the movie was out of sync. Instead of stretching the audio to match the video (the proper way to fix the problem) the person adjusted the framerate. This is not a problem when playing back on your computer because your computer handle pretty much any frame rate but DVD players rely on standards. There are guides on this site that will help you fix problems like this so I will not explain the steps here. This particular "Spider-man" AVI file has a standard frame rate so I am able to go to the next step. c) Now we want to make sure there's no bad frames in the video stream. Once again bad frames can cause sync issues and need to be fixed. There are guides around that explains how to fix these problems if your AVI does contain bad frames. To check for bad frames click on "Video -> Scan video stream for errors" This process will take several minutes. If there's bad frames fix them... if not move on. d) First make sure video is set for direct stream copy (we do not want to re encoded when we split). Do this by clicking "Video -> Direct stream copy". Next make sure audio is set for avi and full processing mode. Do this by clicking "Audio -> AVI audio", then "Audio -> Full processing mode". Next click on "Audio -> Conversion" a window that looks like this should appear: 
For "Sampling rate" choose 44100Hz or 48000Hz depending on which rate you will be encoding to later in DVD2SVCD. Also check "High quality" to get a better conversion. The next step is to click on "Audio -> Compression", we want an uncompress audio so we would choose "<No Compression> (PCM)". This will also get rid of the audio sync issue because of the VBR error from step (a) when we save the avi file later. e) We are ready to find where we want to split the movie. I know DVD2SVCD can automatically split the movie but it does it by file size so often times the movie will get split during an action scene etc. which I do not like so we are going to find a scene change near the middle of the movie and split it manually. Now we want to find a good spot to split the movie. Since my movie is about 121 minutes long and I want to put it on 2 CD's I'll want to split the movie at a scene change around 60 minutes. To do this drag the trackbar underneath the video window to a spot a few minutes before the 60 minute mark. Now use the "Next Key Frame" and "Previous Key Frame" button to find the exact location of a scene change. These buttons are Marked B, and A respectively in the pictures below. Note: If the AVI was encoded properly every scene change should start with a Key Frame, but remember NOT every Key Frame is a scene change. An easy way to check if the Key Frame occurs at a scene change is to goto the Key Frame then press the "left arrow key" on the keyboard to bring it back a frame and see if scene has changed. For example in my movie the scene changes from inside the office building to outside of a diner so that's would be a scene change. 
So now we have found a good place to split the movie. We want the first part of the movie to contain all the frames from 0 to our Scene Change Key Frame (less 1 frame). To do this we set the beginning and end of selection. Set the "selection start" to frame 0 by dragging the trackbar to the far left until the Frame says 0. Then click the "Set selection start" button (C in the picture). To set the "selection end" move the trackbar until we get the our Key Frame (-1). In my example that would be Frame 82220. Now click the "Set Selection end" button (D in the picture). The blue bar where the trackbar is shows you which part has been selected. Now we save the first part of the movie. Click on "File -> Save as AVI", and give it a name like "part1.avi" or in my case I used "spider1a.avi". It may take a few minutes to save the file. Once the first part is saved we want to save the last half of the movie. Do the same thing as before except your "Start of selection" point will be the Scene Change Key Frame and the "End of selection" point will be the last frame of the AVI. Just remember to use a different file name when you save... I called the second part "spider2a.avi". Now that we have the 2 AVI files split where we want we can finally move onto the next step of actually encoding the file :=) You may first want to play the AVI files with Media Player to make sure nothing has gone wrong and that each part ends at where you wanted it to. 2) DVD2SVCD.... more then just for DVD's I am going to use DVD2SVCD in AVI mode since it automates most of the dirty work. I'm going to assume you're familiar with this program and have it set up already. I'll also go through each of the important tabs and explain what most of the settings are for. The pictures will show the settings I used, but remember this may not necessarily be the best setting. a) Misc 
Make sure that "Input file type" is set to "AVI" or else you won't be able to load the AVI movie later on. "Output file type" is set to "MPEG-2" since I'm making a SVCD, if you're making a regular VCD choose "MPEG-1" instead. "DVD2SVCD level" set it to "Advanced" or else some of the options in the other tab won't show up. Check convert "divx3 to divx4" if your movie is in divx3 format and if you are using CCE to encode. b) Conversion 
"AVI file" load the first part of your movie here in my case it's "spider1a.avi" "Selected Audiotracks" there should only be on track and it should be checked automatically. Check "NTSC to PAL" if you want your MPEG to be in PAL (25 fps). Maybe useful for people in Europe but I think most PAL DVD players also play back NTSC so is there a point in checking this??? "Deinterlace": should be set to "No deinterlacing" unless your movie is interlace which it shouldn't be. "Aspect Ratio": There's 3 different settings the easy way to explain is with pictures and a table. My avi file has a resolution of 640x352 approximately 16:9 ratio. The table will show how it would look on a normal TV (4:3) and a widescreen (16:9) with each setting.
*Note: This is how it would look on a 16:9 TV in full screen mode. All 16:9 TV's have a zoom or theatre mode to crop out the black bars so if the TV was in this mode it wi'll look like the 4:3(No borders, encoded as 4:3) picture, not distorted.
Once we have the change disc picture created we can make our MPEG still using VCDEasy. Load up VCDEasy, click on the "Tools" then the "MPEG Stills" tab. Change your settings to look like this: 
Of course your "Input Image" would be whatever you saved your picture as in the previous step. All the other settings should be the same as how I have it except in the "MPEG Still Type" you should check "SVCD" if you're making a true SVCD. I used "VCD 2.0" because my player doesn't play back SVCD without the header trick. Once everything is set up hit "Generate" to make your MPEG Still. b) Adding chapters and making the image Now we're ready to add chapters. Click on "(S)VCD) on the left side, click the "Main" tab. 
Click "Add Files" and add the first part of the encoded movie and the change disc MPEG still you made from the previous step. "VideCD type": Choose "SVCD 1.0" if you're making a SVCD, choose "VCD 2.0" if you're making a VCD or if you had to use the header trick like I did. I don't think there's ever a reason to choose VCD 1.1, maybe for really old players ??? "CD Writer": I'll be using a different program to write the image so I choose "No CD Writer Selected" "Volume Label": Just put the name of the movie in here. "Bin Output File": The name of the CD Image that VCDEasy will create. Now we click the "Chapters" tab. We skipped the "Options" tab because there's really nothing that needs to be changed there so I won't bother. You will get a screen that looks like this: 
There's not many options here but it's an important part to make professional looking chapters. To add a chapter type the timecode into the "Create a Chapter at" field and then hit okay. You will have to do this for each chapter you want. How did I know what timecode to put in? Good question. This is the probably the slowest and most boring process. Remember in step "1e)" where we found a good scene change spot to split the movie using Virtual Dub? Well to find good spots to insert a chapter point in the movie we do the same thing but instead of splitting the movie we just write down the timecode where these scene changes happen. The time code is shown at the bottom right of the VirtualDub window. So load up the first part of the movie in VirtualDub. And go through the movie and write down 10-12 good places to insert a chapter... the best spots are scene changes like I have said. Note: when you put in the timecode in VCDEasy the actual chapter entry may not be exactly the same ie. you put in 0:03:30.292 and you get 0:03:30:293 don't worry about VCDEasy just finds the closes I frame it can put the entrypoint at. Once you have all the chapter points manually inputted. We're almost ready to make the image. You may first want to goto the "Interactivity" tab and make it so that the disc change image stays on the screen for more then 2 seconds (default). This is pretty easy to do, once, you're in the "Interactivity" tab change he "Play Item" so that "Segment - 0002" is selected. Now change the wait time to "Wait Infinite" that's it. Now that everything is set click "GO" and VCDEasy will make your image file now (in bin, cue format). Once it's done you can burn the image using CDR Win, Fireburner, Nero, etc. That's it! A DiVX movie converted so you can watch it on your DVD Player! Of course you'll still have to do the same thing fot the second part of the movie :-) | ||||||||||||||||||||
| LeeBear posted 2002 Sep 09 12:40 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Argh, the codes a bit messed up when I upload it. It will be fixed later when I have time.
