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Copy/Play HDDVD's from your hard drive

joepic posted 2007 Jan 23 08:56

Copy HD DVD movies to your hard drive and play them back. Start your HD DVD movie collection. Play HD DVD movies without the need for HDCP compliant hardware. I am the messenger(please don't shoot me!) as I do not have an HD DVD player yet to try this procedure. Software required: BACKUPHDDVD 1.1 - Java version http://www.sendspace.com/file/t9gto9 BackupHDDVD (GUI Mod 0.1.0) - Java http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=187320 http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=942211 Get the latest VOLUME keys here: http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=933519&postcount=1 http://aacskeys.com/ TitleSorter 1.6 for VUK and backuphddvd http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=943657#post943657 control PIP(IME, U-Control) and subtitles http://www.sendspace.com/file/e9zg23 PowerDVD Ultra 7.2 or 6.5 HD NOTE: PowerDVD 6.5 won't play a movie from a network drive. So you must save your movie to a local hard drive. Procedure on installing PowerDVD Ultra 7.2 for HD DVD http://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=320134 To see if your current hardware supports Blu-ray or HD DVD - test your PC: CyberLink BD / HD Advisor http://www.cyberlink.com/multi/support/bdhd_support/diagnosis.jsp Here are the major doom9 forums on HD DVD development where I gathered this information from: Backup hddvd and IME http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=120842&page=2 BackupHDDVD, a tool to decrypt AACS protected movies http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=119871&page=1 BackupHDDVD (GUI Mod) - Java http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=942211 HD DVD Volume Unique Keys http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=120611 More useful information on authoring HD DVD's: The Official AVS Guide to HD DVD Authoring http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=705146&page=1&pp=30 The following procedure is a little messy! Today it's a manual process and tomorrow I am sure it will be completely automated. I have copied the procedure from the doom9 forum and presented it here. The procedure to play HD DVD's from you hard drive is changing daily. I recommend that you follow the forum listed below to get the latest information. There is a playback solution for HD-DVD movies with IME and U-Control from your hard drive. 1. Run the movie through BackupHDDVD to your hard drive as normal. 2. Once the movie is done decrypting, go to the folder where the .EVO files were decrypted. Create 2 new folders; ADV_OBJ and HVDVD_TS. 3. Copy the main movie, usually will have FEATURE or PEVOB in the name, into the HVDVD_TS folder. There may be more than one .EVO file to copy. 4. Once that is done, go back to the original disc and browse to the HVDVD_TS folder. Copy over the corresponding .MAP files; i.e. if the .EVO file is FEATURE.EVO, copy over FEATURE.MAP, to the HVDVD_TS folder on your hard drive. From the same directory, copy the .VTI file. It should look something like HVA00001.VTI. Place both MAP and .VTI files in the HVDVD_TS folder on your hard drive. 5. Now go back to the disc and browser to the ADV_OBJ folder. From that folder, copy the DISCID.DAT file and the VPLST000.XPL file to the ADJ_OBJ folder you just created on your hard drive. 6. Once that is done, open the VPLST000.XPL in either an XML editor or plain-text editor. At the top, there may be some AACS info and null characters. They can be erased. There may also be some at the end of the file. In that file, focus on the info between the opening and closing TitleSet tags. The following parts can be customized. 7. Since only the main movie was copied over to the HVDVD_TS folder, the rest of the information needs to be deleted. Start by deleting the FirstPlayTitle info. 8. Next, find the main movie. If there are any Titles before it, delete them also. If doing this, make sure to change the titleNumber attribute of the main movie to 1. 9. Now delete all titles after the main movie. There may be quite a few to delete. After all the titles, there is a section called PlaylistApplication. Delete that too. 10. There should now only be one title left, the main movie. Within that title, there may be references to ApplicationSegment and ScheduledConrtolList. Delete either or both if they exist. 11. What you are left with is the Playlist for the main movie. It contains the needed references to the main and sub video along with the main audio, sub audio, and subtitles. Since PowerDVD does not handle subtitles right, I choose to delete all references to them in the Playlist. To do so, remove references to them in the PrimaryAudioVideoClip and also in TrackNavigationList. 12. I also removed the references to SubVideo and SubAudio to insure smooth playback. This may not be necessary though. Once all that is done, from PowerDVD, point to the folder containing the ADV_OBJ and HVDVD_TS folders on your hard drive and hit play. If everything was done right, you should be watching the movie. So far I have gotten King Kong and Batman Begins to play using this method. -------------------------------- Incidentally it works fine if you leave all the rest of the HVDVD_TS and ADV_OBJ files in their directories on the harddrive, they just get ignored, but if you've copied the AACS directories over, it seems to break PowerDVD 7.2 - I've been unsuccessfully messing with the XML for several days now. In a broader sense having editable XML is a big step forward - for the format, as well as for playing IME/UControl. Once we understand the structure it should be possible to customize the discs in any way we want. It will be good to strip those pesky FBI warnings and enforced trailers while preserving the good bits. Some script wizards should be able to write automation for this, and it's easier to understand than some of the cryptic navigation stuff in conventional DVD. --------------------------------- it work's fine!!! now i can change the language in european HD-DVDs!! ------------------------------- I've figured out how to control PIP(IME, U-Control) and subtitles. The ZIP contains 4 files. They all get placed in the ADV_OBJ folder. The code was written with King King in mind. The PIP placement will work on other movies, but will look weird. The XPL file is specific to King Kong also. http://www.sendspace.com/file/e9zg23 Edit: I forget to add that the "A" turns PIP on and off and the "D" key turns the subtitles on and off.