-LeeBear | ||||||||||||||||||||
| adam posted 2002 Sep 09 17:57 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Great guide, I just have one minor correction to make. You got linear and non-linear mixed up. Its true that it will probably be difficult to see any difference between the two in your encodes but the fact is that non-linear is always better. Its just an update to linear quantization that was implemented in mpeg2. There is no reason to ever opt for linear quantization, its just required for mpeg1 encoding.
You should always leave this option unchecked. | ||||||||||||||||||||
| LeeBear posted 2002 Sep 09 20:53 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Thanks adam, I updated the guide with the correction to linear quantizer scale.
I also fixed the formatting of the guide although the tables are still a be messed up. Don't know how to fix that unfortunately :-) Maybe someone should write a guide on how to write a guide :-) -LeeBear | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Martyn1980 posted 2002 Sep 09 23:33 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Great guide Leebear, i wish someone had written something like this 4 months ago when i started doing this, maybe saved me a lot of hours, with CCE crashes, avi errors and the like, but i suppose its better to learn the hard way.
You are patient aren't you, must of took a while to do that, plus you do what i do with the chapter points, i do the same thing in DVD2AVI when the source is DVD. Good work, we need more people on here like you, willing to help others, you probably answered about 20 posts in that guide :lol: :wink: | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Baldrick posted 2002 Sep 10 05:40 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| I fixed the tables a bit, removed all linebreaks because if you have a linebreak within the table /table phpbb will add a br and thats why they were so far away from the text.
Very nice guide btw. | ||||||||||||||||||||
| offel posted 2002 Sep 10 14:07 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| how about adding subtitles???????
is there an easy way with your guide ????? | ||||||||||||||||||||
| pmcx9 posted 2002 Sep 10 16:20 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Lot of work gone into that. Great for the scene!
Props to you leebear! | ||||||||||||||||||||
| vadeluma posted 2002 Sep 10 19:40 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Check Edit as part of Video-encoding and use a script like this LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\MPEG2DEC.dll") LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Avisynth\textsub.vdf") AviSource("C:\My Downloads\YOUR FILE.avi") BicubicResize(480,254,0,0,6) AddBorders(0,113,0,113) TextSub("\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Avisynth\YOUR SUBFILE.srt") In this example your subs will be placed in the letterbox. If you put the syntax above AddBorders, they will be placed in the moviescreen. TextSub("\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Avisynth\YOUR SUBFILE.srt") AddBorders(0,113,0,113) Note this: Use size 18 for your subs if you place the subs in the moviescreen, for the letterbox use size 10. | ||||||||||||||||||||
| jklye posted 2002 Sep 10 22:07 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Ok I give up - where do i find info to correct out of sync audio due to the fact that a divx file is encoded at 20fps to create a vcd/svcd | ||||||||||||||||||||
| LeeBear posted 2002 Sep 11 00:47 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Thanks for the feedback guys. And thanks for fixing the tables Baldrick.
jklye: Your 20 fps AVI isn't one where the person who encoded it had a sync problem and changed the framerate. It sounds like the person choose to encoded at 20 fps to keep the file size down a common practice by novice DiVX encoders. You should be able to convert to SVCD without doing anything to the AVI and the audio should be in sync (if the audio in the AVI was in sync). The only thing is your encoding my/will look jerky because the only way the encoder can convert from 20 fps to 29.97 fps is to duplicate/repeat certain frames. It's probably not the solution you want to hear. -LeeBear | ||||||||||||||||||||
| offel posted 2002 Sep 11 14:25 | ||||||||||||||||||||
thanks i'll give it a try!!!!! :P | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Art posted 2002 Sep 11 15:43 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Hi LeeBear. I decided to make a VCD (because my DVD doesn't play SVCD Panasonic RV 31) My DivX was frame size 640X400 23,976 fps DivX MPEG 4 Low Motion, audio rate 44100 Hz. So everything went OK and script worked until CCI encoding for about 6 hours or so. than it stopped and that’s it When I tried to start encoding again it calculated about another 12 hours to encode part 1 ( about 1 hour) of the move. I checked the created files I found the sound file but no MPEG file. The second try crashed the CCI all together. I don'r understand what went wrong. Here is the log file
-------------------------------------------------------- - 9/10/2002 3:21:45 AM - AVI to SVCD Conversion - AVI2VCD ver. 1.0.9 build 3 -------------------------------------------------------- Initializing Initializing finished. -------------------------------------------------------- - 9/10/2002 3:21:50 AM - Free on drive D: 14592.23 mb - AUDIO Extraction -------------------------------------------------------- Audio extraction finished. -------------------------------------------------------- - 9/10/2002 3:23:52 AM - Free on drive D: 14025.97 mb - AUDIO conversion -------------------------------------------------------- Converting Audio to MP2. Filename: D:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.wav Executing BeSweet. Commandline: "D:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "D:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.wav" -output "D:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "D:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -ota( -g max ) -2lame( -e -b 224 -m s ) Audio conversion of D:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.wav finished. Audio conversion finished. -------------------------------------------------------- - 9/10/2002 3:35:00 AM - Free on drive D: 14502.31 mb - Video Encoding using Cinema Craft -------------------------------------------------------- - Editing AVS script file Executing Cinema Craft Encoder. StreamSectors: 834285788 AudioSectors: 95718588 VideoPAPO: 11440800 ScanOffsetBytes: 0 SeqAligningBytes: 0 DVDBytes: 0 VideoEndHeader: 4 SubtitleSectors: 0 EmptySectors: 238.00 PictureSectors: 0.00 PureMPEGStream: 727126396.00 Seconds: 3372.91 CalcMPEGStream: 727126396.00 Frames: 80701 CDSize: 800.00 Cut point 796.00 Variable Settings: Frames: 80701 Anti Noise Filter: Off Passes: 4 Image Quality: 5 VAF file creation: On Video Encoding Mode: Multipass VBR Min. bitrate: 300 Max. bitrate: 2530 Avg. Bitrate: 1724 Aspect Ratio: 16:9 (borders added, encoded as 4:3) ---AVS Begin--- LoadPlugin("D:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec.dll") AVISource("D:\SAVING~1\part1.avi") ConvertToYUY2() BicubicResize(480,360,0.33,0.33) AddBorders(0,60,0,60) ResampleAudio(44100) ----AVS End---- I don't understand what is AVS Any suggestions please. | ||||||||||||||||||||
| LeeBear posted 2002 Sep 11 23:46 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Art: There doesn't seem to be anything wrong with your logfile. The stopping and crashing of CCE could be caused by many things. CCE is very intensive on your CPU, mememory, etc. so an unstable computer can cause it to crash. If you haven't already read the CCE Q&A at Doom9 I suggest you do, there's some info there that may help you... most notably CRC patch (don't know if we can discuss that here).
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=c0da1942647c4a81d476d5473 ... adid=16976 Now your next question about what AVS is. AVS is AVIsynth, a scripting language and frame server. What it does is basically provides a processed AVI file for CCE or another encoder. When I say processed I mean resized, sharpen, or any other filters you set. of course all this is done on the fly (in real time) so it's actually called frameserving. Why would you want to do this why not just drag the AVI file and let CCE encode it? Well CCE doesn't resize so if you just used the AVI file your MPEG would be 640x400 (in your particular case). By using the AVS each frame of your AVI will be resize, filtered, even overlayed with sub title texts if you wanted, so what CCE see's and encodes will be a 480x480 AVI with text. Hope that helps explain what AVS is. -LeeBear | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Art posted 2002 Sep 12 02:10 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Thanks LeeBear for your quick response. Just one more question. How long does it take approximately to convert the 1 hour DivX to MPEG for VCD? My comp is Pentium 3 550 MHz ? Thank you again. | ||||||||||||||||||||
| LeeBear posted 2002 Sep 12 09:56 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Art: The time it takes to encode varies on the type of filters you use. On my computer a 90 minute movie takes about 6-7 hours to encode using 4 pass VBR SVCD. This is using a AMD XP1700+. I would guess on your system it'll take about 3 times as long, but since you're making a VCD instead of a SVCD it should be faster (MPEG1 is quicker to encode then MPEG2). If I had to guess I'd say it'll take about 5-7 hours on your computer. You can cut an hour off the time if you use a 3 pass instead of a 4 pass VBR. The extra bit of quality the 4th pass gives might not be worth the time on a slower system.
-LeeBear | ||||||||||||||||||||
| xzarkad posted 2002 Sep 13 19:31 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| I have been around quite some time........and this is the first time I feel the need to respond to a guide with just one word: "impressive" | ||||||||||||||||||||
| adam posted 2002 Sep 13 19:44 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| One more thing I noticed, not really a correction as much as a suggestion. In regards to your multipass setting of 4 passes. This actually means 5 pass vbr because the 1st pass is actually the creation of the .vaf file. Now whether or not you think this is too many passes is up to you but according to the CCE manual it is one too many as theoretical quality maxes out between 3 and 4 passes.
I think setting this to 3 passes (actually 4) will speed things up quite a bit without any noticable, or even unnoticable, quality degragation. | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Art posted 2002 Sep 16 12:51 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Thanks LeeBear for this guide. I have divided the move into three parts in order to put into 3 cd s The creation of first 2 VCD s were successful (although computer spend a lot of time on it about 12 hours for each cd) And imagine how disappointed I was when the last one gave a problem. The process goes as usual and here is the log file.
-------------------------------------------------------- - 9/15/2002 10:04:58 AM - AVI to SVCD Conversion - AVI2VCD ver. 1.0.9 build 3 -------------------------------------------------------- Initializing Initializing finished. -------------------------------------------------------- - 9/15/2002 10:05:02 AM - Free on drive D: 11220.06 mb - AUDIO Extraction -------------------------------------------------------- Audio extraction finished. -------------------------------------------------------- - 9/15/2002 10:06:42 AM - Free on drive D: 10769.57 mb - AUDIO conversion -------------------------------------------------------- Converting Audio to MP2. Filename: D:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.wav Executing BeSweet. Commandline: "D:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "D:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.wav" -output "D:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "D:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -ota( -g max ) -2lame( -e -b 224 -m s ) Audio conversion of D:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.wav finished. Audio conversion finished. -------------------------------------------------------- - 9/15/2002 10:15:20 AM - Free on drive D: 11220.05 mb - Video Encoding using Cinema Craft -------------------------------------------------------- - Editing AVS script file Executing Cinema Craft Encoder. StreamSectors: 834285788 AudioSectors: 76215580 VideoPAPO: 11742912 ScanOffsetBytes: 0 SeqAligningBytes: 0 DVDBytes: 0 VideoEndHeader: 4 SubtitleSectors: 0 EmptySectors: 238.00 PictureSectors: 0.00 PureMPEGStream: 746327292.00 Seconds: 2685.64 CalcMPEGStream: 746327292.00 Frames: 64223 CDSize: 800.00 Cut point 796.00 Variable Settings: Frames: 64223 Anti Noise Filter: Off Passes: 3 Image Quality: 5 VAF file creation: On Video Encoding Mode: Multipass VBR Min. bitrate: 300 Max. bitrate: 2530 Avg. Bitrate: 2223 Aspect Ratio: 16:9 (borders added, encoded as 4:3) ---AVS Begin--- LoadPlugin("D:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec.dll") AVISource("D:\SAVING~1\part3.avi") ConvertToYUY2() BicubicResize(480,412,0.33,0.33) AddBorders(0,34,0,34) ----AVS End---- Closing program CCE Max Speed: 0.740 Video Encoding finished. -------------------------------------------------------- - 9/15/2002 2:57:41 PM - Free on drive D: 11220.01 mb - Converting Pictures from ES to PS -------------------------------------------------------- Saving bbMPEG settings: D:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini -------------------------------------------------------- - 9/15/2002 2:57:46 PM - Free on drive D: 11220.01 mb - Converting Pictures from ES to PS -------------------------------------------------------- Saving bbMPEG settings: D:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini -------------------------------------------------------- - 9/15/2002 2:57:50 PM - Free on drive D: 11220.01 mb - Multiplexing and cutting -------------------------------------------------------- Saving bbMPEG settings: D:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini Offset in Seconds: 0 Executing bbMPEG. Variable Settings: Movie offset: 0 seconds Cut point: 796 mb Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline: "D:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "D:\VCD Test\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg" Multiplexing and cutting finished. CD-Image creation finished. -------------------------------------------------------- - 9/15/2002 2:59:53 PM - Free on drive D: 10775.44 mb - SVCD Creation finished! -------------------------------------------------------- But when I checked the file size it was about 455 MB instead of 800. Most of the move is simple black screen with audio, and while playing in win media player I get a message “ AVISource failed to decompress frame 16153 (error-100) “ message “ on that black screen. I double-checked the AVI file for bad frames with virtualdub, but it seems to be OK, no error messages at all. I tried another time, the same results. I can’t understand what’s the problem. Please any suggestions. Thank you in advance. | ||||||||||||||||||||
| hungp posted 2002 Sep 16 22:39 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Hi Lee Bear,
I followed your instruction to convert AVI to SVCD. For some reason on my DVD2SVCD, the convert Divx3 to Div4 check box on the Misc tab is grayed out and I cannot check it. I think this is causing CCE to fail during the video encoding process. Please advise what I should do. Thank you | ||||||||||||||||||||
| LeeBear posted 2002 Sep 17 14:00 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Art: Are you sure you don't have a bad frame? Error -100 usually means a bad frame. When you scanned the video stream for errors in VirtualDub if an error is found you won't get a pop up or anything telling you, it'll just be display in the status bar at the bottom of the window after the scan is complete.
hungp: if the DiVX3 to DiVX4 is grayed out then it's most likely you don't have the DiVX4 codec install. Download the Nimo Codec pack in the Tools section of the website that should solve your problem. -LeeBear | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Art posted 2002 Sep 17 15:26 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Thank you LeeBear for response. So How to fix the bad frames. Is there any link to explain how to do that . | ||||||||||||||||||||
| COMPUTER64FRE76 posted 2002 Sep 17 16:23 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| ALLRIGHT I RIP MY FIRST MOVIE WITH DVDSVCD EVERYTHING IS GREAT EXCEPT FOR ONE THING WHEN I PLAY MY VIDEO FILES I'VE GOT AT THE BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER THE LOGO OF CINEMA CRAFT ENCODER CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT TO DO TO GET THAT LOGO UT OF THERE. :-? | ||||||||||||||||||||
| xzarkad posted 2002 Sep 18 05:04 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| You have the trial version of CCE. To get the full version (without the logo) you will need to buy the software. | ||||||||||||||||||||
| COMPUTER64FRE76 posted 2002 Sep 18 15:17 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| TEST i think you do not know how to read because if you read the top of the conversion guide it say avi (divx) so may be you should by some readind glasses.
XZARKAD i would like to thank you for the information and i will get the full version of cce. thank you for your help. :D | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Art posted 2002 Sep 18 15:41 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| After trying to fix my DivX file with DivFix I still don't have good results. In VirtualDub status panel I am getting message " 7 frames bad, 353 frames!! good but undecodable" Please help. What can be done in such cases? Is there any solution? | ||||||||||||||||||||
| LeeBear posted 2002 Sep 20 00:44 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Art: Bad frames are probably the most difficult thing to deal with. There really isn't any elegant way to fix it short of cutting out the bad frames. For most DiVX movies the source of the bad frames is usually a transmission error while downloading the file (one bad bit can cause this). There's an article on DiVX Digest that may give you some help with the bad frames.
http://www.divx-digest.com/articles/index.html#edit That's about the best soltuion I can think of. -LeeBear | ||||||||||||||||||||
| x22 posted 2002 Sep 21 12:54 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Everything worked great for me except when I played the SVCD on my standalone I was not able to skip to the different chapters except the 1st one which starts the movie. I am pretty sure I added them all correctly in Vcdeasy. | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Draven posted 2002 Sep 25 05:54 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| A very impressive guide LeeBear.