Baldrick posted 2007 Jan 23 09:38

I think I will make the DVD to DVDr forum to the official hdvdvd/bluray backup forum for now. Maybe time for a new forum later. So moving this.

joepic posted 2007 Jan 23 10:26

Baldrick What can I say but WOW! Three stickys in 4 days plus a forum name change. Must set a new forum record! Thanks, glad to help.

swampybryson posted 2007 Jan 31 04:15

hi all newbie question is this method just for movie playback .Or can this play back ime content etc.got 3 rips so far stuning picture :)

trevlac posted 2007 Feb 25 19:40

Thought this was cool ... so I gave it a whirl ... Here are the challenges I had ... hopefully helps someone. ------------------------------ 1) Got the xbox drive $200; 2) Pulgs into XP SP2 and installs fine 3) Easy to find the toshiba drivers and you can list the structure / copy files from the dvd (they will still be encrypted) Ok started having problems .... 4) The free trial version of PowerDVD is 7.0 and does not support HDDVD. You need PowerDVD 6.5. ... I installed that and gave it a go .. 5) Unfortunatelly ... my video card was not up to par to play the main KingKong feature from the HD Drive. My machine is a dual 2.33 dell notebook. It has a "measly" nVidia Quatro. No PureVideo support here. 6)Version PDVD Ultra 7.2. I tried that and now it will not even let my try to play anything. It checks and knows I don't have PureVideo support .... so sorry. 7) So I used BackupHDDVD ... to move it all to the Harddrive. 30gig worth. The version I used seem to make all the dirs and copy all the files I needed. Unfortunately I could not get the main feature to play with PDVD 6.5 8) Then I tried EVO demux. Lovely little tool that lets you pull the DD+ vc1 subs etc streams out of the HD format. I could then play the vc1 using PDVD 6.5 play from file feature. I played it from a mapped network drive. 9) Finally I found joy .... If I used the EVO demux rebuild feature ... and remove the low rez movie (yeah the thing has both a hidef and std def muxed together) and all the other audio ... subs ... etc. 10) Rebuild made me a new EVO file which PowerDVD 6.5 played without a problem from a network drive. My non-PureVideo card + 2x 2.33Ghz at between 40 - 50 % Here is an image I took with Snagit ... it's intended to show the insane bitrate and my cpus ... the video quality on the screen is much much better. :)

InXess posted 2007 Mar 09 12:40

So has the revolution started... impressive.