But i have problems... I know maybe u can't help me because i use TMPGEnc and Nero (newest versions).I followed your guide in detail as long as it comes to cinemacraft parameters.. But my problem is that audio is out of sync 1-2 seconds when i play it on my standalone dvd player.(i have tested a svcd sample and it works fine) but in the computer the sync is perfect. When i scan for frame errors in the whole movie, virtual dub finds some, but i got cd1 in perfect audio sync, it's only cd2 that goes out of sync.Must i cut out the bad parts to get it right(its difficult to do isn't it ? Or is something else ?? Have no errors in the log file so i cant give you more info there. :cry: | ||||||||||||||||||||
| offline posted 2002 Sep 25 06:15 | ||||||||||||||||||||
This flags the mpeg as 16:9 but records it as 4.3 and is known to cause problems on a few DVD players. The SVCD standard does not support native widescreen / letterbox switching unlike DVD. It is likely that future SVCD compatable DVD players will also have problems (maybe even more so) with this - especially those brand names that require strict adhesion to the SVCD standards. 16:9 encodes for a widescreen should be encoded as 4.3 Other widescreen ratios should also be encoded as 4.3 for widescreen use. Ps: Nice guide btw.. loved the 4.3 v's widescreen graphic - made what can be difficult to explain, nice and simple. | ||||||||||||||||||||
| bruzer posted 2002 Sep 25 06:27 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| I am a newbie, and I am having problems with your guide. I have tried step by step to follow this guide to the letter. when I get to the dvd2svcd portion, I go to avi2svcd conversion tab, load my file , and then get the java script error "The cinema craft encoder file does not exist!". I know this must sound like a completely stupid question, but I am going to ask it anyhow, what am I doing wrong? :( | ||||||||||||||||||||
| LeeBear posted 2002 Sep 25 15:02 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Draven: If you have bad frames there's not alot you can do about it. You can try to cut them out but remember you must also cut out the audio or else you'll lose sync cause the video and audio length becomes different. For your sync problems on your DVD player have you tried changing the "Movie offset seconds" to "2" in the "bbMPEG" tab? Some players can't handle a value of 0 like I used in my guide.
offline: I think you have it wrong. the 16:9 (borders add it, encode as 4:3) doesn't set the DAR flag to 16:9. It sets it to 4:3, the black bars are physically encoded into the mpeg stream. The "anamoprhic(no borders, encode as 16:9)" sets the DAR to 16:9 and relies on your DVD player to add the black bars. I've checked with bitrate viewer and the flags are correct. I think the confusion comes because the older versions of DVD2SVCD only had 2 settings that wasn't so clear. bruzer: Your problem is probably because you don't have cinema craft encoder.. it's a seperate program you have to have installed on your computer (costs about $2000 :-) -LeeBear | ||||||||||||||||||||
| bruzer posted 2002 Sep 25 15:15 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| LEEBEAR,
I thought I downloaded cinema craft 2.5 sp and installed it yesterday. Do I not have the complete package? | ||||||||||||||||||||
| LeeBear posted 2002 Sep 26 03:49 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| bruzer: If you installed CCE after you installed DVD2SVCD I think you have to manually set the path for CCE. That's probably your problem. In the "Encoder" tab where it says "Cinema Craft Encoder 2.5" make sure it's not blank and that it's pointing to the right place. Example would be "C:\PROGRA~1\CINEMA~1\cctsp.exe", NOTE: You can't just point to the directory, it has to point to the executable file.
-LeeBear | ||||||||||||||||||||
| TheSmokey posted 2002 Sep 26 09:17 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Heyas
Awesome guide. One question: Does this guide work even if the audio is done in AC3? More and more DivX avi's that I've been getting have been done with AC3, making it a pain. Is there any special procedure that would have to be done or will DVD2SVCD handle AC3? Thanks TheSmokey | ||||||||||||||||||||
| no_good posted 2002 Sep 26 09:53 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Greetings. I'm a newbie at this and seek your experienced and great wisdom. By the way, great guide. However, I have a few questions.
1. Upon completion of DVD2VCD program, it saved the files as Encoded_Video_CCE_NTSC.mpv . Is the file extension suppose to be .mpv ? 2. What is this file bbmpeg_muxed_file00.mpg (its the only file that had the .mpg extension.) 3. Do I name the file within the program or after it's finished encoding? (i.e. Spiderman.mpg) Thanks, in advance, for the assistance. No_Good | ||||||||||||||||||||
| bruzer posted 2002 Sep 26 19:39 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| LeeBear,
I tried what you said and got my CCE running correctly, but I am having the same problem Art was having with the convert divx3 to div4 box being grayed out. I tried your solution by installing Nimo codec pack and still have grayed out boxes. Any other sugestions to remedy this problem? I am also having a problem with the add resample audio box being grayed out since I have an AMD Athlon 1700 plus processor this is a problem, correct? TIA bruzer | ||||||||||||||||||||
| LeeBear posted 2002 Sep 27 01:43 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| The Smokey: This guide wasn't designed to handle AC3 audio. It may be updated later for that but not now. There are guides on this site that will tell you how to convert the AC3 audio using VirutalDUb. After you do that you should be able to follow the rest of the guide.
bruzer: I think I figured out your problem with the greyed out "convert DivX3 do DivX4". Do you have DivX5 installed on your computer? If so it takes over DivX3 and 4 playback that's why the option is greyed out. If you install the Nimo Codec pack you have to do a custom installation and make sure you have DivX3 and DivX4 choosen to be installed. I don't think it's installed by default. Your other problem with the "add resample audio" being greyed out. I honestly cannot tell you why it's greyed out, but you can get around it kinda. In the "frameserver" tab, in the "Edit the AVISynth Script File" check "Edit as part of Video Encoding". Now let DVD2SVCD do it's job. Right before it encodes the movie, a window will pop up that will allow you to edit the AVS script. Just add the line "ResampleAudio(44100)" at the end of it after the resizing, etc. No quotes of course. That's a temporary solution but at least it'll get you on your way. I'll see if I can find out the actual cause of the greyed out box later. -LeeBear | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Draven posted 2002 Sep 28 12:09 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| [quote="LeeBear"]Draven: If you have bad frames there's not alot you can do about it. You can try to cut them out but remember you must also cut out the audio or else you'll lose sync cause the video and audio length becomes different. For your sync problems on your DVD player have you tried changing the "Movie offset seconds" to "2" in the "bbMPEG" tab? Some players can't handle a value of 0 like I used in my guide.
LeeBear ..To hell with nero 5.5 , when i used VcdEasy there really wasn't a sync problem... But how about subtitles ? With virtualdub and TMPGEnc u just have to framerate and..Voila you also got subtitles. And in Audio you can add a 5.1 Encoder..yes ? Is there really a way to get DTS audio in my SVCD ? Appreciate if you got some answeres /Draven. | ||||||||||||||||||||
| stewaer posted 2002 Sep 30 13:35 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Great guide LeeBear!!! thanks!!
Unfortunately I encountereda problem :cry: I left my computer encoding overnight because I have quite a slow processor. When I looked at the computer in the morning I found that it had got stuck. It said not enough memory to open CCE 2.5, try closing some applications. well I had every other app closed so basically I had ran out of memory. What I want to know is, is there a way to pick up the guide from the part where I had got to before the computer gave up. The audio was extracted and encoded fine. Is the away from picking up from where I had got to or do I have to do the whole process all over again?? thanks | ||||||||||||||||||||
| atreyue posted 2002 Sep 30 13:40 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| This guide has been great, but I've got a problem. When I try to convert in DVD2SVCD, CCE(I'm using v2.64) gives me an invalid floating point error. I've checked around and that seems to be an unfixable bug in my version. I know that your guide is v2.50 specific, but I'm having trouble finding it. Do you know of a place where I can download it? TIA | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Buggerlugs posted 2002 Sep 30 16:25 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Strangly my first attempt was doing really well. I was even getting a speed of 2.16 on my xp1800+ which is unheard of.
After 30min of cce doing its thing, it came up with a CRC error and couldn`t continue on to do its 4 passes. Any idea why this is? | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Buggerlugs posted 2002 Oct 01 05:51 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Applied the crc patch to cce and it still don`t work for me.
Someone help me out here. If I take a 107min divx, I need to use virutal dub to convert the mp3 audio to wav, and simply resave it as a divx video with PCM audio. Then I go into avi-2-svcd and basically let it do its thing? Unfortunatly i`m left with a 250mb mpeg file which plays the sound fine in powerdvd-xp4 but displays a green picture. Any idea where its gone wrong? surely it should be bigger than that? Weirdly CCE encoded at a speed of 3.2, and apparently was working to 0.5 mb per second, which has to be wrong. Idea`s people? | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Buggerlugs posted 2002 Oct 01 10:32 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| I think i may have discovered an easier way. Think this might work?
Rip the audio from the divx in wav format with virtualdub. Then re-encode it to mp2. (bbmpeg?) Play the divx on pc 1 using the geforce2`s tv-out to link it to my 2nd pc`s tv card via a svideo lead. I capture the video directly in mpeg2 svideo format at the correct bitrate and resolution using powervcr2. Then I integrate the mp2 audio stream back into the new recorded mpeg2 video. (dunno how exactly) Think this`ll work? | ||||||||||||||||||||
| offel posted 2002 Oct 01 17:22 | ||||||||||||||||||||
i don't get it??? encoding is done in 30 seconds. i only have a mpeg of 2mb and it shows:script error:there is no function named textsub !!!! help!!!!! | ||||||||||||||||||||
| LeeBear posted 2002 Oct 01 18:14 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Draven: You can use a 5.1 encoder with DVD2SVCD, whether the DVD player will play it back with 5.1 is another question thought. Most will ignore the extra channel and play it back as a regular stereo signal. Regarding DTS, I don't think you'll get DTS support, it's not in the SVCD specs and because of technical issues I don't think you'll be ever be able to put DTS audio into a SVCD.
stewaer: My guide wasn't really for problems with DVD2SVCD, you should goto www.doom9.org they have a good Q&A and a very good forum that you should be able to find a possible solution to your problem. atreyue: I suggest you tried looking on Kazaa for an older (2.50) version of CCE. The official sites will not have it. Buggerlugs: CCE shouldn't be encoding that fast :-) and the file size suggests that you may not have the bitrate set right in DVD2SVCD. Double check that. Your other method of of capturing with PowerVCR will work but you'll lose quality because of all the analog conversions and added interference/noise. The entire purpose of keeping everything digital is to maintain as much quality as possible. -LeeBear | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Diver posted 2002 Oct 02 05:34 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Hey Buggerlugs How did you manage it to get 2.16 frames??? I also have a reached 1.30 with my 1800+ with Win2k on it. Diver | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Buggerlugs posted 2002 Oct 02 13:41 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| I don`t think i actually did. For some weird reason when my avi-2-svcd transcodes the divx it seems to recompress it, so I get a 500kps bitrate. This means it encodes at a speed of 3.
When I`m converting DVD`s to SVCD I usually get 1.5 speed which equates to around 5hr 20mins to encode and build 2 iso`s. | ||||||||||||||||||||
| cup-o-joe posted 2002 Oct 02 13:44 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Excellent guide. It worked great for me.... with only a few hangups along the way. Besides downloading the programs mentioned at the top....
Had to load the Nimo Codec Pack. Had to find a full version of CCE. (Kazaa) Had to put on smartdeinterlace... my original was interlaced. You get blue bars going across your output mpg if you have it set wrong. You could update that part a bit. I created it with 2.5full CCE and tmpgenc.... I liked the tmpgenc output quality version better. Not sure if that makes sense. Other than that... Thank you for a great walkthrough on divx to svcd and on vcdeasy chaptering. Excellent. | ||||||||||||||||||||
| offel posted 2002 Oct 02 16:15 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| need help with adding subtitles!! please!!! | ||||||||||||||||||||
| zachattach posted 2002 Oct 02 20:12 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Hi LeeBear!
Thanks for the really great guide. But i still managed to have a problem with converting a divx-movie (ali g) with vbr audio track to SVCD. When i tried splitting the file with VirtualDub, the first half was perfectly in synch, and the second half was badly asynch (2 or more seconds, not getting worse). I read lots of guides (here & doom9) and then i tried using Nandub to split the files. When i used the same settings as in your guides, i had no audio except a crackle at the beginning. Then i set both audio and video to direct stream copy and it worked. DVD2SVCD converted the audio to wav then to mp2 and then CCE started. After the vaf file was created it always crashed. I have the crc patch installed and it never crashed before. i use a athlon xp1800+ with 512 mb ram and win xp. i really don't know what went wrong? how should i deal with avis with vbr audio? isn't there a reliable way to split them without them going out of synch? (sorr for the long post and all the questions, TIA!) | ||||||||||||||||||||
| LeeBear posted 2002 Oct 03 02:48 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| cup-o-joe: Thanks for the input. I considered (and still may) adding the Nimo Codec Pack as a program requirement but it's not really required since most people have the codecs installed to play DiVX files already. For having to download CCE, well the guide says it's a requirement so the method you use to get it is none of my business :-) Onto your interlacing problem. Most AVI's are not interlaced and even if they were you would just encode your SVCD to match the source in that case interlace. If you used a deinterlacing filter on the source you're basically blending the fields together and blurring the picture. The only time you'd want to do that is if you were making and MPEG1 which doesn't support interlace so you had no choice.
offel: Sorry my guide doesn't cover subtitles. And DiVX(AVI) doesn't support subtitling anyways. You'd have to find the subtitled text files and add them in afterwards with another program like WinSubMux. If I ever run across a DiVX movie that has a subtitles I'll update my guide for that. Until then I can't tell you how to do something I haven't done yet. zachattach: If the audio is out of sync after you split with VirtualDub and it's a fixed amount then you can easily fixed that. In VirtualDub in the "Audio -> Interleaving" change the "Audio Skew Correction" that should fix the problem. You may have to experiment with the numbers till you get it right but it shouldn't be to hard. -LeeBear | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Draven posted 2002 Oct 03 05:46 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| zachattach: If the audio is out of sync after you split with VirtualDub and it's a fixed amount then you can easily fixed that. In VirtualDub in the "Audio -> Interleaving" change the "Audio Skew Correction" that should fix the problem. You may have to experiment with the numbers till you get it right but it shouldn't be to hard.
-LeeBear[/quote] But still.. why is it that the first part (CD1)is ok and the second (CD2) is out of sync ?? | ||||||||||||||||||||
| zachattach posted 2002 Oct 03 08:58 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Thanks LeeBear for your help!
I'll try that. I encountered another problem yesterday. Since things were not exactly working out, i tried using the "foolproof guide using cce" (i know it's not yours, but maybe you can still help out?) because it basically seemed similar to what DVD2SVCD does. well, everything worked fine except for when i tried opening the .vdr file in CCE, i got an error message saying "couldn't find msvcr70.dll" and then i get another ("unknown") error. I _do_ have that file on my harddisk in some ms office folder, so...??? i really don't get that. :-? thanks again for the replies! ZachAttach. | ||||||||||||||||||||
| zachattach posted 2002 Oct 03 09:24 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Hi!