MEL15 posted 2007 Jul 19 21:25

Can this be put on a regular dvd-r ?

golfnut posted 2007 Nov 22 19:11

Do you have to have an HD drive in your computer or will a normal DVD drive/writer work with the software you have mentioned? If an HD drive is needed could you recommend a brand and model? Thank you.

fatbloke88 posted 2007 Nov 22 20:55

Golfnut they are using the xbox360 HDdrive , you just plug it into a usb port and xp recognises it .

golfnut posted 2007 Nov 22 21:10

fatbloke88 thank you for that info. Do you happen to know what software may be required as well? Thanks again and have a happy holiday. Golffnutt

ethan_hines posted 2007 Dec 13 23:16

trevlac : Thought this was cool ... so I gave it a whirl ... 8) Then I tried EVO demux. Lovely little tool that lets you pull the DD+ vc1 subs etc streams out of the HD format. I could then play the vc1 using PDVD 6.5 play from file feature. I played it from a mapped network drive. Question: Once EVOdemux creates the DD+, vc1, and the subs out of the EVO, how do you re-mux the video (.mpv) and audio (.mpa)

TOPROLLER posted 2008 Jan 22 00:12

hi all i am new to this as well and i have read all the Forums to and there are to many docters out there. ok for one i have been trying to make a MKV FILE from my HDDVD MOVIES and all the software i have been trying to use either i don't know how to use it or i am losing my mind i have sent more time on this that i have ever wished too and i am so upset with the out come . I would like to get some help step by step help from using ANYHDDVD to HD DVD Demuxer 1.4 and the rest of them as well to get the job done i have seen several torrents up in the last little while so i would like to join them as well i spend $275.00 on a LG - BLU-RAY/HD DVD Drive so i can watch the moives on my pc and now that i have 7 hddvd movies i would like to share them so some help would be nice . thanks toproller . You are in breach of the forum rules and are being issued with a formal warning. You are only allowed to backup for you personal use. / Moderator Baldrick

donpato posted 2008 Apr 04 12:04

Hello everybody. I own a Toshiba HD DVD player and also a collection of HD DVDs. I wanto to backup those HD DVD disks to my hard drive before the player eventually dies. Is it possible to connect the Toshiba player to my PC to do that backup? If the answer is no, what piece of hardware would you recomend me to do this? Best Regards

rhegedus posted 2008 Apr 04 12:23

No. You need a HD-DVD ROM - You can pick them up quite cheap now. But you still won't be able to play them directly on TV. If you are that worried, you're better off buying another player.

donpato posted 2008 Apr 04 12:34

rhegedus : No. You need a HD-DVD ROM - You can pick them up quite cheap now. But you still won't be able to play them directly on TV. If you are that worried, you're better off buying another player. Thanks Rob, you are right about buying a spare HD DVD player and I might follow your advice. I am considering to buy one of those new TVIX with a Hard Drive to put my collection of HD DVDs, thatá the reason I want to backup my collection. Regards

sdavis posted 2008 Apr 17 20:14

I have a question i just got a blue ray burner yesterday is there a way you can shrink the movie like you you do with dvdshrink or a way you can just copy to the hard drive and burn it later ?

[_chef_] posted 2008 Apr 21 03:36

sdavis : I have a question i just got a blue ray burner yesterday is there a way you can shrink the movie like you you do with dvdshrink or a way you can just copy to the hard drive and burn it later ? NOPE and dont crosspost! :idea:

TIMELINE posted 2008 Aug 07 13:35

If not, what is the best software to re-render and can it do batch render?

jman98 posted 2008 Aug 07 13:47

Timeline - Welcome to the forums, but as a general rule we discourage people from posting to older threads. It's really best in almost all cases to just start a new thread rather than reply to one 4+ months (or even years) old. This is not the AVS Forums where those losers get pissed if you (gasp!) try to start a new thread rather than to reply to something that's already got 60+ pages worth of data in it. We can't really answer what's "best" as that's a judgment call, but I guess encoding to H.264 or X.264 offers the best quality at the smallest disk space. I don't do this kind of encoding, so I have no idea if batch encoding is even possible. Since you have a Mac, your options are limited. Perhaps Handbrake would be your best choice.

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