I really read through many guides (using CCE and VDub) the last couple of days and i noticed that my main problem lies somewhere else. How can i split an avi file (as you do in your guide) with a vbr audio track, so that i can determine where the split should be? Either i'm being really stupid, or it's impossible. I tried so many different suggested methods. The best i got done so far was getting the first half perfectly in synch and then the second one is all out of synch. I appreciate your help with the audio skew correction feature (i tried it and it worked! thanks!), but there _has_ to be a way (/program) to split vbr audio avis, right? thanks again! :D | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Draven posted 2002 Oct 03 12:55 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Zachattach i agree.
Your problem is mine also . There should be a solution about vbr audio ? I have also read lot's of stuff , but and audio skew is my solution to... My audio got out of sync in a cbr movie to , but that was nero's fault when i used vcdeasy i got it right. Good luck in solving our problem.. keep me posted .. | ||||||||||||||||||||
| LeeBear posted 2002 Oct 03 14:55 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| zachattach and Draven: I think I know why only the second part of AVI is out of sync. In my guide when the movie was split we basically went from DiVX-Full Movie (VBR audio) to DiVX-Part1(PCM audo) + DiVX-Part2(PCM audio) instead of doing that try to save out the entire movie with the uncompressed audio. Then load up the new file and split it from that. So the steps would basically be the same except we're going from DiVX-Full Movie(VBR audio) to DiVX-Full Movie(PCM audio) to DiVX-Part1(PCM audio) + DiVX-Part2(PCM audio). If you can try that and it works I'll update my guide with the revised method.
zachattach: The problem with your missing DLL file, are you trying to frameserve with Virtual Dub 1.4.10? If you are that's your problem go download an older version of Virtual Dub 1.4.9 it should work. The newer version of Virtual Dub was compiled using the latest Microsoft C++ compiler and you will need to install the Microsoft .NET framework to get all the proper DLL's. Not worth it IMO, just use the older version of VirtualDub. -LeeBear | ||||||||||||||||||||
| FredThompson posted 2002 Oct 03 17:10 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| This has never worked for me.
I load the DVD2SVCD package, then AviSynth 2.06, and I have CCE 2.64x The audio portion seems to go just fine. When it comes to the VFAPI part, nothing. It's like the whole process stops. Apparently, DVD2SVCD is waiting for something to happen but it never does. If I abort the VFAPI window, bam, DVD2SVCD tries to run CCE but since the parts it needs arent' there, crash. Would somebody please tell me how to make this work properly? | ||||||||||||||||||||
| FredThompson posted 2002 Oct 03 19:05 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| OK, same problem even with CCE 2.5
The VFAPI reader part shows and there's w job window but it never gets past that. It looks like DVD2SVCD is entering a job in the list but never actually initializing the frame server. That's as far as it gets. I can't find an apprpriate button to get things going again. Anybody know how to get this to work? | ||||||||||||||||||||
| normano posted 2002 Oct 04 13:01 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| "VBR audio stream detected" ERROR
When I get this error my audio is out of sync and nothing I try works. Finally I did alittle research on this error and found out that I can use NanDub looks like VirtualDub but allows VBR audio and it works the same I have had no issue and the audio is alwas on sync. The funny thing is that the avis it creates are allot smalller. :) | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Bongo posted 2002 Oct 04 15:43 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| sorry - cant get this to work
As soon as I get to section 2, and open up the file under the MISC tab, I get a message saying "The TMPGEnc file does not exist". What gives? TMPGEnc was not mentioned at all. Help, Bongo | ||||||||||||||||||||
| LeeBear posted 2002 Oct 05 17:30 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Fred Thompson: This guide assumes you have gotten DVD2SVCD to work before, as it wasn't design as a techinal support for the program itself. I suggest you goto www.doom9.org they have an excellent Q&A for both CCE and DVD2SVCD. There forum is also a great source to find solutions to technical problems, do I search there and I'm sure something will turn up.
Bongo: I'm a bit confused when you say "open up the file under the MISC tab", what file are you trying to open up and why? The MISC tab is only used to change the mode of DVD2SVCD to AVI2SVCD, and to set the output file type you want, MPEG1 or MPEG2. -LeeBear | ||||||||||||||||||||
| offel posted 2002 Oct 07 04:35 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| mmmm, vfapi goes well,but then i get an error message saying:
video check-sum is different then from that of previous pass ????????????????????????????????????? anybody else got this problem????? | ||||||||||||||||||||
| mrj03 posted 2002 Oct 07 17:00 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| While trying to convert an AVI to SVCD using DVD2SVCD software and the
insttuctions on this webpage http://vcdhelp.com/forum/userguides/111846.php ) I got this error message: cce encoding failed: Error:Video check-sum is different from that of previous pass. Source video data or time code may be different. PLease check video tape or the information file. Please check video tape or the information file ---information--- Current: check sum = 009366e1 Previous: check sum = 009230b9 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Grumworth posted 2002 Oct 07 18:16 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Thanx LeeBear for that great article! Keep it updated! 8)
I just wanted to thank you, and get a little consult. :roll: I've created SVCD with parameters are: film lenght 72 mins in mpeg2 480x480/23.976 NTSC Max video bitrate 2408 kbps Min video bitrate 400 kbps Max video avg. bitrate 2230 kbps Audio sampling rate 48000 hz bitrate 192 kbps VBR 4-pass the other setting were the same as in your guide... playing the final SVCD on PC cause no problems at all :P , BUT while playing it in standalone DVD Samsung SV-DVD1E, i've noticed a video problems: :evil: image just stops for a 0.5 second while the audio keeps playing, But there are NO sync problems at all. It seems like there are skips in frames in video stream. What causes it, i can't imagine, maybe i need to set a lower max video bitrate or a higher Min video bitrate ???? :-? CD was overburned (file size was 805 mb while 80 min cd can handle "802 mb" - VCD Easy report) from VCD Easy on 1x speed. Maybe this cause the problem?? If someone knows the cure - please, reply! | ||||||||||||||||||||
| LeeBear posted 2002 Oct 08 03:58 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| offel and mrj03: when you do a multipass encode with CCE it creates a file with the extension .vaf that contain the information about bitrate allocation etc. from the previous pass and updates it on everypass you do to make it more effecient. It sounds like the checksum error might be because you forgot to erase the vaf file after encoding a different movie since DVD2SVCD uses the same file name for the vaf file, you'll get a checksum error cause the vaf won't be for the right movie. So before you encode with DVD2SVCD make sure any previous vaf file is deleted. If that's not the problem then it's probably the common CRC errors that CCE seems to generate once in awhile. You can find a Q&A and a solution to the problem at www.doom9.org in the CCE forum.
Grumworth: You say the video plays fine on a PC so at least we know where to start looking for the problem. First I doubt it'll be an overburning issue, since if that was a problem it'll only cause problems when you near the end of the disc not throughout the entire disc. There are a few things I would try though. First your audio is set to 48000 Hz, most players can handle it but it sometimes causes problems so you may want to try to use the SVCD standard of 44100 Hz. Secondly your min, max, bitrate settings look okay. I was looking at the DVD player compatibility and there seems to be conflicting reports on whether the player plays SVCD. This could be a stupid question but you have tried a different SVCD on your player before and it handles them right? If your player handles SVCD directly you don't have to use the header trick (like I did in my guide) so you would of set VCDEasy to make a SVCD instead of VCD. You did that I assume. Lastly is this video pausing that you are having consistent or random? That may help narrow the problem down. -LeeBear | ||||||||||||||||||||
| normano posted 2002 Oct 08 11:22 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| I have succesfully made SVCDs with your guide, Thanks.
Last night I ran into an issue with one that I was working with. Seems to have been in PAL format at 25 fps. Virtualdub did not give me any errors and everthing seems fine. I played it on my standalone DVD player that does play SVCDs and the video goes jittery every two seconds. The audio seems to stay in sync and the jittery issue is constant throughout the whole video and it appeared on both parts. Has anyone run into this same issue? Is it becouse it is PAL? Is it the 25 fps? | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Grumworth posted 2002 Oct 08 17:59 | ||||||||||||||||||||
I have the same problem... I've asked for a solve in a 2 posts back at this topic... But in my case, the jitter problem occures not periodically, it has spontaneous character. Video is in NTSC format with 23.967 fps. :evil: DAMN! I thought, it will solve the problem, if i run it in PAL 25 fps !!! :cry: | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Radikins posted 2002 Oct 08 22:37 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| LeeBear...I can't think you enough for taking the time to publish your guide...For a newbie such as myself..it was clear and pretty simple to understand.
I followed you all the way through Chapters & Change Disc CD in VCDEasy...it saved the image in bin, cue format as you said it would. I used Nero 5.5.8.0 so I did not download scandata.dat. I dragged the .mpg file according to the "How to make a SVCD with Nero 5+" guide. The cd plays fine in my RCA RC5240P, however, the chapters and change disc cd is not there. The fast forward does not work either, it actually rewinds through the key frames. Could that be because my player does not support or should next time i include the step transferring scandata.dat into the EXT folder. Is there something I missed...how do i get the bin, cue format image saved by VCDEasy into Nero Burning. I tried dragging it into the SEGMENT folder but the file is way too large for the cd. Any ideas? | ||||||||||||||||||||
| LeeBear posted 2002 Oct 09 04:09 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Radikins: Simple solution to your problem. The problem is you're not burning the SVCD properly. You basically created another SVCD without the chapter structures that you created with VCDEasy. This is the correct way to burn the VCDEasy image file with Nero:
- Load up Nero - When the wizard comes out, "cancel" it, "DON'T" choose "SVCD" or anything - Now goto the menu ontop and choose "File -> Burn Image" - A window will pop up asking you for the file you want to open, pick the ".cue" file that VCDEasy created NOT the ".bin". - Hit write and that's it! You may have to check "Finalize CD" before hitting write or DVD player may not read the disc Grumworth and normano: Sorry Grumworth I wasn't aware that you were dealing with PAL. Normano the jittery effect you describe is a common problem with 23.976 fps NTSC file to 25 fps PAL conversion or vice versa because the way the frameserver handles the 1 fps difference is to either repeat a certain frame (in the case of NTSC to PAL) or delete a frame every second. The result is that the movie has an unnatural look to it, like the jittering you describe. Fortunately there is a way to deal with this problem but it adds an extra inconvenient step. The proper way to do a PAL to NTSC transfer is this, I'll assume your AVI is 25 fps, but you live in an NTSC country so you need it to be 23.976 fps. What you want to do is change the framerate of the movie to 23.976 fps but do not remove any frames. Basically make the movie play slower (about 5%). Of course this will cause the audio to go out of sync so you will have to 'stretch' the audio so that it matches the new length of the video, you will have to use a sound editing program like Soundforge or Cool Edit for that. Once you have that done you can put them back together with VirutalDub. This is basically the way studios handle transferring there movies to PAL. -LeeBear | ||||||||||||||||||||
| normano posted 2002 Oct 09 13:48 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| LeeBear
Thanks for the reply, I was not trying to convert the movie to NTSC I have a projector and a DVD players that can play PAL. Are you saying that your process converts Divx Pal to NTSC? Another thing is that I then took those SVCDs that I created and played them on my PC with WinDVD and did not see the issue. | ||||||||||||||||||||
| wisegrape posted 2002 Oct 21 06:34 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| I have a divx file with a vbr audio. I have tried to save the avi before using virtualdub however the file is way too large to save. I stopped it. For only 5 min of video it was over 2 gig. How do I save the avi in virtualdub to fix the vbr audio?
I did try to just load the unaltered divx avi in dvd2svcd and make my svcd. All appeared to work fine until cce had checksum errors. Could this be because of the vbr avi file? I haven't had any issues with cce2.5 before when using it with DVDs. I have read the FAQ's at DVD2SVCD site and may try the patch or updated dll if I cannot get this avi to work but I still think the problem is with the vbr source file. I ended up saving the wav file using virtualdub and then encoded the mpeg2 in tmpgenc selecting the avi for video source and the wav for the audio source. I had to then split the 1.2gig file using bbmpeg and using vcdeasy to author. It turned out quite good but I have noticed some blockiness when played on my big screen tv. I tried to encode the unaltered divx again but I got the checksum error once again. Any help would be greatly appreciated. | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Draven posted 2002 Oct 23 02:24 | ||||||||||||||||||||
LeeBear . It worked out fine after your suggestions. Many thanks. One other thing ,do you know if you could notice any changes to a better audioperformance if you change from 224kbit/s to 384kbit/s when you make svcd's ? I'm really interested of getting out a mpeg2 5+1 extension of a svcd but don't have time to learn how it could be done. | ||||||||||||||||||||
| wisegrape posted 2002 Oct 23 08:09 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| "First make sure video is set for direct stream copy (we do not want to re encoded when we split). Do this by clicking "Video -> Direct stream copy". Next make sure audio is set for avi and full processing mode. Do this by clicking "Audio -> AVI audio", then "Audio -> Full processing mode". Next click on "Audio -> Conversion" ...The next step is to click on "Audio -> Compression", we want an uncompress audio so we would choose "<No Compression> (PCM)"...Click on "File -> Save as AVI"..."
It really helps when you follow the direction step by step. Some how I missed the video>direct stream copy setting when saving the .avi. :oops: Now with the audio vbr issue resolved the conversion from avi to svcd using DVD2SVCD went without a hitch. Thanks for the info. The SVCD looks great. :) | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Asi Malki posted 2002 Oct 27 22:03 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| No_Good once asked a question and I would like to post it again because there was no answer given and I preety stuck the my self (it's a newbie question):
1. Upon completion of DVD2VCD program, it saved the files as Encoded_Video_CCE_NTSC.mpv . Is the file extension suppose to be .mpv ? 2. What is this file bbmpeg_muxed_file00.mpg (its the only file that had the .mpg extension.) 3. Do I name the file within the program or after it's finished encoding? (i.e. Spiderman.mpg) In other words, where is the movie, I hope it's not bbmpeg_muxed_file00.mpg because this file shown on my WMP as a green and fliped movie and you can hardly see anything, but on the other hand, the subtitles worked... :lol: | ||||||||||||||||||||
| xxBladExx posted 2002 Oct 28 18:03 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| This one is a great guide LeeBear.
But I do have just one question, I hope you can help me (I'm new with DVD2SVCD). I'm trying to put subs to my movie but I can't succeed. Can you please make a guide for me, how to add subs to my movie? :wink: Thx | ||||||||||||||||||||
| xxBladExx posted 2002 Oct 28 18:15 | ||||||||||||||||||||
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| pvk posted 2002 Nov 03 04:55 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Hi LeeBear
Your Guide is very clear and easy to follow, which is better than most Guides and impressive for a first time guide writer :P . I have tried to follow the instructions and ran into problems. You wrote: Note: You will not be able to join a AVI that uses VBR for audio directly. To get around this you have to resave the file with an uncompressed wav for the audio stream. Step d shows you how to set that up. -- and in step d: The next step is to click on "Audio -> Compression", we want an uncompress audio so we would choose "<No Compression> (PCM)". This will also get rid of the audio sync issue because of the VBR error from step (a) when we save the avi file later. I have tried all this with "Collateral Damage", but when I test it as You suggest later: " You may first want to play the AVI files with Media Player to make sure nothing has gone wrong and that each part ends at where you wanted it to" there is still an audio sync issue :cry: Not as bad as the 20 seconds I got by direct conversion of the Avi-file with AVI2SVCD, but still some annoying seconds. I must emphazise that I have only tested with MediaPlayer and NOT converted With AVI2SVCD (DVD2SVCD 1.09 build 3), as I don't expect that convertion to remove the sync problem; but then, what to do?? :o Is it possible to get a precise sync? And could You tell how? | ||||||||||||||||||||
| LdSr posted 2002 Nov 07 00:38 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| First of all, exellent guide. All I want to know is that is there a way to batch encode with this guide?
1 hour of movie usually takes me 2 hours to encode. So, when I sleep, I want to do 3 or 4. (Don't really want to wake up every 2 hours to set dvd2svcd :D ) Thanks | ||||||||||||||||||||
| LeeBear posted 2002 Nov 09 13:55 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Asi Malki: if you just left DVD2SVCD to use default file names for the files then yes the final MPEG file will be called bbmpeg_muxed_file00.mpg. This file contains both the video and audio stream which is the final outcome. You can rename it to what you want (in my guide I named it spidey.mpg). The file Encoded_Video_CCE_NTSC.mpv is 'just' the video file created by Cinema Craft Encoder, it doesn't contain any audio, this is one of the two files DVD2SVCD uses to create the final MPEG file bbmpeg_muxed_file00.mpg. Now about your question regarding Windows Media player showing the file as green and flipped upside down, this is a CODEC problem and not the fault of the guide or DVD2SVCD. You can do a search on the forum and you'll be sure to find other people with the same problems and solutions for it.
pvk: Virtual Dub usually gets the audio right when you save it out as uncompress but sometimes it does mess up. If the audio is out of sync, you can try this, before you save it out goto "Audio->Interleaving" and adjust the "audio skew correction" then save it out. You may have to do this a few times trying different values until you get it in sync, it usually doesn't take more then 3 tries though. LdSr: If you have the hard drive space you can batch encode the same way you would normally batch encode with DVD2SVCD in DVD mode. The only difference since there's no ripping involve with AVI file's you would have to let DVD2SVCD encode the audio then pause the program after it's done. And do the same for the second part. Then edit the DVD2SVCD batch file to make it finish the rest of the job. Just remember to create seperate output paths for each of the parts you encode or else when the second part is encoded it'll overwrite the first part. -LeeBear | ||||||||||||||||||||
| hazuki posted 2002 Nov 10 06:19 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Hello Guys. First of all, Thanks Lee for this guide...i've followed it to the letter, apart from changing the odd thing, and i've got me movie, ALMOST! What my problem is...
When putting the disc into my DVD Player (Its a DVDRW Player, On My TV) it all works ok, all the chapters and everything. SO i thought Great, i skipped through a few chapters just to check, and i realised that all the sound is slightly distorted, now, i dont think its out of sync, its just all (especially voices) very deep. The woman at the start sounds completely like a man! Is this a common problem, will it be able to be fixed?! As for everything else, its all good... I would be so thankful if you could help me overcome this matter, if i can get past this, i can move on on my own after that with all my movies....Thanks in advance! -Rob | ||||||||||||||||||||
| hazuki posted 2002 Nov 10 07:30 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Ok...Right. I have just re-played it again on my DVD player through the TV downstairs again.... My dad watched it and he seemed to notice how even the actual movie seemed just a fraction too slow as the same with the audio.... I have only went through the whole AVI -> SVCD process with 1 part of them film so far, as i've split it into 3 parts as its quite long. Now is there an easy way to just spead everything up slightly by maybe a few mili-seconds or a second? What programs, if any, are good for doing this? Will i have to re-start completely, because i have done real well, everythings working and i want to just do something simple like say open the *.cue file in some program, and speed it up slightly? Thankyou guys, and thanks LeeBear not only for your great guide, but also for your attention to users questions, you seem to be a very helpful person and answer everyone! CHeers m8! (bah...sorry bout the long post :o ) | ||||||||||||||||||||
| hazuki posted 2002 Nov 11 15:35 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Please help...I haven't gone and posted in a dead forum have i? :( | ||||||||||||||||||||
| MadeInJapan posted 2002 Nov 13 09:37 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| HI, I'm pretty new here but have been using DVD2SVCD for awhile. I have, without issue (until now) been able to make AVI (DivX) to SVCD without any sync issue, so I read the guide here with great enthusiasm. I didn't have VirtualDub so found the version mentioned here and tried to use it. I should add also that I use Windows2000, Professional. Anyway, here is the issue. I followed the guide all the way up until I click on Audio and then Compression so that I can set compression to none but the audio never loads. An hour glass is present but continues indefinitely. I finally have to use Cont/Alt/Del to get VirtualDub to close. I have tried this on 4 different versions of VirtualDub (some even earlier versions, and all the way up to the most recent) with the same results. My question is, do I really have to go into compression to make sure the movie's audio won't be compressed? What are the default settings in that window? If it is not compressed to begin with, then I can avoid this step. However, I don't want to go all the way through the AVI2SVCD process, which takes a long time just to find that my movie is still out of sync. I should add that I am using CCE with DVD2SVCD with no issue for awhile. Also, just for some further info on the movie I'm trying to encode. It is a copy of DieHardIII that has permanent Japanese subtitles. It is encoded at 576x384 with 24.00fps and audio sampling is at 32000Hz. Hope someone can help me out here or offer another method. I had originally made an SVCD from this close to 700mb AVI file just to find that the movie became further and further out of sync as it progressed, to the point that at the end of the movie, video was behind the audio by about 4 seconds. | ||||||||||||||||||||
| MadeInJapan posted 2002 Nov 13 23:23 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| I went ahead with the re-encoding without being able to open up compression under the Audio tab (as described above) in Virtual-Dub but it didn't seem to matter. when I loaded the new AVI, and looked at its information, the audio was not compressed! So, I went ahead with DVD2SVCD (AVI2SVCD portion) and came across another problem. Bicubic resizing and adding boarders didn't work so I edited the avisynth script box back to its original state, after a recovery, hoping my SVCD will turn out okay. What happened after I hit the save button in that box with the modifications with bicubic and boarders in Avisynth was that CCE would initially load but then crash. With the original text it didn't crash so I went back to that. Unfortunately, the video will probably to be 4:3 aspect, so a bit stretched I'm afraid...sort of like PAL is on NTSC TV. We'll see. Any suggestions on this, or if someone else has had CCE crash like this, let me know. No window came up to shut it down or anything...it just went away...weird. | ||||||||||||||||||||
| jrv331 posted 2002 Nov 19 10:36 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| LeeBear,
I used your guided and the quality was exellent. I do have one question that either I missed or wasnt covered. How do I get dvd2svcd to encode both parts of my avi file( for example spidy1 and spidy2). Can it be set to run a batch job? Or do I have to do one then the other? Im using cce if that matters. Thanks for the guide John | ||||||||||||||||||||
| wholagan posted 2002 Nov 28 03:25 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| LeeBear,
This is a great guide. Very easy to read and follow! I've made many SVCDS already. :D Unfortunately I came across a problem right in the beginning. I've done the Check for bad frames which came up 0 and then split the movie into 2 parts. Here is where I've encountered this problem. When I save the first part as usual, a message pops up saying: Virtual Dub Error The requested audio compression is not compatible with the input format. Check that the sampling rate and channel count of the input match those of the requested format. What does that mean? I am still a newbie at this but made many successful SVCDs and this is the first time I've ever encountered this. Thanks for your help in advance! | ||||||||||||||||||||
| WarSong posted 2002 Dec 16 00:41 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| I'm a newbie at this but and I tried 2 other guides that failed. After trying this guide it helped me made my first successful divx 2 svcd conversion. I am also surprised how great the movie looks on my dvd player and tv screen.
Thanks a lot. | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Newbie_ posted 2002 Dec 24 21:00 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Hi! This really detailed guide! Thanks LeeBear.
you probably have missed the frame 82220 ? | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Mark6677 posted 2002 Dec 25 00:12 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Leebear,
I was lucky to actually have the exact spiderman movie that you demonstrated your conversion with, but now as it is time for me to convert other movies - I do not have the luxury of your step-by-step guide. I have converted about 3 movies (successfully) after the spiderman, and have had |
